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Posted: 5/17/2024 9:50:34 PM EDT
And it costs $8 a month.
https://www.pepperbox.tv/ They already load their videos with ad revenue. So now you have to pay to see a million ads for Sonoran Desert Institute. Want to support because fuck YouTube, but I think pay to watch is a tough sell for a start up. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 9:53:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Dont a lot of them already post on rumble?
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Posted: 5/17/2024 9:59:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Its all getting old regardless of platform. Constant endless shilling, dude bro personalities, fake bullshit lifestyles, everything is curated shit when it comes to content creators now so that when i actually do run across a video of someone discussing shit in a down to earth manner without the sponsors or pleading to smash the like button I feel like I just found a goddamn unicorn shitting golden eggs.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:01:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ManiacRat]
[#3]
This has been tried by other youtubers, even Ian did it. I don't think it's worked out for any of them. While I appreciate the work these guys put into these very high quality youtube channels. I kinda miss the old low production value Youtube where it just normal people doing it for fun.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:05:44 PM EDT
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Didn't they try that about 10 years ago with something called full30 or whatever it was?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ManiacRat: This has been tried by other youtubers, even Ian did it. I don't think it's worked out for any of them. While I appreciate the work these guys put into these very high quality youtube channels. I kinda miss the old low production value Youtube where it just normal people doing it for fun. They do it for fun,. Then they get a decent audience. And then a sponsored product comes through. Then they realize there's money to be made. And money is fun. So they are still doing it for fun. Technically, they get more fun with that money, so they are doing it for more fun after they went pro. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wvfarrier: Dont a lot of them already post on rumble? Never read any further into it but do recall them shutting someone down for posting links to buy stuff. I think they’re pretty strict on advertising with out getting paid for it. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:08:53 PM EDT
[#7]
They need to pick ONE alternative site and stick with it. Patreon, Utreon, etc.... and now this. I don't think it will last.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:14:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: They need to pick ONE alternative site and stick with it. Patreon, Utreon, etc.... and now this. I don't think it will last. It’s all in the name. Some guy bought the guntube URL in the early days of YouTube as a financial investment. Then he wanted an astronomical amount for it that no one would even consider so it it just rots. I genuinely think it could have worked with that URL but shit like PepperBox or Full30 is never going to make it to any search engine algorithms. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:15:11 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ciraxis: Its all getting old regardless of platform. Constant endless shilling, dude bro personalities, fake bullshit lifestyles, everything is curated shit when it comes to content creators now so that when i actually do run across a video of someone discussing shit in a down to earth manner without the sponsors or pleading to smash the like button I feel like I just found a goddamn unicorn shitting golden eggs. Morgan Freeman meme approves. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:15:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: They do it for fun,. Then they get a decent audience. And then a sponsored product comes through. Then they realize there's money to be made. And money is fun. So they are still doing it for fun. Technically, they get more fun with that money, so they are doing it for more fun after they went pro. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 10:24:25 PM EDT
[#11]
The "please like and subscribe", click bait titles, and the 3 minute long plugs for the sponsors suck ass. Sometimes I turn the shit off as soon as that happens.
The same shit happens with shooting matches. I used to like to go to the old field/sniper style matches before PRS sponsor shit got involved. Now it's jersey bro boys and prize table greed instead of casual enjoyment. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:07:40 PM EDT
[#12]
I'm going to start one and call it.......Gunderdome!!!!!
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:09:52 PM EDT
[#13]
It looks like several of these guys are already the Leviathan group guys.
