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6/29/2024 10:13:20 PM EDT
I had a USGI magazine that wouldn't fit in standard AR mag wells. Normal people toss defective mags. Me? I kept it in storage for 10 years and today decided to make it a fun project: an absurdly tiny flush mount Ruger American Ranch magazine. The end result holds 5 rounds.

Rough contours were done with an angle grinder. Finish work was done with a file. Cut the spring from 15 wraps to 3, and trim the follower center post to be as long as the tail.
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Bending the tabs is as simple as torch heating, then peening them over the baseplate. Cold bending will just snap them off. You can see that I forgot to include a front tab. Still works fine though.
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Homemade 5 vs factory 10, 20, & 30.
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And in the Ruger. It still sticks out a little bit. I could have gotten away with making it about 1/8" shorter, but I can now comfortably carry the rifle at its balance point.
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Total time was about 40 minutes.
6/29/2024 10:17:07 PM EDT
[#1]
That’s kinda awesome
6/29/2024 10:18:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Bravo!
6/29/2024 10:20:33 PM EDT
[#3]
neat
6/29/2024 10:34:34 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks guys! Next homebrew project for that gun will probably be iron sights. I haven't found an in-stock suppressor height option for the front.

I'll also add that if you put such a magazine in an AR, it will be very recessed.
6/29/2024 10:38:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Does it drop free easy enough? Think it might be worth doing a paracord loop like the early mag pull tabs to give something to pull on?
6/29/2024 10:39:21 PM EDT
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6/29/2024 10:41:22 PM EDT
[#7]
It does drop free easily from the Ruger. It was rather tight in an AR well, hence its 10 year exile.

Interestingly, it fits an AR fine now too. I probably crushed it a little in the vise.
6/29/2024 10:52:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Neat!

A subflush AR mag could be a good way to make a couple bucks at the range. "I bet you twenty bucks I can fire more than one round from this rifle that clearly has no mag inserted!"
6/30/2024 12:30:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Good job, op.
6/30/2024 12:36:28 AM EDT
[#10]
I had some old gi mags that where very tight in my mag wells. Literally just put them on the bench and hit them with my fist, fit fine after a hit or two.
6/30/2024 12:37:53 AM EDT
[#11]
I’m impressed
6/30/2024 1:02:12 AM EDT
[#12]
That turned out really nice!
6/30/2024 1:09:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Impressive
6/30/2024 9:27:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Neat!

A subflush AR mag could be a good way to make a couple bucks at the range. "I bet you twenty bucks I can fire more than one round from this rifle that clearly has no mag inserted!"
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Magnetospeed sold a 3 round mag with no mag catch - it sits on top of the mag catch.

ProMag makes a flush fit steel 5 & 10 rounder, both flush w/ the bottom of a stock AR magwell.

Thermold makes a 10 round mag and the wide floorplate is the over insertion stop.
6/30/2024 9:30:04 AM EDT
[#15]
Thats pretty cool.
6/30/2024 9:32:12 AM EDT
[#16]
Sweet. Nicely done.
6/30/2024 10:02:14 AM EDT
[#17]
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I had a USGI magazine that wouldn't fit in standard AR mag wells. Normal people toss defective mags. Me? I kept it in storage for 10 years and today decided to make it a fun project: an absurdly tiny flush mount Ruger American Ranch magazine. The end result holds 5 rounds.

Rough contours were done with an angle grinder. Finish work was done with a file. Cut the spring from 15 wraps to 3, and trim the follower center post to be as long as the tail.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/434195/IMG_5940_jpeg-3254004.JPG

Bending the tabs is as simple as torch heating, then peening them over the baseplate. Cold bending will just snap them off. You can see that I forgot to include a front tab. Still works fine though.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/434195/IMG_5939_jpeg-3254005.JPG

Homemade 5 vs factory 10, 20, & 30.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/434195/IMG_5938_jpeg-3254003.JPG

And in the Ruger. It still sticks out a little bit. I could have gotten away with making it about 1/8" shorter, but I can now comfortably carry the rifle at its balance point.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/434195/IMG_5941_jpeg-3254016.JPG

Total time was about 40 minutes.
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Krylon the lower half of the mag to match the stock?
6/30/2024 10:29:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Nice work, OP.
6/30/2024 10:31:29 AM EDT
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This is a Rustoleum house, sir.

but yes, the whole rifle will get paint once I finalize sights.
7/1/2024 7:54:28 AM EDT
[#20]
Went to the range yesterday for a little testing. Mag works fine if you cycle the bolt with vigor, and it works fine in ARs.

