This is why I asked the Hive Mind. Haven't had time to follow this whole thread.

Ha I saw the Sam Hyde photo several times when googling pictures of this kid, a couple days ago.

Moms Demand Action and Students Demand Action

Ah yes Shannon Watts.

Fucking entitled cunt of the highest order.

If the child has a history of violence or intent to violence logic states YOU DONT GIVE THEM A FUCKING GUN!!!!

That's not even gun control it's common fucking sense.

Smart call.
Many accounts of people who should fucking know better are taking whatever their idiot uncle shared on Facebook as gospel. Not uncommon, but embarrassing nonetheless.

Critical thinking goes out the window in high emotion events, same as any scam persuasion technique.

That investigation was closed as unsubstantiated; meaning they couldn't prove that the kid actually made the threatening post.

Have you thought about this for 2 seconds?  Do you want to be able to be arrested and charged for a post somebody made on the internet using your name?

Without it being considered harassment.

Apparently a recording surfaced of the dad asking Colt about the incident. It was played on the radio a few minutes ago but I couldn't hear it very well. The reporter indicated that audio was part of what led to the charges against the father. No idea how that came to be or how it was found.

Half the people here say the post was true, but the investigators couldn’t have possibly known it was true, but the dad still should have known it was true.

Edit: unless it was obvious the kid posted it and the dad was blatantly stonewalling, I don’t see how you can blame the dad but not the investigators.

Eventually semi-auto rifles will be banned as well as high cap magazines.

Trouble is there's millions of rifles and tens of millions of magazines.

I wonder how the government will deal with that.

The organization of militant female sex addicts.

Georgia school shooter's father breaks down in court - as gunman learns if he'll face death penalty and family's dark past is revealed



The father of Georgia school shooter Colt Gray sobbed and rocked back and forth during his first appearance at Barrow County Superior Court on Friday.

Colin Gray's hearing took place right after his 14-year-old son Colt learned that, as a minor, he won't face the death penalty for killing four people at Apalachee High School in Winder, outside Atlanta, on Wednesday.

The teen appeared in person in shackles, dressed in a green t-shirt and grey sweat pants. He kept his head down, with his hair covering his face, and spoke softly only to Judge Mingledorff, replying ‘yes sir’ when asked to confirm his name.

Meanwhile his  father, Colin Gray, 54, cried as he appeared shortly after his son in the same courtroom, charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two of second degree murder and eight of cruelty to children.

Colin Gray shuffled in wearing a prison-issued striped shirt and tracksuit, in shackles like his son. He stated his name in a croaky voice, confirming his age, and that he was able to read and write.




He told the court he completed education up until 11th Grade GED, nodding along to proceedings as they took place.

The distraught father began rocking after Judge Mingledorff told him the maximum sentences that he could receive, and is expected to appear in court on December 4.

Victims' family members stared at him throughout the hearing while he kept his head down and avoided eye contact with anyone but the judge.

Dozens of emotional family members packed the courtroom for both Grays first appearances, with some visibly crying before the hearing even began. Some wore sunglasses to cover their faces, and were supported by detectives in the court room.

Family members for both father and son did not appear to be supporting them in the courtroom.

Judge Mingledorff advised the elder Gray that he could face up to 30 years in prison for each felony murder count, 10 years for each involuntary manslaughter charges and cruelty to children – the maximum totaling 180 years.



Colt Gray's attorney did not request bond for the teenager.

The teen looked down at his feet as he entered the court, staring straight at the judge as he spoke during the short 8-minute hearing.

Judge Mingledorff brought Gray back in to correct a statement he made, telling him: ‘I wanted to make it clear to you that the penalty does not include death. It includes life without the possibility of parole or with the possibility of parole.’

A 2005 Supreme Court decision forbids the execution of offenders who were under the age of 18 when their crimes were committed.

The teen’s father was charged Thursday in connection with the shooting, including with counts of involuntary manslaughter and second-degree murder, Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey.

