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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:15:59 AM EDT
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Besides meds and exercise read on on the DASH diet.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:19:14 AM EDT
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Besides meds and exercise read on on the DASH diet. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:20:28 AM EDT
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Have you tried eating healthier? It can be done naturally if you eat healthy.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:29:04 AM EDT
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Exercise. It does wonders.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:31:16 AM EDT
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First thing in the morning is not necessarily the best time to take a daily BP reading. It's a pain in the ass, but try taking a reading morning, noon-ish, and night every day for a week or two for a more accurate picture of what it's really doing.
Then, treat it if necessary, eat right, live right, and go on about your business. Life is too short to worry about how long it's going to be. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:38:58 AM EDT
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First thing in the morning is not necessarily the best time to take a daily BP reading. It's a pain in the ass, but try taking a reading morning, noon-ish, and night every day for a week or two for a more accurate picture of what it's really doing. Then, treat it if necessary, eat right, live right, and go on about your business. Life is too short to worry about how long it's going to be. I'm on a 3rd shift schedule |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:54:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:57:11 AM EDT
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I took my blood pressure a few days ago, it's 80/40
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Posted: 4/24/2017 4:57:16 AM EDT
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Mine was 190 over something when I finally found out and did something.
It was a two part process: 1) getting on meds, and 2) getting rid of the soul sucking job that was slowly killing me. Now that "2" has happened, I'm hoping to cut back on "1" further. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 5:12:04 AM EDT
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Ask your doc about Losartan.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 6:01:09 AM EDT
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I take 10m of lisinopril . It works great for me. BP is a finicky bitch. My pressure was border line high when I was 160 pounds running 25 miles a week along with other exercises. Eating healthy enough. It just runs high in my family . Genetics... Good luck Wardawg
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Posted: 4/24/2017 6:33:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOP, go on a keto diet, cut carbs to 20 grams per day and lose weight and you will start seeing your BP come down in 2 weeks or so |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 6:49:19 AM EDT
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High blood pressure is no joke. When I went in to the doctor for the first time in years, and took my blood pressure it was so high they freaked out and escorted me to emergency room - apparently I was way off the charts. After working through a couple of different meds, going to a dietician and getting some weight off, my blood pressure is controlled but trends high.
It's not uncommon to have to change meds a time or two to get it right. Go to the doctor and do what is recommended. Failing to do that you can have a stroke, have kidney failure, go blind, etc. Not a happy thing to happen. Get treated. Or set an world record BP like I did. 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:02:38 AM EDT
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Most medical people I have encnountered either do not how or will not take the time to measure BP correctly.
You should be allowed to sit quietly for at least 5 minutes before the reading. They should not talk to you or ask you questions during the reading, nor should you talk. The cuff should be at the level of the top of your heart, not hanging down by your side; that is, your arm should be elevated and resting. A lot of people are misdiagnosed with high blood pressure. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/medical/bhs/booklet/proced.htm#WhitCoat Also, I rarely hear people talk about Pulse Pressure. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:17:06 AM EDT
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Most medical people I have encnountered either do not how or will not take the time to measure BP correctly. You should be allowed to sit quietly for at least 5 minutes before the reading. They should not talk to you or ask you questions during the reading, nor should you talk. The cuff should be at the level of the top of your heart, not hanging down by your side; that is, your arm should be elevated and resting. A lot of people are misdiagnosed with high blood pressure. http://www.abdn.ac.uk/medical/bhs/booklet/proced.htm#WhitCoat Also, I rarely hear people talk about Pulse Pressure. Insisted I didnt need the large cuff even though it kept coming off and she did a few other strange things I was not familiar with. Gave me a reading of 245/140. Now I had a reading like that, but I felt it at the time, hot sweaty dizzy. Told the doc it seemed suspect, he took it and came up with 145/90 which I could believe. My Cardiologist (Nurse Practitioner) practically jumped up and down when I mentioned Paleo. I did paleo for two months and lost 30lbs and pressure normalized. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:22:16 AM EDT
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Could be as simple as electrolytes or mineral balance
-Is sodium intake over 2000mg? This is the easiest issue to fix. IIRC the real culprit is the chloride attached to the sodium (NaCl - table salt). -Are you getting enough potassium (ie the RDA)? Sodium and potassium are in balance with each other. Potassium regulates heart rhythm and relaxes muscle. -Are you getting enough magnesium? Magnesium also relaxes muscle. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:35:46 AM EDT
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Magnesium is good. Years ago, I took my BP from borderline to normal when I started 7000 IU of Vitamin D a day. Now it looks like that is proven:
http://universityhealthnews.com/daily/heart-health/natural-remedy-for-high-blood-pressure-vitamin-d/ |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:36:02 AM EDT
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A few years ago, I was on BP meds. Hydrochlorothiazide 12.5mg. I was 295# and my BP was in the 150 range. I went paleo for 3 months. Dropped 30-40 pounds. Lowered my BP into the 120s. Felt way better. After those 3 months, eat more natural foods and limit the sugar intake. Have kept the weight off and got the meds after a year and doctor approval.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:40:25 AM EDT
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I had one girl take my pressure and she was awful. Insisted I didnt need the large cuff even though it kept coming off and she did a few other strange things I was not familiar with. Gave me a reading of 245/140. Now I had a reading like that, but I felt it at the time, hot sweaty dizzy. Told the doc it seemed suspect, he took it and came up with 145/90 which I could believe. My Cardiologist (Nurse Practitioner) practically jumped up and down when I mentioned Paleo. I did paleo for two months and lost 30lbs and pressure normalized. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:50:48 AM EDT
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I take 2 10mm of Lisinopril at night before bed.
