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Posted: 9/13/2012 7:03:37 PM EDT

Home owners assocation says the play house is fine, but its too pink

really? Seriously? WTF have people come to a point that they just dont have anything better to do?

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:06:33 PM EDT

[#1]

It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:14:01 PM EDT

[#2]

HOA's delenda est.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:16:23 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:

It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:17:20 PM EDT

[#4]

If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:22:18 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Great. Just what we need. A bunch of thumpers with guns building little pink shantytowns in their backyards.

Property values are a community right, and it is our fiduciary duty to ensure that none of those rights or values are decreased.

Also, mow your lawn

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:31:35 PM EDT

[#6]

People deliberately and intentionally buy within an HOA for the express purpose of being able to force their neighbors to do what they want with their property. And then they're shocked when their neighbors turn around and do the same thing to them.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:32:08 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Great. Just what we need. A bunch of thumpers with guns building little pink shantytowns in their backyards.

Property values are a community right, and it is our fiduciary duty to ensure that none of those rights or values are decreased.

Also, mow your lawn

That phrase makes me feel pissed off.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:43:47 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Great. Just what we need. A bunch of thumpers with guns building little pink shantytowns in their backyards.

Property values are a community right, and it is our fiduciary duty to ensure that none of those rights or values are decreased.

Also, mow your lawn

That phrase makes me feel pissed off.

It takes a village

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:52:57 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Great. Just what we need. A bunch of thumpers with guns building little pink shantytowns in their backyards.

Property values are a community right, and it is our fiduciary duty to ensure that none of those rights or values are decreased.

Also, mow your lawn

That phrase makes me feel pissed off.

It takes a village

Filling in for a certain

someone today?

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:55:20 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

I don't and I made sure I didn't.

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:57:52 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

Great. Just what we need. A bunch of thumpers with guns building little pink shantytowns in their backyards.

Property values are a community right, and it is our fiduciary duty to ensure that none of those rights or values are decreased.

Also, mow your lawn

That phrase makes me feel pissed off.

It takes a village

Filling in for a certain

someone today?

Listen up Ohio. Some places need extra rules and extra sets of eyes so yokels don't turn the neighborhood into El Camino Alley.

Somehow, these HOA's only seem to turn up in so-called "Free States". The only ones we have in CT are 55+ communities.

We coastal folk don't seem to have these issues. However, we do have a very robust and complete zoning code

Posted: 9/13/2012 7:59:41 PM EDT

[#12]

I knew this would concern an HOA before I opened the thread.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:05:15 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
I knew this would concern an HOA before I opened the thread.

Anyone who would make their daughter live in a pink outbuilding should have had Child Protective Services called on them before the HOA.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:08:48 PM EDT

[#14]

Say my street wants to go HOA. I assume they come in and ask you to join the HOA. They can still form the HOA, but if I refuse I don't have to operate under their rules. Is this correct?

I've always kind of wanted to be in an area that has an HOA come in and be approached about joining, refuse and then just do the most outlandish stuff while the rest of the neighborhood in the HOA.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:16:12 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

If it doesn't qualify for a Building Permit, IMO, it isn't a legal structure.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:17:57 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

If it doesn't qualify for a Building Permit, IMO, it isn't a legal structure.

so he makes his daughter live in it?

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:20:40 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

I would not consider it.

Anyone who does is a fool.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:21:24 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

If it doesn't qualify for a Building Permit, IMO, it isn't a legal structure.

so he makes his daughter live in it?

If the HOA uses the legal definition of a structure to base their decision on, I am saying this may not meet the De Minimis condition.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:22:25 PM EDT

[#19]

HOAs are nothing more than communism on a neighborhood scale. Little Stalins looking to excert power over thier neighbors.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:23:01 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:23:10 PM EDT

[#21]

[HOA apologist] It starts with pink playhouses. Next thing you know they'll be running a meth lab from the basement and have a Camaro on blocks in the overgrown front yard. [/HOA apologist]

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:46:54 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
HOAs are nothing more than communism on a neighborhood scale. Little Stalins looking to excert power over thier neighbors.

If only they could exert power over their neighbor's spelling.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:47:24 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

If it doesn't qualify for a Building Permit, IMO, it isn't a legal structure.

so he makes his daughter live in it?

