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Link Posted: 5/4/2023 4:19:10 AM EST
[#1]
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 6:44:22 AM EST
[#2]
Agreed.  I have never seen such a high ratio of content to commentary and useless troll-posting in GD.  You expect that in the Tech Forums, but not here.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 6:52:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Silas:
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.
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Agreed. Thank you Alacran, and don't worry about the trolls.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 6:55:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Fantomas:


that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?

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Originally Posted By Alacran:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqBE-YeaQM



that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1




Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:14:19 AM EST
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This Twitter account is worth watching for financial happenings.
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Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:36:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Silas:
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.
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Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
Agreed.  I have never seen such a high ratio of content to commentary and useless troll-posting in GD.  You expect that in the Tech Forums, but not here.
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Originally Posted By burnka871:



Agreed. Thank you Alacran, and don't worry about the trolls.
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Thank you all for the kind words of support.  

A big reason why this thread expanded beyond just food shortages and famine is finding other articles/stories/reports that I thought was applicable to the food angle and also worth sharing. The more I dig, the more rabbit holes I find.  What’s going on today is extremely complex and multi-layered, multi-dimensional and I’m finding that information must be from multiple sources and then assembled together to get the big picture.  That may also explain some of the post content from time to time.  

I also post from sources I don’t 100% agree with but consider portions of the information to be very valuable. I guess it’s up to the individual to extract what is valuable and what isn’t, or dismiss it all together.  For instance, I don’t agree with David Dubyne on everything but get enough from his content that it fills in the gaps as well as makes me think and consider other views I would have never considered otherwise.  

I’m definitely not an absolutist when it comes to information anymore.  In 2023, you have to have your own filter with alternate media sources, mainstream media sources, and even state run propaganda sources. Truth can be found everywhere, even if you have to read between the lines or look for what isn’t included in the story.  

Many of these rabbit holes are very dark and deep.  You may have also noticed a darker commentary from me in recent months.  A scenario about global famine does not have a happy ending for a lot of people.  A storm is coming that will more than likely produce a tornado. The question is just how big that tornado will become, how many it will kill, and how big of an area it will devastate.

I sure didn’t expect this thread to go in the direction it has when I first started it but this has been a hell of a journey for me over the past year and thanks to you all for taking the ride with me and adding to it along the way.




Link Posted: 5/4/2023 7:49:31 AM EST
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Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:10:53 AM EST
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No surprise here.  Fully expected and will go further.

'Nothing to hide,' says ex-President Bolsonaro after police raid home
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:14:07 AM EST
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Texas Slows Cross-Border Trucks from Matamoros to a Crawl Amid Immigrant Surge

AUSTIN, Texas – In a reprise of a controversial diplomatic pressure tactic against Mexico from last year, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has ordered tedious truck safety inspections once again that have effectively shut down a major commercial trucking artery from Mexico, the Center for Immigration Studies has confirmed.

The deployment of Texas Department of Public Safety vehicle safety inspection officers Tuesday has all but closed the trucking lanes at Veterans International Bridge at Los Tomates leading from Matamoros into Brownsville. That bridge’s two trucking lanes are open daily from 6 a.m. to midnight.
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https://cis.org/Bensman/Texas-Slows-CrossBorder-Trucks-Matamoros-Crawl-Amid-Immigrant-Surge

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:16:42 AM EST
[#10]
Originally Posted By Silas:
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.
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Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
Agreed.  I have never seen such a high ratio of content to commentary and useless troll-posting in GD.  You expect that in the Tech Forums, but not here.
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Originally Posted By burnka871:



Agreed. Thank you Alacran, and don't worry about the trolls.
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I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:19:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aspida1776:
We need a Michael Yon doom porn sub forum for this nonsense.
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Whew!  Good thing you came in here to tell us this pearl of wisdom.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:25:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KillerDyller:





I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.
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Originally Posted By KillerDyller:
Originally Posted By Silas:
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.

Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
Agreed.  I have never seen such a high ratio of content to commentary and useless troll-posting in GD.  You expect that in the Tech Forums, but not here.

Originally Posted By burnka871:


Agreed. Thank you Alacran, and don't worry about the trolls.



