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Posted: 11/7/2022 10:06:34 PM EDT
A friend sent me this image of a VX-4 zorching along the short runway at NAS Point Mugu during an airshow circa 1984.

Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:08:40 PM EDT
[#1]
That is cool.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:09:17 PM EDT
[#2]
I miss the Cold War.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:09:35 PM EDT
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Go Navy!!!
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:09:43 PM EDT
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Those were the days!
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:10:29 PM EDT
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Hot as fuck.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:11:42 PM EDT
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Awesome
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:11:46 PM EDT
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Started going to that air show in the 60’s.

Blue Angels in F-11’s.

I’ve had a hard on for airplanes ever since.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:13:15 PM EDT
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I win the powerball lottery and I’ll put an F-4 back in air shows.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:14:35 PM EDT
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Wood.
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Shit, I’ll buy an F14 from Iran
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Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:19:17 PM EDT
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‘like button’ Great photo!
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:21:32 PM EDT
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Dat Anhedral Doe!

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Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:22:12 PM EDT
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Once you go black...



Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:23:51 PM EDT
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Fine looking birds

Link Posted: 11/7/2022 10:24:10 PM EDT
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A friend sent me this image of a VX-4 zorching along the short runway at NAS Point Mugu during an airshow circa 1984.

https://www.vaq34.com/junk/VX-4_Aircraft_15_SV_F4_zorch.jpg
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Sweet pic, but the 1984 date seems odd: the F-4 has a white belly and what appear to be AIM-9Bs. If I had just seen the photo, I would've guessed late 60s or early 70s.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 11:07:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/7/2022 11:13:21 PM EDT
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Sweet pic, but the 1984 date seems odd: the F-4 has a white belly and what appear to be AIM-9Bs. If I had just seen the photo, I would've guessed late 60s or early 70s.
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A friend sent me this image of a VX-4 zorching along the short runway at NAS Point Mugu during an airshow circa 1984.

https://www.vaq34.com/junk/VX-4_Aircraft_15_SV_F4_zorch.jpg
Sweet pic, but the 1984 date seems odd: the F-4 has a white belly and what appear to be AIM-9Bs. If I had just seen the photo, I would've guessed late 60s or early 70s.


VX-4 kept their F-4s longer and in their own schemes, including some fairly colorful camos. Same with their F-14s, they kept higher-vis schemes for a good while even as the tac schemes became more standard, and they held onto their snazzy painted helmets for a long time as well through around '86 or '87.

VX-4's been high on my interests lately, I wanted something to go with a helmet and ended up with a mug from a pretty significant guy in the F-14 and Top Gun history:





Shared by the Naval Base Ventura Facebook page from the 1980 Point Mugu airshow, you can see an F-4 cockpit in the foreground and F-14s in the background.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 11:15:22 PM EDT
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I always thought the F4 Phantom was so cool looking. I remember as a teen watching the evening news about the Vietnam War.  There was always a clip of the Phantom.
Link Posted: 11/7/2022 11:29:19 PM EDT
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This looks to be same jet in 1981 at least, haven't found Vandy 5 from 1984 just yet but seems plausible she was still in that scheme

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The images she sent me were from her time with VX-4.
She was there from 1981 to 1985.
That plane does not have the bunny on the rudder, it does not have the aircraft side number (last 4 of the BUNO) in large numbers on the side and it has the stars and bar behind the cockpit.
At one time that plane had an experimental white paint scheme with a big bunny on the tail.
It was called "The White Bunny", that was in the late 70's.  
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 4:01:59 AM EDT
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How about an F-14?
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 4:04:17 AM EDT
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An F-4 with an SR-71.
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Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we choose
We'd fight and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way
La-la-la-da-da-da
La-la-la-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da, la-da-da-da-da
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 4:13:15 AM EDT
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A friend sent me this image of a VX-4 zorching along the short runway at NAS Point Mugu during an airshow circa 1984.

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Wasnt that the last year they did live fire demos at that airshow? Found it, it was 1981.

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Dat Anhedral Doe!

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Da Phantom II?  

She Sexy THICC...

(In before MidCap )

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 6:52:58 AM EDT
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That's like seeing a Mustang GT with a Lamborghini.
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Yup.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 7:46:26 AM EDT
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Straight up sex machine. Cue the horns. Get on up…
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 7:49:58 AM EDT
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I always thought the F4 Phantom was so cool looking. I remember as a teen watching the evening news about the Vietnam War.  There was always a clip of the Phantom.
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I had a class date to go be a F-4C WSO with the INANG in Ft. Wayne.

Turned it down because I wanted to be a pilot. That would have been a fun gig. Still sorta wish I’d done it.

F-4’s have always had a special place in my heart.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 7:51:59 AM EDT
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Sinister beauty, brute power, pronounced presence.

Link Posted: 11/8/2022 7:58:14 AM EDT
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"Put enough power behind it and you can make a brick fly"

That was from a book about Phantoms I read when I was a kid.
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"Put enough power behind it and you can make a brick fly"

That was from a book about Phantoms I read when I was a kid.
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AKA the F104 Design Philosophy
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 8:12:37 AM EDT
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How about this:



The story:The photo flight wasn’t officially sanctioned by the USAF, it was coordinated between the Blackbird flight crew, the pilot of Jeannie 69 and the crews of the two T-38 Talon chase aircraft. It meant the photo shoot had to be carried out while the Blackbird was flying it’s normal mission profile of a 450 knot climb out.

