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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:19:07 AM EDT
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So I'm assuming OP is calling rare/medium rare steak "undercooked"?
Beef and chicken aren't the same thing, and acting like they are is ignorant. Rare/medium rare steak is delicious and safe to eat. You lose too much flavor, juice, and tenderness with steak when it's cooked too much (anywhere past medium). Chicken on the other hand does not benefit from being cooked the same way. Chicken which is not fully cooked (probably equivalent to medium well for beef) is gross (flavor and texture wise) and then there is the obvious issue with germs. FWIW, I sous vide my steak and finish sear it on the grill or in a skillet. That meat may be rare but it's cooked for hours and is just as safe as a gray shoe leather steak that's been overcooked. So to sum up, NO people (well there's always a few idiots) don't do that with chicken, but chicken and beef are apples and oranges. It's like OP asked "for those that do airsoft, do you shoot people with real guns too?". The answer is the same, NO, because airsoft and real guns they are not the same thing, just like beef and chicken are not the same thing. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:19:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread we will learn who understands about food safety and who does not.  I don't care! If I was forced to eat well done steaks I would just suck start my Glock... Life isn't worth living eating shoe leather!! |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:20:15 AM EDT
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I'll eat my chicken and turkey breast medium rare. Of course I also cook it in the sous vide @ 135* for 4 hours so I know it's safe. It's so damn good.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:20:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steak is done when the marbling melts, somewhere between medium rare and medium, about 130f. Chicken is done when it's cooked through, 145f is plenty on a slow cook. Pork really depends on what you're cooking and how. I just cook chops through, on a shoulder I'll smoke it overnight and it will get quite hot to render all the fat, won't dry out if it's wrapped when it stalls. And how exactly do you hold chicken at 145? Cook it at like 200 like pork? |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:20:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you like undercooked steak: https://myconsciouseating.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/undercooked-steak.jpg How about some undercooked chicken: https://cs-tf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/undercooked-chicken-683x1024.jpg No thanks to either.  I prefer meat cooked, not partially cooked. Chicken, not a fucking chance. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:21:11 AM EDT
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I just cut out the middleman and eat the briquettes.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:21:12 AM EDT
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I peel my oranges but eat apples skin and all.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:22:43 AM EDT
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Undercooked chicken is.... undercooked, unsafe.
Undercooked pork is... undercooked, unsafe. Undercooked pasta is.... undercooked, still Undercooked veggies are.... undercooked, still stiff, not very palatable. Rare to Medium Rare steak is.... cooked to a level of my choosing and perfectly safe to eat. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Most people overcook chicken. Chicken held at 145 for 10 minutes is just as safe to eat at 165 for 1 second. Pork is similar. Look up logarithmic cooking charts. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:24:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate overcooked, dry chicken You hate Chick Fil A? |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:24:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it’s not. Yes it is. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:27:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The main difference is that under-cooked pork & chicken can cause major sickness and even death. WHAT? this is page 1 you can't give the correct answer that pork and chicken are biologically different than beef until page 2 |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:27:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And how exactly do you hold chicken at 145? Cook it at like 200 like pork? Sure, or just cut off the air to the fire when it gets close, or sous vide, or pull and rest it. Of course you can get away with more heat if you're frying it, or making soup. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:28:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:29:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care! If I was forced to eat well done steaks I would just suck start my Glock... Life isn't worth living eating shoe leather!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread we will learn who understands about food safety and who does not. I don't care! If I was forced to eat well done steaks I would just suck start my Glock... Life isn't worth living eating shoe leather!! Well, beef can be eaten raw. And you are correct, shoe leather is terrible.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:29:39 AM EDT
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What kind of retarded shit is this? Beef doesn't even need to be cooked to be safe to eat. Not so with chicken and pork.
