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Why didn't the lifeguard save Helen Keller from drowning?
Click To View Spoiler She was wearing mittens.
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I read that as Helen Keller was built. . . like a brick shithouse.
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Quoted: How do you piss off helen keller? Leave the plunger in the toilet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But what is the rest of the joke? I’m going to use that tonight when I tell everyone HK was a retard |
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CLERKS 2 Helen Keller I too believe Helen Keller was a puppet, a prop for Anne Sullivan. |
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Quoted: My sister had a friend who was a dead ringer for wrestler Greg Valentine. She wasn't a lesbian though. She was a prolific slut. It is a sad statement about males that she never had any problem finding a guy to do the Matress Mambo with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My sister had a friend who was a dead ringer for wrestler Greg Valentine. She wasn't a lesbian though. She was a prolific slut. It is a sad statement about males that she never had any problem finding a guy to do the Matress Mambo with. Judgemental much? Jeez. Who cares who or how many people a person sleeps with? |
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Quoted: Do you have any actual evidence to support your assertions? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whether one likes her or not, she overcame her disabilities and did accomplish all the things she is credited with. Did she though? Do you have any actual evidence to support your assertions? she owned and operated the biggest driver's ed school in alabama |
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Quoted: I read it in Norm Macdonald's voice for some reason. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes. I think you may have saved this thread. I read it in Norm Macdonald's voice for some reason. |
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Quoted: Nobody who's deaf and blind from that young of an age has EVER learned to communicate. EVER. She's the only one, who just happened to perfectly mimic her teachers political philosophy. Fuckin weird right? Also it's mildly entertaining and worth a listen, unless it'll distract you from your hallmark holiday movie. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. Nobody who's deaf and blind from that young of an age has EVER learned to communicate. EVER. She's the only one, who just happened to perfectly mimic her teachers political philosophy. Fuckin weird right? Also it's mildly entertaining and worth a listen, unless it'll distract you from your hallmark holiday movie. Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. |
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Quoted: Do you have any evidence to support the fact that she was the ONLY deaf and blind person from that young of a age to communicate? Or are we just going to take a socialist who used her to as a puppet to further her political goals' word for it? Also bonus video here's Helen talking. She's just traded bro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8 View Quote Even with her deaf-speak she has a twinge of the Mid-Atlantic accent. Weird shit. |
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Quoted: Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. View Quote Must be an interesting field. I can roughly imagine how a person with no language can think, but a person with no sight or language? If they are truly deaf and blind they have no frame of reference for anything, nothing but smell and touch. How do they not essentially just subsist as vegetables in the absence of stimuli? Almost any movement or action seems as if it would be limited to instinctive. If they "visually" "think" things must be incredibly abstract, like synesthesia on steroids. Doing without one or the other would be bad enough. Without both you might as well be the subject of Metallica's One. |
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Oh, I'm the only intervenor here. I was hired by University of Texas - Dallas and the Callier Center for Communication Disorders for a specialized training model for deaf blind. I speak hand sign. I teach deaf blind children to cook. And, put the dishes in the dishwasher.
No, they do not do this. I only saw the D/B at Texas School for the Blind and the specialty model. But, a fair sampling. Mimic, yes, they could mimic their intervenor. That's some weird kind of abuse. Trained monkey. https://www.intervenors.ca/become-an-intervenor |
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Quoted: Quoted: Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. She was 19 months. I also teach sign language to deaf blind using Applied Behavioral tech. They do acquire language. Not yours, perhaps. Non verbal - yes. |
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Helen was the lead singer for Blind Melon Chitlin's band. She kept rythum by the beat of the drum through the floor.
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Quoted: But, it was on YouTube!!!!! It must be true, like the video saying you don't need assault rifles with high capacity View Quote Yea, because your argument of something happening for the only time in human history and then never again even though we had huge advances in treatment makes a lot more sense. Because you saw a movie about it. You people are funny. |
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Quoted: I have no doubt but were they born that way or did they lose those systems at an older age? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I also teach sign language to deaf blind using Applied Behavioral tech. They do acquire language. Not yours, perhaps. Non verbal - yes. I have no doubt but were they born that way or did they lose those systems at an older age? Deaf blind often accompanies viral infections before birth. Sometimes, genetic stuff. Rubella is kept at bay for a reason. The only horror loss at an older age I know of, and also work with, is Rett's Syndrome. Rett's hits suddenly at about age two, one day your daughter is gone forever. But, not. |
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Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. |
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Quoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. Yeah. P.T. Barnum. |
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Quoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes. View Quote |
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Quoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes. View Quote Why yes, yes it is. The fact of the matter is that 99.8% of transgender women to men are simply Bull Dykes playing dress up. |
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Quoted: A lot of the "Past" is just that THE PAST!! We weren't there and the people that wrote history wrote it in their view. THIER way. People in this town look up to Martha Berry think she is practically a saint. My Grandmother Told a different story. One of a Hustler and Whore. Gee I wonder why that Building has Fords name on it. Go figure. View Quote |
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Quoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. View Quote And Keller had a "boyfriend" who was a socialist journalist while she was supposedly writing her various socialist articles and books. |
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Quoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. What was Helen Keller’s gain? First tabula rasa? |
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Quoted: Quoted: My wife ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center for deaf/blind people. What's her take on this theory? OP and his theory are full of shit. My wife, like I said, ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center, and she has worked extensively with deaf blind people. They can and do, in fact, learn to communicate. My wife has worked with many deaf blind people as their "intervenor" and is university trained in the skills needed. There are lots of DB people, both those were congenitally DB and those who became DB later in life, like HK. Each case is different. HK had scarlet fever at 19 months and many kids have a huge vocabulary by then so OP's theory is wrong right off the bat. HK was not learning from a position of never being sighted or never having spoke. The question of whether Sullivan polluted her brain with socialist ideals is a whole other question. My wife sees it as more of a fight for civil rights. Back then, people like that were often shunned and put away in institutions, especially if they were poor but rich people did it too. (see the Kennedys). It's not beyond the realm of possibility that someone in that position might feel the need to be treated differently. The reason HK was able to do what she did was she came from a family of means who could afford to have an intervenor with her 24hrs a day. It's understandable she might want poor people to be able to have the same opportunities. |
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Quoted: OP and his theory are full of shit. My wife, like I said, ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center, and she has worked extensively with deaf blind people. They can and do, in fact, learn to communicate. My wife has worked with many deaf blind people as their "intervenor" and is university trained in the skills needed. There are lots of DB people, both those were congenitally DB and those who became DB later in life, like HK. Each case is different. HK had scarlet fever at 19 months and many kids have a huge vocabulary by then so OP's theory is wrong right off the bat. HK was not learning from a position of never being sighted or never having spoke. The question of whether Sullivan polluted her brain with socialist ideals is a whole other question. My wife sees it as more of a fight for civil rights. Back then, people like that were often shunned and put away in institutions, especially if they were poor but rich people did it too. (see the Kennedys). It's not beyond the realm of possibility that someone in that position might feel the need to be treated differently. The reason HK was able to do what she did was she came from a family of means who could afford to have an intervenor with her 24hrs a day. It's understandable she might want poor people to be able to have the same opportunities. View Quote Totally open to being wrong. Can I have some articles or studies on this from people who became blind deaf from a very early age? 0-1.5 years or so? FULLY deaf blind. @captainpooby |
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