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4/26/2024 8:42:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dyezak][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By dupemaster:


5.13+6+3.85+3.04+3.19+4.53/220.05

Ran a PR mile today @ 7:09. It sucked.
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I've often wondered when it stops sucking.  I started this journey on 3/3/2023.  I'm a few days short of a year into this, and while all my metrics have improved:  I'm faster, stronger, leaner, higher VO2 Max, more endurance, etc.  It still sucks.  

2014 my 1mi time was 12min.  My 5k was 40min.  (farthest back I have logged runs)

2023 nothing had improved, and I ran infrequently at best, just a couple times a year. On 5/30/2023 I ran a 43min 5k.  

Here I am now running sub 25min 5k with a goal of going sub 23 this summer and close in on that 20min 5k by the end of the year.  I'm running farther than I ever have and will knock out my first 1/2 marathon here in a month.  Goal of completing my first marathon before the end of the year.

But it still sucks.  It sucks every run for the first one or two miles until I get in the zone.  Then it sucks the last one or two miles to close it out.  When does it stop sucking?

SIDE NOTE:  One of my friends has a kid going off to college this year.  He just ran his last track meet where he ran a 4:31mi and was 7th in district with that time.  Didn't even podium in highschool with a 4 and a half min mile.  AND couldn't get a single track scholarship.
4/26/2024 7:04:18 PM EDT
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8/624.1
4/26/2024 8:30:47 PM EDT
[#3]
9 + 5 / 1,129

I had planned on racing a 5k tomorrow, with DD2 starting by herself as well, then I'd turn around after finishing to find her and run with her the rest of the way.
Mothers being how they are, the plan is now for me to run the entire thing with her.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
4/26/2024 8:43:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Commander_Keen:
9 + 5 / 1,129

I had planned on racing a 5k tomorrow, with DD2 starting by herself as well, then I'd turn around after finishing to find her and run with her the rest of the way.
Mothers being how they are, the plan is now for me to run the entire thing with her.
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So, what's your carrying-your-DD2-5k PR?
Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
4/26/2024 8:56:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dyezak:


I've often wondered when it stops sucking.  I started this journey on 3/3/2023.  I'm a few days short of a year into this, and while all my metrics have improved:  I'm faster, stronger, leaner, higher VO2 Max, more endurance, etc.  It still sucks.  

2014 my 1mi time was 12min.  My 5k was 40min.  (farthest back I have logged runs)

2023 nothing had improved, and I ran infrequently at best, just a couple times a year. On 5/30/2023 I ran a 43min 5k.  

Here I am now running sub 25min 5k with a goal of going sub 23 this summer and close in on that 20min 5k by the end of the year.  I'm running farther than I ever have and will knock out my first 1/2 marathon here in a month.  Goal of completing my first marathon before the end of the year.

But it still sucks.  It sucks every run for the first one or two miles until I get in the zone.  Then it sucks the last one or two miles to close it out.  When does it stop sucking?

SIDE NOTE:  One of my friends has a kid going off to college this year.  He just ran his last track meet where he ran a 4:31mi and was 7th in district with that time.  Didn't even podium in highschool with a 4 and a half min mile.  AND couldn't get a single track scholarship.
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I'll let you know when I figure out the suckage.
Honestly though that's part of why I keep running reminds me I'm alive
Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
4/26/2024 9:02:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
So, what's your carrying-your-DD2-5k PR?
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
Originally Posted By Commander_Keen:
9 + 5 / 1,129

I had planned on racing a 5k tomorrow, with DD2 starting by herself as well, then I'd turn around after finishing to find her and run with her the rest of the way.
Mothers being how they are, the plan is now for me to run the entire thing with her.
So, what's your carrying-your-DD2-5k PR?


Thankfully she will be moving under her own power. This will be her first 5k.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
4/27/2024 4:15:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dyezak:


I've often wondered when it stops sucking.  I started this journey on 3/3/2023.  I'm a few days short of a year into this, and while all my metrics have improved:  I'm faster, stronger, leaner, higher VO2 Max, more endurance, etc.  It still sucks.  

