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Posted: 12/3/2018 5:31:37 PM EDT
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That entire area around the mall pretty much died economically. Before the mall died they also lost a Toys R Us a decade ago. Children's Palace. Handy Andy. Target. Of course the Social Security Administration opened an office there. Leave it to the .gov to build an outpost in an economic wasteland. Now granny has to be strapped and rollin' deep with the War Boys just to get her SS card replaced(OK, that's a little bit of an exaggeration).
Sadly, Chapel Hill Mall up the road in Cuyahoga Falls is quickly following Rolling Acres into the dustbin. It's sad as that was my favorite mall as a kid. The last time I was there some dude was trying to sell me his self produced rap album(No joke). I'm a white dude that looks like an extra on the set of History Channel's Vikings. I'm not interested in rap albums especially homemade schlock. On top of that they added these rentable animal scooters. Couldn't walk in a straight because little a'holes were flying all over the place and forcing you to dodge them. Then there were cries of racism a few years ago because they tried to shutdown metro bus access. The mall claimed the buses were damaging the asphalt or something like that but they were hammered with accusations they where trying to drive low income shoppers away or something along those lines. Thankfully, Summit Mall underwent a bit of a renaissance. I hope it stays that way but with the death of neighboring malls, who knows what will happen. I imagine the doctors, lawyers, and secret millionaires of Bath and Copley won't tolerate shenanigans in their backyards, figuratively speaking. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 6:47:49 PM EDT
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The old Madison Square Mall around here went the same way: Rich and Vibrant teenagers turned off real paying customers. A death spiral once it starts. It's all gone now; being replaced with some development. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 7:11:17 PM EDT
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Speaking of Cleveland, I remember when Tower City Mall was fucking awesome. Last time I was there it was like being on the set of a Lil Wayne video  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Randall "Dark" Mall was never intended to be a success, it was erected as a "black empowerment zone". It didn't take long for it to become the auto theft capital of greater Cleveland. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 7:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thankfully, Summit Mall underwent a bit of a renaissance. I hope it stays that way but with the death of neighboring malls, who knows what will happen. I imagine the doctors, lawyers, and secret millionaires of Bath and Copley won't tolerate shenanigans in their backyards, figuratively speaking. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 7:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never have, never will... Fairlawn PD handles that bullshit pretty quickly. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is filmed at Gwinnett Place Mall. It was THE mall to go to in the 80's. I watched it being built. Spent many a day at the arcade there. Chik-fil-a was the hangout. Getting laid in the parking lot. Midnight movies at the theater. It was a great place be a kid.
As the white flight has has continued up I85, it is now run down with asian and hispanic stores filling the void. I have not been inside since I bought my craftsman lawn mower in the early 90s. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:18:36 PM EDT
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I stopped going to malls because of the people that for some reason made them their haunts. It's the same group of people that forced the big movie theaters to pay off duty cops and gamewardens to park their cars on the sidewalk and stand out front. I guess if I wanted to hear hoots and hollers, I would have gone to the zoo. https://i.imgur.com/5qlqBW1.jpg OUR SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:30:35 PM EDT
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Randall Park Mall was a great place to get phone #'s in my high school years. Sad to see what happened to it.
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:36:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:38:51 PM EDT
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Millcreek Mall Erie PA footprint. What round? 
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:39:33 PM EDT
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We used to call that one Rolling Africans, it was a place you didn't want to be after dark, been to both malls in the 80's even then they had lost their shine and were showing signs of decline..
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Posted: 12/3/2018 8:41:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My hometown mall. Many hours spent there in the 80s
Had the inside mall movie theater too, Star Trek II I remember seeing there! |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 9:06:07 PM EDT
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Now where is everybody going to go when the Zombies arrive? |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 10:55:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:00:45 PM EDT
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I remember them building Randall Park Mall.
Feeling old now. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:27:41 PM EDT
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There was a mall in Joliet IL, which was overrun by orcs and killed. It's now a Menard's and a WalMart with lots of parking. The gang bangers moved in, destroyed the mall, attacked seniors using it as exercise, and drove it right out of business.
