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Posted: 1/14/2020 12:39:10 PM EDT

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But the AR is very effective against people who drive tanks or fly aircraft. In fact, the AR might be quite effective on unmanned drone aircraft. Someone in CO might like to test that theory.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:40:06 PM EDT

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That's 1940's technology bro!..

You can read up on what was available in 1989 when the Deutsche Bank president was assassinated:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Herrhausen

A copper plate traveling at 2 kilometers per second comes out to 6,561 feet per second.

Or almost Mach 3

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:43:15 PM EDT

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We kicked Englands' ass and they had better equipment, to my knowledge anyhow.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:44:43 PM EDT

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Yeah it used to be "Your AR-15 can't do anything against a tank", now the progressive soy-infused urbanite dreams of drone striking his political opposition.

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Then you hug your opponent. Go to the cities. Obama killed tons of women and children with drone strikes. Nobody cared.

Do that in Cedar Rapids or Winston-Salem.

We know where the drone operators work. Many old ANG facilities gave up their F-16’s and now run intel for the trigger men at Creech or wherever.

How many AR’s do we have? How many Hellfires do we have? Where are Hellfires built and by whom?

A few kids get droned and a lot of fence-sitters are going to be asking where they can buy an AK...

Just thinking out loud while jerking off.

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Posted: 1/14/2020 12:45:58 PM EDT

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I like to tell them I'm not fighting tanks and aircraft, I'm fighting them. Where will they be? They are the support for the socialists.

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Heh, those folks are relying on the .mil and LEO to be on their side I suppose.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:48:12 PM EDT

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If someone kills the tank driver and their family with an AR15 in the middle of the night....don't really have to worry about tanks very much do ya?

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Now I have a ~~machine gun~~ tank. Ho ho ho.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:50:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/14/2020 12:51:12 PM EDT

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Make no mistake, a bunch of armed citizens with neutered ARs are gonna loose vs the might of the US military... but the destruction caused would be enough that there'd be no country left to rule, not to mention the military is made up of citizens itself who (hopefully) wouldn't exactly be willing to destroy their own homes/people.

It's MAD... Mutually Assured Destruction. As long as the civilians are armed, it will never happen.

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The US military is overwhelming peopled with from the mid-west, the south and rural areas of the country. What makes them think it will be us against them? Worst case it looks like the civil war, with wholesale defections to state militias and levies.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:52:33 PM EDT

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They assume that all LE and MIL will be on “their” side and expect to authorize them to fight US citizens more brutally than they allowed them to fight foreign enemies.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:52:41 PM EDT

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A lot of good points ITT, this is not one of them. Killing innocent women can children is something the bad guys do, not true Americans.

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Even if they are bombing your homes and families?

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:53:41 PM EDT

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I watched a movie once in which a Chinese guy stopped a tank with a briefcase.

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I saw that movie , tank didn’t kill him other Chinese did though . It’s the order followers that you gotta worry about not the vehicle they drive.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:55:44 PM EDT

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Hard to crew, fuel or maintain a tank or aircraft when a rifle is holding your family hostage

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:56:38 PM EDT

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LOL, they assume most the military will side with tyrants. Its gonna be messy.

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:57:11 PM EDT

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I saw that movie , tank didn’t kill him other Chinese did though . It’s the order ~~followers~~ givers that you gotta ~~worry about not the vehicle they drive.~~ take out

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FIFY

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:57:58 PM EDT

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Goes both ways, don’t forget that.

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Why are you even here?

Mods, Why do allow commies to be on this site again who want undermine everything we stand for????

Posted: 1/14/2020 12:58:58 PM EDT

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Should have reminded her there have been many helicopters shot down. Seems to me we lost a whole bunch of Navy Seals in one incident.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:04:41 PM EDT

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It would be harder for me to learn to drive a tank than it would be for me to obtain one. Getting ammo for it would be a little bit tougher but I’ll bet I could work it out once I had a tank.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:05:46 PM EDT

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Im sure it has been said, OP. Walk away from stupidity.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:06:10 PM EDT

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Why are you even here?

Mods, Why do allow commies to be on this site again who want undermine everything we stand for????

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Feel free to ban me then.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:08:05 PM EDT

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Why are you even here?

