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Posted: 8/13/2018 8:20:26 PM EDT
so crude and filthy "moan"

1977 Pontiac Phoenix: Regular Car Reviews
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Nope
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FPNI
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Late 70’s, the era of the 165hp muscle car.
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I had a Skylark that looked about the same .

Yeah cars from that era were shitty , but I have a soft spot for um as they were what I could afford to buy and jack with back in my teens .
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no care
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60s were ok.

From then, nearly everything till like the late 2000s should be forgotten
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I drove one of these until about 2004.  Nice vinyl roof.  It was a 301 not a 350.  1979 Buick LeSabre 4-door.  Very plush inside.

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My 1975 280 Z put out as much HP as most USA cruisers. And it did it without needing a catalytic converter.
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LSx everything.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 8:38:55 PM EDT
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Late 70s?!?

You mean late 60s, early 70s!
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no! fuck that shit! leanburn or death!
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 8:49:28 PM EDT
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I'll always have a soft spot for late '70's G-bodies.  In the late 80's, my high school parking lot was jam packed with Montes, Cutlasses, Malibus, and Regals.  My first car in 1990 was a $400 79 Monte Carlo.  It was a slug.  But, it was MY slug.
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Gross
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This thread needs more Pantera.

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Um yeah, I gotta pass on it.
That era was the Dark Times
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:00:42 PM EDT
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Although that^ is an extremely rare exception.
Still gutless, as compared to its ancestors
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this thing was sexy as hell when it came out... when I was a little kid we used to have a local Chevy dealer that had a corner show window with a rotating floor(think lazy susan)... every year they'd debut the new corvette on that thing... they'd have the curtains drawn for a week or two before the reveal... was so exciting to drive buy and check out the new Vette in the window..



there were many of these rolling back in the day too... I thought they were pretty cool when I was a kid.. having a V-12 made it automatically cool..
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:01:58 PM EDT
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so crude and filthy "moan"

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You sure you don't drink?
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:02:28 PM EDT
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I lived in the late 70’s. The cars need to die in a fire.

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this thing was sexy as hell when it came out... when I was a little kid we used to have a local Chevy dealer that had a corner show window with a rotating floor(think lazy susan)... every year they'd debut the new corvette on that thing... they'd have the curtains drawn for a week or two before the reveal... was so exciting to drive buy and check out the new Vette in the window..

http://www.kwecars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/V12-Le-Mans-edition.png

there were many of these rolling back in the day too... I thought they were pretty cool when I was a kid.. having a V-12 made it automatically cool..
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Oh (some of) the styling was cool.
They just couldn’t get out of their own way

IIRC that Corvette was making 180-ground-pounding horsepower
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:03:19 PM EDT
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Nothing good was happening in Detroit in the mid to late 70's.  Not one single thing.

Here's an interview with a Chrysler powertrain engineer from the era, where he said that innovation had pretty much stalled and 110% of their efforts were directed towards emissions compliance.  https://www.allpar.com/corporate/bios/hagenbuch-interview.html


We have the slant 6 in the late 1950s and the LA series V-8s shortly thereafter, then we have a long delay before we hit the 2.2. What was going on in between?

Emissions. Really, honest to God, emissions. Nobody cared about performance, the performance got lower and lower [after 1971] until there weren't any durability problems to worry about. Drivability was of utmost interest and was a total flop. We didn't have drivable cars that passed emissions, I don't think anybody else did either. There was just nothing going on, it was all emissions.
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OK, so no innovation... what about quality?  This commercial was a staple of Chicago television for decades.  The 1973 Caprice was only 12 years old when this was filmed.  Living in suburban Chicago at the time and seeing these cars on the road, this wasn't far from typical.  What does a typical 12 year old car look like today?

Victory Auto Wreckers - "Car Door Mishap" (Commercial, 1992)
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:04:14 PM EDT
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78 and up, 2 door GM G bodies are where it's at.
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'79 Malibu is legit, even today.



'79 was also the first year of the Fox Mustang.