Another mall in Bourbonnais is dying quickly. Sears is gone, Carson's is gone, the other anchor stores are gone, only Penney's is holding on barely. The outlying stores around the mall are still doing okay, Best Buy and the like, but the mall is Dead Man Walking. This one wasn't gang bangers, though. It seems to be a sign of the times, malls are a thing of the past. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:43:01 PM EDT
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Those malls were something else weren't they... I grew up in the 70's and 80's and my mother was really into shopping there for back to school and Christmas, so I spent alotta time in them as a kid.... around 1979-1981 we visited my mom's aunt in California a couple times, did all the Cali things, Universal, Disneyland, Knots, the Queen Elizabeth... and the malls
 ... the malls they had at that time were like the Taj mahal... unbelievable and super deluxe. The toy stores were incredible... I remember one had those metal car models that were like exact replicas, and quite expensive for the time, but amazing looking, and they also had a wall of toy guns that looked absolutely real... I bought a .38 snubby with a silencer you could attach(cap gun) ... thing was sweet... and the arcades... place was just a palace for a 10-ish year old kid..
we moved way out into the country when I was in middle/high school and I never had much use for the mall once I was outta the house so I didn't really witness the decline firsthand... but I'm sure a lot here are familiar with the active shooter situation at the Tacoma Mall several years ago as it was national news... that was the one I grew up in.. wouldn't touch that dump with Hilary's dick now 
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pshh, they all went to Easton. See my post above. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:45:31 PM EDT
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Malls here have been doing well.
Just went to the Apple Store at Haywood Mall in Greenville SC. Was around lunch, food court was packed, Apple Store packed, parking lot mostly packed also. I did note some empty store spots, like the Kays Jewelers where I once bought my wife's engagement diamond. The local mall here is small but stays afloat. Helps to have a Chick-Fil-A in your parking lot. 
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:48:48 PM EDT
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In my town, we have two larger malls. The one closest to me is dead as dead. It's the older of the two malls. I'd say that at least 75 percent is vacant. JC Penney's closed last year. There is still a Belk. The only restaurants left are K&W and Five Guys. Applebee's and Chic fil A are gone. When I was a kid, there was a tally a food court there. It makes no sense. The location is great and I would go there first for everything.
Now, on the other hand, the biggest mall near the airport is completely stuffed with strip malls all around. There is no more real estate available for growth, so they tear up sections of the parking lot to put in restaurants. In a strip mall within a half mile of it, there is a Sam's Club and now a BJ's at another strip mall a quarter mile away. Now, they are going to build a Costco on the other side of the Interstate that borders the mall. We will now have 3 price clubs within a mile of each other. That mall has it's own gravity. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:53:30 PM EDT
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The Mills will die when Cabelas lease is up. Every employee there said that the store is shuttering when that thing is up. Now I would expect that timeline to move up since Bass Pro bought Cabelas. No need to have the big St Chuck Bass Pro and a decrepit Cabelas 2 miles away. Chesterfield Mall is dead. Only things there were the Cheesecake Factory, theater. They lost the American Girl store that my niece loved to go to. Some days I think there are more cars at Trader Joes than at that mall. The outlet malls in chesterfield are booming. They've been a retail Stuxnet for the St Louis malls. They don't have Metrolink going to them or bus access so they're relatively safe from Charlie infiltrators. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Mills had about 3 or 4 years before the decline accelerated. Stores were in constant turn over from the beginning. Someone had a gun shop there for a while. Chesterfield Mall is dead. Only things there were the Cheesecake Factory, theater. They lost the American Girl store that my niece loved to go to. Some days I think there are more cars at Trader Joes than at that mall. The outlet malls in chesterfield are booming. They've been a retail Stuxnet for the St Louis malls. They don't have Metrolink going to them or bus access so they're relatively safe from Charlie infiltrators. There's a multi story mall (don't recall the name) a block or so from the convention center down town that was a bust from the day it opened. It looked good on the outside, very modern and upscale. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:54:00 PM EDT
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The malls that I hung out in as a teen are still going strong. They managed to keep the riffraff out though.
