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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:19:42 AM EST
UPDATE: SSGs Dan and Alexa are now members here and posting in this thread.
 Two Virginians run a local county-approved militia, one that has made overt threats against the government. They also both happen to be top-performing noncommissioned officers in the Virginia Army National Guard, serving the very government one of them has repeatedly warned is drifting toward tyranny. It's a seemingly contradictory set of roles that likely runs afoul of new Army rules that explicitly prohibit anti-government behavior -- for soldiers both on active duty and in the Guard. Staff Sgts. Daniel Abbott and Alexandra Griffeth jointly run the Campbell County Militia, which operates in the rural surroundings of Lynchburg, Virginia, with Abbott serving as the militia's commander and having ties to other similar groups in the region.  Updated archive link because f*ck Military News.com. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:21:44 AM EST
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Looks like he's serious not the usual 350lb + militia member
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:23:08 AM EST
[#2]
good
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:23:17 AM EST
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good.jpeg
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:25:17 AM EST
[#4]
Oath to Constitution > Chain of Command
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:28:50 AM EST
[#5]
Good.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:31:52 AM EST
[#6]
I suspect as long as the government does not act tyrannical, there shouldnt be any reason for concern.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:33:02 AM EST
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The author references "overt threats" a few times, but fails to enumerate them. What threats?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:33:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like he's serious not the usual 350lb + militia member |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:36:05 AM EST
[#9]
Username?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:36:54 AM EST
[#10]
I remember seeing an ad for the national guard at a movie theatre around 2005-2008 claiming that the militia/minute men who rose up to fight a tyrannical government during the Revolutionary War were actually the National guard (despite the National Guard not existing for another 130+ years). I guess resisting a tyrannical govt back then was….different. Anyways until they take action against a duly elected and constitutionally lawful government, I don’t see the conflict.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:38:14 AM EST
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They got this part right.
"Our own government is the greatest threat to our safety and security," |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:39:12 AM EST
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BACKATBRAGG.....
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:39:15 AM EST
[#13]
Someone's going to say that he's secretly FBI
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:40:01 AM EST
[#14]
Found this on his facebook page. His head is certainly in the right place.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:40:41 AM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:43:23 AM EST
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That propaganda piece was painful to read. Good for him, sounds like a soldier who understands his duty.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:43:49 AM EST
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If this is her, she looks like a shooter.
https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/3140536/army-guard-air-force-compete-in-marksmanship-in-kenya/ |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:44:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like he's serious not the usual 350lb + militia member So serious he doesn't even know how to correctly apply warpaint. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:45:14 AM EST
[#19]
Well when the government is acting against the government we're supposed to have....
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:46:13 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That propaganda piece was painful to read. Good for him, sounds like a soldier who understands his duty. I liked the part at the end, about how groups that perform community service are just covering for their racist racism. Did you know doing a canned food drive makes your group the same as the KKK, because they also did charitable things? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:46:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this is her, she looks like a shooter. https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/3140536/army-guard-air-force-compete-in-marksmanship-in-kenya/ Looks like she matches the person on facebook. She only has a few photos posted there but one of them is of her teaching her young son pistolcraft. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:46:36 AM EST
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We’re supposed to catch the vapors over this? Why? I want my infantrymen to be thinkers and not merely
Order followers. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:48:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re supposed to catch the vapors over this? Why? I want my infantrymen to be thinkers and not merely Order followers. I suspect that military.com doesn't. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:50:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect that military.com doesn't. Military.com and Army Times are propaganda no different from Pravda. No one will ever change my mind on that. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:52:30 AM EST
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That article reads like a leftist hit piece. "The group appears to be all white" and calling complaints about a tyrannical government and violation of the law and saying how they could run off with reserve equipment and weapons. Also military.com watched a bunch of videos looking for evidence against them.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:54:52 AM EST
[#26]
 From the author's webpage looks like his "gig" is "finding extremism" |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:54:52 AM EST
[#27]
What were the actual 'threats'? (Yeah, I know... there weren't any).