If the HOA uses the legal definition of a structure to base their decision on, I am saying this may not meet the De Minimis condition.

its a pink house, with little windows, and little roof, and little awnings. It's a structure.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:55:20 PM EDT

[#24]

Hell, might as well have it assessed. CYA and all that.

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:57:26 PM EDT

[#25]

I would like to <CoC Violation> all HOA's...

Posted: 9/13/2012 8:57:55 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

I would not consider it.

Anyone who does is a fool.

This.

Posted: 9/13/2012 9:04:10 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

This is true but sometimes HOAs ought to be challenged.

Posted: 9/13/2012 11:43:36 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you don't like HOA rules, do not live in an HOA subdivision.

This is true but sometimes HOAs ought to be challenged.

Depending on who and how the HOA is run.. some of them have.. how should I put it.. Living by-laws. Just like some LEO's make up the laws.. The HOA can to, but then they can put it into their by-laws, and then put a lien on your house! I would say these are the most extreme and rare conditions though. Who regulates the corrupt HOA's?

There was a funny line from somone in a past HOA thread.. the member said his german neighbor called their HOA the "Garden Gestapo".. FOUND IT..

CBR900 [Team Member]
4/16/2012 7:17:46 AM MST
While talking to a fellow condo owner in Arlington, I brought up the heavy-handed tactics of the HOA. Said owner happened to be German. He replied:

"Ach, ya! the 'garden gestapo'"

I chuckled at that but told him I thought we usually just call them "tea-pot tyrants" in English. Maybe he was on to something?

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:03:28 AM EDT

[#29]

Typical disgusta (Augusta) BS.

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:06:45 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
HOAs are nothing more than communism on a neighborhood scale. Little Stalins looking to excert power over thier neighbors.

Usually effeminate men who have no power at home, so they take it out on their neighbors.

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:10:20 AM EDT

[#31]

Little pink houses for you and me.

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:13:35 AM EDT

[#32]

in 1997 my parents HOA sued them because they changed their house from 1970's brown to a more modern gray color. The HOA sued my parents to change it back to brown and also for $80,000(yes, i kid you not $80K) in "neighborhood damages". It took a year to get through the court but the HOA lost and the judged ruled the HOA has no power over the home owners at all. Their neighbors voted every board member off the HOA.

FUCK HOA's and the lame assholes that serve on them......burn in hell f******!!!!

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:21:03 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

Yep, a well maintained and built playhouse in the backyard of a development is horrible. It doesn't signify the area as a nice friendly place to raise your kids at all. But a lawsuit over a kids playhouse, now THAT will make the values go up considering what families want.

ETA: Are you the new expcustom?

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:30:33 AM EDT

[#34]

I bet it's set up just like my HOA rules. The biggest no no is not asking permission to build first! Then 2nd, you have to kiss the ass of the landscape comitee! They ok the color used. In our CC&R's all colors have to be a nuetral earth toned color! Like all branches of government you have people that insist everything be done "By The Book"! A good HOA will work with the family in getting them back in compliance. Ours will even get work details together if a neighbor has a hard time

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:34:48 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

Yep, a well maintained and built playhouse in the backyard of a development is horrible. It doesn't signify the area as a nice friendly place to raise your kids at all. But a lawsuit over a kids playhouse, now THAT will make the values go up considering what families want.

ETA: Are you the new expcustom?

He sure has been trying really hard lately to get noticed with those old school thread-trolling tactics, so probably.

Posted: 9/14/2012 1:19:24 AM EDT

[#36]

HOA = communism

Posted: 9/14/2012 1:52:03 AM EDT

[#37]

My neighbor keeps an inflatable, bright-pink, princess castle pool in his back yard for his great grand daughter (him, son, granddaughter and gg-daughter all live there). The old biddies from the home owners association drive by and give him the evil eye every day but can't do anything but apply peer pressure, because the HOA starts at the house next to his, my house is also not a member (the neighborhood was built in phases, 1 isn't involved, 2 and 3 are; 1 has wells and septic, no sidewalk and 40% larger lots).