I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.


Yep, as do  I, occasionally.

Things  should be discussed honestly and openly.  


Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:28:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/

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TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:37:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJlRbDASjfY
Yuval Noah Harari paints a grim picture of the AI age, roots for safety checks

Celebrated author Yuval Noah Harari believes that AI has "hacked" the operating system of human civilization.

Artificial intelligence is shaking up the world. While experiments and research in this sub-field of computer science have been ongoing for decades, the recent launch of OpenAI’s powerful chatbot ChatGPT seems to be a seminal point in the timeline of AI technologies. The chatbot’s astounding abilities have led many companies to try their hands at developing their own chatbots or even integrating similar AI in their products and services.

Since time immemorial, new technologies or innovations have witnessed fear and awe before they were embraced by mankind. Most new inventions have been met with shock and apprehension, with many either hailing them or downright condemning them. The ongoing AI wave is no different. While many have heaped praise on it, there is scepticism in equal measure.

Yuval Noah Harari, known for the acclaimed non-fiction book Sapiens: A Brief History of Mankind, in his latest article in The Economist, has said that artificial intelligence has “hacked” the operating system of human civilization. The Israeli public intellectual has been known for his comments on the opportunities and threats from AI in recent times.

The root of the fear

In his latest article, he argues that the fear of AI has haunted humanity ever since the beginning of the computer age. However, he said that the newly emerged AI tools in recent years could threaten the survival of human civilization from an “unexpected direction.”

He demonstrated how AI could impact culture by talking about language, which is integral to human culture. “Language is the stuff almost all human culture is made of. Human rights, for example, aren’t inscribed in our DNA. Rather, they are cultural artifacts we created by telling stories and writing laws. Gods aren’t physical realities. Rather, they are cultural artifacts we created by inventing myths and writing scriptures,” wrote Harari.

He stated that democracy is also a language that dwells on meaningful conversations, and when AI hacks language it could also destroy democracy.

The author said that the rise of AI is having a profound impact on society, affecting various aspects of economics, politics, culture, and psychology. The 47-year-old wrote that the biggest challenge of the AI age was not the creation of intelligent tools but striking a collaboration between humans and machines.

To highlight the extent of how AI-driven misinformation can change the course of events, Harari touched upon the cult QAnon, a political movement affiliated with the far-right in the US. QAnon disseminated misinformation via “Q drops” that were seen as sacred by followers.

AI and the power of intimacy

Harari also shed light on how AI could form intimate relationships with people and influence their decisions. “Through its mastery of language, AI could even form intimate relationships with people and use the power of intimacy to change our opinions and worldviews,” he wrote. To demonstrate this, he cited the example of Blake Lemoine, a Google engineer who lost his job after publicly claiming that the AI chatbot LaMDA had become sentient. According to the historian, the controversial claim cost Lemoine his job. He asked if AI can influence people to risk their jobs, what else could it induce them to do?

Harari also said that intimacy was an effective weapon in the political battle of minds and hearts. He said that in the past few years, social media has become a battleground for controlling human attention, and the new generation of AI can convince people to vote for a particular politician or buy a certain product.

The author drew parallels between present-day AI and the notions of the world of illusions by 17th-century philosopher Rene Descartes and the idea of Maya from Buddhist and Hindu sages. Highlighting the need for regulations, Harari cited the example of nuclear energy, stating that while it could produce cheap power, it could also destroy human civilization. However, over the years, we have reshaped the international order to ensure that nuclear technology is used for the collective good.

Regulation is key

In his bid to call attention to the need to regulate AI technology, Harari said that the first regulation should be to make it mandatory for AI to disclose that it is an AI. He said it was important to put a halt on ‘irresponsible deployment’ of AI tools in the public domain, and regulating it before it regulates us.

The author also shed light on the fact that how the current social and political systems are incapable of dealing with the challenges posed by AI. Harari emphasised the need to have an ethical framework to respond to challenges posed by AI.

