Try to imagine Hillary declared R and got the R nomination and it was Hillary (R) VS Bernie Sanders (D) in the election.

What would you do?

It's not irrelevant, we fucking told all the trumpet clowns we weren't going to vote for a big city Democrat. You all ignored us and are trying to force a gun grabbing money redistributor down our throats even after we said we wouldn't vote for one.
This is on you.

If that’s how you see it, sorry.

I’m still not supporting either of those corrupt leftist geriatric fucks.

WTF are you talking about?
How is it on "me "?
I had nothing to do with any of the nominations.
I too am stuck with having to vote for Trump to cancel out a communists vote for biden.
Now not voting or writing in another candidate out of spite only helps biden win.

If I'm to blame for not supporting trump, then you're to blame for supporting him. You can't have it both ways.
Regardless, it was a general "you" not you specifically- meaning the people that voted for him in the primary.

No you are partially to blame for aiding biden get elected by not voting for his opponent and canceling out one of the communists votes for biden.

Remember it is not "supporting Trump" that is our goal, it is keeping biden out of the Whitehouse by voting for whomever is running against him.
Hate Trump all you like but no one can say biden in office would be better than Trump.

When you illegally attempt to overturn an election you lost, when you suggest suspending the constitution because you didn’t get your way…. I will never vote for you again. It doesn’t matter who you are running against. Donald Trump is the antithesis of America. I will do nothing to help him regain the presidency.

Has he been convicted of the crime that you stated or is that your opinion?

The cult’s love for Trump, a repulsive candidate, is why we have to choose between two utter losers.

They’re both too old, antigun and anticonstitution. I won’t vote for either.  My reasons why are very rational.  The sad fact is that Trump is most likely more damaging, long term, because it represents empowerment for the morons who are perfectly willing to sell their rights to support a malignant cult of personality, because they labor under the false assumption that they’re “showing” the establishment instead of making them more powerful,

I watched it all with my own eyes.

The conviction is coming.

He doesn’t have $350M in fines for unpaid parking tickets…

Pray!
That is a pretty hopeless situation there.

I wish Democrats/Communist thought like nevertrumpers, but they don't, they vote lockstep (and do whatever is necessary including printing ballots, etc..) with their party's nominee,
this is why they are winning!

That's about how I feel.  And it is hopeless.  But people are EXCITED about it.

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The middle class and small businesses were enjoying the Trump economy.  You all know what I was saying and your dishonest discussion techniques are designed to get the conversation going in circles so you can direct it in a direction of your choosing.

Same with the attempts at taking my Ruling Class, MSM, and Entertainment Ind. statement away from the direction it was intended.  You know what the message I was trying to get across.
The most laughable is pointing out a misspelling or incorrect grammar as a reason to attack.  A dead give-a-way to the true motive of not listening to what someone is trying to communicate.

The real motive is to destroy.  Destroy at all costs.
To dominate.  Dominate at every opportunity.
And take control.  Take control and never let go.

That's EXACTLY what The Ruling Class is trying to do.  exactly.

That's why there's no point in having phone, video, or online conversations.  You guys are incapable of having honest conversations.

This is the conduct of people who have their face in the trough of what The Ruling Class represents.

Every day I talk to people who aren't the best communicators and I don't ridicule them because it's counterproductive to getting things done.  It would also be a downright cunty thing to do.

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The Two party brainwashing is very real.

In two very simple terms, an accurate description of Trump’s political history and effect on his target:

Pandering - the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. The term is most notably associated with politics. In pandering, the views one is expressing are merely for the purpose of drawing support up to and including votes and do not necessarily reflect one's personal values.

Gullible - easily tricked or deceived. Naive, trusting, susceptible, without discernment.

So you don't read.  And you don't want to talk.  And you're telling me I'm a paid shill who eats at the trough of the Ruling Class.

And I'M the one who doesn't want to have an honest conversation?

I've read every word you wrote and responded to them.  I'm so tired of constant projection, topic shifting, and I've been so desperate for HONEST CONVERSATION that I've offered to have it directly to 30 Trump supporters... and **I** don't want to have an honest conversation?