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:55:58 PM EDT
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Now where is everybody going to go when the Zombies arrive? 
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:56:36 PM EDT
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There are a few malls here in Utah that are so packed it is impossible to find a parking space during the holiday season and they are very busy on regular weekends as well. Not sure how they are during the weekdays as it's a long drive and I can't get away from work.
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:56:44 PM EDT
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Adding a Metro Link stop killed the Saint Louis Mills. Went from 200 shops, 8 anchors and dozen satellite retailers to a deserted post apocalyptic ghost town virtually overnight. The shoot out in the food court was the final nail in its coffin. When you bring the ghetto in the money goes somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Bannister Mall in Kansas City was an interesting one. My wife and I got to watch it from birth to death and eventual destruction. I once read someone's Doctoral thesis hypothesizing that it's demise was caused by extending the bus lines which allowed the Inner City Yutes to go there. By the end they had prisonish guard towers in the parking lot. Don't know how that guy was ever able to write a thesis like that, but I looked him up and he was awarded a degree. |
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Posted: 12/3/2018 11:58:40 PM EDT
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Jamestown mall near Saint Louis? If that’s the one you’re referring to it was a failure from day one. It was built in anticipation of growth in that area that never happened. Many Saint Louis residents had to drive past two or three other malls to get there which obviously made no sense. Then the surrounding area got rich and vibrant which finally killed it off. We used to go to the theater there nearly every weekend back in high school. I think the last time I went there was to see Signs when it came out which also happened to be the opening weekend of Barbershop. Took one look around the lobby and never went back. It’s caving in on itself now and is likely beyond restoration at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who went to Cinderella City in Denver? I believe that is the largest mall I have entered. After 3 decades of moving deck chairs, the St. Ann mall was leveled. There's a Menards there now. The Jamestown mall is in its final stages. The locals are still trying to get it rebooted, and the property simply declined further the longer they screw around putting off the inevitable. St. Ann was the victim of general ghetto expansion, Jamestown the victim of public transport and ghetto import. If that’s the one you’re referring to it was a failure from day one. It was built in anticipation of growth in that area that never happened. Many Saint Louis residents had to drive past two or three other malls to get there which obviously made no sense. Then the surrounding area got rich and vibrant which finally killed it off. We used to go to the theater there nearly every weekend back in high school. I think the last time I went there was to see Signs when it came out which also happened to be the opening weekend of Barbershop. Took one look around the lobby and never went back. It’s caving in on itself now and is likely beyond restoration at this point. When I first moved here in the early 80's it was doing okay, although I mostly went there for a movie. But you're right, that was not a great location. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:06:20 AM EDT
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The problem is the real estate isn't valuable anymore. There's nothing to start over with. It's a shithole. Nobody that has money will go there to spend it and nobody that works for money will go there to make it. Why go to Akrodishu when you can drive an extra 10-15 minutes and not have to deal with the riff raff? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The best hope for these dinosaurs? Have some damn gun guys buy them. Indoor range, airsoft course, paintball courses, shoot houses, RC tracks, quadcopter racing courses, go cart tracks etc. Turn the HVAC off, add ventilation, make that space useful again. I still wouldn't live in the inner city even if the streets were paved with gold and the utilities were free. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:07:45 AM EDT
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I find abandoned places fascinating for some reason. I'm not sure why. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:28:22 AM EDT
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Loved the mall as a kid in the ‘80’s, we had Orland Square Mall and my brother and I would run up and down the long ramp that was in the middle of the court. There were about three toy stores there plus a Hermans sports store that sold guns if I remember correctly.