The author has, on numerous occasions, shared his thoughts on the rapid developments in AI. In March, Harari wrote an op-ed in The New York Times discussing the rapid progress and implications of GPT-like chatbots and the future of human interactions. He argued that while GPT-3 had made remarkable progress, it was far from replacing human interactions. He also suggested that AI could lead to greater inequality, something which billionaire Bill Gates had alluded to in his blog post.

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/artificial-intelligence/yuval-noah-harari-paints-a-grim-picture-of-the-ai-age-8582825/
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Well, I don’t think I ever heard of any movies made about cotton gins or steam engines coming alive and exterminating mankind.

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 8:39:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KillerDyller:





I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.
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Absolutely. Everyone should.

To me it is data that I file away. Because some of the most outlandish Glen Beck, Alex Jones, Trump, and Rush theories are panning out to be pretty damn true.

The media and the government are so damn good at burying the truth it is just astounding. Worse is that they convince all of us that a lot of the stuff we read about in this thread is fringe kooky stuff. But look at these bank collapses, the general public is clueless about how bad it really is and more failures are coming. This was posted in another thread...It isnt even including PacWest, Western Alliance, or Metropolitan Bank that are failing as we speak

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There isnt a lot I can do about most of this stuff. But the data in this thread is free and while some of it is wrong, or more accurately didnt come to fruition, most of this is an ongoing downward spiral. Maybe just maybe at some point something I have read here will help me take care of my family in some way and all it costs me is a few minutes a day to skim through some of the links.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 9:01:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KillerDyller:





I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.
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Originally Posted By KillerDyller:
Originally Posted By Silas:
All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.

Originally Posted By amannamedjed:
Agreed.  I have never seen such a high ratio of content to commentary and useless troll-posting in GD.  You expect that in the Tech Forums, but not here.

Originally Posted By burnka871:



Agreed. Thank you Alacran, and don't worry about the trolls.



I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.


The content should be questioned. It’s a clearinghouse for information gathered from all different sources. It’s a discussion forum not Fox News where absolutely everything should and will be vetted thru multiple sources.

By questioning it, you are “internetting correctly”.
Take what you find useful, leave the rest.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 9:05:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:



TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/

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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/




TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/



“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 9:11:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Canoeguy:

Absolutely. Everyone should.

To me it is data that I file away. Because some of the most outlandish Glen Beck, Alex Jones, Trump, and Rush theories are panning out to be pretty damn true.

The media and the government are so damn good at burying the truth it is just astounding. Worse is that they convince all of us that a lot of the stuff we read about in this thread is fringe kooky stuff. But look at these bank collapses, the general public is clueless about how bad it really is and more failures are coming. This was posted in another thread...It isnt even including PacWest, Western Alliance, or Metropolitan Bank that are failing as we speak

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191077/Bank_jpg-2805237.JPG


There isnt a lot I can do about most of this stuff. But the data in this thread is free and while some of it is wrong, or more accurately didnt come to fruition, most of this is an ongoing downward spiral. Maybe just maybe at some point something I have read here will help me take care of my family in some way and all it costs me is a few minutes a day to skim through some of the links.
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Truth. What is amazing to me, is I'll find out about things on Arfcom 2-3 days before it makes it to mainstream media. We find out about bank failures as they're happening. Shortages as they're happening. This gives us the opportunity to make decisions before the masses know about it.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 9:16:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:


“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/




TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/



“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.


Exactly.  My first thought was this might be a prelude to kinetic war but also remembered twitter has many enemies on all sides now.

Still not completely discounting the prelude to kinetic war angle though.  

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 11:47:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:


There’s just no way that was a serious attempt by a state (Ukraine) actor. That’s a Russian false flag to justify something.
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Keep pushing towards WWIII.  That will be the biggest catalyst for food shortages here in America.



TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
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Footage of the second drone strike on the Kremlin.

16 minutes elapsed between the strikes of the two UAVs.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110305396140184632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLbbqQpVC8



There’s just no way that was a serious attempt by a state (Ukraine) actor. That’s a Russian false flag to justify something.


I agree, assassination attempt is pure propaganda.  To me, it looks more like a symbolic attack on the Russian flag.

Episode 697 - Did Ukraine Try to Assassinate Putin?


