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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:03:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:14:38 PM EDT
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snip I get it. I really do. But how about we don't try to get an interesting thread locked, mkay? |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:15:33 PM EDT
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"Chief of sinners though I be....The Lord laid down his life for me" some days it's a real struggle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Believe what you wish. I do not recall any 'If you don't believe you are going to hell" threads. It's always non believers trolling for attention to satisfy their insecurities. I'm not insecure about my belief and I'm a sinner.  "Chief of sinners though I be....The Lord laid down his life for me" some days it's a real struggle. 
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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:17:33 PM EDT
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. Well, to be fair--that IS what took down satan (lol). Don't be silly. When did Satan ever reject belief in the existence of God? 
OK. I'll give this one try and let it go. Both you guys seem to be asserting that: 1) God, if He exists, made me a non-believer, and HE ALONE is the architect of my sensibilities. Correct. 2) HE (and this is important--HE, not my own choices, sensibilities, or unrepentant sins) created in my mind an aversion to/rejection of exploration by faith... Also correct. ...and instead subject God to the test of "proving" that He exists using "rational, repeatable means"--i.e. scientific instrumentation, and rejecting any less definitive or ambiguous proof. Not exactly. For me, proof doesn't necessarily have to be either repeatable or measurable on scientific instruments, but it does have to be unambiguous. 3) And since God will not meet my demands to "prove" that He exists, therefore He has denied ME the same advantages as those who have begun an earnest dialogue with Him grounded in faith--and who ARE offered plentiful proof which THEY find acceptable. I.E. God won't jump through my hoops, therefore He is biased against me. Again, close, but not exactly. I make no demands, and present no hoops to be jumped through. I merely note what I need to accept that God is real. Other than that, yes, God would be denying me the same benefits he's giving to those to whom he did prove his existence. 4) His refusal to submit himself to my intellectual conditions has denied me my right to equal access to the experience of God. See item 3, above. 5) Non-believers are the innocent victims of God's chosen methodology (a non-rational methodology which instead involves love, hope, humility, and trust, i.e. "faith"). Correct. OK. I have to say (and with all due respect) that this argument strikes me as being a tad self-serving. Of course it is. If God is real, it'd be kinda nice to know. (BTW, it's been my observation that when people use the phrase, "with all due respect," they usually think that little or no respect is due.) I notice that you perceive yourself to hold NO responsibility for your lack of a relationship... Correct. ...(which makes sense to your sensibilities, seeing as you do not acknowledge that He even exists). Well, sure. That's because he has not shown me that he does exist. All I have been offered are words in an old book, tales of unexplained events. No tangible, verifiable evidence, let alone proof. It might be worth considering that YOU play a larger role in your non-belief (read: inability to discern the existence of God) than you might perhaps imagine (or be willing to admit). How so? If he's there, and actually wants me to know he exists, he has my contact info.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You guys just can't seem to shake the idea that disbelief is somehow linked with prideful rejection. Getting to be ridiculous. Well, to be fair--that IS what took down satan (lol). Don't be silly. When did Satan ever reject belief in the existence of God?
OK. I'll give this one try and let it go. Both you guys seem to be asserting that: 1) God, if He exists, made me a non-believer, and HE ALONE is the architect of my sensibilities. Correct. 2) HE (and this is important--HE, not my own choices, sensibilities, or unrepentant sins) created in my mind an aversion to/rejection of exploration by faith... Also correct. ...and instead subject God to the test of "proving" that He exists using "rational, repeatable means"--i.e. scientific instrumentation, and rejecting any less definitive or ambiguous proof. Not exactly. For me, proof doesn't necessarily have to be either repeatable or measurable on scientific instruments, but it does have to be unambiguous. 3) And since God will not meet my demands to "prove" that He exists, therefore He has denied ME the same advantages as those who have begun an earnest dialogue with Him grounded in faith--and who ARE offered plentiful proof which THEY find acceptable. I.E. God won't jump through my hoops, therefore He is biased against me. Again, close, but not exactly. I make no demands, and present no hoops to be jumped through. I merely note what I need to accept that God is real. Other than that, yes, God would be denying me the same benefits he's giving to those to whom he did prove his existence. 4) His refusal to submit himself to my intellectual conditions has denied me my right to equal access to the experience of God. See item 3, above. 5) Non-believers are the innocent victims of God's chosen methodology (a non-rational methodology which instead involves love, hope, humility, and trust, i.e. "faith"). Correct. OK. I have to say (and with all due respect) that this argument strikes me as being a tad self-serving. Of course it is. If God is real, it'd be kinda nice to know. (BTW, it's been my observation that when people use the phrase, "with all due respect," they usually think that little or no respect is due.) I notice that you perceive yourself to hold NO responsibility for your lack of a relationship... Correct. ...(which makes sense to your sensibilities, seeing as you do not acknowledge that He even exists). Well, sure. That's because he has not shown me that he does exist. All I have been offered are words in an old book, tales of unexplained events. No tangible, verifiable evidence, let alone proof. It might be worth considering that YOU play a larger role in your non-belief (read: inability to discern the existence of God) than you might perhaps imagine (or be willing to admit). How so? If he's there, and actually wants me to know he exists, he has my contact info. Comments above. |
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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:19:46 PM EDT
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Why are atheist such beta males? Sad little creatures aren't they. You are confused. Betas are followers. Christians are followers. Atheists think for themselves, and set their own path. Following God isn't being a follower... That is funny, isn't it?