First, your lousy grammar was never anyone’s focus, it’s just a sidebar. Everyone has addressed your actual points, and they have zero merit, because they’re the worst kind of sophomoric drivel.

You know where the whole “ruling class” argument comes from, right?  That makes your nonsense doubly tragic, along with the absurd notion that Trump represents anything else.  He loves the uneducated… why? Because they’re easy to fool.

Looks like he is showing the gun he is ok with civilians owning.

Yep. Funny how the NRA  only puts flintlocks into the hands of all their so-called “pro-gun” celebrities too (not that Trump would have requested an AR-15 - probably would have if gun owners in this country weren’t so naive and would call him out for his fake 2A support).

Says you  & even more ridicule.

The Ruling Class is both the Left and the Right.  Both sides hate Trump.  Because he's one of them?!?!?!?!

Wonder why you won't address how the majority of middle-class and small businesses benefited from Trump's economic decisions.

We're ALL stupid, uneducated, and gullible to want more of that?!?!?

And we're supposed to believe there's someone who The Ruling Class does not hate who will miraculously start doing the same when The Ruling Class hasn't done anything even close to that in the previous 30-some-odd years?!?!?!?!?!?!

If the choice was between DeSantis and ANYONE on the Dem's ticket, I'd vote for DeSantis even though I suspect he's in the pocket of The Ruling Class and is playing the role of Controlled Opposition.

The hilarity and irony of a Trump fan crying about being ridiculed.

No shit.

The language of this post is straight out of Marxist dogma, but opposing Trump makes one a leftist.

Oh, the irony…

Trump is hated by thinking people, both right and left, because he’s a loud mouthed, megalomaniacal chode.  Only the cult fails to recognize this.

Donald Trump is everything you claim to hate.

He has just made a career of conning gullible people into thinking he isn’t.

Ridicule is cunty Alinsky behavior.  Yep.  Even Especially when people in office do it.  Trump.  Biden. etc.

No one answers the questions.  Just take the conversation in circles.  Again.

Like I said.  Waste of time...

Trump has abused imminent domain for years to kick people off their land so he can make money.

Ya he really cares about the little guy.

Muh M60! Before Trump we had strong, conservative republican candidates! Trumpers ruined everything rrrrraaaaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh

That’s most of us.

But I don’t think he ever should have been a choice to begin with. The USA in a very very bad place…

I posted this in another of the myriad of Trump threads in GD:


You are conflating voting to a singular communitarian action.  Voting is both an individual and corporate action.  Corporately voting or not voting will yield a result that affects the groups you associated it, so not voting will benefit the candidate that you associate with the least.

Voting is also an individual action, which means that a candidate must possess the qualifications that the individual is comfortable given their individual beliefs and morals.  In this respect not voting is a statement about how all candidates do not reflect the values of the individual.

If a candidate is so repugnant to an individual that they chose to not vote, then that does not magically equate to them supporting the other candidate.  It just means that their individual beliefs were stronger than their corporate/communitarian obligations.

Placing communitarian obligations over individual obligations is actually a communist move.

Buddy we've answered every question, every thread, every damned time.

I'll agree that it's a waste of time.

No you guys have not.  At best, you restate my questions and statements in a way that misrepresents what I'm saying or asking.

And this last one, no one answers anything.

Put your answers in bold behind my questions in my quoted post below.  Take a look at the question marks and exclamation points at the end of the questions I asked:

I answered you four pages ago about Trumps joke economy you ignored it.

I would honestly hope you would be willing to educate yourself further and not just repeat Talk Radio Soundbites. Ignore the marketing rhetoric and the Trump brand changing all his scams into the persecution of him.

Trump has had over 4000 lawsuits against him during his life he now calls it lawfare? He is part of the club and always has been. He just saw a chance to run and said what people wanted to hear. He is still doing the same thing just many of us have seen through it.

Imagine your reaction if Biden pushed RFL and an AWB. Yet Trump did the same and you support it. Imagine if Biden tweeted to suspend the Constitution or Obama. Yet it’s fine when Trump wants it? Imaging Obama locking down the country and pushing the Vax… Trump spent faster than Obama did!

Trump does what the left can only dream of doing and the Right gets behind it because it’s branded as MAGA.

I'll make a video for you while I work.