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:01:18 AM EST
[#28]
Good. Needs to be more of them.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:04:00 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like he's serious not the usual 350lb + militia member |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:08:06 AM EST
[#30]
@panzersergeant ... when you see articles like this, you should archive them and then post the archive link instead of the actual website's link, thereby limiting the traffic and potential ad revenue to their website...because fuck em.
Here's the link, please update OP. Archive link because fuck em |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:09:12 AM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:12:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he was serious, he would have kept his mouth shut. Yes, because that's been working great. We've been wildly successful with what we've been doing so far 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:15:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The author references "overt threats" a few times, but fails to enumerate them. What threats? The whole article is innuendo without any specific examples. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:16:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @panzersergeant ... when you see articles like this, you should archive them and then post the archive link instead of the actual website's link, thereby limiting the traffic and potential ad revenue to their website...because fuck em. Here's the link, please update OP. Archive link because fuck em Good idea. I updated OP using your link.  I had no idea you could do this.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:17:41 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect as long as the government does not act tyrannical, there shouldnt be any reason for concern. Boom |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:17:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect as long as the government does not act tyrannical, there shouldnt be any reason for concern. Pretty much that. They took an oath to protect the constitution, not to “just follow orders”, despite whatever Army regulations have to say about it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:19:29 AM EST
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????
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:20:29 AM EST
[#38]
Sounds like they're in the right spot.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:20:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good idea. I updated OP using your link. I had no idea you could do this. The fight is on all fronts. All of them. Glad to give someone another weapon for the fight. 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:24:51 AM EST
[#40]
Well, looks like OP got ahead of me. So I'll go ahead and give my take.
Dan is one of my good friends, and yes, I'm a member of that militia. I know some peeps here sneer at the idea of the militia, which is kind of...contradictory since the word (and concept) is central to the clause in the Constitution that this entire site centers on. Weird. We've been doing it (mostly) right in VA. CCM's model is to be intentionally forward facing because the problem with secret squirrel shit is that, well, it's secret. It's not exactly the best way to inspire a movement. Yes, that carries risks. I sure am glad our Founding Fathers weren't as risk averse as so many of my fellow countrymen today. Our training program is top notch--monthly corporate FTX's, often with breakout/individual skillset building sessions and seminars in between, like basic radio operation and even stuff like legal use of force, which is a required class for everyone in the militia. Everything is taught by actual SME's, not dudes who saw a Youtube video and think they can teach react to contact (though if that's all you have to work with, it's absolutely better than not training at all). We are blessed with ridiculous training resources. If they're coming after guys like Dan, be concerned. Be very fucking concerned. In the past, they've picked easy targets that are painful to defend, like neo-Nazi's or Patriot front dipshits stealing weapons from armories. This journalist is trying to destroy a good family. Dan and Alex are some of the highest quality individuals in this nation. Much of the activism in Virginia--a huge part of whatever success we've enjoyed the past 4 years in the 2A movement in this state--is due to their efforts. They are well known (and, most importantly, liked) by many in the Guard, our state legislature, and even in congress. I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:29:22 AM EST
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Did whiskers the cat make the news?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:32:05 AM EST
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God bless them. I wouldn't depend upon some members of this board.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:32:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. Be more specific. Also - someone let me borrow a strand of pearls so I can participate in the pearl-clutching over this.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:33:10 AM EST
