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Posted: 8/17/2018 12:59:30 PM EDT
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I will say the 301 in my GP always started, always ran, I never really did anything to it, I remember a water pump, and a leaking front seal I changed the same time. But there were so many things that were goofy on those things. Intake for one, not dual plane like every other 4brl Pontiac. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The 301 was a sad engine for sure, but those cars were lightened up compared to the earlier models. 3200 lbs maybe but definitely not 4k. The numerically low axle ratio was likely more to blame. A lot of people would yank the 301 and install a 400 in it's place. This is the way those cars should have been built to start, but sadly 400 production stopped the year before. So it ended up being more of a do-it-yourself option.  
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_301_Turbo 
Honestly, if Pontiac wanted a smaller V8, they could have just gone back to putting the 326 in everything. It would have worked out so much better. But there were so many things that were goofy on those things. Intake for one, not dual plane like every other 4brl Pontiac.  Attached FileWhy would they do this? I have no idea.
I've owned two 301's. Hell, I own one right now (in a parts car) but I have no intention of ever using it for anything. They were basic transportation engines. If you expected more than that, or compared them to earlier true Pontiac engines, they didn't hold up. Eta: Here's a proper Pontiac engine, since I'm on top of pg 4 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 12:59:49 PM EDT
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These Fiat X19's were pretty cool: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167780/fiat_x19-642959.JPG Between my Army buds we had a X19, a TR7and a 280Z [mine] Guess which one actually ran and which ones were broken most of the time and sitting? |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 1:03:05 PM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLqcxuZWcAAeSRE.jpg Funny story, when Ford introduced the Pinto in Brazil it flopped. "Pinto" is portuguese slang for "small penis".
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The absolute worst era for quality, damn near rivaling the build quality of a Yugo. Door and deck lid gaps on everything were whacked straight out of the factory. I don't think it was possible to line that shit up, hell you can see it in these pics. The shit would practically rust in the showroom. The drunks building them would leave bottles in the body panels as if the shit didn't rattle enough already. Pretty much no one gave a shit. Thinly reason people bought them is they couldn't bring themselves to buy an import. Nice thing about the era is a lot of the 60's stuff still fit and they were simple to work on. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 1:05:38 PM EDT
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The cars from that era were pretty crappy from the factory, but they were pretty simple to service and it wasn't hard to coax more HP from a V8, I6, or even a turbo 4. The trucks of the era were generally pretty decent. The factory engines also lacked in power, but they made enough torque to do "truck stuff". I'll always have a soft spot for 66-96 Ford I-beam trucks.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 1:31:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/17/2018 10:12:43 PM EDT
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This thread needs crushed along with all the cars in it.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 10:38:13 PM EDT
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These Fiat X19's were pretty cool: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/167780/fiat_x19-642959.JPG 80s , an old man in a F150 backed into it , up it's hood and put his rear tires through the windshield. |
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