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Posted: 7/22/2023 2:58:54 PM EDT
https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/video/53066882/ash-fork-az-firefighter-said-boredom-retaliation-reasons-for-setting-fires


What a shitbag..
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 3:03:08 PM EDT
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I doubt he'll see much time outside of prison ever again.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 3:10:20 PM EDT
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If those fires got out of control there would have been serious issues.

I believe Ash Fork burned to the ground twice in its history.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 6:53:52 PM EDT
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How much time is this guy looking at..?
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 6:55:26 PM EDT
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Ohio, your move.
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He might get a light sentence due to being a Gubmint worker.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 6:59:06 PM EDT
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If those fires got out of control there would have been serious issues.

I believe Ash Fork burned to the ground twice in its history.
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Dozens of dollars in losses.

Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:05:43 PM EDT
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18 year old volunteer firefighter arrested for arson.  Can't say I'm shocked.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:10:02 PM EDT
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18 year old volunteer firefighter arrested for arson.  Can't say I'm shocked.
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Best part is that his name is “Nutter.”

Should’ve seen it coming.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:10:13 PM EDT
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Dozens of dollars in losses.

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Been to Ash Fork huh...lol
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:11:16 PM EDT
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Fucker should have burned his eyebrow
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:11:56 PM EDT
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Best part is that his name is “Nutter.”

Should’ve seen it coming.
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First name is Karson.. remove the K and we have Arson
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 7:13:17 PM EDT
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Dozens of dollars in losses.

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If those fires got out of control there would have been serious issues.

I believe Ash Fork burned to the ground twice in its history.

Dozens of dollars in losses.



Link Posted: 7/22/2023 8:09:48 PM EDT
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Firemen make the best pyromenz.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 8:12:39 PM EDT
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Half of the then-largest largest fire in the AZ's history, Rodeo-Chedeski, was due to arson from a firefighter.

Thankfully this guy's fires were all small.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:26:28 PM EDT
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Rodeo fire was started by a volunteer firefighter.. I was building bunkers at the goldwater range then..
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:33:34 PM EDT
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Unfortunately there seems to be a hell of a lot of idiotic volunteer firemen out there. Arson is a hobby for too many of them.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Volly firebug?

How odd
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:44:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2023 9:55:48 PM EDT
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The mugshot while wearing the FF tshirt is awesome.  


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Meme shit
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:10:02 PM EDT
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How odd
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If you wrote a script and named the volly firebug character K Arson Nutter, people would tell you it was too much.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:12:36 PM EDT
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Not enough.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:19:59 PM EDT
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Isolated incident.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:21:55 PM EDT
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Heat stress is a thing in AZ...



Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:27:18 PM EDT
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Sadly, this is not unprecedented.
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Ash Fork ain’t Humphreys but it’s cooler than Phoenix.

It is the kind of town where “age of consent” is a common topic at family reunions and that’s probably where Karson’s troubles started.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:28:49 PM EDT
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Rodeo fire was started by a volunteer firefighter.. I was building bunkers at the goldwater range then..
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Paid part-time seasonal firefighter, not volunteer -- Leonard Greff set the Rodeo fire (which was the second fire he set that day)
in hopes of getting called in and paid to put it out.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:29:37 PM EDT
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Paid part-time seasonal firefighter, not volunteer -- Leonard Greff set the Rodeo fire (which was the second fire he set that day)
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Wasn’t that down by Whiteriver?
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 11:37:36 PM EDT
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Close, he was from Cibecue just a few miles to the west of Whiteriver, and I think the area he started the fire was
closer to Whiteriver. He started two fires, the first one got put out and the second one turned into Rodeo.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 11:39:16 PM EDT
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Crazies just like in the movies...

Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:20:32 AM EDT
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Damn...lol
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:24:31 AM EDT
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I go to a Legion post and we were just discussing this, seems he really was into going Gung ho as far as fire fighting classes, they took him up in a plane to put out fires and the whole 9 yards.. kid is fucked now..sad really
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:32:06 PM EDT
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I just realized, he hit the Mobil station, not once, but twice.
That's the best place in Ash Fork for vehicle repairs, or at least, it was.
I hope they can get it opened again, but I suspect there will be little to no interest in it.

Jay
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:39:21 PM EDT
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I just realized, he hit the Mobil station, not once, but twice.
That's the best place in Ash Fork for vehicle repairs, or at least, it was.
I hope they can get it opened again, but I suspect there will be little to no interest in it.

