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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:46:18 PM EDT
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video, the explosion is at 1:11

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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:51:51 PM EDT
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looks like the second stage didn't fall off until almost 10 seconds after the initial explosion, that thing was built pretty damn sturdy
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:52:58 PM EDT
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Sad for SpaceX, but fuck Facebook.
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:53:19 PM EDT
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Most impressive..



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:58:37 PM EDT
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Conspiracy?
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 1:59:59 PM EDT
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Hard to tell for sure but it looks like that initiated external to the rocket.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:01:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:05:46 PM EDT
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Looking at video and scrubbing back and forth, it looks almost like it's between the craft and the umbilical structure.

Definitely not near the 1st stage.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:06:40 PM EDT
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Clearly the bird had a small laser attached to its leg as it flew by.



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:07:58 PM EDT
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Marshmallows anyone?

Big boom.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:10:47 PM EDT
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Someone forgot to attach the grounding strap.....

 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:12:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:15:18 PM EDT
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Definitely a RUD.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Conspiracy nuts are going to be calling that a bomb attack...no doubt about it.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:16:39 PM EDT
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More like a DUD.  Thing didn't even take off.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:18:53 PM EDT
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Sure looks like it.  I guess it's better than it being a problem with the the Falcon itself.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:19:05 PM EDT
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Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite:




Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally
ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch
insurance.

















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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:19:47 PM EDT
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It's funny because it wasn't supposed to explode.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:19:56 PM EDT
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That's what I thought I saw.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:22:01 PM EDT
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Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite:





Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance.
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There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss.  Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:22:40 PM EDT
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I can see a little flare half way up the rocket past the first stage about 20sec before the front fell off. It's on the left side of the rocket.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:29:42 PM EDT
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There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss.  Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print.
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Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance.














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There will be a lot of finger pointing trying to decide who's insurance will cover that loss.  Some people are really going to wish they read all of the fine print.


only people getting money out of this once the dust will probably be the lawyers
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:33:44 PM EDT
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Spacecom, the owner of the satellite onboard today's Falcon 9; are down
9% on their stock exchange today; and continuing to fall.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:35:05 PM EDT
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So it was an Israeli made satellite?  


Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:37:41 PM EDT
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Looking at video and scrubbing back and forth, it looks almost like it's between the craft and the umbilical structure.

Definitely not near the 1st stage.



That's what I thought I saw.



Looks like whatever hose/fueling/electrical/all of the between the 2nd stage/payload just popped and blew.  Of course, it could be a bad grounding wire, something disconnected early, pump or valve issues, etc.  I'm sure they already had cameras pointing exactly at that spot and will be able to determine what failed and the mode of failure.

That first explosion causes a second and more fuel is added to the fire and it expands both down and out with rapidly rising gasses.  Eventually either from heat or the shock wave the vehicle structure fails releasing all of the fuel and that's the big boom which is usually bigger than the 1st boom.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:38:33 PM EDT
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That's some Global Warming shit right there
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:43:16 PM EDT
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As for insurance, I would be surprised if it is not covered for issues other than just launch.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:43:27 PM EDT
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Big bada boom.

 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:44:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, report them to the EPA!  



EPA says Bubba can't use his wood stove, but Elon Musk can fire up all the satellites he wants.  



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:53:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 2:56:51 PM EDT
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You may be right when it comes to the higher ups and press releases. But I live with these guys, RUD is a known and used term with folks at the space coast.
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I've heard it in the Kerbal Space Program community, too.

As long as NASA and SpaceX don't start joking about lithobraking, all is well.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:08:54 PM EDT
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[ granny from MARS ATTACKS ] " hahahha...they blew up facebook !!!"
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:09:04 PM EDT
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[ granny from MARS ATTACKS ] " hahahha...they blew up facebook !!!"
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:21:10 PM EDT
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You can see something fly across the screen in the lower half of the screen then shortly after something fly across higher in the screen right before the explosions.....Probably a coincidence but still.....

Start at 1 minute.

Looking at it a few more times you can see multiple streaks across the screen....I'd guess bugs.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:22:20 PM EDT
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Yes, it is for re-use. Today's launch was its first re-use.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:26:08 PM EDT
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What is this going to do about Man-Rating the Falcon ?
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:26:57 PM EDT
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Isn't this a re-use? If so, that really sucks. Even more, I mean.

Yes, it is for re-use. Today's launch was its first re-use.


Well they certainly are not going to use that one again.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:28:47 PM EDT
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Yes, it is for re-use. Today's launch was its first re-use.


Not according to other posts I made earlier.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:30:29 PM EDT
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I would imagine that depends on the result of the root cause investigation.
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:30:51 PM EDT
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Did anyone else cringe when the payload slowly keeled over and did its death dive?

Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:33:58 PM EDT
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I can see a little flare half way up the rocket past the first stage about 20sec before the front fell off. It's on the left side of the rocket.
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... No, no you can't. STFU!
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:37:39 PM EDT
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It was supposed to launch Facebooks satellite Sunday. hopefully the satellite was not aboard. I am guessing it was not.




Hopefully it was, fuck zuckerberg
lol, this





Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:37:47 PM EDT
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You can see something fly across the screen in the lower half of the screen then shortly after something fly across higher in the screen right before the explosions.....Probably a coincidence but still.....



Start at 1 minute.



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I expected the explosion to start in the bottom.  But it looks like it started in the "corona of the glans" area on the right.  

Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:39:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:39:47 PM EDT
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Lol.  You get me everytime!  
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:43:56 PM EDT
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Did anyone else cringe when the payload slowly keeled over and did its death dive?



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Nope. Rockets pollute the air. I'm calling the EPA and reporting them.



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:47:41 PM EDT
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I would like to point out "THE STEEL DID NOT MELT."  
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:48:11 PM EDT
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This blows.

On the bright side, like others have said it looks like the explosion initiated from the strongback/2nd stage interface. If that's the case it could be that this wasn't a flaw with the actual rocket which would be good thing. Either way SpaceX is going to be looking at some serious delays even just rebuilding the pad. Their launch book was already seriously crowded for this year, not to mention development and flight of Falcon Heavy and Dragon 2. If it's not a vehicle issue they could potentially fly from SLC 39 as I understand it can support both F9 and FH. Any way you spin it though, this is a serious setback
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:50:22 PM EDT
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Hopefully it was, fuck zuckerberg
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It was supposed to launch Facebooks satellite Sunday. hopefully the satellite was not aboard. I am guessing it was not.


Hopefully it was, fuck zuckerberg


This
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 3:52:02 PM EDT
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