Mods, Why do allow commies to be on this site again who want undermine everything we stand for????

Feel free to ban me then.

Any number of us given the ability would do so in a heart beat.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:09:28 PM EDT

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butt stroke the lib, "where's your tank and fighter jet now?"

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:09:29 PM EDT

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Any number of us given the ability would do so in a heart beat.

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And put a bullet in the back of my head, right?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:09:40 PM EDT

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If someone kills the tank driver and their family with an AR15 in the middle of the night....don't really have to worry about tanks very much do ya?

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Roll-Safe-Think-About-It.jpg

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Will the tank or airplane mechanic spend the rest of his life behind barbed wire?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:10:10 PM EDT

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I usually just tell them "I'm sorry to hear that you don't love yourself or your family members enough to protect them". I have yet to have someone give me a solid response after that. Most of the time is some weak assed response like "we need common sense gun laws...blah blah blah" Of course they can't tell me exactly what that looks like.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:11:12 PM EDT

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We’ve been held to a draw by a bunch of illiterate savages when we have the ability to retreat into fortified FOBs at night. Same thing wouldn’t be the case in the scenario he’s talking about.

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The US military domestically isn't very hardened against the population. Security is generally to prevent small groups of terrorists or spies from gaining access, not the American people.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:12:05 PM EDT

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And put a bullet in the back of my head, right?

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Any number of us given the ability would do so in a heart beat.

And put a bullet in the back of my head, right?

That's bait GIF

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:12:15 PM EDT

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I always ask them to tell me about their military experience and training.
Then I ask them about how much military history books they have read.
Then I ask if they give advice on neuro surgery.

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Outstanding.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:12:49 PM EDT

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I don't understand why these people think that someone who would go that route would be participating in conventional battlefield warfare in the first place.

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I don't understand why these people think that someone who would go that route would be participating in conventional battlefield warfare in the first place.

Because they have no clue what they're talking about, that's why. They're just regurgitating talking points.

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I point out that the military won't be called out on civilians and if it does roll out it will be on our side.
(I hope)

Hope in one hand and shit in the other.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:13:02 PM EDT

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That's bait GIF

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Say it, you scared to show your real colors, @hoodonit?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:13:56 PM EDT

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Say it, you scared to show your real colors, @hoodonit?

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That's bait GIF

Say it, you scared to show your real colors, @hoodonit?

What are my true colors?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:14:37 PM EDT

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I'm not scared of much. I'm just about 100% scared of getting canned up inside a tank. I'm damned certain the enemy should be.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:15:44 PM EDT

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Gorilla tactics are a mother fucker to conventional forces

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:16:45 PM EDT

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I like to turn their logic around on them. "So you think America is horrible for using the military against people in other countries, and you think the military should be defunded or reduced, but you are ok with using the fill might of the military against civilians in America?"

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:17:06 PM EDT

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As for jets and drones... do liberals think they would drop jdams on Americans on American soil? Lol. Dumb shit liberals

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They obviously don’t think it’s such a leap for them to use tanks and jets and drones against us. They’re already predisposed to it. It’s pretty much a forgone conclusion in their mind.

So why do we (you and I) think they won’t do it when the time comes?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:17:09 PM EDT

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What are my true colors?

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Why don’t you tell me? You scared?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:17:30 PM EDT

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Say it, you scared to show your real colors, @hoodonit?

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That's bait GIF

Say it, you scared to show your real colors, @hoodonit?

Ok I found my balls and I'll say it... I wish you and a couple others would be banned from this site indefinitely. I find the site not as fun as it used to be with members like you. There I said it. Don't report me bro.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:18:13 PM EDT

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Make no mistake, a bunch of armed citizens with neutered ARs are gonna loose vs the might of the US military... but the destruction caused would be enough that there'd be no country left to rule, not to mention the military is made up of citizens itself who (hopefully) wouldn't exactly be willing to destroy their own homes/people.

It's MAD... Mutually Assured Destruction. As long as the civilians are armed, it will never happen.

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That depends on the number of armed citizens. Only a small part of the military is actual combat troops, and the US military isn't set up to face the American people. If 15 M Americans rose up tomorrow it would be over and the military could do very little if it wanted to.