Both could be modded into legit muscle cars, even in those weak ass days.
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'79 Malibu is legit, even today.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015/20/08/15490280_large.jpg

'79 was also the first year of the Fox Mustang.

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/gallery/mustang-c3/1980-ford-mustang-302-cubiv.jpg

Both could be modded into legit muscle cars, even in those weak ass days.
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1979 was the Indy 500 Pace Car... my friends mom had one... lotta stickers and stuff.
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1979 was the Indy 500 Pace Car... my friends mom had one... lotta stickers and stuff.
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'79 Malibu is legit, even today.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015/20/08/15490280_large.jpg

'79 was also the first year of the Fox Mustang.

http://www.amcarguide.com/wp-content/gallery/mustang-c3/1980-ford-mustang-302-cubiv.jpg

Both could be modded into legit muscle cars, even in those weak ass days.
http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/55631271+w650+h433+re0+cr1+ar0+st0/1979-ford-indy-pace-car-front-side-view.jpg

1979 was the Indy 500 Pace Car... my friends mom had one... lotta stickers and stuff.
Best part is the Fox Body was relatively unchanged(fi in 86, just appearance otherwise) from '79 to '93.
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You're not wrong.

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Trucks were good, too.





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You damn right, and I despise GM.  I would absolutely own and drive a 79 Malibu w/a built 350, it was one of the last legit body on frame 2d rwd muscle cars.
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I hated these cars as a kid. They were everywhere in the 80's. My grandma even drove a 2 door one. They are sexy as hell... now

Late 70's malibu

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could you imagine if I did?

@m35ben
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I lived in the late 70’s. The cars need to die in a fire.

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I actually think one of those done up as a King Cobra (either black/gold or blue/white) and put the drive train from a new Ecoboost Mustang in it and modern suspension under it it would be hella fun to autocross....
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Late 70's Trans Ams clean up nice too.

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Nothing good was happening in Detroit in the mid to late 70's.  Not one single thing.

Here's an interview with a Chrysler powertrain engineer from the era, where he said that innovation had pretty much stalled and 110% of their efforts were directed towards emissions compliance.  https://www.allpar.com/corporate/bios/hagenbuch-interview.html

OK, so no innovation... what about quality?  This commercial was a staple of Chicago television for decades.  The 1973 Caprice was only 12 years old when this was filmed.  Living in suburban Chicago at the time and seeing these cars on the road, this wasn't far from typical.  What does a typical 12 year old car look like today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fM5K5jK840
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and yet thats why i love them
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Well, kinda.
I had an early-80s K5.  With the factory smog motor and tune, I could almost out-walk that thing
Of course, it didn’t lack motivation for very long once I got my hands on it
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could you imagine if I did?

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Well your taste in cars might improve.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:36:11 PM EDT
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However I do miss leaded fuel (cheaper than $12/gal)
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Gross.
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I loved my '75 Power Wagon, sonofabitch would go anywhere.

You could also open up the doors and wash the mud out of the cab with a garden hose and not hurt anything.
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@m35ben

When did OBD-I show up?  Late-70s?
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I like my 1977

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Ok, there’s one exception.
That car is sweet
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This thread doesn’t need anymore fail beyond the title.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:45:51 PM EDT
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77.

Pontiac Trans Am, Chevrolet Camaro for fun; Oldsmobile Cutlass, Pontiac Bonneville, Buick Riviera,  Chrysler Newport, Ford Thunderbird, Lincoln Continental for full size.
I'd take the Ford or Chevy pickup or Bronco or Blazer too.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:49:20 PM EDT
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Drove one of these in high school for a while. A couple of kids teased me ....till they raced me.



I also had a 79 Malibu with a 350 4bl. It wasn't "fast", but was pretty damn fun to drive.
Link Posted: 8/13/2018 9:51:12 PM EDT
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Putting the finishing touches on a mild restoration on this Lemans.
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Pairs nicely with my trans am pace car.
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I loved my 78, but the damn gold would fade on those headlight inserts if they were in the sun for any extended period of time.
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