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The publication found a pattern of Abbott issuing overt threats against the federal government and making it clear that his militia's mission is to potentially wage war. "Our own government is the greatest threat to our safety and security," Abbott said at one event earlier this year. "Power is akin to force. I would argue there are only two [forces] man has direct access to. One of those is violence … [and] the threat of violence." That's a "Threat"? Government seems super desperate for a boogie man right now. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:34:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole article is innuendo without any specific examples. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The author references "overt threats" a few times, but fails to enumerate them. What threats? The whole article is innuendo without any specific examples. The guardsmen should sue his ass. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:37:04 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BACKATBRAGG..... sensiblechuckle.gif |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:39:15 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, looks like OP got ahead of me. So I'll go ahead and give my take. Dan is one of my good friends, and yes, I'm a member of that militia. I know some peeps here sneer at the idea of the militia, which is kind of...contradictory since the word (and concept) is central to the clause in the Constitution that this entire site centers on. Weird. We've been doing it (mostly) right in VA. CCM's model is to be intentionally forward facing because the problem with secret squirrel shit is that, well, it's secret. It's not exactly the best way to inspire a movement. Yes, that carries risks. I sure am glad our Founding Fathers weren't as risk averse as so many of my fellow countrymen today. If they're coming after guys like Dan, be concerned. Be very fucking concerned. In the past, they've picked easy targets that are painful to defend, like neo-Nazi's or Patriot front dipshits stealing weapons from armories. This journalist is trying to destroy a good family. Dan and Alex are some of the highest quality individuals in this nation. Much of the activism in Virginia--a huge part of whatever success we've enjoyed the past 4 years in the 2A movement in this state--is due to their efforts. They are well known (and, most importantly, liked) by many in the Guard, our state legislature, and even in congress. I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. Sending prayers. Being organized is a bulwark against tyranny, moreso than any weapon. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:42:00 AM EST
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I wish my AO had a unit like that around.
I'd join in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:46:16 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, looks like OP got ahead of me. So I'll go ahead and give my take. Dan is one of my good friends, and yes, I'm a member of that militia. I know some peeps here sneer at the idea of the militia, which is kind of...contradictory since the word (and concept) is central to the clause in the Constitution that this entire site centers on. Weird. We've been doing it (mostly) right in VA. CCM's model is to be intentionally forward facing because the problem with secret squirrel shit is that, well, it's secret. It's not exactly the best way to inspire a movement. Yes, that carries risks. I sure am glad our Founding Fathers weren't as risk averse as so many of my fellow countrymen today. If they're coming after guys like Dan, be concerned. Be very fucking concerned. In the past, they've picked easy targets that are painful to defend, like neo-Nazi's or Patriot front dipshits stealing weapons from armories. This journalist is trying to destroy a good family. Dan and Alex are some of the highest quality individuals in this nation. Much of the activism in Virginia--a huge part of whatever success we've enjoyed the past 4 years in the 2A movement in this state--is due to their efforts. They are well known (and, most importantly, liked) by many in the Guard, our state legislature, and even in congress. I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. It seems to me that the asshole propagandist who wrote this piece seriously defamed them. I hope they sue the shit out of him. I'd be willing to donate to a lawsuit. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 11:46:37 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, looks like OP got ahead of me. So I'll go ahead and give my take. Dan is one of my good friends, and yes, I'm a member of that militia. I know some peeps here sneer at the idea of the militia, which is kind of...contradictory since the word (and concept) is central to the clause in the Constitution that this entire site centers on. Weird. We've been doing it (mostly) right in VA. CCM's model is to be intentionally forward facing because the problem with secret squirrel shit is that, well, it's secret. It's not exactly the best way to inspire a movement. Yes, that carries risks. I sure am glad our Founding Fathers weren't as risk averse as so many of my fellow countrymen today. If they're coming after guys like Dan, be concerned. Be very fucking concerned. In the past, they've picked easy targets that are painful to defend, like neo-Nazi's or Patriot front dipshits stealing weapons from armories. This journalist is trying to destroy a good family. Dan and Alex are some of the highest quality individuals in this nation. Much of the activism in Virginia--a huge part of whatever success we've enjoyed the past 4 years in the 2A movement in this state--is due to their efforts. They are well known (and, most importantly, liked) by many in the Guard, our state legislature, and even in congress. I don't know what I can and cannot say at this moment, but know that Dan and Alex need our help, and I hope you'll all join me in supporting this family. I had a feeling you knew some inside baseball on this one. |
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