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Posted: 5/16/2016 11:20:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:08:29 AM EDT
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Evolution is a ridiculous theory. Actually it is a very solid theory and based on solid evidence. It has been tested many times and is well supported. Please show us where objective unbiased scientific experimentation debunks the theory of evolution. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:33:52 AM EDT
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:46:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I have many objections outside my faith. I'm college educated and am very familiar with what evolution is all about. I've done this before with Fatalerror and I don't feel like it tonight. I'm rather tired after installing hardwood flooring in my house all day today. Believe whatever you want. However, I think if you keep an open mind and do some serious reading you will see that evolution is utter crap. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Evolution is a ridiculous theory. Why? ETA Hang on. Let's keep this civil and simple. Do you have any objections to evolution that aren't based on your religious views? (That isn't a dig, and I won't make fun of you if that is the case.) Yes, I have many objections outside my faith. I'm college educated and am very familiar with what evolution is all about. I've done this before with Fatalerror and I don't feel like it tonight. I'm rather tired after installing hardwood flooring in my house all day today. Believe whatever you want. However, I think if you keep an open mind and do some serious reading you will see that evolution is utter crap. YMMV. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:47:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:50:12 AM EDT
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Don't make outrageous claims with no evidence and people won't argue about it. Applying skepticism evenly across the board is far more beneficial. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:53:28 AM EDT
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Neither are the Christians who are saying that evolution is a ridiculous theory and that they know this by feelings (aka, faith). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:56:23 AM EDT
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Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! You have a safe space in the religious forum, no one will go in there and stir up shit. In GD however, if you say stupid things, you are going to get called on them. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well perhaps you evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! My first post in this thread answered the hypothetical question that was asked. I didn't side track it. Its not my fault christians couldn't answer the hypothetical question and rather turned it into a "christian thread." Its not my fault that other atheists were here saying "religion is stupid" rather than answering the question. Perhaps Christians will pray enough that they'll actually follow christs's word and be humble. For now you Christians can't shut up and start your own treads of discussion. You all just sit around and wait for a non-christian thread and then try to take it over and turn it into a "evolution vs christianity" thread by specifically ignoring the questions that were asked in the OP, and rather, launching into how they are right and the hypothetical is stupid. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:40:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:50:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryExplains the absurdity in a nutshell. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 11:23:52 AM EDT
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You have a safe space in the religious forum, no one will go in there and stir up shit. In GD however, if you say stupid things, you are going to get called on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! You have a safe space in the religious forum, no one will go in there and stir up shit. In GD however, if you say stupid things, you are going to get called on them. Then they'd have to feed on each other, as the religious do when there are no non-religious to convert or mock. Catholic vs. Protestant, pausing long enough to gang up on the Jew, Islam seemingly against EVERYONE... Echo chambers aren't as much fun, I guess. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 5:41:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The plural of atheist is atheists. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 6:18:21 PM EDT
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No. We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. Well perhaps you'll evolve into someone who doesn't give a damn what someone else believes. For now you atheist can't shut up and start you're own threads of discussion. You all sit around and wait for a christian thread to originate - then attack! We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. As long as no one is counting on my knees for anything, I'm in.. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 7:26:17 PM EDT
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No. We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Dude, you can't just tell them outright. They might freak out when they realize we want to... *dramatic pause* ERADICATE THEIR RELIGION! |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 7:36:33 PM EDT
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Dude, you can't just tell them outright. They might freak out when they realize we want to... *dramatic pause* ERADICATE THEIR RELIGION! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Dude, you can't just tell them outright. They might freak out when they realize we want to... *dramatic pause* ERADICATE THEIR RELIGION! ERADICATE ALL RELIGION! |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 7:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, you can't just tell them outright. They might freak out when they realize we want to... *dramatic pause* ERADICATE THEIR RELIGION! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. We've assembled into a massive super organism. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Dude, you can't just tell them outright. They might freak out when they realize we want to... *dramatic pause* ERADICATE THEIR RELIGION!  |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 7:46:47 PM EDT
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Nobody expects the atheist inquisition.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:29:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody expects the atheist inquisition.  |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:36:32 PM EDT
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Hell, even I didn't expect this direction of the thread.
