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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:26:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to Helen.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: .... you leave the plunger in the toilet What? That seem like a punchline to a funny joke But what is the rest of the joke? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:27:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But what is the rest of the joke? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:29:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this some new qanon flat earth chemtrail conspiracy or something?  But, it was on YouTube!!!!! It must be true, like the video saying you don't need assault rifles with high capacity |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:30:01 PM EDT
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Of all the stupid shit to get excited about.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:32:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:33:01 PM EDT
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Flat earth too amirite
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:35:02 PM EDT
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I read that as Helen Keller was built. . . like a brick shithouse.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center for deaf/blind people. What's her take on this theory? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you piss off helen keller? Leave the plunger in the toilet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But what is the rest of the joke? I’m going to use that tonight when I tell everyone HK was a retard 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:39:20 PM EDT
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dumbest thread so far today
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:48:46 PM EDT
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 CLERKS 2 Helen Keller I too believe Helen Keller was a puppet, a prop for Anne Sullivan. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My sister had a friend who was a dead ringer for wrestler Greg Valentine. She wasn't a lesbian though. She was a prolific slut. It is a sad statement about males that she never had any problem finding a guy to do the Matress Mambo with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My sister had a friend who was a dead ringer for wrestler Greg Valentine. She wasn't a lesbian though. She was a prolific slut. It is a sad statement about males that she never had any problem finding a guy to do the Matress Mambo with. Judgemental much? Jeez. Who cares who or how many people a person sleeps with? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:22:31 PM EDT
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She was literally a Puppet the whole time. Like Biden.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:27:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have any actual evidence to support your assertions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whether one likes her or not, she overcame her disabilities and did accomplish all the things she is credited with. Did she though? Do you have any actual evidence to support your assertions? she owned and operated the biggest driver's ed school in alabama |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:29:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read it in Norm Macdonald's voice for some reason. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes.  I think you may have saved this thread. I read it in Norm Macdonald's voice for some reason. 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryKeeping this |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:36:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody who's deaf and blind from that young of an age has EVER learned to communicate. EVER. She's the only one, who just happened to perfectly mimic her teachers political philosophy. Fuckin weird right? Also it's mildly entertaining and worth a listen, unless it'll distract you from your hallmark holiday movie.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. Nobody who's deaf and blind from that young of an age has EVER learned to communicate. EVER. She's the only one, who just happened to perfectly mimic her teachers political philosophy. Fuckin weird right? Also it's mildly entertaining and worth a listen, unless it'll distract you from your hallmark holiday movie. Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have any evidence to support the fact that she was the ONLY deaf and blind person from that young of a age to communicate? Or are we just going to take a socialist who used her to as a puppet to further her political goals' word for it? Also bonus video here's Helen talking. She's just traded bro.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ch_H8pt9M8Even with her deaf-speak she has a twinge of the Mid-Atlantic accent. Weird shit. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Deaf/Blind Rubella children were in my clinical practicums. And so....whaddya got? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:43:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. Must be an interesting field. I can roughly imagine how a person with no language can think, but a person with no sight or language? If they are truly deaf and blind they have no frame of reference for anything, nothing but smell and touch. How do they not essentially just subsist as vegetables in the absence of stimuli? Almost any movement or action seems as if it would be limited to instinctive. If they "visually" "think" things must be incredibly abstract, like synesthesia on steroids. Doing without one or the other would be bad enough. Without both you might as well be the subject of Metallica's One. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:43:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The condition worked out ok for that kid that played pinball. He was a real Wizard. But for which House?: Hufflepuff, Slytherin, Ravenclaw or Gryffindor? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:44:38 PM EDT
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You guys didn't know that?
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Posted: 12/24/2021 3:47:29 PM EDT
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She was a wizard at pinball however.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:03:15 PM EDT
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Oh, I'm the only intervenor here. I was hired by University of Texas - Dallas and the Callier Center for Communication Disorders for a specialized training model for deaf blind. I speak hand sign. I teach deaf blind children to cook. And, put the dishes in the dishwasher.
No, they do not do this. I only saw the D/B at Texas School for the Blind and the specialty model. But, a fair sampling. Mimic, yes, they could mimic their intervenor. That's some weird kind of abuse. Trained monkey. https://www.intervenors.ca/become-an-intervenor |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. She was 19 months. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:04:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was 19 months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ive been around numerous profoundly deaf-blind children and they never acquire speech and language. (My field is language acquisition.) Ive read that HK became disabled when she was in her twos which could account for her picking up some language. She was 19 months. I also teach sign language to deaf blind using Applied Behavioral tech. They do acquire language. Not yours, perhaps. Non verbal - yes. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:09:52 PM EDT
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Why couldn't she drive?
Because she was a woman. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I also teach sign language to deaf blind using Applied Behavioral tech. They do acquire language. Not yours, perhaps. Non verbal - yes. I have no doubt but were they born that way or did they lose those systems at an older age? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:11:27 PM EDT
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Helen was the lead singer for Blind Melon Chitlin's band. She kept rythum by the beat of the drum through the floor.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:12:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But, it was on YouTube!!!!! It must be true, like the video saying you don't need assault rifles with high capacity Yea, because your argument of something happening for the only time in human history and then never again even though we had huge advances in treatment makes a lot more sense. Because you saw a movie about it. You people are funny. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:14:04 PM EDT
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The rapist broke her fingers so she couldn't tell her mom.