2014 my 1mi time was 12min.  My 5k was 40min.  (farthest back I have logged runs)

2023 nothing had improved, and I ran infrequently at best, just a couple times a year. On 5/30/2023 I ran a 43min 5k.  

Here I am now running sub 25min 5k with a goal of going sub 23 this summer and close in on that 20min 5k by the end of the year.  I'm running farther than I ever have and will knock out my first 1/2 marathon here in a month.  Goal of completing my first marathon before the end of the year.

But it still sucks.  It sucks every run for the first one or two miles until I get in the zone.  Then it sucks the last one or two miles to close it out.  When does it stop sucking?

SIDE NOTE:  One of my friends has a kid going off to college this year.  He just ran his last track meet where he ran a 4:31mi and was 7th in district with that time.  Didn't even podium in highschool with a 4 and a half min mile.  AND couldn't get a single track scholarship.
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
Originally Posted By dupemaster:


5.13+6+3.85+3.04+3.19+4.53/220.05

Ran a PR mile today @ 7:09. It sucked.


I've often wondered when it stops sucking.  I started this journey on 3/3/2023.  I'm a few days short of a year into this, and while all my metrics have improved:  I'm faster, stronger, leaner, higher VO2 Max, more endurance, etc.  It still sucks.  

2014 my 1mi time was 12min.  My 5k was 40min.  (farthest back I have logged runs)

2023 nothing had improved, and I ran infrequently at best, just a couple times a year. On 5/30/2023 I ran a 43min 5k.  

Here I am now running sub 25min 5k with a goal of going sub 23 this summer and close in on that 20min 5k by the end of the year.  I'm running farther than I ever have and will knock out my first 1/2 marathon here in a month.  Goal of completing my first marathon before the end of the year.

But it still sucks.  It sucks every run for the first one or two miles until I get in the zone.  Then it sucks the last one or two miles to close it out.  When does it stop sucking?

SIDE NOTE:  One of my friends has a kid going off to college this year.  He just ran his last track meet where he ran a 4:31mi and was 7th in district with that time.  Didn't even podium in highschool with a 4 and a half min mile.  AND couldn't get a single track scholarship.


The suck stops when you stop trying to improve.

I was hurting so badly at the .75 mark that I stopped and walked for about ten seconds. Then I realized I was being a pussy and pushed on. I then stopped again with .1 left to go. I walked for about 5 seconds. Then got back on it and gave it all I had to the end. I was not tracking my pace but truly just trying to give best effort.

If I would have just never stopped running I would have either crushed my previous or or crashed and burned with .05 left to go. I’m not sure what one it would have been, but it pissed me off that I was on pace to get into the 6’s and I stopped.

When it stops pissing you off when you quit on yourself and you stop trying to improve, it will stop sucking. And that would suck.
I don't have anything more to say. Unless, I do.
4/27/2024 4:22:35 PM EDT
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3.84/223.89
I don't have anything more to say. Unless, I do.
4/27/2024 8:19:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dupemaster:


When it stops pissing you off when you quit on yourself and you stop trying to improve, it will stop sucking. And that would suck.
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I can get on board with this. When seconds feel like minutes and all you want to do is slow down, that's the ball grabber. And what really sucks when you give up early, is now you sorta lost that attempt. You have to go through it all again if you want to know if you can do it.
Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
4/27/2024 8:44:31 PM EDT
[#10]
WTF, my knee is killing me after that 10mi run.  WHY!!!
4/27/2024 8:57:56 PM EDT
[#11]
14 since last update/483.8
4/28/2024 5:31:12 PM EDT
[#12]
10+7/641.1
4/29/2024 2:57:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
I can get on board with this. When seconds feel like minutes and all you want to do is slow down, that's the ball grabber. And what really sucks when you give up early, is now you sorta lost that attempt. You have to go through it all again if you want to know if you can do it.
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
Originally Posted By dupemaster:


When it stops pissing you off when you quit on yourself and you stop trying to improve, it will stop sucking. And that would suck.
I can get on board with this. When seconds feel like minutes and all you want to do is slow down, that's the ball grabber. And what really sucks when you give up early, is now you sorta lost that attempt. You have to go through it all again if you want to know if you can do it.