Rated: troll |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:30:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I worked in a high end restaurant in college we had to eat raw beef before we could work in the kitchen. Give me beef carpaccio all day long.  My chicken I want done. My pork I want red on the outside and fall off the bone done in the middle, with a smokey flavor. https://global.discourse-cdn.com/palmettostatearmory/original/2X/7/78003ecd7871b907c9503ae877a14f50e089e57c.jpeg https://global.discourse-cdn.com/palmettostatearmory/original/2X/9/9d7ec418a0a600e999ef36c42d7f8a3fa1a668df.jpeg If smoked meat is "falling off of the bone", it's overdone. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:31:25 AM EDT
[#18]
You have not had Chicken till you have had Chicken cooked to perfection. Juicy and Tender and 100% safe.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:33:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of retarded shit is this? Beef doesn't even need to be cooked to be safe to eat. Not so with chicken and pork. Rated: troll This is what communism brings. People that enjoy eating shoe leather will be happy with bugs when they ban steaks. I mean bugs might not be as bad as well done steak |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:35:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a odd thing but I have noticed this in my lifetime Those who will refuse a rare to medium rare steak are not trust worthy |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, for one thing, it’s completely differently. And two, steak cooked past med rare is just ruined at that point. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:39:48 AM EDT
[#22]
OP makes his dog sad.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:40:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:41:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rated as TROLL End quote Repeat the line |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:43:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of retarded shit is this? Beef doesn't even need to be cooked to be safe to eat. Not so with chicken and pork. Rated: troll Let’s hope it’s a troll, if not OP is drinking early. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only guy I know that loves rare meat got salmonella from chicken. He was famous for having a piece or two on the grill and that spot not being as hot as the rest of the grill. He would laugh and eat it anyway. He said salmonella is bad very bad. I'm a food poisoning frequent flier.  I don't eat rare meats anymore. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:44:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you like undercooked steak: https://myconsciouseating.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/undercooked-steak.jpg How about some undercooked chicken: https://cs-tf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/undercooked-chicken-683x1024.jpg No thanks to either. I prefer meat cooked, not partially cooked.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:49:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:50:05 AM EDT
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Thorazine thread
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:50:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you like undercooked steak: https://myconsciouseating.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/undercooked-steak.jpg How about some undercooked chicken: https://cs-tf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/undercooked-chicken-683x1024.jpg No thanks to either. I prefer meat cooked, not partially cooked. This is a fail tread. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:56:06 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote History |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:56:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Good article on the subject: https://thetakeout.com/why-do-we-eat-raw-fish-and-beef-but-not-raw-chicken-1827518047
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Posted: 7/27/2022 10:58:04 AM EDT
[#33]
Really comes down more to processing standards for the food safety aspect of it. I have had medium chicken and don't prefer the taste as much as well. Chicken also doesn't toughen up like a steak will when well done especially the dark meat.
Now wild duck i like rare. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:00:18 AM EDT
[#34]
Ever notice grocery stores put different types of meats in separate bags.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:01:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Hard pass on pink chicken. Medium rare or less on steak.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:01:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The main difference is that under-cooked pork & chicken can cause major sickness and even death. Commercial pork in the us is actually about as safe as beef at any doneness. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:01:51 AM EDT
[#37]
Growing up on the rare occasion we did have steak, hated it.
My dad grew up in the era of basically burn everything on the grill (so you don't get food poisoning) so I thought that's how steak was supposed to be. Med rare for any good cut of steak with a nice sear for me. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:03:26 AM EDT
[#38]
Steak at medium rare to rare is cooked perfect. Chicken not so much.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:05:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, that pic of steak is almost overcooked. I prefer mine raw, ground and mixed with seasoning, like this. https://i0.wp.com/www.showmoonmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Steak-Tartar-el-legado-foodie-de-Genghis-Khan-Cover.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1 That looks amazing. I love tartar and Carpaccio. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:06:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the "Would you look at that" guy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the "Would you look at that" guy?  Edbassmaster best Psh moments |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:07:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's A5 waygu steak tartare stopped with Ossetra caviar and an egg yolk.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:07:21 AM EDT
[#42]
Who let Thorazine sneak back in?
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:10:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread we will learn who understands about food safety and who does not. And we also find out who can put a grammatically correct sentence together. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:11:22 AM EDT
[#44]
 Raw Chicken Sashimi - Food in Japan |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And we also find out who can put a grammatically correct sentence together. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread we will learn who understands about food safety and who does not. And we also find out who can put a grammatically correct sentence together. Dropped out of college. My bad.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:14:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHA! Thanks! I remember him years ago buying a car. I will watch the vid.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:14:22 AM EDT
[#47]
The Dutch eat a delicacy...raw pork chopped into a spread...that comes from very carefully raised and processed pigs. I've had it, tough to get down for an American, but very good.
From what I was told, they've never had a case of trichinosis. Yard bird comes off the grill at 160, it continues to cook at rest and remains moist. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:25:31 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:And how exactly do you hold chicken at 145? Cook it at like 200 like pork? If you set your cooker to 145, how's the chicken supposed to get hotter? |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:27:23 AM EDT
[#49]
I cook chicken till its done.
Most people over cook chicken. |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:30:34 AM EDT
[#50]
The fact that you’re able to survive this long in the world not learning how completely different the two things you’re trying to compare are is a testament to how gentle modern society has made the world.
It’s amazing and a little sad at the same time. |
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