'His charges are directly connected with the actions of his son and allowing him to possess a weapon,' Hosey said.



Colt Gray was arrested on Wednesday minutes after authorities say he opened fire on students and teachers, killing four. Colt reportedly told police 'I did it' when read his Miranda rights.

Public records show that Gray's mother, Marcee Gray, has a criminal record dating back to 2007 and spent time in jail as recently as this past April and was banned from contacting father Colin without a third party intermediary.

Marcee, 43, has a record across four Georgia counties and includes drug use, domestic violence and property damage, as well as civil claims of fraud.

The family home was raided on Wednesday afternoon, with FBI investigators seizing firearms and evidence.

Neighbors saw Colin return to the family home on Wednesday evening, though it is unclear if he handed himself into authorities.

A neighbor told DailyMail.com that they were 'terrified' following the new charges, adding that the family had 'kept themselves to themselves' and not integrated with the community in their two years at the property.

The teen denied threatening to carry out a school shooting when authorities interviewed him last year about a menacing post on social media, according to a sheriff’s report obtained Thursday.

Conflicting evidence on the post’s origin left investigators unable to arrest anyone, the report said. Jackson County Sheriff Janis Mangum said she reviewed the report from May 2023 and found nothing that would have justified bringing charges at the time.




The teen was interviewed after the sheriff received a tip from the FBI that Gray, then 13, 'had possibly threatened to shoot up a middle school tomorrow.' The threat was made on Discord, a social media platform popular with video gamers, according to the sheriff's office incident report.

The FBI's tip pointed to a Discord account associated with an email address linked to Colt Gray, the report said. But the boy said 'he would never say such a thing, even in a joking manner,' according to the investigator's report.

The interview transcript quotes the teen as saying: 'I promise I would never say something where ...' with the rest of that denial listed as inaudible.

The investigator wrote that no arrests were made because of 'inconsistent information' on the Discord account, which had profile information in Russian and a digital evidence trail indicating it had been accessed in different Georgia cities as well as Buffalo, New York.


Jackson County Sheriff Janis Mangum said she reviewed the report from May 2023 and found nothing that would have justified bringing charges at the time.

'We did not drop the ball at all on this,' Mangum told The Associated Press in an interview. 'We did all we could do with what we had at the time.'

The Discord account had a user name written in Russian, and the translation of the letters spelled out the name Lanza, referencing Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary school tragedy, officers said.

Gray denied he was the author of the threats, telling police he'd shut down his Discord after being repeatedly hacked. He expressed concerns that someone would make those accusations about him.

'He knows the seriousness of weapons and what they can do, and how to use them and not use them,' the father, Colin Gray, said according to a transcript obtained from the sheriff's office.

The sheriff's investigators closed the case after being unable to substantiate that either Gray was connected to the Discord account, and did not find grounds to seek the needed court order to confiscate the family's guns, according to police reports released by the sheriff's office on Thursday.

The boy reportedly had an obsession with other infamous school shooters such as Parkland, Florida killer Nikolas Cruz.


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Couldn’t prove doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

The FBI coming around would be a huge red flag to normal people. In addition the kid was apparently very disturbed due to a terrible upbringing.

Dad should have known better, if not he is too stupid and irresponsible to be free in society.

Cops couldn’t prove shit, so happy birthday my unstable son, here’s an AR-15!

Somehow I doubt that the “there was no indication little colt would do this!” defense will hold up. I could be wrong.

My assumption is that when LE switched from checking off a box because someone made a call to doing a real investigation because kids are dead they found a ton of stuff even a blind person would see.

Article is sensational clickbait BS, isn't it?  SCOTUS already said minors can't face the death penalty or life without parole.