Wiley Sanders, owner of the modified North American P-51 Mustang "Jeannie 69" recalled:

"This "The Fastest Prop and The Fastest Jet" one-liner inspiration, this scheme-like challenge to even attempt this flight between diametrically different performance aircraft was typical of what we would have called a "brain-fart" idea in a fighter squadron. In a quick look at the SR-71 profile coming off Edwards AFB or Palmdale, we knew we would have to have a full-up race engine, with available race power of 120 to 125 inches manifold pressure in order to maintain formation flight with the 450 knot departing and climbing SR-71.”

In the end, Skip Holm, who was flying Jeannie 69, took off and loitered in the area around Palmdale. Once the Blackbird was airborne, Skip began his run in to formate off its wing. One of the T-38 chase planes out of Palmdale 'aborted' it’s mission about the time Skip arrived on scene and took its place on the radar screen. All the pilots were briefed, and it was done as the SR-71 was climbing out on its regular mission profile so there were just a couple minutes of Jeannie running at full-power to keep formation.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 8:37:10 AM EDT
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It is such a travesty that so many military aircraft are scrapped or used as targets without being offered for sale to the public anymore.

It's not the military's job to preserve historical artifacts but it's now much more difficult for others to do so.

Collecting military rifles from the last 50 years is going to be extremely challenging, even for museums with FFLs, with so many being deliberately destroyed.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 9:09:27 AM EDT
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It is such a travesty that so many military aircraft are scrapped or used as targets without being offered for sale to the public anymore.

It's not the military's job to preserve historical artifacts but it's now much more difficult for others to do so.

Collecting military rifles from the last 50 years is going to be extremely challenging, even for museums with FFLs, with so many being deliberately destroyed.
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I win the powerball lottery and I’ll put an F-4 back in air shows.

It is such a travesty that so many military aircraft are scrapped or used as targets without being offered for sale to the public anymore.

It's not the military's job to preserve historical artifacts but it's now much more difficult for others to do so.

Collecting military rifles from the last 50 years is going to be extremely challenging, even for museums with FFLs, with so many being deliberately destroyed.


Does the Collings Foundation no longer fly their Phantom at airshows?
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 9:11:33 AM EDT
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My dad and his GE crew testing nitrogen cooled exhaust nozzles

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Wow, people were so much thinner back then...
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 9:23:04 AM EDT
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I know a lot of people consider them ugly, but I think the Phantom is a beautiful plane.
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There will be a new one along for you shortly.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 9:38:47 AM EDT
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I think F4's used to purposely ride around the countryside on Sunday morning strafing church services in my area. No mistaking them when hearing them fly over.
Link Posted: 11/8/2022 9:42:14 AM EDT
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The F4 is positive proof that anything can fly if it has a big enough engine.  The amount of oil those pigs leaked was phenomenal.  You could always tell the F4 maintenance crews as they had oil stains all over their uniforms.
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Beautiful brute, for sure.

I'd LOVE to see the Greeks fly their F4s for as long as USAF is gonna fly their B-52s!



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Only a communist would think the F4 is ugly and no one cares what they think.

The Phantom was definitely a fierce looking jet.

Link Posted: 11/9/2022 4:48:59 AM EDT
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My dad was stationed with VX-4 from 63 to 67
Link Posted: 11/9/2022 7:00:21 AM EDT
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How about this:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/1a89543fde53cc36de7308d9827a1503/tumblr_n4eb4lj2do1rn8k76o1_500.jpg

https://preview.redd.it/fxgvkzyaauz81.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e85e033879091605bb47496875c4d09240dc4767
The story:The photo flight wasn’t officially sanctioned by the USAF, it was coordinated between the Blackbird flight crew, the pilot of Jeannie 69 and the crews of the two T-38 Talon chase aircraft. It meant the photo shoot had to be carried out while the Blackbird was flying it’s normal mission profile of a 450 knot climb out.

Wiley Sanders, owner of the modified North American P-51 Mustang "Jeannie 69" recalled:

"This "The Fastest Prop and The Fastest Jet" one-liner inspiration, this scheme-like challenge to even attempt this flight between diametrically different performance aircraft was typical of what we would have called a "brain-fart" idea in a fighter squadron. In a quick look at the SR-71 profile coming off Edwards AFB or Palmdale, we knew we would have to have a full-up race engine, with available race power of 120 to 125 inches manifold pressure in order to maintain formation flight with the 450 knot departing and climbing SR-71.”

In the end, Skip Holm, who was flying Jeannie 69, took off and loitered in the area around Palmdale. Once the Blackbird was airborne, Skip began his run in to formate off its wing. One of the T-38 chase planes out of Palmdale 'aborted' it’s mission about the time Skip arrived on scene and took its place on the radar screen. All the pilots were briefed, and it was done as the SR-71 was climbing out on its regular mission profile so there were just a couple minutes of Jeannie running at full-power to keep formation.
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That was pretty cool. Thanks for sharing the story, too.
Link Posted: 11/9/2022 7:02:01 AM EDT
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It's not beautiful. It's the flying equivalent of an NFL linebacker.
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