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Posted: 6/22/2018 4:29:39 PM EDT

Hi guys, i recently found a really nice like new phrobis m-9 bayonet for my LE6921 for a really good price (130 euros, here is a real affair because m9's are extremely rare and, if you find one in like new conditions, you should expect to pay 350-500 euros). That said, i was wondering how the bayonet was carried from US soldiers, attached to the tactical vest, attached to the belt or in some other way? Thanks ;)

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:38:18 PM EDT

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Ours were never let out of the Arms room.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:39:53 PM EDT

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The scabbard was clipped to the belt...

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:40:26 PM EDT

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Pretty much this.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:41:03 PM EDT

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I was never issued a bayonet when I was in the Army. Whether I was deployed or not.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:42:20 PM EDT

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Mine stayed back in the States.

I did have a fixed blade attached to my plate carrier though. If I was the carry the M9, it would be on my belt.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:43:26 PM EDT

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Never.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:44:09 PM EDT

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In a footlocker back at the barracks.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:45:09 PM EDT

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so i assume almost everyone of you had another fixed blade knife on him.. i have never been deployed in a combat zone but i would definitely carry one if i had the possibility to choose.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:45:46 PM EDT

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I couple guys on my first deployment put them on their IBAs. I kept mine in my tough box.

Supply never even issued them out on subsequent deployments.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:45:49 PM EDT

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Carried in large red tool boxes in the arms room. Nice and easy for the inventory reports.
I think that happened after a Captain stuck a turtle with one, once.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:47:23 PM EDT

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With super rare exceptions, fixed blades (and folders for that matter) were used to pry open crates and open MRE packages. (after Viet Nam and maybe even not there. )

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:48:11 PM EDT

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so i assume almost everyone of you had another fixed blade knife on him.. i have never been deployed in a combat zone but i would definitely carry one if i had the possibility to choose.

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Yes. But not a bayonet. Actually, I used my multi tool 100% of the time. Now that was a godsend!

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:49:26 PM EDT

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I kept mine in my tough box.

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i'd do the same, where did they attached it specifically?

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:50:23 PM EDT

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Yes. But not a bayonet. Actually, I used my multi tool 100% of the time. Now that was a godsend!

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but not fixed blade, right?

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:54:01 PM EDT

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Left side on belt of 782 gear

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:54:10 PM EDT

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In the bottom of a duffle bag. If it ever left the arms room in the first place. What a shit implement.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:54:21 PM EDT

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I had a Gerber fixed blade. Don't remember what model. I bought personally. The multi tool wasn't a fixed blade obviously.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:55:10 PM EDT

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The scabbard clipped onto your web gear belt with an ALICE clip. Usually on the right side behind your magazine pouch and ahead of a canteen pouch. They only left the armory for parades or inspections. We didn't take them when we deployed to the Gulf or Somalia, I can't speak for the post 9/11 era.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:56:42 PM EDT

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By the handle. I tried the blade once and it hurt.

Posted: 6/22/2018 4:58:50 PM EDT

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not so obvious, fixed blades multitool exists, even if i don't find them practical at all

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:00:21 PM EDT

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I saw several of them broken at bayo training...did not intstill confidence in that blade whatsoever.
We were issued the M9 but they never left supply.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:01:14 PM EDT

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we use to have to take them out in the field with us until like, 2005. Attached them to our web belts when we had ALICE stuff and then clipped them into MOLLE when we got FLCs. After that never saw them leave the arms room, don't think we even took any to Iraq in 2008.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:01:43 PM EDT

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Didn't know that.

Edit: When we had training, we attached the scabbards to our belts. I was in we still had LBE's. Only time we ever used them. And that was like 2 or 3 times.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:02:14 PM EDT

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The scabbard clipped onto your web gear belt with an ALICE clip. Usually on the right side behind your magazine pouch and ahead of a canteen pouch. They only left the armory for parades or inspections. We didn't take them when we deployed to the Gulf or Somalia, I can't speak for the post 9/11 era.

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thanks for the info :) so it was basically where you usually have the pistol on the tactical belt?

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:02:24 PM EDT

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I saw several of them broken at bayo training...did not intstill confidence in that blade whatsoever.
We were issued the M9 but they never left supply.

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The m9 is considerably thicker than the m7, the m7 feels cheap and thin compared to the m9. Wonder how that bayonet charge in We Were Soldiers looked like irl.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:03:02 PM EDT

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yep, kept in a sealed foot locker ...

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:04:38 PM EDT

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I carried mine on my ALICE belt for both my 2000 deployment to Kosovo and my 2002 deployment to Afghanistan. Of course, it was in Afghanistan that I found the one I have now. Some GI did a post poor job of securing his and I found it.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:06:21 PM EDT

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We had the older m7 bayonets but I don't think I ever used it or carried it.
I did have/use the smaller aircrew survival knife (fixed blade about 5" long), but it was better at opening cans than cutting.

ETA now that I think about it, I did obsess about sharpening that silly thing. Still don't think I carried it except to layout for inspection.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:06:53 PM EDT

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The m9 is considerably thicker than the m7, the m7 feels cheap and thin compared to the m9. Wonder how that bayonet charge in We Were Soldiers looked like irl.

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I saw several of them broken at bayo training...did not intstill confidence in that blade whatsoever.
We were issued the M9 but they never left supply.

The m9 is considerably thicker than the m7, the m7 feels cheap and thin compared to the m9. Wonder how that bayonet charge in We Were Soldiers looked like irl.