I live in Barrow County, and we know kids that go to that school, so this is very much a front and center topic in our household.  I don’t have a minute-by-minute rundown of LEO response to the shooting, but I do have some background info for this group.  Several months ago the county ran a full-blown active shooter drill at one of our local schools during a teacher work day.  I think the drill and the roving school resource officers on duty that day are the reason this event was shut down as fast as it was.  We only perform as high as the lowest level of our training.  I also have to give a very loud shoutout to the county fire department.  They had participated in the drill, and were on scene at the shooting at the same time the LEOs arrived.  Not in follow-up mode.  As very first responders.  Our youngest is a firefighter in Virginia, and I could easily imagine him acting in the same way - a topic I have intentionally not broached with my wife.

Could they have had SROs at every school?  Possibly, but the threat this particular kid posed was apparently not passed to Barrow people from either the county he lived in when he first talked about school shootings or by the FBI.  No, I don’t want the FBI to track the movement of every 14 year old.  We have too much Big Brother as it is.  I do think though that within a given state (or likely relocation area) it’s reasonable to do a quick records check on kids moving in from a nearby school district.

Was it ever established how the weapon was brought into the school? I would assume it was broken down and smuggled in?

We have been talking in my circle of friends and family about where the gaps are and some of the comments are, clear backpacks, or no backpacks, single entry with detectors and sro present. All classroom doors auto lock and have to be opened by a teacher or admin.

One person even said TSA scanners...

This

In the interview with the Gray's neighbor, she said she saw him at the bus stop that morning with a "black backpack" so it could have very well been broken down in the backpack.

As for how he got into the school with it, I'm not sure.

As crazy as the boy's mom is, I can imagine that the dad gave the boy a gun to protect himself from his mama.

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The mother of 14-year-old Georgia school shooter Colt Gray has a lengthy rap sheet including domestic violence, drug use and fraud that led to her being sentenced to jail time last December.

Public records show that Gray's mother, Marcee Gray, has a criminal record dating back to 2007 and spent time in jail as recently as this past April and was banned from contacting father Colin without a third party intermediary.

Marcee, 43, has a record across four Georgia counties and includes drug use, domestic violence and property damage, as well as civil claims of fraud.

She was arrested November 6, 2023, on allegations of possession of meth, fentanyl and muscle relaxants but was never charged on the drugs, only the vehicle fraud.

Last December, she pled guilty to counts of using a license plate to conceal identity, damage to property and trespassing/family violence, as she used a tag for a Nissan Kick to conceal the identity of her Nissan Rogue.

On December 21, she was sentenced to five years in jail and banned from having any contact with Colt's father Colin, as well as paying out $1,500 to an Atlanta construction company in restitution.

Gray only had to spend 46 days in confinement before getting the rest on probation, while also having to take part in a family violence intervention program and not use drugs or alcohol.

On April 12, she was charged in connection with a November 4 aggravated battery against a 73-year-old woman, as well as theft, false imprisonment, criminal trespass and failure to appear when she threw the woman against a wall.

She also taped the elderly woman's hands and feet to keep her from leaving and broke a bathroom mirror in the woman's home.

Gray's other charges include misdemeanor traffic offenses in 2019, a speeding charge in 2014 and traffic offenses in 2007.

Aside from the 46 days in confinement, the most she was ever punished was 12 months of probation and 40 hours community service.

She also has been accused of civil fraud by a local Chevrolet dealership, saying she bought a 2018 Suburban with a $10,000 check with her and Colin's names on is that was 'dishonored due to lack of funds'.

Gray was ordered to pay over $19,000 in restitution and attorney fees, with records showing that Colin's paychecks were being garnished to help pay down the debt.

"There were nights where the mom would lock Colt and his sister out the house. And they would be banging on the back door, just screaming like 'Mom! mom! mom!' and crying. It was absolutely devastating," a neighbor said. She added that Marcee was often clearly intoxicated, even when driving her children. "'I would find her in the driveway, passed out, with the car running and blaring music early in the morning," the neighbor added.

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His mama's history

Again? Second time ever huh?

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Audio revealed of sheriff's office confronting alleged school shooter's dad

In a tepid defense of LE, I bet they get to whip out the rubber gloves once kids are dead, opposed to a knock & talk because someone was talking shit online.