Slow cycling, it tends to bind. I suspect there is a little too much spring pressure. May have to cut off another coil.
7/1/2024 8:16:23 AM EDT
[#21]
Well ain't that something. A while ago I made some 5 round clips that would go perfectly with your 5 round mag.





Well it was 1 prototype. Works fine. I really should make more.
7/1/2024 8:37:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Good job.  

Can a curved 30 be converted to a straight 20?
7/1/2024 9:34:29 AM EDT
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Can a curved 30 be converted to a straight 20?
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You end up w/ a slightly curved 20 that will likely feed better than a straight 20 in undergassed situations.
7/1/2024 10:56:05 AM EDT
[#24]
That’s outstanding op. I need to attempt this with a couple of mags for my Grendel ranch. BTW awesome username and avatar
7/1/2024 11:03:47 AM EDT
[#25]
Damn you did a good job dude
7/1/2024 11:10:05 AM EDT
[#26]
Now you need to add a "pull" to it:

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you basically remove the innards from the paracord and tie a knot in each end and insert it in the base plate as you slide it closed.
7/1/2024 11:18:05 AM EDT
[#27]
I shall henceforth commence to gunshows, with thine influence upon thy perception of junk bin aluminum mags.
7/1/2024 11:24:22 AM EDT
[#28]
That's actually pretty cool you salvaged it.
7/1/2024 11:42:27 AM EDT
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You end up w/ a slightly curved 20 that will likely feed better than a straight 20 in undergassed situations.
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Thanks!
7/1/2024 1:11:05 PM EDT
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Thanks!


Or you could just buy some curved 20s new w/ the latest constant level follower.
7/1/2024 1:42:37 PM EDT
[#31]
I had a friend visiting from Israel in the early 2000's. At LGS he came across 5 rounders that looked just like the one you have made. He bought all that they had (15 or 20). He told me that this is a perfect gift for his son and his friends that served at IDF at a time. While of duty, they must carry their's  M4 with mags detached, and this little 5-rounder just hides in the magwell, giving them better chance if situation arises.
7/1/2024 2:13:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Dear diary,
  Today OP was cool.
7/1/2024 6:19:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Tag
7/1/2024 6:27:37 PM EDT
[#34]
That’s cool man. Good job.
7/1/2024 8:56:56 PM EDT
[#35]
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Well ain't that something. A while ago I made some 5 round clips that would go perfectly with your 5 round mag.

https://i.postimg.cc/Bbk0BQtM/20220627-185520.jpg



Well it was 1 prototype. Works fine. I really should make more.
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That's pretty awesome. I imagine that the stripper is roughly the same length as the spoon?

I have a sudden urge to mill the top off of the receiver, file in some stripper guides, and add a magazine disconnect.
7/1/2024 9:00:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Three full mags, and my swinging cod!
7/1/2024 9:02:02 PM EDT
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That's outstanding op. I need to attempt this with a couple of mags for my Grendel ranch. BTW awesome username and avatar
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Thank you! If you or anyone else wish to copy the method, here's another helpful detail:

After bending over the tabs, drive the floor plate back out (you might need a drift or punch) and file the rest of the body down a little bit further. Peening directly on the floor plate makes it absurdly tight, so filing a little bit more relief afterwards makes it able to be hand-disassembled again.
7/1/2024 11:34:34 PM EDT
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That's pretty awesome. I imagine that the stripper is roughly the same length as the spoon?

I have a sudden urge to mill the top off of the receiver, file in some stripper guides, and add a magazine disconnect.
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https://i.postimg.cc/Bbk0BQtM/20220627-185520.jpg



Well it was 1 prototype. Works fine. I really should make more.


That's pretty awesome. I imagine that the stripper is roughly the same length as the spoon?

I have a sudden urge to mill the top off of the receiver, file in some stripper guides, and add a magazine disconnect.


Buy one of these & mod it to fit:

https://cogburnarsenal.com/product/mini-14-clip-guide-582/
7/1/2024 11:41:35 PM EDT
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Does it drop free easy enough? Think it might be worth doing a paracord loop like the early mag pull tabs to give something to pull on?
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That’s what I was thinking.
7/1/2024 11:42:53 PM EDT
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That’s what I was thinking.
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That’s what I was thinking.


OP can probably push it out w/ his pinky through the open action.  Or load it through the open action and not have to remove it at all.  He's not walking point w/ the thing.

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