Link Posted: 5/4/2023 12:01:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:


Exactly.  My first thought was this might be a prelude to kinetic war but also remembered twitter has many enemies on all sides now.

Still not completely discounting the prelude to kinetic war angle though.  

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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/




TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/



“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.


Exactly.  My first thought was this might be a prelude to kinetic war but also remembered twitter has many enemies on all sides now.

Still not completely discounting the prelude to kinetic war angle though.  



That’s a valid point.
Any major war we might find ourselves in (like with China) will probably kick off with attacks on all major forms of communication. And Twitter is that.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 12:08:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alacran:


I agree, assassination attempt is pure propaganda.  To me, it looks more like a symbolic attack on the Russian flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MepkzyOd5Y

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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Keep pushing towards WWIII.  That will be the biggest catalyst for food shortages here in America.



TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
38m
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Footage of the second drone strike on the Kremlin.

16 minutes elapsed between the strikes of the two UAVs.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110305396140184632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLbbqQpVC8



There’s just no way that was a serious attempt by a state (Ukraine) actor. That’s a Russian false flag to justify something.


I agree, assassination attempt is pure propaganda.  To me, it looks more like a symbolic attack on the Russian flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MepkzyOd5Y



Total spitball...

If you note, in one of the videos where the drone explodes adjacent to the flag, there is some sort of grandstand set up on the parade grounds (Red Square?)

My initial thought was also simply an attack on the Russian flag. If it was a Ukrainian attack, perhaps it was more a "proof of concept" type thing and that ultimately they can successfully target the area around the Kremlin for future attacks, like during a military display when many dignitaries and officials would be observing.
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 12:22:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:


That’s a valid point.
Any major war we might find ourselves in (like with China) will probably kick off with attacks on all major forms of communication. And Twitter is that.
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/




TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/



“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.


Exactly.  My first thought was this might be a prelude to kinetic war but also remembered twitter has many enemies on all sides now.

Still not completely discounting the prelude to kinetic war angle though.  



That’s a valid point.
Any major war we might find ourselves in (like with China) will probably kick off with attacks on all major forms of communication. And Twitter is that.


Whenever I lose access at work, that’s my first thought anymore.  Doesn’t happen very often but when it does, it’s usually associated with a malicious attack on the network.

Multiple outages and I’m really paying attention.



Link Posted: 5/4/2023 12:32:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PWA_Commando:


Total spitball...

If you note, in one of the videos where the drone explodes adjacent to the flag, there is some sort of grandstand set up on the parade grounds (Red Square?)

My initial thought was also simply an attack on the Russian flag. If it was a Ukrainian attack, perhaps it was more a "proof of concept" type thing and that ultimately they can successfully target the area around the Kremlin for future attacks, like during a military display when many dignitaries and officials would be observing.
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Originally Posted By Alacran:
Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
Originally Posted By Alacran:
Keep pushing towards WWIII.  That will be the biggest catalyst for food shortages here in America.



TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
38m
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Footage of the second drone strike on the Kremlin.

16 minutes elapsed between the strikes of the two UAVs.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110305396140184632

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLbbqQpVC8



There’s just no way that was a serious attempt by a state (Ukraine) actor. That’s a Russian false flag to justify something.


I agree, assassination attempt is pure propaganda.  To me, it looks more like a symbolic attack on the Russian flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MepkzyOd5Y



Total spitball...

If you note, in one of the videos where the drone explodes adjacent to the flag, there is some sort of grandstand set up on the parade grounds (Red Square?)

My initial thought was also simply an attack on the Russian flag. If it was a Ukrainian attack, perhaps it was more a "proof of concept" type thing and that ultimately they can successfully target the area around the Kremlin for future attacks, like during a military display when many dignitaries and officials would be observing.


Sources I follow indicate a major escalation towards the second half of May.  I do think this is a prelude to that, no matter who’s really behind it.

Who knows?  