Also nearby was Chicago Ridge which was fun for the teenage years as it had an Aladdin’s Castle arcade and was the hangout for the headbangers ball type crowd. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:38:44 AM EDT
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I'm surprised all of Ohio isn't abandoned. Cool vid OP. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 1:32:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2018 1:34:31 AM EDT
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Went to the Irvine Spectrum tonight. Think it will be around for awhile.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 8:34:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryScrolling through his channel, he has a video on Rolling Acres mall.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 9:16:52 AM EDT
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That's the mall. When I first moved here in the early 80's it was doing okay, although I mostly went there for a movie. But you're right, that was not a great location. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who went to Cinderella City in Denver? I believe that is the largest mall I have entered. After 3 decades of moving deck chairs, the St. Ann mall was leveled. There's a Menards there now. The Jamestown mall is in its final stages. The locals are still trying to get it rebooted, and the property simply declined further the longer they screw around putting off the inevitable. St. Ann was the victim of general ghetto expansion, Jamestown the victim of public transport and ghetto import. If that’s the one you’re referring to it was a failure from day one. It was built in anticipation of growth in that area that never happened. Many Saint Louis residents had to drive past two or three other malls to get there which obviously made no sense. Then the surrounding area got rich and vibrant which finally killed it off. We used to go to the theater there nearly every weekend back in high school. I think the last time I went there was to see Signs when it came out which also happened to be the opening weekend of Barbershop. Took one look around the lobby and never went back. It’s caving in on itself now and is likely beyond restoration at this point. When I first moved here in the early 80's it was doing okay, although I mostly went there for a movie. But you're right, that was not a great location. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 9:26:19 AM EDT
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How's Westport Plaza? It was pretty nice when I used to go, but that was a long time ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who went to Cinderella City in Denver? I believe that is the largest mall I have entered. After 3 decades of moving deck chairs, the St. Ann mall was leveled. There's a Menards there now. The Jamestown mall is in its final stages. The locals are still trying to get it rebooted, and the property simply declined further the longer they screw around putting off the inevitable. St. Ann was the victim of general ghetto expansion, Jamestown the victim of public transport and ghetto import. If that’s the one you’re referring to it was a failure from day one. It was built in anticipation of growth in that area that never happened. Many Saint Louis residents had to drive past two or three other malls to get there which obviously made no sense. Then the surrounding area got rich and vibrant which finally killed it off. We used to go to the theater there nearly every weekend back in high school. I think the last time I went there was to see Signs when it came out which also happened to be the opening weekend of Barbershop. Took one look around the lobby and never went back. It’s caving in on itself now and is likely beyond restoration at this point. When I first moved here in the early 80's it was doing okay, although I mostly went there for a movie. But you're right, that was not a great location. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 9:43:30 AM EDT
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A few of the malls in NoVA have been renovated recently (Springfield, for example) and are doing just fine. Some are still in slow decline (Landmark).
Potomac Mills is in great shape and always crowded. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 11:45:16 AM EDT
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Rolling afros mall. One of my friends was mugged there. Used to like going to Randall Mall when I was younger, but it too was built in the ghetto. That was the mall we avoided, and drove further to get to a good one for. I forgot exactly why until just now. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:02:08 PM EDT
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There are no major abandoned malls in my area, but the ones that exist have either gone super upscale with lots of money being poured into them, or they're going downhill fast.
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Posted: 12/4/2018 12:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Scrolling through his channel, he has a video on Rolling Acres mall. 
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Posted: 12/4/2018 9:26:19 PM EDT
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Ohio peeps, how is the South Park Mall in Strongsville now?
It seemed pretty nice the last time I was there but that was 6 years ago. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 11:05:12 PM EDT
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Loved the mall as a kid in the ‘80’s, we had Orland Square Mall and my brother and I would run up and down the long ramp that was in the middle of the court. There were about three toy stores there plus a Hermans sports store that sold guns if I remember correctly. Also nearby was Chicago Ridge which was fun for the teenage years as it had an Aladdin’s Castle arcade and was the hangout for the headbangers ball type crowd. The entire Orland area is super crowded with stores, so maybe it will hold on for a while yet. |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 11:53:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2018 12:11:05 AM EDT
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Our Largest Mall got an attached Casino put in and like clockwork it got enriched and now there is close to half-dozen county cops dedicated to that Mall every day-night cycle.