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ERADICATE ALL THE EXPECTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS! ETA And then we'll have tea and biscuits. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:44:48 PM EDT
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Neither are the Christians who are saying that evolution is a ridiculous theory and that they know this by feelings (aka, faith). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 8:56:34 PM EDT
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There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. 
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:04:22 PM EDT
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There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. you say that in, literally, every single thread that has anything remotely to do with religion...and yet here you are...again...still. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:04:26 PM EDT
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There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Not really. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:08:16 PM EDT
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I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. you say that in, literally, every single thread that has anything remotely to do with religion...and yet here you are...again...still. Did I present any information? Did I present evidence? Did I post links discrediting evolution? Reading comprehension is key. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:09:37 PM EDT
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Only if all of you mocking God new what you were in for
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:17:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ERADICATE ALL THE EXPECTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS! ETA And then we'll have tea and biscuits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nobody expects the atheist inquisition. ERADICATE ALL THE EXPECTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS! ETA And then we'll have tea and biscuits. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:19:03 PM EDT
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Only if all of you mocking God new what you were in for . Repent and change your ways now while you still can.I don't want to be a Muslim. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only if all of you mocking God new what you were in for . Repent and change your ways now while you still can. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Presenting what information that is readily available on the internet? Long debunked creationist talking points? Good call. We've seen them, and the suck, so anything you'd copy and past would be shown to be BS. No, you don't. You believe it, and you think it definitely is the truth, but that doesn't mean you are right. You do not know any more than I do. To think otherwise is just kidding yourself. Its funny that Christians always accuse atheists of being arrogant and lacking humility when they are actually the ones making absolute statements about what is or isn't true about the universe. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 9:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this forum presenting information that is readily available on the internet. You will ignore it or counter with the evolutionary viewpoint. We've already done this before. Believe whatever you want. I know God created the Universe and made man in His image. Yeah, no. I can't speak for everyone, but many, including myself, have spent a considerable amount of time researching the modern theory of evolution, and have arrived at the well-considered conclusion it's not just the best explanation, it's an extremely well supported theory, and given this and the fact that a large number of other very sound theories depend on it, there is essentially no possibility that its major premises will ever be disproved. This is just ludicrous. Perhaps you'd like to tell the Christians who have stated here that they accept that the modern theory of evolution is largely correct, that they hate God. I can't blame you for not wanting to debate the evidence; if I believed as you do, I wouldn't want to either. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 10:04:33 PM EDT
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Only if all of you mocking God new what you were in for . Repent and change your ways now while you still can.I am not concerned one bit. I am perfectly fine with dying, not to soon but, when I die, I will die. Nothing more. Your religious beliefs are yours, using them to coerce or threaten an atheist will just get you laughed at. |
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Posted: 5/17/2016 10:14:52 PM EDT
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If you believe in 12.5% of the bible....you can consider yourself an eight theist.......
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Posted: 5/17/2016 10:19:53 PM EDT
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Christians seem to think that atheists hate god. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Posted: 5/17/2016 10:20:40 PM EDT
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If you believe in 12.5% of the bible....you can consider yourself an eight theist....... 