It makes me sleep like a log. Also, one side effect is a constant dry cough. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:54:30 AM EDT
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I got put on a week after my 32nd birthday
Hereditary for me. All these people recommending diet and exercise... those are deffinately great and helpful, but some of us are just more predisposed. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 7:56:03 AM EDT
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I am on BP meds and am actually going in for my annual physical tomorrow.
Lately in the late afternoon it has been spiking pretty high as in 155/95. I took ten days off of work that started on Good Friday. Starting last Monday I started checking my BP in the evening. And to my surprise it was barely borderline high if even that. Fucking stress from work and I didn't even know I was that stressed. 
I am going to discuss this with my doctor tomorrow. Luckily for me I am retiring at the end of December. I am so done with this work shit. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:01:21 AM EDT
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first thing in the morning is my "end of the night." I'm on a 3rd shift schedule |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:04:25 AM EDT
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Ask your doc about Losartan. OP, do you cook at home or eat out most days? Exercise? Smoke or drink? Diet and exercise changes can take you off meds. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:05:41 AM EDT
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OP, get a portable blood pressure machine off Amazon. I picked up one for $65 that works great.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:07:11 AM EDT
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Magnesium is good. Years ago, I took my BP from borderline to normal when I started 7000 IU of Vitamin D a day. Now it looks like that is proven: http://universityhealthnews.com/daily/heart-health/natural-remedy-for-high-blood-pressure-vitamin-d/ |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:08:47 AM EDT
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I'm on 20mg of the same thing.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:08:59 AM EDT
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My numbers have been worse than yours. Because a blood test I found that I was low on Magnesium (an essential mineral) and started taking over the counter Magnesium oxide tablets. The Mayo Clinic estimates that over 80% of the population is Magnesium deficient and the body uses it in over 300 chemical reactions to make you function properly. Now I am the first to be skeptical about snake oil salesmen, but, I have had a number of issues improve since starting the Magnesium about 6 months ago including reduced blood pressure readings. Some things improved within four hours, others took more like a month.
The Mayo Clinic says if you take diuretics, have had bowel section surgery, take the new stomach acid blockers like Nexium or the generic Omeprazole you are likely to have Magnesium deficiency. Magnesium is something 4 out of 5 people need to supplement. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:13:16 AM EDT
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Try a different class of BP med.
There are heart related BP problems and there are kidney related BP problems. Your kidneys produce a hormone that caused your arteries to constrict....produce too much of that hormone and voila high BP. The trick is that if they are treating you with beta blockers you might not ever get it under control because beta blockers work via the heart and will not keep the kidney hormone in check. For that you need an ace or acr inhibitor. My doc tried me on all the beta blockers after I hit 190/140 and I would still be 140/80+. Just a few mg of that BP med which controls the kidney hormones, voila. Worked like a charm. I now take a calcium channel blocker--thanks to my ace inhibitor hitting generic and the generic didn't work and caused bad heart palpitations. Insurance would no longer cover the brand since there's a generic. Now I run 120/60's best in forever. Ask about different classes of BP meds. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:13:57 AM EDT
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Exercise. It does wonders. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:15:16 AM EDT
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I am on hypertensive drug number 10. Some work some dont all have wonderful side effects
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:16:35 AM EDT
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Try a different class of BP med. There are heart related BP problems and there are kidney related BP problems. Your kidneys produce a hormone that caused your arteries to constrict....produce too much of that hormone and voila high BP. The trick is that if they are treating you with beta blockers you might not ever get it under control because beta blockers work via the heart and will not keep the kidney hormone in check. For that you need an ace or acr inhibitor. My doc tried me on all the beta blockers after I hit 190/140 and I would still be 140/80+. Just a few mg of that BP med which controls the kidney hormones, voila. Worked like a charm. I now take a calcium channel blocker--thanks to my ace inhibitor hitting generic and the generic didn't work and caused bad heart palpitations. Insurance would no longer cover the brand since there's a generic. Now I run 120/60's best in forever. Ask about different classes of BP meds. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:18:30 AM EDT
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It does suck. I've dealt with it my whole life. I take a handful of shit every day and it seems like I get another pill prescribed every time I go to the doc. I think I'm on lisinopril, amlodipine, HCTZ and bystolic at the moment. I'd be pretty happy with 140/80 though. Any lower than that and I get tired and have dizzy spells.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:22:49 AM EDT
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Lol. Lisinopril is an ace inhibitor. If it ends in -olol, that's a beta blocker. Of course I didn't read that closely in the OP and thought he said atenolol. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:23:11 AM EDT
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that chart is why people need high blood pressure meds and get type 2 diabetes. OP, go on a keto diet, cut carbs to 20 grams per day and lose weight and you will start seeing your BP come down in 2 weeks or so Quote HistoryQuoted:
that chart is why people need high blood pressure meds and get type 2 diabetes. OP, go on a keto diet, cut carbs to 20 grams per day and lose weight and you will start seeing your BP come down in 2 weeks or so |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:26:50 AM EDT
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Yup...exercise definitely sucks a lot less than being unhealthy and being a walking heart attack waiting to happen. Yes, exercise helps some case and maybe even most. But for some their BP problems are heredity and can't be controlled by just exercise. So some men think they can exercise it away and die. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:28:13 AM EDT
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As others have said, lose weight.