And neutered ARs means nothing, FA capability in such a situation would be a very marginal advantage for a few users at most.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:19:00 PM EDT

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co-worker has a valid point...

citizens should be allowed to have all the small arms, tanks, light and heavy mgs, manpads and stuff that a militia would have. that is what the 2nd was about, the ability of the citizens to defined themselves against tyranny and the various weapons that would allow that.

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Yup. “Well regulated” means exactly that, well supplied and well armed.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:19:54 PM EDT

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Ok I found my balls and I'll say it... I wish you and a couple others would be banned from this site indefinitely. I find the site not as fun as it used to be with members like you. There I said it. Don't report me bro.

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I never reported anyone in here.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:21:00 PM EDT

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To be fair, a buddy of mine who was a tank commander in Iraq said the fights usually ended when he showed up. Only the really dumb ones stuck around and usually caught rounds from one of the various crew serve size weapons he had mounted. The fuck nuts with RPGs took main gun fire. There usually wasnt much left of them to scrape up.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:22:07 PM EDT

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I learned about ieds from the us military. You can freely download the improvised arms and explosive tm

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This is why vets like you are feared by the statists. 11 degrees is crucial (hey, that's the same for the crown on a target gun).

You guys know how to do things and aren't under direct supervision of the state.

Ultimately it boils down to whether the people of any nation puts up with the BS being shoved down their throats. Hopefully the Persians can boot out the ayatollahs. I pray that the Canadians dump Soi Boi and France rid itself of Mac(a)ron(i) (It's the 60th week of Guilet Juane/yellow vest protests). Hopefully we can shut down the statists like Newsance (Gov. of CA), Blackface Northam, Bloomer-boy, Miss Nancy, Fineswine, Shifty-Ship, Donkey-face, Burn (champagne socialist), Creepy Uncle Joe, Bathhouse Barry, and many above them.

Hurrah for Boris (Johnson) and Trump!

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:23:15 PM EDT

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We kicked Englands' ass and they had better equipment, to my knowledge anyhow.

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We kicked England's ass with a lot of help from other European powers and because England didn't throw it's full power against us.
In other words, we got lucky

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:24:58 PM EDT

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It's a stupid argument because it doesn't matter.

If we get to the point that the government, or some faction of, is employing MBTs, drones and aircraft on American soil, against American citizens, it doesn't really matter "who can win" because the lifestyle any of us are currently enjoying will be long, long fucking gone.

It's like saying "your fire extinguisher can't fight a fully involved 20 story high rise fire so you may as well give it up."

No, you vapid twat. The fire extinguisher is for fighting the grease fire before it becomes an inferno. Just like the rifle.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:25:57 PM EDT

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Let’s face it..

Our military is way too soft to battle a prolonged insurgency here at home. Morale would quickly plummet and majority would break ranks with their units.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:26:33 PM EDT

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Ask her who drives those tanks and flies those planes?

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And how much they'll worry about their house being burned down, and his wife's head shaved while they are gone.

People don't think insurgency and asymmetric warfare be like it is but it do.

Taliban, Viet Cong.... Many other examples.

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:26:49 PM EDT

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Posted: 1/14/2020 1:27:52 PM EDT

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If true why are we still in Afghanistan?

Posted: 1/14/2020 1:29:04 PM EDT

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We kicked England's ass with a lot of help from other European powers and because England didn't throw it's full power against us.
In other words, we got lucky

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We kicked Englands' ass and they had better equipment, to my knowledge anyhow.

We kicked England's ass with a lot of help from other European powers and because England didn't throw it's full power against us.
In other words, we got lucky

You're right. Most Americans don't realize it became a world war and England was fighting all around the globe. The Colonies generated less revenue than the Caribbean and between the two, England thought the latter was more important.

Yorktown could not have been won w/out French assistance. Naval blockade isolated Cornwallis. Rochambeau advised against an open battle like the assault Washington wanted to do. Washington wisely heeded the advice and laid siege instead. Starved out Cornwallis. Yet there was a larger British army under Clinton in NY. So, comparatively speaking, Yorktown was nothing but symbolic. But it was the breaking point since the British figured the Colonies weren't worth the trouble.