Lots of tinderboxes all over the world right now….

https://eurasiantimes.com/us-dangerously-close-to-nuclear-crisis-after-russia/

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Italy bans lab grown meat.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110310712306039611

Link Posted: 5/4/2023 12:42:21 PM EST
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Whenever I lose access at work, that’s my first thought anymore.  Doesn’t happen very often but when it does, it’s usually associated with a malicious attack on the network.

Multiple outages and I’m really paying attention.



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Man, looks like twitter got whacked!

https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/




TWIT TWOUBLE Twitter ‘down’ as thousands of users complain app not working in mystery outage

A staggering 76 percent of reports claimed issues surrounding the website.

Another 13 percent of reports flagged problems with logging into the platform.

The remaining 11 percent of reports noted concerns with the server connection.

Some users in Downdetector's comments said they were having trouble tweeting.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/8035389/twitter-down-thousands-users-complain-app/





“Thousands of users complain”. It’s an app. Go find something else to do while they fix it.

That right there is proof of peoples dependence on social media. I understand it’s a huge part of our lives but I really believe if you wanted to create serious social unrest that you’d just turn off the internet for a week.

It’s really not healthy to be that dependent on it.


Exactly.  My first thought was this might be a prelude to kinetic war but also remembered twitter has many enemies on all sides now.

Still not completely discounting the prelude to kinetic war angle though.  



That’s a valid point.
Any major war we might find ourselves in (like with China) will probably kick off with attacks on all major forms of communication. And Twitter is that.


Whenever I lose access at work, that’s my first thought anymore.  Doesn’t happen very often but when it does, it’s usually associated with a malicious attack on the network.

Multiple outages and I’m really paying attention.





https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Mass-outages-with-att-clearwave-and-Verizon-My-CC-is-not-working-even-/5-2642712/



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The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqBE-YeaQM



that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1







thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe

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thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqBE-YeaQM



that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1







thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe



They absolutely do as far as with the UK and Ireland.  France is basically acting the same way as Mexico does with the US.

Is there a particular country or countries in Europe you may be interested in focusing on?  I can see what I can did up.


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They absolutely do as far as with the UK and Ireland.  France is basically acting the same way as Mexico does with the US.

Is there a particular country or countries in Europe you may be interested in focusing on?  I can see what I can did up.


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that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1







thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe



They absolutely do as far as with the UK and Ireland.  France is basically acting the same way as Mexico does with the US.

Is there a particular country or countries in Europe you may be interested in focusing on?  I can see what I can did up.





Germany is what I was interested in

they have massive immigration - same as here mostly young Man

all that started under Merkel but recently there is a influx

the German press does not really cover this and if they do it's a little blurb - especially if a crime is committed

there have been a lot of knife attacks and even shootings in Berlin

I am in Berlin a few month each year and I have seen how Berlin has changed over the years - specifically the part where I grew up (it's in the south - Lichtenrade)

both of the schools I used to go to have changed drastically and there is a lot of violence now


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All of the trolls should really just go away.

This thread is one of the best I’ve seen on this site in all of my 20 years here.

So much info all in one spot.

A big thank you for starting it, the constant updates, and the contributors that help keep it going.
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Amen, and well stated.
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To be fair, my neighbors and I are banding together, thinking of putting in a root cellar.

Will I be taken away for hoarding?
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Germany is what I was interested in

they have massive immigration - same as here mostly young Man

all that started under Merkel but recently there is a influx

the German press does not really cover this and if they do it's a little blurb - especially if a crime is committed

there have been a lot of knife attacks and even shootings in Berlin

I am in Berlin a few month each year and I have seen how Berlin has changed over the years - specifically the part where I grew up (it's in the south - Lichtenrade)

both of the schools I used to go to have changed drastically and there is a lot of violence now


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqBE-YeaQM



that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1







thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe



They absolutely do as far as with the UK and Ireland.  France is basically acting the same way as Mexico does with the US.

Is there a particular country or countries in Europe you may be interested in focusing on?  I can see what I can did up.





Germany is what I was interested in

they have massive immigration - same as here mostly young Man

all that started under Merkel but recently there is a influx

the German press does not really cover this and if they do it's a little blurb - especially if a crime is committed

there have been a lot of knife attacks and even shootings in Berlin

I am in Berlin a few month each year and I have seen how Berlin has changed over the years - specifically the part where I grew up (it's in the south - Lichtenrade)

both of the schools I used to go to have changed drastically and there is a lot of violence now




I’ll see if I can find something.  Hopefully, there’s something out there in English.