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:16:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no doubt but were they born that way or did they lose those systems at an older age? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I also teach sign language to deaf blind using Applied Behavioral tech. They do acquire language. Not yours, perhaps. Non verbal - yes. I have no doubt but were they born that way or did they lose those systems at an older age? Deaf blind often accompanies viral infections before birth. Sometimes, genetic stuff. Rubella is kept at bay for a reason. The only horror loss at an older age I know of, and also work with, is Rett's Syndrome. Rett's hits suddenly at about age two, one day your daughter is gone forever. But, not. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. Yeah. P.T. Barnum. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:44:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:53:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2021 4:54:59 PM EDT
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Well known since the late 40's. All a LIE!
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes. 
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:02:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whether one likes her or not, she overcame her disabilities and did accomplish all the things she is credited with. No, she didn't. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the thread title I thought it was about her being a bull dyke. Is that term even still used? Bull dyke. Speaking of bull dykes, We had a neighbor who was a Barney Rubble lesbo. My daughter call her burly Shirley . Her real name was Shirley. Thank god that whole clan packed up and moved to Montana. Merry Christmas everyone, even the bull dykes. Why yes, yes it is. The fact of the matter is that 99.8% of transgender women to men are simply Bull Dykes playing dress up. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:10:58 PM EDT
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Who cares
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:16:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of the "Past" is just that THE PAST!! We weren't there and the people that wrote history wrote it in their view. THIER way. People in this town look up to Martha Berry think she is practically a saint. My Grandmother Told a different story. One of a Hustler and Whore. Gee I wonder why that Building has Fords name on it. Go figure.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. And Keller had a "boyfriend" who was a socialist journalist while she was supposedly writing her various socialist articles and books. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:23:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m not burning a quarter of an hour listening to that. Give me a one or two liner on why the bitch was a fraud. I listened to some...the RDV: Ann was apparently the only deaf/blind person in world history to break from her inner world to ours to normal mental functionality beyond the crucial development stage of 19 months. Teacher (Sullivan) did "reach" her, but because of her sole access to Ann's mind, he proposes that Sullivan greatly exaggerated what Ann was communicating to her. Sullivan's gain in this exaggeration was praise, world notariety, wealth and a platform to bugle "Ann's" socialist world view. It is not that Keller was the fraud. She was not mentally capable. She was used by a fraud for personal gain. Basically, Sullivan used Keller in a way that a ventriloquist might. This sounds very plausible to me. Ventriloquist acts in those days were extremely popular. If she were a fraud, those acts were likely the spur for her act using Keller. What was Helen Keller’s gain? First tabula rasa? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's her take on this theory? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My wife ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center for deaf/blind people. What's her take on this theory? OP and his theory are full of shit. My wife, like I said, ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center, and she has worked extensively with deaf blind people. They can and do, in fact, learn to communicate. My wife has worked with many deaf blind people as their "intervenor" and is university trained in the skills needed. There are lots of DB people, both those were congenitally DB and those who became DB later in life, like HK. Each case is different. HK had scarlet fever at 19 months and many kids have a huge vocabulary by then so OP's theory is wrong right off the bat. HK was not learning from a position of never being sighted or never having spoke. The question of whether Sullivan polluted her brain with socialist ideals is a whole other question. My wife sees it as more of a fight for civil rights. Back then, people like that were often shunned and put away in institutions, especially if they were poor but rich people did it too. (see the Kennedys). It's not beyond the realm of possibility that someone in that position might feel the need to be treated differently. The reason HK was able to do what she did was she came from a family of means who could afford to have an intervenor with her 24hrs a day. It's understandable she might want poor people to be able to have the same opportunities. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP and his theory are full of shit. My wife, like I said, ran the Canadian Hellen Keller Center, and she has worked extensively with deaf blind people. They can and do, in fact, learn to communicate. My wife has worked with many deaf blind people as their "intervenor" and is university trained in the skills needed. There are lots of DB people, both those were congenitally DB and those who became DB later in life, like HK. Each case is different. HK had scarlet fever at 19 months and many kids have a huge vocabulary by then so OP's theory is wrong right off the bat. HK was not learning from a position of never being sighted or never having spoke. The question of whether Sullivan polluted her brain with socialist ideals is a whole other question. My wife sees it as more of a fight for civil rights. Back then, people like that were often shunned and put away in institutions, especially if they were poor but rich people did it too. (see the Kennedys). It's not beyond the realm of possibility that someone in that position might feel the need to be treated differently. The reason HK was able to do what she did was she came from a family of means who could afford to have an intervenor with her 24hrs a day. It's understandable she might want poor people to be able to have the same opportunities. Totally open to being wrong. Can I have some articles or studies on this from people who became blind deaf from a very early age? 0-1.5 years or so? FULLY deaf blind. @captainpooby |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:27:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who cares You clicked on it…. So I guess you?
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to add she was a staunch atheist as well, but all communists/socialist are: it's a tenet of communism. Eh? I understood she was an adherent of Swedenborgianism. It may be a cuckoo spirituality, but it's not atheist. |
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