Their content doesn't really appeal to me but going up against a behemoth like YouTube is tough. Best of luck to those guys. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:12:38 PM EDT
[#14]
I love the idea. Fuck YouTube and how they screw gun channels however they can gargle my balls if they think I’m going to pay a monthly subscription to watch any of their shit.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:20:53 PM EDT
[#15]
does that platform have automatic captioning?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:21:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockCamper: The "please like and subscribe", click bait titles, and the 3 minute long plugs for the sponsors suck ass. Sometimes I turn the shit off as soon as that happens. The same shit happens with shooting matches. I used to like to go to the old field/sniper style matches before PRS sponsor shit got involved. Now it's jersey bro boys and prize table greed instead of casual enjoyment. I run a plugin called sponsorblock that skips those sections automatically. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder: Didn't they try that about 10 years ago with something called full30 or whatever it was? Yep. Full30 just never took off. Too niche. Rumble is mainly political podcasts and branching out from that doesn't work very well unless you're VERY established on YouTube already. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:31:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GlockCamper]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: I run a plugin called sponsorblock that skips those sections automatically. Will that work on a smart TV running the YouTube app? I can only take hearing about the gold and silver companies, Sonoran desert institute, coffee, and concealed carry insurance so many times (1 is too many). ETA: Also fuck all the channels that make you watch a fancy 5 minute graphical intro, and then 18 minutes of talking intro before conveying 2 minutes of useful content. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:32:18 PM EDT
[#19]
I could care less.
Their content is retarded 99% of the time. I’ll never pay to watch. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:33:24 PM EDT
[#20]
I feel like this has been done before.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder: Didn't they try that about 10 years ago with something called full30 or whatever it was? This is what I was recalling. Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:40:32 PM EDT
[#22]
About the only gun content I watch regularly these days is Forgotten Weapons.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 11:50:14 PM EDT
[#23]
I don't care what the subject is, the only reason I'd pay is for the ad-free experience. You can't charge folks and subject them to that crap.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:04:10 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Yep. Full30 just never took off. Too niche. Rumble is mainly political podcasts and branching out from that doesn't work very well unless you're VERY established on YouTube already. Yup. I have a small YouTube gun channel (~1700 subscribers). I’ve been uploading to Rumble for the past few weeks and I have…3 subscribers. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:14:47 AM EDT
[#25]
YouTube has saved me many thousands of dollars. Every vehicle repair or upgrade you can imagine has multiple videos available. I was a mechanic professionally for 10 years, many years ago, and I have learned more from YouTube than anywhere. Just today I changed spark plugs, pcv and air filter on our 2019 Grand Cherokee and would have seriously fucked things up without YouTube.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:35:19 AM EDT
[#26]
FPS russia was peak youtube guntube. It is over and never coming back.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:41:24 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockCamper: Will that work on a smart TV running the YouTube app? I can only take hearing about the gold and silver companies, Sonoran desert institute, coffee, and concealed carry insurance so many times (1 is too many). ETA: Also fuck all the channels that make you watch a fancy 5 minute graphical intro, and then 18 minutes of talking intro before conveying 2 minutes of useful content. If you have an android based tv and not fucking stupid ass apple or roku you can sideload apps into it like grayjay or smart tube. These allow you to watch youtube without ads and it automatically skips sponsored segments. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:42:27 AM EDT
[#28]
So all the demoranch bros figured out how to make more money off the gun community by broing out behind a paywall? No thanks
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:51:49 AM EDT
[#29]
$8 a month? That's $7.99 too much.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 12:56:05 AM EDT
[#30]
I've got a better idea. Let's create an onlyfans for the people who are dumb enough to pay a subscription fee for this shit? we could call it gunsimps.com and do paywall live feeds of Andrew fondling a 1911 with his shirt off.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:08:12 AM EDT
[#31]
People have become so accustomed to content being "free" that it's the only viable business model. Obviously viewers want quality content but they just aren't going to pay for it.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:11:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder: Didn't they try that about 10 years ago with something called full30 or whatever it was? And they'll try again in another 3 years after this one bombs. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:39:03 AM EDT
[#33]
The reason it never works out is that they don't abandon Youtube for the new thing. They don't want to give up those sweet subscription numbers for their principles.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:25:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: If you have an android based tv and not fucking stupid ass apple or roku you can sideload apps into it like grayjay or smart tube. These allow you to watch youtube without ads and it automatically skips sponsored segments. We have YouTube premium and it’s completely worth it |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:27:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Just use Rumble