Colt Gray's father, Colin Gray, court appearance

For those that don’t listen, dad admitted the guns are accessible, he knows the kid gets picked on and he has talked about school shootings with the kid.

Is it known yet if Colt is using psychotic drugs?

If so, ban those drugs.

Colt Gray appears in court for the first time

Several schools have already started the clear backpack requirement. It's smart.

Regarding metal detectors, they have these in inner city schools. It's interesting to me that these school shootings almost exclusively happen in suburban and rural areas.

I agree with this, unbelievably irresponsible of the dad. At least keep his gun locked up with the ability of junior to finger-fuck it under his supervision. I'm guessing this is why the filled charges on the dad the same day for presumably a straw purchase, sounds like Junior had full access to the gun at all times along with ammo.

I hadn't heard that but dad should've secured all the firearms after that engagement.

What are you willing to do to 72 million children in our nation to save the lives of the 30 or so that die in school shootings every year?  

TSA like checkpoints?  Mandatory voice, audio, and video surveillance?   Terrifying active shooter drills that make sure every child in America knows that they could be shot in a school setting?  Social media campaigns of terror that indoctrinate.  Control.  We need to control them.  Control everything!  Make them long for the freedom of going to prison compared to their schools.  

THEN we need to set the bullies loose on them and make sure they know that despite all of this, there is nobody there to help you with the actual thing ruining your school life.  Reinforce this point.  Bury them in violent music, psychiatric drugs, very non-subtle statements that they are evil if they are straight and white...etc etc etc.  

Its AMAZING that ONLY 30-ish kids die each year in something like this.  I'm sure the social programmers are disappointed in how stable everyone actually is at the end of the day.

Thanks.  Seems like good officers responded as quickly as possible, and prevented any more shooting.  

District Attorney says more charges coming for shooter

I thought you couldn't show the face of a minor on TV and such.  Is this b/c he is being charged as an adult?

Yeah, I feel like those SROs are not getting the credit they deserve. They saved countless lives confronting the shooter.

The 800# gorilla enters the room. When I saw the booking photo, my first question was what pronouns were used . Could gender reassignment drugs have been a factor?

ETA

The picture is a fake? I would still like to know why he dies his hair blond and wears it like a girl. I know some guys might have long hair but based on the booking photo, he could be mistaken as a girl.

the shooter looks like a regular teen.....Im not seeing the tranny aspect

So letting a teenage kid have access to firearms is grounds for jail time, or being given a firearm as a gift is a jailable offense?  Because the kid was accused of making a threatening internet post that was not proven, and the kid denied and no charges were filed?  Because it sounds like you all think someone should lose their 2A and parental rights if they are even accused of something without any proof or due process.

Some of you all are using so much hindsight your heads have gone up your asses


Its amazing how even arfcom is right on board with the Reddit liberal trash when it comes to stuff like this.  Now it's not bad enough that the kids do it, burn their parents too.   This is what the anti's are going to use now.  It's going to become SOP that anyone connected to a mass shooter is going to become the scapegoat even if they had no control or no way of knowing or stopping it.  It'll be used as another way to ban and take away guns and it will slide further from there.    And apparently plenty of people even here are just fine with it

Yep

Correct.

Ugh dad, you broke the rules you fucking idiot.

My wife and I established this back when the kids were little.  Firearms aren't given as gifts, and children are not allowed to possess them, they stay in the safe, and if they wanna see one, they just have to ask.

Anyone have anything on why the 4 involuntary manslaughter charges and then only 2 2nd degree murder charges? Why not 4/4

Yea… kid obviously had issues and dad ignored them.

As to the rest… lol

It has been a few years since I was a teen. I don’t remember any guy in school looking like that.

Hell, I graduated high school in 2004

I can remember back in middle school we had a clear/mesh backpack requirement.

Same.

Due process isn’t required before a parent should fulfill their parental duties. Listen to the interview posted above.