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It will never open again. 100% loss and Ash Fork is building 2 huge truck stops.
It's 400 miles from LA to Ash Fork, the grade to Williams is steep so these truckstops will be crucial for electric trucks to recharge before going up the mountain.

*** evidently he worked at that mobil station. May have met him, I think I'd remember that eyebrow if I did though..
I live between Williams and Flagstaff and we go to prescott a few times a month, used to stop at that mobil for gas often.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:49:16 PM EDT
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There have been many wannabe/punks that set fires but eventually get caught. I have seen a couple in my area alone.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:56:40 PM EDT
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Ash Fork ain’t Humphreys but it’s cooler than Phoenix.

It is the kind of town where “age of consent” is a common topic at family reunions and that’s probably where Karson’s troubles started.
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@fightinghellfish
You can tell by that Cro-Magnon appearance your assessment of that dude is likely accurate.  Our place north of Payson is rife with that kinda look.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 2:11:30 PM EDT
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Kid looks like Sen.Fetterman's son.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 2:14:30 PM EDT
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Meh, our firemen like rape, not arson….
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 2:38:26 PM EDT
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Lol.

He worked at the gas station that he burned down.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 3:36:48 PM EDT
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Lol.

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Take that gas pumper
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 3:38:38 PM EDT
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@fightinghellfish
You can tell by that Cro-Magnon appearance your assessment of that dude is likely accurate.  Our place north of Payson is rife with that kinda look.
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Pfftt.. anything below 6700' and the inbred features are real apparent..lol
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 3:41:51 PM EDT
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It will never open again. 100% loss and Ash Fork is building 2 huge truck stops.
It's 400 miles from LA to Ash Fork, the grade to Williams is steep so these truckstops will be crucial for electric trucks to recharge before going up the mountain.

*** evidently he worked at that mobil station. May have met him, I think I'd remember that eyebrow if I did though..
I live between Williams and Flagstaff and we go to prescott a few times a month, used to stop at that mobil for gas often.
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I worked the High Line for a long time. I am quite familiar with the Ash Fork area.

They've been talking about building new truck stops in Ash Fork, and approving truck stop projects since Ted's shut down back in 2000, which truth be told, was a god send.
I'll believe it when I see the completed project, but if the past is any indication of the future, it will not happen in my life time.

And if it does happen, let the jake brake, truck noise, truck traffic complaint hilarity ensue, and oh yes, Ash Fork will complain about it.

They'd be better off building a new one at Monte Carlo, but there isn't enough water there.
Plus, I doubt Coconino would approve.
 
Jay
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 3:47:17 PM EDT
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IMO most of the fires we are seeing this season are deliberately set.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 4:04:40 PM EDT
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I worked the High Line for a long time. I am quite familiar with the Ash Fork area.

They've been talking about building new truck stops in Ash Fork, and approving truck stop projects since Ted's shut down back in 2000, which truth be told, was a god send.
I'll believe it when I see the completed project, but if the past is any indication of the future, it will not happen in my life time.

And if it does happen, let the jake brake, truck noise, truck traffic complaint hilarity ensue, and oh yes, Ash Fork will complain about it.

They'd be better off building a new one at Monte Carlo, but there isn't enough water there.
Plus, I doubt Coconino would approve.
 
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A pilot is being built on Ted's right now.. almost completed.
On the west end of town they are moving a mountain to build the largest TA in the state.. just drove past there going to Havasu a few days ago

It's happening man. Soon Ash Fork will be full of fast food joints, service centers and other commercial sites that will go with the growth.

@AZCOP
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 4:07:06 PM EDT
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Some men love seeing the world burn
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 4:11:10 PM EDT
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The BIA crews used to call those Christmas fires

Link Posted: 7/23/2023 4:27:29 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say most, but it's certainly a big component of the problem.

I know for sure there's a serial arsonist(s) at work in my general area that seems to be trying
to get areas where the forest has some development (cabins and homes) to burn, and that the forestry
people (both fed and state) are super aware of it but seem to be making an effort to conceal it --
I'm guessing due to wanting to catch whoever it is without tipping them off.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 6:49:24 PM EDT
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Not all,  but I have run across a fair share of volleys who are completely ate up.  I’m talking tons of firefighter ink and enough lights on their POV to light up the White House Christmas tree.
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