You lose an attempt, but at the same time you learn something about yourself. Maybe you mentally bitched out, maybe it was physically. Did you know which one it was before? Did you know what it really felt like to hit the limit, or did your brain get in the way. Was it your will or was it survival and protection kicking in? You won’t know unless you push it and if you don’t push it, you won’t learn about you. Never stop learning. Never stop pushing.
I don't have anything more to say. Unless, I do.
4/29/2024 7:43:21 AM EDT
[#14]
5/488.8
4/29/2024 7:55:11 AM EDT
[#15]
10/651.1
4/29/2024 4:06:42 PM EDT
[#16]

10.2/234.09
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4/30/2024 10:52:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dupemaster:


The suck stops when you stop trying to improve.

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I needed to hear this!  Good advice.  

Can I ask for some advice?

My marathon is next Saturday. I’m nervous about what’s going to hold me accountable after this marathon. Plus our 3rd child is due in June so I will have some extra obstacles to overcome.

For the last 4 months I have had every run tracked and loaded onto my watch. I walk up my driveway hit the run activity, and had a scheduled run loaded.

I would like to do a 50k/50 miler next year.

Any advice on what a good number of Miles per week I should maintain?   Objectives to complete to stay on track but get back to a semi normal life?

I was thinking of no less than 30-40 miles per week. With at least one long run (12-17miles)


4/30/2024 2:26:14 PM EDT
[#18]
4/492.8
4/30/2024 10:07:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bip_master][Edited] [#19]
Closed out the month with a 5.3mi temp run. 134.94 for April, 515mi ytd.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
-USAWTF
5/1/2024 8:27:09 AM EDT
[#20]
12/663.1
5/1/2024 9:54:22 PM EDT
[#21]
4 + 3.7/500.5
5/2/2024 9:50:33 PM EDT
[#22]
6.25/669.35
5/3/2024 8:54:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:


I needed to hear this!  Good advice.  

Can I ask for some advice?

My marathon is next Saturday. I'm nervous about what's going to hold me accountable after this marathon. Plus our 3rd child is due in June so I will have some extra obstacles to overcome.

For the last 4 months I have had every run tracked and loaded onto my watch. I walk up my driveway hit the run activity, and had a scheduled run loaded.

I would like to do a 50k/50 miler next year.

Any advice on what a good number of Miles per week I should maintain?   Objectives to complete to stay on track but get back to a semi normal life?

I was thinking of no less than 30-40 miles per week. With at least one long run (12-17miles)


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Good luck on the big race.  Please let us know how it goes!  I would think 30-40 mpw would keep you in solid shape and let you jump into 50k/50m ultra territory with a great base.  No idea what a training plan for that looks like, but don't overthink it.  Get the miles in that you can.  Mix in speed, slow, long workouts.  

You might consider building some workouts into your watch so you can continue to have your run detail determined prior to waking up in the morning.  Daily suggested workout can also feed you runs, but I'm not sure if it will provide the level of training you're after.  I'm only 2 weeks into a watch that has DSW so maybe it can be geared towards ultra training, unsure.  

Congrats on the kid.  I have 3 myself.  Between that, work, wife, chores, etc it makes for a busy life.  Babies are a whole 'nother multiplier!
Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
5/3/2024 8:58:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
31.7 this week / 454.3
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It has been a minute since I've updated.

