Posted: 1/10/2024 2:25:00 PM EDT
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Alright, where I grew up we never went anywhere or did anything outside of a funeral that required any clothing even halfway decent. Slacks and a dress shirt is about it, tie very rarely. My wardrobe really needs work. I don’t even own a jacket of any kind. Where do I start? I’d like to start with something fairly flexible but I know I’m going to end up with at least one suit as well. Church is a good use case, polos and jeans are about the mid mark for men but it seems like men’s dress is slowly sliding towards lazy and I don’t want to follow. Upgrading my wardrobe with at least a jacket would be a start. Cost is a factor too, what kind of money should I be expecting to spend? Setting aside money for a suit later may be advisable vs just cheap now. Any shops/chains to go ask in OK? Tulsa or OKC are fine. |
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I'm not a clothing snob personally. I get a lot of stuff at Kohl's. I literally cannot kill Haggar slacks. I bet I've washed them 2,000 times. I'd pay $200/pair for them. They are bomb proof. Arrow is their brand of shirts and they are okay but they do fall apart eventually. I've found that nice shirts are worth the price, but pants, in my experience, alisnt worth it. I got a suit from Men's Warehouse. They have deep discounts and play games but at the end of the day I got a coat and slacks for like $270. I felt that was fair. |
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About a year ago I got a job that requires tie and jacket. I will say the first thing to buy is a navy jacket, then a black jacket. These are the two most versatile things I wear. We have a decent second hand place here and I would look into that there before you go to a "new" store. As far as stores I have had good luck with Belks, mainly my wife's store and she gets rewards. They have a good selection of what seems to be decent jackets pants and shirts in a good size selection. |
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Back when I was building my business wardrobe, post-Army, I used Jos. A. Bank a lot. They are always having sales, so get on their e-mail list. Clothing is pretty well sized and usually fits bodies within their fit chart. There might be a store near you. Jos. A. Bank I like their "Traveler line" as the shirts are almost 100% wrinkle-free and have had a long life. Their clothing also comes in "regular" and "trim" with more of a taper. Good luck. |
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After not buying any clothes for myself since before covid, I've been buying clothes left and right lately. Going through a phase I guess, but I've also started dressing like a grown up (at 53). For ideas and to burn a hole in your pocket just like arfcom does, go look around at thefedoralounge.com Before you spend any money on things like dress shirts/suits/fitted jackets/ shoes etc., get your measurements taken. I have not done this, and it limits what I dare to buy online. When you're ready to spend money, poshmark is awesome. I've spent a ton on there over the past month, and couldn't be happier with the things I've gotten that I could never afford or bring myself to spend the money on new. And if you get something that doesn't fit or that you don't like, it's incredibly easy to turn around and sell it again on poshmark. (It's not like eBay, it's super easy, and the shipping is part of the selling price, and you can just have the post office scan your phone to print the label. ) |
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I am a huge fan of Men's Wearhouse. They have formal wear, suits, sports coats and casual clothing. Their employees attend training in men's dress. When I left law enforcement I was in need of suits. A very sharp dressing man referred me to a book by John T Molloy, The New Men's Dress for Success. It was the definitive word on business dress. I found that the employees at MW were pretty much aligned with the book. I buy my jeans there, their brand by Joseph Abboud. I buy almost all of my clothing and non-athletic shoes there. As a member, you save up points and get bonus dollars. |
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-: I'm not a clothing snob personally. I get a lot of stuff at Kohl's. I literally cannot kill Haggar slacks. I bet I've washed them 2,000 times. I'd pay $200/pair for them. They are bomb proof. Arrow is their brand of shirts and they are okay but they do fall apart eventually. I've found that nice shirts are worth the price, but pants, in my experience, alisnt worth it. I got a suit from Men's Warehouse. They have deep discounts and play games but at the end of the day I got a coat and slacks for like $270. I felt that was fair. This is a good post. ^^ Those Haggar pants are great. Get a grey suit and a blue suit. Get white shirts and blue shirts. Get brown shoes and black shoes. Get a few ties. Get a watch. With these few things, you can cover a lot of ground. For your description, you don’t need to spend big money on a bespoke suit. Go to Kohls or Belk and buy them on sale. |
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| If you only learn one thing about men's clothing it is this: there is absolutely no reason to own a black suit if you're not a waiter or a chauffeur. Unless they're dressed in a tuxedo, gentlemen don't wear black. Charcoal, grey or blue. Hell, even brown and tan on occasion. But not black. Black suits are for dumbfucks who just bought their first suit and thought it was supposed to be black. It's not. |
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One thing that I have picked up in the last few years is the idea of action pants. Search them up. This will increase your overall game even on casual days. So many companies make them, just be sure to patronize one that supports your values. ETA: you can get those that are less tactical if that isn't your thing. |
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: If you only learn one thing about men's clothing it is this: there is absolutely no reason to own a black suit if you're not a waiter or a chauffeur. Unless they're dressed in a tuxedo, gentlemen don't wear black. Charcoal, grey or blue. Hell, even brown and tan on occasion. But not black. Black suits are for dumbfucks who just bought their first suit and thought it was supposed to be black. It's not. This too |
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Originally Posted By txinvestigator: This too Originally Posted By txinvestigator: Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: If you only learn one thing about men's clothing it is this: there is absolutely no reason to own a black suit if you're not a waiter or a chauffeur. Unless they're dressed in a tuxedo, gentlemen don't wear black. Charcoal, grey or blue. Hell, even brown and tan on occasion. But not black. Black suits are for dumbfucks who just bought their first suit and thought it was supposed to be black. It's not. This too Another full agree on this one. |