I did it with just controlling my portions and exercise. I was able to get off of the meds. Cut back on all sugars, especially high fructose corn syrup. Low carbs until you get into a more fit range and then up the carbs to fuel exercise. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:33:23 AM EDT
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Sometimes even within the same class there are some that work better, all depending on personal chemistry. Of course I didn't read that closely in the OP and thought he said atenolol. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:34:35 AM EDT
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That's a very dumb thought process which kills a lot of men every year. Yes, exercise helps some case and maybe even most. But for some their BP problems are heredity and can't be controlled by just exercise. So some men think they can exercise it away and die. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:37:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:09:28 AM EDT
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Those things can help to some degree but yeah. I started having high BP as a kid. I was 6'1" and about 130# as a teenager and had horrific BP. I wish I knew what caused it, but I'm pretty sure it's not being a fatass. I have what I think is hyper responsive blood pressure problems. I think mine acutely responds to stress stimuli and spikes. The rest of the time it is fine and just has the spikes. Like everything it's probably a combination of causes but if it's hereditary or too much of the kidney hormones, you can't exercise that away. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:17:50 AM EDT
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What are good VP measuring machines?
I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist. It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:18:42 AM EDT
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He is only on a whiff of lisinopril. His doc should max it out before making the decision to add another agent unless OP starts having side effects. I do Lisinopril/HCTZ 20/12.5 and it works for me. For home monitoring, I like the Ozeri BP3T I purchased through sears.com. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:21:01 AM EDT
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What are good VP measuring machines? I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist. It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon. It has that magic function that indicates that the cuff is at the same level as your heart, right? Omron is a good brand, I think. Just not at the wrist. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:25:32 AM EDT
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I'm not a believer in measuring at the wrist. I used to have that same Omron. It has that magic function that indicates that the cuff is at the same level as your heart, right? Omron is a good brand, I think. Just not at the wrist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are good VP measuring machines? I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist. It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon. It has that magic function that indicates that the cuff is at the same level as your heart, right? Omron is a good brand, I think. Just not at the wrist. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:31:56 AM EDT
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No doubt exercise helps, I'm not advocating all meds and no exercise. I have what I think is hyper responsive blood pressure problems. I think mine acutely responds to stress stimuli and spikes. The rest of the time it is fine and just has the spikes. Like everything it's probably a combination of causes but if it's hereditary or too much of the kidney hormones, you can't exercise that away. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:33:19 AM EDT
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Exercise. It does wonders. I'm 39. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:33:38 AM EDT
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I've had good luck with my Omron. I've brought it in and compared it to my doctors readings on a few occasions and it's always very close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are good VP measuring machines? I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist. It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon. It has that magic function that indicates that the cuff is at the same level as your heart, right? Omron is a good brand, I think. Just not at the wrist. It runs off batteries or a wall wart. I take Diovan, it works excellent for my inherited high BP (without it I'll run 150/120). Although exercise and proper diet helps, I still need to take meds - I've been on them for the last forty years without any medical problems. 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:43:12 AM EDT
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Yep, I have this one.
 
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Posted: 4/24/2017 9:48:16 AM EDT
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I ignored my high BP way too long, but I finally went to the doctor to do something about it last month. his reading was 140/80 which was the best I've seen in 5 years, I told him I'd just woken up. he put me on 10mg lisinopril based on the past readings I told him (systolic runs in the 150's, diastolic goes all over the place) after 3 weeks on the lisinopril I checked my BP at walmart with the machine sat at 6AM (my day is 4-5PM till 9AM) and got 180/110 I the cuff didn't seem to fit great though. I checked with my BP cuff and stethoscope just now and got 160/100 I plan to get a reading every morning after work till friday. this fucking sucks. I go back in friday to see the doc again. I have a deductible and I'm broke as shit because work isn't giving any overtime so I was REALLY hoping this first drug would do it so I don't have to keep going back in. Ask about Norvasc with you doctor. |
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