Have been using Daily Suggested Workouts on my new watch (FR955).  I like it, but it doesn't seem to be providing the miles I want.  So I've been slowly trying to add additional miles on the end of my workout.  Unsure if that will help 'train' DSW to start giving me longer runs?  For example, it loves to feed me 30 minute 'base' runs when I'm used to 45-75 minute base runs without using DSW.  My long run tomorrow is planned for 51 minutes, when I'm normally out for at least 90, most Saturdays over 2 hours.  

29/483.3
Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
5/3/2024 8:58:55 AM EDT
[#25]
Whoa!

I didn't know this thread existed.

Does the treadmill count?

My office has a gym and I can workout pre post or during my shift.

My normal routine is walk 1 mile, run 5. If I'm off and don't have to do anything it's walk 3, run 5 especially when I have a good audiobook to listen to.

I will add my running log here in a bit when I calculate it off the underarmor app.
connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles

Let's go Brandon

CINCAFUGD
5/3/2024 8:59:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
Good luck on the big race.  Please let us know how it goes!  I would think 30-40 mpw would keep you in solid shape and let you jump into 50k/50m ultra territory with a great base.  No idea what a training plan for that looks like, but don't overthink it.  Get the miles in that you can.  Mix in speed, slow, long workouts.  @Commander_Keen can probably help

You might consider building some workouts into your watch so you can continue to have your run detail determined prior to waking up in the morning.  Daily suggested workout can also feed you runs, but I'm not sure if it will provide the level of training you're after.  I'm only 2 weeks into a watch that has DSW so maybe it can be geared towards ultra training, unsure.  

Congrats on the kid.  I have 3 myself.  Between that, work, wife, chores, etc it makes for a busy life.  Babies are a whole 'nother multiplier!
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Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
5/3/2024 2:19:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By R3L04D:
Good luck on the big race.  Please let us know how it goes!  I would think 30-40 mpw would keep you in solid shape and let you jump into 50k/50m ultra territory with a great base.  No idea what a training plan for that looks like, but don't overthink it.  Get the miles in that you can.  Mix in speed, slow, long workouts.  

You might consider building some workouts into your watch so you can continue to have your run detail determined prior to waking up in the morning.  Daily suggested workout can also feed you runs, but I'm not sure if it will provide the level of training you're after.  I'm only 2 weeks into a watch that has DSW so maybe it can be geared towards ultra training, unsure.  

Congrats on the kid.  I have 3 myself.  Between that, work, wife, chores, etc it makes for a busy life.  Babies are a whole 'nother multiplier!
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Thanks for that!  I’ll let you guys know.  These last taper weeks are pretty glorious.  

My kids and family really know how to humble my ass….I am out here just trying to make sure I don’t die during my first marathon. They say “are you going to win?”  “Well doesn’t everyone get a medal?”  My grandma tells me I should try and do the Boston marathon.  


5/4/2024 8:03:12 AM EDT
[#28]
6/675.35
5/5/2024 10:19:23 AM EDT
[#29]
8+5/688.35
5/5/2024 2:47:28 PM EDT
[#30]

5.40+4.21/243.3
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5/5/2024 9:45:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Ran a PR half marathon today. 1:28.43. First time below 90 minutes.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
-USAWTF
5/6/2024 3:46:07 AM EDT
[#32]
Went back and looked through my running app and jotted down all the times I ran, not walked.

1/4/24 5.04
1/6/24 3.12
2/6/24 5.00
2/17/24 2.15
2/20/24 5.0
2/23/24 5.0
2/24/24 5.00
2/25/24 5.00
2/27/24 5.0
2/28/24 5.0
2/29/24 5.0
3/5/24 5.0
3/16/24 5.00
3/22/24 5.00
3/29/24 5.00
4/16/24 5.00
4/19/24 5.00
4/20/24 5.00
4/25/24 5.00
5/2/24 5.00
05/3/24 5.00
05/4/24 3.00
5/6/24 5.00

108.31

I thought I’d be a lot closer 5 months into the challenge but I guess I need to step up my game.

connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles

Let's go Brandon

CINCAFUGD
5/6/2024 8:34:30 AM EDT
[#33]
5/693.35
5/6/2024 1:19:20 PM EDT
[#34]
17.5 since last update/518
5/8/2024 6:44:41 PM EDT
[#35]
6.15/699.5
5/9/2024 1:52:33 PM EDT
[#36]
5/704.5
5/11/2024 8:00:56 PM EDT
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3/707.5

26.5/734

Followed a few dudes that took the wrong path off course. Logged 26.5 instead of 26.2.