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:32:09 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ciraxis: Its all getting old regardless of platform. Constant endless shilling, dude bro personalities, fake bullshit lifestyles, everything is curated shit when it comes to content creators now so that when i actually do run across a video of someone discussing shit in a down to earth manner without the sponsors or pleading to smash the like button I feel like I just found a goddamn unicorn shitting golden eggs. Same for all passions. Big Toyota 4WD fan, I’ve seen the content progression: Phase 1: good content as they are fixing something in their garage or have good trail footage. Usually with decent camera. Phase 2: “Like and subscribe” Phase 3: sponsors. Finding good content in phase 1 is becoming tricky. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:52:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: The reason it never works out is that they don't abandon Youtube for the new thing. They don't want to give up those sweet subscription numbers for their principles. Did you eat some of your principles for breakfast? Add a little sugar, a little milk, very filling and nutritious, aren't they? Why are soap operas called soap operas? B/c soap companies sponsored them b/c their daytime audience was housewives that bought soap. Don't want advertising, pay for the product. Don't want to pay, eat the advertising or sell your personal information. TANSTAAFL. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:58:44 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Yup. I have a small YouTube gun channel (~1700 subscribers). I’ve been uploading to Rumble for the past few weeks and I have…3 subscribers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Yep. Full30 just never took off. Too niche. Rumble is mainly political podcasts and branching out from that doesn't work very well unless you're VERY established on YouTube already. Yup. I have a small YouTube gun channel (~1700 subscribers). I’ve been uploading to Rumble for the past few weeks and I have…3 subscribers. 4 subscribers now |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:05:00 AM EDT
[#39]
$96 a year to watch ads? Fuck that.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:07:00 AM EDT
[#40]
It's not going to work. There simply are not enough sponsors to pay everyone.
As nutty as he comes across, Nutnfancy puts out the best gun/shooting videos on YT. Even the lapdog Sootch has quality content that's hard to beat. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:10:10 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockCamper: Will that work on a smart TV running the YouTube app? I can only take hearing about the gold and silver companies, Sonoran desert institute, coffee, and concealed carry insurance so many times (1 is too many). ETA: Also fuck all the channels that make you watch a fancy 5 minute graphical intro, and then 18 minutes of talking intro before conveying 2 minutes of useful content. Skip.... skip.... skip skip skip. Fuck this. Then when the channel pops up in recommendations I block it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:17:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bellows1: It's not going to work. There simply are not enough sponsors to pay everyone. As nutty as he comes across, Nutnfancy puts out the best gun/shooting videos on YT. Even the lapdog Sootch has quality content that's hard to beat. Ditto |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:19:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:28:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:30:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RV-1: 4 subscribers now Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RV-1: Originally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Yep. Full30 just never took off. Too niche. Rumble is mainly political podcasts and branching out from that doesn't work very well unless you're VERY established on YouTube already. Yup. I have a small YouTube gun channel (~1700 subscribers). I’ve been uploading to Rumble for the past few weeks and I have…3 subscribers. 4 subscribers now I subbed on Rumble, too. Rumble needs to branch out and become a free speech version of YouTube. I've been lucky on Rumble myself with 19 subs, but I only livestream video game content there. My regular videos don't do nearly as well as my livestreams. It's the opposite for me on YouTube, although my streams have been doing okay there. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:30:33 AM EDT
[#46]
From the user stand point Rumble.com is the best option at this point. Like mentioned they ALL need to rally together and find one platform and stick with it have AD free option. Kind of hard to do when your YT video gets million's of views with your same video at Rumble.com getting under 100 views.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:36:38 AM EDT
[#47]
It's a simple matter of traffic and branding. Rumble has been branded as right-wing YouTube, so by that it cuts the traffic in half. On top of that, the predominant content is podcast videos and livestreams, so that's what ends up being pushed by the algorithm there.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:53:56 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glock27bill: I don't care what the subject is, the only reason I'd pay is for the ad-free experience. You can't charge folks and subject them to that crap. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:00:33 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: Yup. I have a small YouTube gun channel (~1700 subscribers). I’ve been uploading to Rumble for the past few weeks and I have…3 subscribers. Rumble does a terrible job of showing related content. I've subbed to a couple gun channels there, but can't easily find more. The main home screen is filled with unrelated videos I don't care about. Terrible platform. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:02:16 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wvfarrier: Dont a lot of them already post on rumble? And the Odd Sea |
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