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Posted: 5/17/2016 10:47:14 PM EDT
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Christians seem to think that atheists hate god. Nothing could be further from the truth. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle believed in fairies. Now I don't believe fairies exist, but I don't hate fairies. Get it? Some do. I support freedom of religion or no religion at all. Faith cannot be forced by man. Believe whatever you want and so will I. I try to keep these discussions respectful. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 1:04:35 AM EDT
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ERADICATE ALL THE EXPECTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS! ETA And then we'll have tea and biscuits. Hell, why not? |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 1:14:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. There are only a miniscule number of actual scientists in the field who believe in Creation/ID. I'm a Christian and hold no hatred towards God, and I find the evidence for evolution to be compelling. It is the best explanation we have. Genesis is allegorical and expecting it to be a history book is just foolish. I have zero issues reconciling my belief in God with the knowledge science has accumulated about our world. Anyone who does doesn't have much faith to begin with. I'll let you get back to fighting to the good fight against those evil atheists, just wanted to thank you for reinforcing the negative stereotypes about Christians. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 1:54:32 AM EDT
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There are only a miniscule number of actual scientists in the field who believe in Creation/ID. I'm a Christian and hold no hatred towards God, and I find the evidence for evolution to be compelling. It is the best explanation we have. Genesis is allegorical and expecting it to be a history book is just foolish. I have zero issues reconciling my belief in God with the knowledge science has accumulated about our world. Anyone who does doesn't have much faith to begin with. I'll let you get back to fighting to the good fight against those evil atheists, just wanted to thank you for reinforcing the negative stereotypes about Christians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are many reasons why evolution is ridiculous other than reasoning based on faith. There are many scientists who agree with creation. You and others are blinded by your zeal for the subject and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative of indifference or hate towards God. There are only a miniscule number of actual scientists in the field who believe in Creation/ID. I'm a Christian and hold no hatred towards God, and I find the evidence for evolution to be compelling. It is the best explanation we have. Genesis is allegorical and expecting it to be a history book is just foolish. I have zero issues reconciling my belief in God with the knowledge science has accumulated about our world. Anyone who does doesn't have much faith to begin with. I'll let you get back to fighting to the good fight against those evil atheists, just wanted to thank you for reinforcing the negative stereotypes about Christians. burncream.jpg |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 2:58:40 AM EDT
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Genesis is allegorical... Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. |
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Posted: 5/18/2016 3:39:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Genesis is allegorical... Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. And I don't see anything that says it is meant to be taken as literal history. At one time, the vast majority of Christians believed the earth was the center of the universe. They used scripture like Joshua 10:12-13 and 1 Chronicles 16:30 to show that geocentrism was fact. Some would have defended that belief and said "I don't see anything in the Bible that says those verses are metaphorical" and there really isn't. That doesn't change the fact that the earth does indeed revolved around the sun. Either those verses are in error or are literal interpretation of those verses are in error. So is the Bible wrong or is the literal interpretation of those verses wrong? The natural world is as much God's word as the Bible. When knowledge contradicts belief, then our belief is in error. As our knowledge has increased (and our social mores have changed) our interpretation of the Bible has changed. There are always those slow to change. Just as there are no longer any Christians defending geocentrism, in 100 years there won't be any defending a literal Genesis either. eta: page from a Luther Bible  |
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Posted: 5/19/2016 2:24:07 PM EDT
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And I don't see anything that says it is meant to be taken as literal history. At one time, the vast majority of Christians believed the earth was the center of the universe. They used scripture like Joshua 10:12-13 and 1 Chronicles 16:30 to show that geocentrism was fact. Some would have defended that belief and said "I don't see anything in the Bible that says those verses are metaphorical" and there really isn't. That doesn't change the fact that the earth does indeed revolved around the sun. Either those verses are in error or are literal interpretation of those verses are in error. So is the Bible wrong or is the literal interpretation of those verses wrong? The natural world is as much God's word as the Bible. When knowledge contradicts belief, then our belief is in error. As our knowledge has increased (and our social mores have changed) our interpretation of the Bible has changed. There are always those slow to change. Just as there are no longer any Christians defending geocentrism, in 100 years there won't be any defending a literal Genesis either. eta: page from a Luther Bible https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Geocentrism.gif/403px-Geocentrism.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Genesis is allegorical... Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. And I don't see anything that says it is meant to be taken as literal history. At one time, the vast majority of Christians believed the earth was the center of the universe. They used scripture like Joshua 10:12-13 and 1 Chronicles 16:30 to show that geocentrism was fact. Some would have defended that belief and said "I don't see anything in the Bible that says those verses are metaphorical" and there really isn't. That doesn't change the fact that the earth does indeed revolved around the sun. Either those verses are in error or are literal interpretation of those verses are in error. So is the Bible wrong or is the literal interpretation of those verses wrong? The natural world is as much God's word as the Bible. When knowledge contradicts belief, then our belief is in error. As our knowledge has increased (and our social mores have changed) our interpretation of the Bible has changed. There are always those slow to change. Just as there are no longer any Christians defending geocentrism, in 100 years there won't be any defending a literal Genesis either. eta: page from a Luther Bible https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Geocentrism.gif/403px-Geocentrism.gif There actually is a small group of geocentrists who are also traditional Catholics. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
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Posted: 5/19/2016 2:39:07 PM EDT
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Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Genesis is allegorical... Just curious. What is your basis for that statement? I didn't see anything in the Bible that says Genesis is not meant to be literal. Something about tittles and jots at the end of the book, isn't it? Either it's all true or none of it is true, or wore to that effect. |
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Posted: 5/19/2016 2:52:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither are the Christians who are saying that evolution is a ridiculous theory and that they know this by feelings (aka, faith). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the Christians here have given this thread up to prayer , the atheist are feeling bold and confident in their unbelief. They aren't the most humble lot I've ever seen. |
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Posted: 5/19/2016 2:55:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There actually is a small group of geocentrists who are also traditional Catholics. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Really? Good lord. Ok I'll amend my statement and in 100 years only a tiny minority of Christians will still believe in a literal Genesis. |
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