Ayup. fuck that nyc cuck

Yeah I agree. We’ve tried to engage the Trumpers in substantive conversation forever.

All they do is call us leftists, communists, or Biden voters.

Most of them simply aren’t that smart, and the ones who are, recognize Trump loses meaningful, objective debate against the resume of most every other candidate. Especially DeSantis. So here we are.

LOL!  Let's try this:

I DARE you to answer my specific questions.  See them again below:


Surprise me.  Answer those specific questions w/o restating them to fit a pro Ruling Class agenda.

WTF does this mean?!?!

Are you going to post it online somewhere and call out a poster named tree-hugger?

I'll put it unlisted on YouTube and put the link here.

I'm not tech savy.  What does unlisted mean and will you be calling out specific posters?

Trump frames all his legal battles as some good vs evil battle. When mostly it’s Trump breaking the law and running scams then getting caught. TPTB aren’t scared of Trump at all. The media just frames it that way because it gets people to watch and views and clicks make them money. Which gets more clicks? Old woman losses her keys at Walmart? Or? Trump Subverts The Pentagon!??? Most decent people would wonder about someone with a history of 4000 lawsuits. Trump converts it into political persecution.

It’s important to separate TPTB from the unwashed masses of leftists. The masses of leftists do whatever the media tells them to do. Actually the Right is very similar. The right used to worship Faux News like it was gospel. Rush Limbaugh etc. So at the ground level the leftists piss and moan about Trump because the media tells them too. The right media tells the right that Trump is a hero slaying the dragon. So you see the ground leftists trying to remove him from the ballot and other dumb things that then Trump frames as him being Robin Hood.

TPTB want Big Gov. Trump loves big government he thinks it should be used to ban things he doesn’t like etc.
TPTB want us to pile on more debt and Trump piled it on just like his predecessors.
TPTB want Gun Control which Trump did.
TPTB want the Constitution removed which Trump apparently agrees with.

What you seem to fail to understand is that you can think of the economy as a horse. Taxes are the load the horse has to drag. More taxes the slower the horse does any work etc. Any tax relief and the horse can move faster and do more work. Trump was right on removing the load on the horse. The problem is he spent money faster than Obama. When our monetary system is debt based that means as he is spending he is printing therefore causing inflation. More dollars equal more inflation equals McDs is $20 instead of $10. So while you get a short term gain for lower taxes if you spend like crazy you later on get the inflation from his wreckless spending which ends up doing even more damage to the common man.

The Fed raised interest rates to try and soak up some of this wreckless spending Trump and his predecessors did. This is what has hurt the economy most under Biden. Biden nor Trump control interest rates. Just like you with a credit card if it’s 1% party on when it’s 7% it’s a lot less party. Trump kicked the can down the road fiscally which is why he wanted NIRP to continue to kick it down the road the problem is eventually interest rates have to normalize and the more debt the more pain people are going to have to endure as they default. Trump had access to cheap money and made poor short sighted decisions on how to spend it. Now there is no cheap money to be allocated to what the country actually needs. Now average Americans have lost purchasing power and have to face higher interest at the same time.

Trump should have reduced taxes and stopped spending like a drunken sailor on pet projects and his omnibus bills he passed. Instead he sent out TrumpBux on credit and the credit card raised the interest rate. Now our money is worth less and borrowing is expensive.

TPTB don’t have to borrow and are mostly unaffected by such things. We get stuck with the interest and now fast food is $25.

TPTB know they have the right controlled by Trump so they are no factor. Trump made sure the right looks like a bunch of clowns. RDS has no chance against the cult that wants their Trump Bux but then later can’t figure out why their Big Mac is $10.

This is the culmination of years of wreckless Gov spending. Even if Trump gets back in the economy will be a mess unless he can go back to NIRP or close.

There are consequences for being 30 Trillion plus in debt.

Well we know you don't live in reality.

I’ll take that as a compliment from a loon that thinks the Feds are following him because ARF.

Sshh, we're trying to be less obvious about it now.

It just means you have to have the direct link to see it.

It's a video for you since you requested answers.  I don't say your screen name.

It ended up being a 23 minute video.  Lol.

Thank you.

I was more referring to the usual questions but I tried.

You're welcome!

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