During the last Ramadan, there was a picture of a huge crowd holding prayer around the Siegessäule.  I’m pretty sure that was sourced from Tommy Robinson.


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I’ll see if I can find something.  Hopefully, there’s something out there in English.

During the last Ramadan, there was a picture of a huge crowd holding prayer around the Siegessäule.  I’m pretty sure that was sourced from Tommy Robinson.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqBE-YeaQM



that was a good video


does anybody do this type of reporting on Europe's illegal immigration?



The best source I’ve found for this is Tommy Robinson but he doesn’t do the on site reporting & investigating that Michael Yon or Chuck Holton do.  He also concentrates on Ireland & the UK but occasionally posts about what’s happening in the rest of Europe, too.  He’s a lightning rod for controversy so he’s been banned from Twitter multiple times, even under Musk’s ownership, and most British & European media won’t give him a platform or even have his as a guest.

He’s absolutely is worth following and I post his stuff here and in other threads all the time -

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial

https://gettr.com/user/TommyRobinson1







thank you

I am guessing that the same NGO's have a hand in what is going on in Europe



They absolutely do as far as with the UK and Ireland.  France is basically acting the same way as Mexico does with the US.

Is there a particular country or countries in Europe you may be interested in focusing on?  I can see what I can did up.





Germany is what I was interested in

they have massive immigration - same as here mostly young Man

all that started under Merkel but recently there is a influx

the German press does not really cover this and if they do it's a little blurb - especially if a crime is committed

there have been a lot of knife attacks and even shootings in Berlin

I am in Berlin a few month each year and I have seen how Berlin has changed over the years - specifically the part where I grew up (it's in the south - Lichtenrade)

both of the schools I used to go to have changed drastically and there is a lot of violence now




I’ll see if I can find something.  Hopefully, there’s something out there in English.

During the last Ramadan, there was a picture of a huge crowd holding prayer around the Siegessäule.  I’m pretty sure that was sourced from Tommy Robinson.





I saw that in the Newspaper

Palästinenser had large demonstration in Berlin the other day

„Tod den Juden, Tod Israel!“ – Antisemitische Parolen bei Palästinenser-Demo in Berlin


https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/judenhass-demo-auf-berlins-strassen-das-ritual-der-emporung-reicht-nicht-9639857.html
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I check this thread daily. Plenty of good info.

I do question some of the content at times, but appreciate what you are doing here.
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Same here. Thanks everyone
Link Posted: 5/4/2023 4:24:15 PM EST
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Migrants caught on camera with a stolen lamb at Snake Pass, west of Sheffield.

Just like the photos from Derwent reservoir of migrants with the corpse of a lamb last week.

This is the third world mentality we're importing en masse.



https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110312362651334346

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To be fair, my neighbors and I are banding together, thinking of putting in a root cellar.

Will I be taken away for hoarding?
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Nope, just forced to redistribute the food for the betterment of the community.

Sorry ant.
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Nope, just forced to redistribute the food for the betterment of the community.

Sorry ant.
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To be fair, my neighbors and I are banding together, thinking of putting in a root cellar.

Will I be taken away for hoarding?


Nope, just forced to redistribute the food for the betterment of the community.

Sorry ant.

Just remember…  grasshoppers are vegan. Ants eat everything, including grasshoppers.
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Muckraker and Michael Yon discuss the CCP, weaponized migration, famine, war, and more

Michael Yon is America's most experienced war correspondent. As a former Green Beret, Michael has experienced and documented some of the most extreme world events of our time.  

In April 2023, Muckraker and Michael Yon met in Panama to investigate the mass migration happening across the Darién Gap. The Darién Gap is the bridge of land that connects North and South America. It is a dangerous section of lawless jungle that thousands of migrants headed to the United States cross every day.  