Its kinda fun to be outside with a shovel digging up whatever I want, someone walks by and asks what I'm up to, "I dunno, just decided to start digging" "I thought you needed HOA approval to change landscaping?" "I don't have a sidewalk, I don't answer to them"

Kharn

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:03:17 AM EDT

[#38]

I was very close to physically throwing 2 HOA shit heads off of my property last year......I woke up and went out to get the paper only to find these two ass clowns with a tree saw, trimming an Oak tree on my property. When I asked "WTF" they showed me a xerox piece of paper saying that the HOA decided to trim trees that didn't meet certain specifications. I was livid and threw them off of the property.....initially they refused to leave (!) telling me they have the authority to enter my property, at will. I responded with a "move now or get hurt". They left.

Gist.....this was criminal trespass as explained to the HOA Prez by the responding Deputy, once I called 911. The HOA is obligated to notify in writing each resident at least twice before any action is taken and then only enter the residents property with permission. If the resident declines to give permission the the HOA has the option of suing the resident in civil court......and will probably win but regardless that's the process.

Turns out that #1...my tree was not out of standard and #2..the guys doing the trimming were neighbors/friends of the HOA president and were profiting greatly from this work.

The BL is this....in FL HOAs have enormous power but it's not unlimited. Many of the HOA boards have become dumping grounds of old, bitter retirees who now, for once in their life, have a chance at exercising a bit of "power".

This is what I've come to expect from HOAs and once I sell this home in the next 2-3 years I'll settle as far away as I can from these types of little people. Hopefully my next home will be in the middle of 20 or so acres and trespassing will have serious consequences.

And yes I was armed....

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:06:39 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Little pink houses for you and me.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Pinkhouses45.jpg/220px-Pinkhouses45.jpg

More like little pinko houses.

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:08:18 AM EDT

[#40]

Went I built my 2 story garage in the back of the property, the lady that lives in the HOA community behind my house went ape-shit. She tried everything in her power to get construction halted.

I imagine she is the HOA nazi in that neighborhood.

My property is non HOA.

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:21:07 AM EDT

[#41]

Big pink killdozer

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:39:17 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

It doesn't look as though it was explicitly against the HOA covenant.

It seems the HOA is trying to argue that she needed approval to build/paint this "structure," which probably doesn't fall under the definition of a structure (such as a garage or carport) according to the family of the girl. It's a freaking little playhouse, who seriously gives a shit except for busybody liberals?

This is fucking stupid.

If it doesn't qualify for a Building Permit, IMO, it isn't a legal structure.

This.

Posted: 9/14/2012 2:41:55 AM EDT

[#43]

Years ago i lived in a HOA community in Florida, it was total bullshit. Now i live on 1.5 acres worry free.

Posted: 9/14/2012 3:07:07 AM EDT

[#44]

I have always been vehemently against HOA's.

I have come to see the error of my ways.

HOA's are a needed thing. I am happy that they exist.

There will always be obsessive control freaks that feel that they have the right to control the use of your property due to its proximity to theirs. These people will NEVER abandon their ways. HOA's, as I see it, provides these people a place to utilize their skill-set. Moreover, it gives them a place to exist VERY FAR FROM ME.

Posted: 9/14/2012 3:09:09 AM EDT

[#45]

Meh....Yard Nazis.

Posted: 9/14/2012 3:09:24 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

Yep, a well maintained and built playhouse in the backyard of a development is horrible. It doesn't signify the area as a nice friendly place to raise your kids at all. But a lawsuit over a kids playhouse, now THAT will make the values go up considering what families want.

ETA: Are you the new expcustom?

He sure has been trying really hard lately to get noticed with those old school thread-trolling tactics, so probably.

I just don't get why you guys insist on moving to a HOA neighborhood, and then want to be "special" and break the rules that everyone agreed to. Like everyone needs their own little pink house

Posted: 9/14/2012 3:10:48 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's against the CC&R's.

Those are my property values too bubb!

You shouldn't had signed the contract when you moved in!

I bet they have other zoning issues that they will pay dearly for

Yep, a well maintained and built playhouse in the backyard of a development is horrible. It doesn't signify the area as a nice friendly place to raise your kids at all. But a lawsuit over a kids playhouse, now THAT will make the values go up considering what families want.

ETA: Are you the new expcustom?

I think it shows the strength and determination of the HOA board. I don't want some lazy interlopers writing off bullshit expenses because they sit on the HOA board, I'd want them to actually do something that is visible and productive.