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Link Posted: 4/28/2017 11:09:46 AM EDT
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What are good VP measuring machines?

I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist.  It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon.
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Take your machine with you to an appointment  and have it checked against Nurse's measurements.

L-argenine, fish oil, Mg, K, a better diet and weight loss got me down lower than I have been since my teens. Last night I was 134/80.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 11:39:52 AM EDT
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Netofficer:
I'm a retired BP specialist at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. Several things:

BP measurement:
1. Store devices are NOT accurate at all, do not bother checking your BP there. Wrist devices are also poor on average, we use them only in morbidly obese patients and women with mastectomies.
2. Get a home cuff. when using a home cuff the numbers are only meaningful if you do the following;
a. get your device checked by a nurse as being accurate for you
b. make sure cuff is the right size.
c. you need to sit and rest for 3-5 minutes, feet on the floor right arm on a table and then take three readings one minute apart.  your blood pressure is the average of the three.
Some devices will even average the three for you.
Why, because this is how BP risk was determined in past studies so if your BP is 180/100 you know what your risk of stroke and heart attack is based on that BP.

Therapy
Lisinopril is good start. 20 mg is usual full dose, if after 2 weeks, BP at home not less than 135/85 (normal BP at home) then you should be advanced to that dose. then after two weeks at 20 mg if still not below 135/85 and not allergic to sulfa, hydrochlorthiazide is usually added first 12.5 mg then 25 mg.
This is cool as its cheap, effect and comes as a combined pill (both drugs, one tablet). Total drug cost less than $10/month.

DASH Diet: Diet Approach To Stop Hypertension is a Low Salt, Low fat diet which when combined with exercise and weight loss can reduce your need for BP medication.

Finally if you want to email me your address, I have an old home BP that I believe still works that I can send you. graves.john(at)mayo.edu

John
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 11:47:14 AM EDT
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Netofficer:
I'm a retired BP specialist at the Mayo Clinic Rochester. Several things:

BP measurement:
1. Store devices are NOT accurate at all, do not bother checking your BP there. Wrist devices are also poor on average, we use them only in morbidly obese patients and women with mastectomies.
2. Get a home cuff. when using a home cuff the numbers are only meaningful if you do the following;
a. get your device checked by a nurse as being accurate for you
b. make sure cuff is the right size.
c. you need to sit and rest for 3-5 minutes, feet on the floor right arm on a table and then take three readings one minute apart.  your blood pressure is the average of the three.
Some devices will even average the three for you.
Why, because this is how BP risk was determined in past studies so if your BP is 180/100 you know what your risk of stroke and heart attack is based on that BP.

Therapy
Lisinopril is good start. 20 mg is usual full dose, if after 2 weeks, BP at home not less than 135/85 (normal BP at home) then you should be advanced to that dose. then after two weeks at 20 mg if still not below 135/85 and not allergic to sulfa, hydrochlorthiazide is usually added first 12.5 mg then 25 mg.
This is cool as its cheap, effect and comes as a combined pill (both drugs, one tablet). Total drug cost less than $10/month.

DASH Diet: Diet Approach To Stop Hypertension is a Low Salt, Low fat diet which when combined with exercise and weight loss can reduce your need for BP medication.

Finally if you want to email me your address, I have an old home BP that I believe still works that I can send you. graves.john(at)mayo.edu

John
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Stick around sir.
This place needs you.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 11:54:51 AM EDT
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That's a very dumb thought process which kills a lot of men every year.

Yes, exercise helps some case and maybe even most.  But for some their BP problems are heredity and can't be controlled by just exercise.

So some men think they can exercise it away and die.
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I was diagnosed with borderline HBP at 17 years old. I was 145lbs (5'10") and a state level competitive swimmer and distance runner. My dad had HBP his whole life (undiagnosed) and had a stroke at 45 living a pretty healthy lifestyle.

I currently take 5 mg of Bystolic and it keeps my BP around 125/75 whether I am exercising regularly or not. No change. The whole paleo/keto thing is beneficial ONLY in terms of weight loss. Theres nothing magic about it. Counting calories would do the same thing. There is something to be said for limiting nitrates and salt.

It sucks, but it is what it is.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 12:17:06 PM EDT
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The whole paleo/keto thing is beneficial ONLY in terms of weight loss. Theres nothing magic about it. Counting calories would do the same thing. There is something to be said for limiting nitrates and salt.
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That's a very dumb thought process which kills a lot of men every year.

Yes, exercise helps some case and maybe even most.  But for some their BP problems are heredity and can't be controlled by just exercise.

So some men think they can exercise it away and die.
The whole paleo/keto thing is beneficial ONLY in terms of weight loss. Theres nothing magic about it. Counting calories would do the same thing. There is something to be said for limiting nitrates and salt.
Source?
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 9:21:31 AM EDT
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I've had good luck with my Omron. I've brought it in and compared it to my doctors readings on a few occasions and it's always very close.
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What are good VP measuring machines?

I recently got an OMRON model that measures it on the wrist.  It measures it all over the place despite I do it at the same time in the morning or afternoon.
I'm not a believer in measuring at the wrist. I used to have that same Omron.

It has that magic function that indicates that the cuff is at the same level as your heart, right?

Omron is a good brand, I think. Just not at the wrist.
I've had good luck with my Omron. I've brought it in and compared it to my doctors readings on a few occasions and it's always very close.
Correct, I have that one that indicates the right level with the blue light.

I was suspicious about the variation and high results and took it to the doctor's clinic to compare.

Nurse measured systolic 140 using arm cuff and stethoscope.  I took the Omron out and it measured more than 170.   So, definitely off.

It's very convenient but it seems I need to go for the arm cuff model.
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 1:03:25 PM EDT
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The best thing most people can do for their blood pressure is to lose weight and exercise.

It's also the best thing most people can do for their diabetes.
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