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Originally Posted By jayjohnny: One thing that I have picked up in the last few years is the idea of action pants. Search them up. This will increase your overall game even on casual days. So many companies make them, just be sure to patronize one that supports your values. ETA: you can get those that are less tactical if that isn't your thing. Definitely this. There are some dressier looking hiking pants that I much prefer over jeans for casual wear. Eddie Bauer and Wrangler make some. |
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Look at the 40OverFashion and RealMenRealStyle YouTube channels. Great advice in building a solid wardrobe that’s fairly middle of the road and versatile, so you’re not spending tons of money. You’ll look put together but not like you’re trying too hard. Big fan of Joseph A Bank and Men’s Wearhouse here. |
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Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: If you only learn one thing about men's clothing it is this: there is absolutely no reason to own a black suit if you're not a waiter or a chauffeur. Unless they're dressed in a tuxedo, gentlemen don't wear black. Charcoal, grey or blue. Hell, even brown and tan on occasion. But not black. Black suits are for dumbfucks who just bought their first suit and thought it was supposed to be black. It's not. Solid advice. |
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It's getting tougher these days to find well-cut jackets and suits in the off-the-rack mass market. Perhaps in response to the COVID-adjacent increase in remote work and decrease in demand for "nice" clothes, a lot of the department store and mall store stuff has gone way down in quality for, even 5 years back. The suit-specific stores like Jos A Bank and Men's Warehouse deserve a look, but I'd caution you about sales tactics, especially with the latter. If you see a brand and type there that fits you there, you may very well find it in a department store (trick is knowing what stores carry what lines) for less, and nit feel pressure to buy 2 or more suits to "save" money. It's also worth stopping and checking places like Brooks Brothers, because while their prices can be inexplicable, quality and sizing is inconsistent, and service can really suck, you can never find that perfect jacket on sale unless you are there to see it and try it on. The positive thing these days is it is cheaper than ever to get quality, custom made clothing from a growing number of locations. |
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Originally Posted By 217: Solid advice. Originally Posted By 217: Originally Posted By Bladeswitcher: If you only learn one thing about men's clothing it is this: there is absolutely no reason to own a black suit if you're not a waiter or a chauffeur. Unless they're dressed in a tuxedo, gentlemen don't wear black. Charcoal, grey or blue. Hell, even brown and tan on occasion. But not black. Black suits are for dumbfucks who just bought their first suit and thought it was supposed to be black. It's not. Solid advice. Jake and Elwood are saddened by this. |
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OK. Here's a tip that works well if you don't know anything about clothing or putting together an outfit... Walk into a clothing store, and pick the mannequin with the sharpest-looking outfit. Walk up to one of the people working there and say "I like that outfit, can you help me find the pieces in my size?" BAM, you'll have a sharp-looking outfit. |
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: OK. Here's a tip that works well if you don't know anything about clothing... Walk into a clothing store, and pick the mannequin with the sharpest-looking outfit. Walk up to one of the people working there and say "I like that outfit, can you help me find the pieces in my size?" BAM, you'll have a sharp-looking outfit. 
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: OK. Here's a tip that works well if you don't know anything about clothing... Walk into a clothing store, and pick the mannequin with the sharpest-looking outfit. Walk up to one of the people working there and say "I like that outfit, can you help me find the pieces in my size?" BAM, you'll have a sharp-looking outfit. https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrbk1x1RyD1qbp56no1_r1_400.gif Hah. I should have said "Then get it tailored." It's simple, but even the biggest fashion retard can end up looking good. |
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Check out dappered.com it offer’s good traditional style advice with smart spending in mind. To start dressing better I’d recommend a casual sport coat. Check out this article for more info https://dappered.com/2023/03/in-review-target-goodfellow-stretch-cotton-blazer/ |
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Odd recommendation for clothes. Ebay once you know your body measurements you can get some decently deals. I have been refreshing my wardrobe, more casual stuff primarily, through non-asian manufacturers (primarily US made). I have some older suits from when I was 20 that fit again since losing a bunch of weight last year. Anyhow, many Ebay sellers put tape measures and provide critical measurements which has helped me find durable quality clothing not base in China, India, Bangladesh, etc. I have been buying Gustin pants averaging around $40-$50 and shirts. I also have some “higher end” Japanese manufactured fabrics sewn in the US but being frugal I |
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The "Art of Manliness" website has a bunch of articles about clothing . . . https://www.artofmanliness.com/style/clothing/ You might start here: Men don't dress like boys |
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Originally Posted By txinvestigator: I am a huge fan of Men's Wearhouse. They have formal wear, suits, sports coats and casual clothing. Their employees attend training in men's dress. When I left law enforcement I was in need of suits. A very sharp dressing man referred me to a book by John T Molloy, The New Men's Dress for Success. It was the definitive word on business dress. I found that the employees at MW were pretty much aligned with the book. I buy my jeans there, their brand by Joseph Abboud. I buy almost all of my clothing and non-athletic shoes there. As a member, you save up points and get bonus dollars. This is what I did when I got divorced. I still have nice clothes to wear if I need to but since I'm in a uniform all day and go to the gym, most of my clothing outside of work consists of gym clothes. |
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