On the other hand, the M7's tang is far and away more substantial, and is not a screw-on piece but integral to the blade. Same with the M6, M5, and M4 Bayonets for the M14, M1 Rifle, and M1 Carbine respectively, as well as the M3 Trench Knife. Seems to have been an OK design overall, as long as you kept to thrusting and didn't try to use it as a saber.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:07:00 PM EDT

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on wich side did you carry it?

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:07:19 PM EDT

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With the pointy end up.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:09:07 PM EDT

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This is the correct way to carry a bayonet. If used correctly, it'll help the grass grow!

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Posted: 6/22/2018 5:09:27 PM EDT

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They are definitely as I have both. I would carry an M7 first though...Those phrobis blades were snapping off near the handle...granted we were hyped up and acting silly, but none the less. They should not have broke. Not a metalurgist here but the metal seems fucky. cool "looking" knife though

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:24:57 PM EDT

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Between our teeth was the preferred technique.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:29:36 PM EDT

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I saw several of them broken at bayo training...did not intstill confidence in that blade whatsoever.
We were issued the M9 but they never left supply.

The m9 is considerably thicker than the m7, the m7 feels cheap and thin compared to the m9. Wonder how that bayonet charge in We Were Soldiers looked like irl.

The actual event where they fixed bayonets and advanced did not result in any significant hand-to-hand combat. IIRC, they did it to recover the guys from the missing platoon at night. The charge at the end of the movie never happened. I think the last large-scale bayonet assault by the U.S. Army occurred in Korea by Colonel (then-Captain) Millet. As I recall it, his company was almost completely out of ammo. He and his company assaulted enemy positions on a hill using bayonets and some hand grenades, resulting in the capture of the hill. He was decorated with the Medal of Honor for it. They used Garands with the 16" M1905 bayonets, which definitely gives a man some reach. Those things were meant to double as short swords.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:32:03 PM EDT

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Upside down on your H-harness with a flare taped to it with 1,000-mile-per-hour tape! Yut!

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:32:42 PM EDT

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On my ruck sack.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:36:58 PM EDT

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Of course! how did you come up with that username, by the way?

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:38:30 PM EDT

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I saw several of them broken at bayo training...did not intstill confidence in that blade whatsoever.
We were issued the M9 but they never left supply.

The m9 is considerably thicker than the m7, the m7 feels cheap and thin compared to the m9. Wonder how that bayonet charge in We Were Soldiers looked like irl.

The m9 is weak because of the tang.

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I believe the m7 has a full tang.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:49:30 PM EDT

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Of course! how did you come up with that username, by the way?

American History. And family History.

Posted: 6/22/2018 5:54:04 PM EDT

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American History. And family History.

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i didn't know there was a link between Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus and american history, cool

Posted: 6/22/2018 6:00:54 PM EDT

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I carried mine on my ALICE belt for both my 2000 deployment to Kosovo and my 2002 deployment to Afghanistan. Of course, it was in Afghanistan that I found the one I have now. Some GI did a post poor job of securing his and I found it.

on wich side did you carry it?

Here's a pic of me at Checkpoint 75, a joint US-Russian checkpoint along the Kosovo/Serbian border, playing with a PKM. If you look closely, you can see my bayonet sticking out from my right side, where it was worn between an ammo pouch and a canteen.

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Posted: 6/22/2018 6:03:00 PM EDT

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Well Marines still carry bayonets...

Posted: 6/22/2018 6:11:28 PM EDT

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Here's a pic of me at Checkpoint 75, a joint US-Russian checkpoint along the Kosovo/Serbian border, playing with a PKM. If you look closely, you can see my bayonet sticking out from my right side, where it was worn between an ammo pouch and a canteen.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/242045/Kosovo_PKM_redacted-584265.JPG

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thanks for the info! couldn't find much anywhere on the web :)

Posted: 6/22/2018 6:17:34 PM EDT

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American History. And family History.

i didn't know there was a link between Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus and american history, cool

“sons of Cincinnatus, (who) without splendid magnificence or parade, going, with the genius of their just progenitor, Cincinnatus, to the plough; men who served their country without ruining it, men who had served it to the destruction of their private patrimony, their country owing them amazing amounts, for the payment of which no adequate provision was then made.”
-Patrick Henry, 1788

Posted: 6/22/2018 6:22:04 PM EDT

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“sons of Cincinnatus, (who) without splendid magnificence or parade, going, with the genius of their just progenitor, Cincinnatus, to the plough; men who served their country without ruining it, men who had served it to the destruction of their private patrimony, their country owing them amazing amounts, for the payment of which no adequate provision was then made.”
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as a roman history lover i find this info really interesting, thanks

Posted: 6/22/2018 6:23:24 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/22/2018 6:24:20 PM EDT

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In Berlin we used them and they were fracking razor sharp. Here I am at C P Charlie on October 27, 1961. You can see mine on my left side being hidden partially by a my Protective Mask. These blades were so sharp that one f my buddies grabbed his when it was on his rifle at the Queens Birthday parade. He grabbed the blade and it cut a gash the entire length of his palm, and deep. In SE/Asia they were darn useful in heavy follage. However in all the years I saw several B Gys sliced pretty good in Riot Control. I saw one get used in combat to stop an attacker who was close and it stuck pretty deep in his shoulder.
All in all it was mostly used as a knife to slice open ration boxes.

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