At the end of our investigation, we found time to sit down and have a discussion about what we had seen in the Darién, how it relates to the world at large, and other related points of concern. This interview contains information relevant to all Americans.

https://www.muckraker.com/articles/michael-yon-interview/

Muckraker and Michael Yon discuss the CCP, weaponized migration, famine, war, and more



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Surprised nobody has posted this yet:

Global rice shortage is set to be the biggest in 20 years
Published Tue, Apr 18 20238:12 PM EDTUpdated Wed, Apr 19 20231:23 AM EDT
Lee Ying Shan
@LeeYingshan

Key Points:
   Rice production for 2023 is set to log its largest shortfall in two decades, according to Fitch Solutions.
   “At the global level, the most evident impact of the global rice deficit has been, and still is, decade-high rice prices,” Fitch Solutions’ commodities analyst Charles Hart told CNBC.
   There’s a strained supply of rice as a result of the ongoing war in Ukraine, as well as weather woes in rice-producing economies like China and Pakistan.

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Just the absurdity of this alone….

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/how-rice-is-hurting-the-planet/

Link Posted: 5/5/2023 7:05:35 AM EST
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Uh oh, Michael Yon is on InfoWars.    Confirmed:  This is all just one big conspiracy theory.

https://banned.video/watch?id=6454290406ad5506dd73dd8e

Link Posted: 5/5/2023 7:08:34 AM EST
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Burger King will close up to 400 stores by the end of the year - with two franchises already declaring bankruptcy - as fast food giant fails to keep up with fast-casual competition

- The company says underperforming stores will be the first to go as it announces a historically high number of closures
- One bust franchisee is set to shut 27 locations across seven states this year
- Chairman Patrick Doyle said the company will slash franchisees who aren't 'dedicated, enthusiastic operators'




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12047999/Burger-King-close-400-stores-end-2023-giant-fails-competition.html

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lol


About Half in U.S. Worry About Their Money's Safety in Banks

- 19% “very” and 29% “moderately” worried about safety of their money

- Level of worry similar to readings during the 2008 financial crisis

- Democrats, upper-income adults, college graduates less worried
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Worry About Banks Higher Among Republicans and Independents

Republicans, independents, middle- and lower-income adults, and those without a college degree are more worried than their counterparts about the safety of their money.

Whereas majorities of Republicans (55%) and independents (51%) say they are at least moderately worried, a 36% minority of Democrats are. Similarly, 54% of U.S. adults with no college degree are very or moderately worried, while 36% of college graduates are. About half of Americans with an annual household income under $100,000 express worry about their money, while 40% of those with higher incomes do.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/505439/half-worry-money-safety-banks.aspx

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https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/china/senator-chinese-organized-crime-outfit-set-sights-on-oklahoma/
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Well, that's not good.

From the article:  “We’re seeing issues in my state of Chinese nationals being shot execution-style in grow operations,” said U.S. Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.

That raised more questions than it answers.  Are the victims the illegally imported Chinese drug workers who pissed off the gang leader, or are they Chinese gangsters who pissed off Cleetus and Rufas from Podunk who didn't like the gangs putting off limits their favorite deer poaching land?  My guess is the former, as Cleetus would have just shot them from 600 yards away.
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Well, that's not good.

From the article:  “We’re seeing issues in my state of Chinese nationals being shot execution-style in grow operations,” said U.S. Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.

That raised more questions than it answers.  Are the victims the illegally imported Chinese drug workers who pissed off the gang leader, or are they Chinese gangsters who pissed off Cleetus and Rufas from Podunk who didn't like the gangs putting off limits their favorite deer poaching land?  My guess is the former, as Cleetus would have just shot them from 600 yards away.
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https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/china/senator-chinese-organized-crime-outfit-set-sights-on-oklahoma/

Well, that's not good.

From the article:  “We’re seeing issues in my state of Chinese nationals being shot execution-style in grow operations,” said U.S. Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla.

That raised more questions than it answers.  Are the victims the illegally imported Chinese drug workers who pissed off the gang leader, or are they Chinese gangsters who pissed off Cleetus and Rufas from Podunk who didn't like the gangs putting off limits their favorite deer poaching land?  My guess is the former, as Cleetus would have just shot them from 600 yards away.


