fudge em.

I, for one, did not experience that.

We had a good run.  

Though all societies run pretty much the same course.  We are heading into the bad part of that course.

Stupid folks are too clueless to hide their ignorance and in some cases parade it around because it triggers others.  Therein you end up with a perception of more ignorance than actually exists.  Some folks know what they don't know.

It’s a greenhouse gas.

That's why I bought a yeller house!

There’s no way I’m gonna read the whole thread, but Americans are even dumber than you think they are. Arabic numerals were actually created an India by the Hindus, co-opted by the Arabs, and introduced to the Europeans, who called them Arabic Because Europeans were first exposed to them through the Arabs. So actually, by calling Indian/Hindu numerals Arabic, we are being Eurocentric and Perpetuating white supremacy.

Hey I’m pretty good at this woke bullshit!

Real Arabic numerals, or the modern India-developed version?

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Absolutely!    

All engineering should be done in Roman numerals from now on....  


... perhaps Boeing is ahead of this, and used Roman numerals for all the Starliner engineering?

GD is acting all high and mighty over this but come back in a few days with the same poll here and I'd bet you'd end up with the same percentage.

Right next to my slide rule.

I don't know if you're joking or stupid but 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 are the Arabic numerals.

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Both are from India originally, it's just that the ones we're most familiar with were in wide use in the North Africa when North Africa was also in Europe.

The only way I see this as problematic, is that you have X % of people all at the median, which would reduce either side of the curve by 0.5X%.

So, if you have 10% at the median then only 45% would be dumber than median.

But, it's been a few decades since taking a stats class.

Clown world

IQ is a BELL fucking curve. Median = Mean = Mode by definition.

So yes, 1/2 of the people are in fact stupider than the MATHEMATICAL average.

To get IQ specific though, 68% of the people's IQs are from 85 - 105, but yes, Carlin is 100% correct. "Below" average starts at 99.9 IQ and goes down from there which is 50% of the people.



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So, lets say you have a population of 1,000,000 people with a median IQ of 100.  

Let's also assume 100,000 people have a 100 IQ.  

That leaves 900,000 people to fill in both sides of the distribution...equally.  

That would be 450,000 on either side of the mean.  Or said another way...45% of the population has an IQ lower than the mean.

IQ doesn't mean what people think it means. The human mind is not a computer but analogies can be drawn.

In this model "IQ" is how fast someone's processor is, how many cores it has, how much memory the PC has, and the speed and capacity of the hard drive. People with a high IQ learn faster and easier. They can remember more of what they learn. They have an easier time of integrating what they have learned into an overall understanding of things. And, as learning is easier for high IQ people, they often spend more time doing it.

At the human BIOS level you have various other mental conditions such as ADHD, schizophrenia, depression, etc. These are largely hard coded things in someone's brain, perhaps set in early childhood, which the person has to work through.

You then have the OS level which is essentially a person's culture. What languages they speak, what values have they been taught, things like that.

And then you have their education and experience which is the equivalent of the applications which have been installed in their brains. Naturally some of the more advanced software (like theoretical physics) won't run very well, or at all, on low end hardware. And much of what is taught today is actually malware, which reduces the person's ability to think.

As it relates to Arabic numerals, this is not an IQ issue. You can take a person with a 75 IQ and teach him that the numbers he has managed to learn came from the Arabs (I know, it was India) and are called Arabic numerals. Or you can take someone with a 125 IQ and never give him that information and he won't know what Arabic numerals are.

In short, this is an educational failure.

Might want to let people know that the number system is called Arabic numbers, is pre Islam. The Islamists claim it, but it existed centuries before Islam took hold.

I like to call it, Pre Islamic Arab number system.

Perfectly valid problem as well.

But on a simpler level, IQ scores aren’t evenly distributed so you’d have to find their central tendency with a median as opposed to an average.

But if carlins joke was “Think of how stupid the median person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”  His joke would have fallen flat because:

A - median intelligence in the US isn’t really that low.

And

2 - he would have lost the lower half of the bell curve that doesn’t know what a median is.

Admittedly, IQ tests are normalized so that this isn’t such an huge issue, but still.