PRed my 1/2 marathon at 1:40.

7:49 for my average pace for entire marathon.

Humble brag but I killed it for first marathon at 37 years old.
5/11/2024 10:38:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:


3/707.5

26.5/734

Followed a few dudes that took the wrong path off course. Logged 26.5 instead of 26.2.

PRed my 1/2 marathon at 1:40.

7:49 for my average pace for entire marathon.

Humble brag but I killed it for first marathon at 37 years old.
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Congrats!
5/11/2024 10:41:43 PM EDT
[#39]
28.1 since last update/546.1
5/12/2024 12:33:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:


3/707.5

26.5/734

Followed a few dudes that took the wrong path off course. Logged 26.5 instead of 26.2.

PRed my 1/2 marathon at 1:40.

7:49 for my average pace for entire marathon.

Humble brag but I killed it for first marathon at 37 years old.
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Damn. Well done.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
5/12/2024 6:20:29 PM EDT
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Thank you guys!

Chip Time
3:25:46.4
Gun Time
3:25:51.7
Pace
7:51
Overall
10 of 123
Male 35 to 39
3 of 19
All Male
9 of 87

Now, prepping the house for incoming baby and planting garden.  I’ll rest when I’m dead I guess.

5/15/2024 10:08:21 AM EDT
[#42]
10.5 since last update/556.7
5/15/2024 11:40:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Trod7308:
Thank you guys!

Chip Time
3:25:46.4
Gun Time
3:25:51.7
Pace
7:51
Overall
10 of 123
Male 35 to 39
3 of 19
All Male
9 of 87

Now, prepping the house for incoming baby and planting garden.  I'll rest when I'm dead I guess.

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Incredible. Great job. What was your goal time?

Remind me what training plan you followed?
5/16/2024 7:58:05 AM EDT
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Incredible. Great job. What was your goal time?

Remind me what training plan you followed?
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Thank you.

Goal time was to finish without walking.  lol!  Really tho I would have been happy with 9:09/4hrs. Per the pace chart for HMM That’s PACE  I applied to my workouts for the different runs. But, I could never slow all the way down to the recommended easy paces.   As training progressed I just naturally got “faster”.  

I followed the Hansons marathon method beginners program. Around week 6 I had to take a step back due to a knee injury.  But besides that I stuck to the weekly mileage.

My marathon had 1000’ of elevation. I made sure to make that a part of my runs. I live rural and there’s alot of rolling hills on my backroads. I think that helped with my training.
5/17/2024 6:41:25 AM EDT
[#45]
Truing up to what's in Garmin

I'm at 547.3 YTD
5/18/2024 4:04:22 PM EDT
[#46]
15.2 since last update/571.9
5/18/2024 10:29:18 PM EDT
[#47]
5/739
5/19/2024 5:29:04 PM EDT
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How are you feeling post marathon? I've heard the first few runs can make you rethink life decisions depending on how your recovery went
5/19/2024 7:41:48 PM EDT
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How are you feeling post marathon? I've heard the first few runs can make you rethink life decisions depending on how your recovery went
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6/745

I feel pretty good. Took 6 days off of running. Of course my first 2 days of running the only time I could fit them in was at 3pm and it was 86F. lol

I plan to do a 50k on October 5. It’s very flat so plan on easing my way into ultras. Would like to do a 50 miler next April.
5/19/2024 9:16:54 PM EDT
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7/578.9

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