Interesting.  My initial guess would be cartel activity to send a message.

4 dead at Oklahoma pot farm were 'executed', Chinese citizens



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Interesting.  My initial guess would be cartel activity to send a message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPL3xxsNY4


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I kind of remember this from 5 months ago.  I didn't think too much about it at the time.  I did not realize these were Chinese nationals.   I assumed they were methbillies getting crosswise with some Mexican cartels.  

Maybe they were rival illegal pot farm Chinese nationals. Who knows.  I used to have a friend at the OBN I could ask, but she retired a few years ago I think.
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I kind of remember this from 5 months ago.  I didn't think too much about it at the time.  I did not realize these were Chinese nationals.   I assumed they were methbillies getting crosswise with some Mexican cartels.  

Maybe they were rival illegal pot farm Chinese nationals. Who knows.  I used to have a friend at the OBN I could ask, but she retired a few years ago I think.
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Interesting.  My initial guess would be cartel activity to send a message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPL3xxsNY4



I kind of remember this from 5 months ago.  I didn't think too much about it at the time.  I did not realize these were Chinese nationals.   I assumed they were methbillies getting crosswise with some Mexican cartels.  

Maybe they were rival illegal pot farm Chinese nationals. Who knows.  I used to have a friend at the OBN I could ask, but she retired a few years ago I think.


I hear your demographics have changed dramatically in recent years.  I can’t remember the last time I was in or around OKC, but the stories I’ve been told by family members is it has change immensely since my last visit.

I still can’t believe Oklahoma went the marijuana industry route, even if it is labeled as medicinal.  I do remember East Oklahoma having a healthy underground farming industry back in the 1980’s though.




Link Posted: 5/5/2023 1:09:52 PM EST
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Interesting listen if you have the time.  

Topics cover all the bases, such as the Great Reset, Fourth Turning, food shortages, BRICS, food growing nations & their association to a global economy, war and what’s possibly behind the motivation, ChatGPT, other platforms of AI, UBI, CBDC, etc…





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I hear your demographics have changed dramatically in recent years.  I can’t remember the last time I was in or around OKC, but the stories I’ve been told by family members is it has change immensely since my last visit.

I still can’t believe Oklahoma went the marijuana industry route, even if it is labeled as medicinal.  I do remember East Oklahoma having a healthy underground farming industry back in the 1980’s though.


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Interesting.  My initial guess would be cartel activity to send a message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPL3xxsNY4



I kind of remember this from 5 months ago.  I didn't think too much about it at the time.  I did not realize these were Chinese nationals.   I assumed they were methbillies getting crosswise with some Mexican cartels.  

Maybe they were rival illegal pot farm Chinese nationals. Who knows.  I used to have a friend at the OBN I could ask, but she retired a few years ago I think.


I hear your demographics have changed dramatically in recent years.  I can’t remember the last time I was in or around OKC, but the stories I’ve been told by family members is it has change immensely since my last visit.

I still can’t believe Oklahoma went the marijuana industry route, even if it is labeled as medicinal.  I do remember East Oklahoma having a healthy underground farming industry back in the 1980’s though.




They pushed really hard for it to get the vote passed.

This year, we had another vote to legalize it for recreational use.  It failed by a large margin.  

I think people were fooled the first time into thinking it was going to be actually limited to medicinal use.  Instead, it is easy for anyone to get a MJ card and it is, for all intents and purposes, legal for everyone that wants it.  But the shock of seeing pot stores literally everywhere has opened people's eyes to how big this is.  I expect a push at some point to cut back on some of the abuse in how easy it is to get a card.  Even some of the users are a little disappointed.  A coworker's wife got the card and tried several products for her back pain.  Of course, it didn't work, so she let her card expire.  It is really only useful for a narrow range of maladies, but people are trying to use it for literally everything.  For things like seizures and chemo induced nausea, it is useful, and I am sympathetic to those who actually need it.

I am not sure what you mean by demographics.  I haven't really noticed much change in demographics in my area.  But then, I don't get around much anymore.  So I may may not be the person to ask.
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