Malls are going by the wayside in favor of open-air concepts that sociologically minimizes animal traffic and conflict A++++ 
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Posted: 12/5/2018 12:14:16 AM EDT
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Went to the Irvine Spectrum tonight. Think it will be around for awhile. Hell, Westfield UTC in San Diego and South Coast Plaza in OC both just lost their Sears, and didn't even blink. Hell, UTC didn't even really look for a new tenant, just fired up the excavators and tore that bitch down to build more boutiques. Probably one of the few malls out there that is going to be better off after losing an anchor tenant. And the other thing is, most lower income areas are primarily hispanic. They really don't bring crime with them or drive off customers. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 10:17:17 AM EDT
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Lol. Most SoCal malls are thriving. Many are in upscale areas, and there is a distinct lack of hoodrats. Hell, Westfield UTC in San Diego and South Coast Plaza in OC both just lost their Sears, and didn't even blink. Hell, UTC didn't even really look for a new tenant, just fired up the excavators and tore that bitch down to build more boutiques. Probably one of the few malls out there that is going to be better off after losing an anchor tenant. And the other thing is, most lower income areas are primarily hispanic. They really don't bring crime with them or drive off customers. |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 10:21:08 AM EDT
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They could host indoor Drone racing at these malls that are still structurally sound. Not so much about the crowd but rather the broadcasting.
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Posted: 12/5/2018 10:28:42 AM EDT
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You mention SoCal malls, and San Diego specifically. How is Horton Plaza doing? I was there when it was brand new, and saw it declining a couple of decades later. Is it on its way back up? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol. Most SoCal malls are thriving. Many are in upscale areas, and there is a distinct lack of hoodrats. Hell, Westfield UTC in San Diego and South Coast Plaza in OC both just lost their Sears, and didn't even blink. Hell, UTC didn't even really look for a new tenant, just fired up the excavators and tore that bitch down to build more boutiques. Probably one of the few malls out there that is going to be better off after losing an anchor tenant. And the other thing is, most lower income areas are primarily hispanic. They really don't bring crime with them or drive off customers. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8s2wfNaiuDg But most of the other ones are doing very well, Westfield North county, Carlsbad outlets, Las Americas Outlets at the border, Fashion Valley, Mission Valley, UTC |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 11:30:38 AM EDT
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Shutting down Redstone Arsenal as a major training center (the Missile and Munitions Center and School) helped kill it as well, it used to be quick and easy to get to from base housing.  ), they seem to have a handle on not letting the feral Rich and Vibrant types get out of control.
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Posted: 12/5/2018 2:29:05 PM EDT
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Funny you mention it, Horton Plaza is not doing great. https://youtube.com/watch?v=8s2wfNaiuDg But most of the other ones are doing very well, Westfield North county, Carlsbad outlets, Las Americas Outlets at the border, Fashion Valley, Mission Valley, UTC |
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Posted: 12/5/2018 3:03:36 PM EDT
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If you live in Texas, you expect the heat. Our winters are short and mild. With these large open shopping areas, there isn’t a lot of strolling from store to store. People go to eat, maybe pick something up at a store and then head to some other form of entertainment. They are a substitute for the old downtowns of yesteryear. What we really see going in are mixed use developments. Multistory buildings with ground floor retail and residences above that. It is designed for strolling as people, lots of them, live there. They also have concerts and other activities. They are also not on mass transit lines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Outdoor malls suck if you live somewhere that has seasons. With these large open shopping areas, there isn’t a lot of strolling from store to store. People go to eat, maybe pick something up at a store and then head to some other form of entertainment. They are a substitute for the old downtowns of yesteryear. What we really see going in are mixed use developments. Multistory buildings with ground floor retail and residences above that. It is designed for strolling as people, lots of them, live there. They also have concerts and other activities. They are also not on mass transit lines. |
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