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Posted: 11/5/2021 3:10:19 PM EDT
Sitting here waiting for it to pass.

Been years since I had one, started in my teens and back then it would sometimes cover my field of vision and make me light headed.

I had to wait a while while the kaleidoscope of colors moves away from the center of my vision so I can type this.

I never lose sight but if it is in my center of vision I cant read text or see detail, kind of like peripheral vision.

This time it started out just a little lower left of my center of vision, a small spot of rolling triangular shaped colors that gradually  grew larger into a "C" shape that slowly moved left.

Seems to be gone now.

I looks like looking into a turning kaleidoscope similar to this and swirling and moving but not covering my whole field of vision, just parts of it to sometimes most of it.



Usually followed by a mild headache.


Edit: Looks like its returning, same as before,

Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:11:28 PM EDT
[#1]
I get them --- central vision goes completely out and then I get a severe headache lasting 6ish hours.  Sucks.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:14:57 PM EDT
[#2]
I've had several in my life, not regularly thank God.

My wife gets them on occasion.   We call it the flashy thing.   Presents like psychedelic eye floaters and you loose central vision.

First time it happened I thought I was going blind.  
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:15:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Occasionally, about once a year. I get a crescent-shaped blind spot that blocks one side of my vision. It typically resolves in about an hour, with no headache/migraine or other symptoms afterwards.

I actually had one the other night. Woke up in the middle of it. You can even see the blind spot with your eyes closed in the dark.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:16:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes.  Started about 3 years ago.  Off and on.  Sometimes daily and sometimes I'll go a few weeks without one.  I attribute it to stress, though I haven't done much research.  I don't usually get a headache afterwards.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:18:35 PM EDT
[#5]
I get them 1 or 2 times a year and have been getting them for years.  I had an optometrist finally tell me what they were just a couple of years ago.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:19:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Yes.

Imitrex FTW.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:20:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, but I can only notice it with my eyes closed. TBI clinic told me it was aura.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:22:42 PM EDT
[#8]
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Occasionally, about once a year. I get a crescent-shaped blind spot that blocks one side of my vision. It typically resolves in about an hour, with no headache/migraine or other symptoms afterwards.

I actually had one the other night. Woke up in the middle of it. You can even see the blind spot with your eyes closed in the dark.
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My experience is almost exactly the same.  I had my first one about 8 months ago, and have had 2 since then.  No other symptoms.  Sometimes it is just one eye.

Here is a pic of what best portrays what it does to my vision:



It is most noticeable when I am looking at my phone or a computer screen.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:23:32 PM EDT
[#9]
I had my first one about a year and a half ago. I felt hungover the next day. About a year later I had it again, but backwards. Hangover first, trippy shit second.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:24:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Got one as a teenager for a few minutes. Hasn't happened again.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:24:16 PM EDT
[#11]
I get them occasionally.  Freaky as hell the first time you get one.  I can feel them coming now as it typically starts in my peripheral vision and moves to the center.  I'll take 4 advil as soon as I notice and it's not too bad.  Dull headache for a little while after vision comes back.

That being said - I got put on Verapamil for an unrelated issue and the Dr. thought I might be having some type of migraine causing it.  That stuff is mainly for BP but is used off label to relax the blood vessels in your brain.  I took it for about 6 months and it's been quite a while since I've had one of the ocular migraines.  Maybe it fixed it?
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:25:44 PM EDT
[#12]
Its weird I used to get them occasionally, but I havent had one in 6-8 years. They usually only lasted 20-30 min, and it was usually like a single ball of color that would change in size, then it just went away.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:27:31 PM EDT
[#13]
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My experience is almost exactly the same.  I had my first one about 8 months ago, and have had 2 since then.  No other symptoms.  Sometimes it is just one eye.

Here is a pic of what best portrays what it does to my vision:

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/35/53/9a/35539af68b63ea1083bf2b6a9ed2ea7a.jpg

It is most noticeable when I am looking at my phone or a computer screen.
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yep, mine weren't quite that symmetrical but that's pretty much what it looks like. I get a mild head ache as well.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:29:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Hate them. I get regular migraines also, but ocular ones are so damn annoying. And I still don't know what triggers them or any way to alleviate them.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:29:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Had my first one this past summer (I'm 52). Both eyes. Backwards "C" shape in the upper left vision quadrant. Lasted about an hour. No colors... White/black. Same kaleidoscope type movement/pulsing to it.

Checked my BP while it was happening and was normal for me (123/72).
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:29:50 PM EDT
[#16]
Maybe half-a-dozen times over the last 4 or 5 years. Mine usually look like a jagged backwards C.
I wouldn't have known what it was except my wife gets them occasionally too.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:29:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Yes, first time was 10-12 years ago. I haven't had one in a long time though.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:30:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Got one a few years ago. Tripped me out. Had another earlier this year.

Mine seem to be limited to the upper left of my field of view. Like shimmering triangles on a banner.

The second one came on when the bright sunlight was coming through the blinds, making bright/shadow contrasts. Don’t know if that was coincidental or causal.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:31:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Yep I get them every so often. A real pain in the ass.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:32:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Yes i get them. I had a thread about them here a while back, and I guess they happen to a lot of people.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:32:44 PM EDT
[#21]
I got one once, shit was the biblical accurate definition of an angel.



fucking lights and colors and shit moving.

no pain, but a bit disoriented for about a hour. then slowly went away.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:33:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Had two within the last year.  Both started as a small, blurry prismatic "lightning" bolt crescent shape that gets bigger and bigger and kinda just passes through my field of vision over 20 minutes or so.  Not sure what brought them on, no headache after the visual subsided.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:34:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Used to get them right before a migraine would hit, so I knew I had about 30 minutes to make it home.

Quit drinking caffeine/sodas and the migraines quit, but I still get ocular migraines, but with no pain or headache.

Mine are like looking at mirages during the summer in the desert.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:35:21 PM EDT
[#24]
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I get them occasionally.  Freaky as hell the first time you get one.  I can feel them coming now as it typically starts in my peripheral vision and moves to the center.  I'll take 4 advil as soon as I notice and it's not too bad.  Dull headache for a little while after vision comes back.

That being said - I got put on Verapamil for an unrelated issue and the Dr. thought I might be having some type of migraine causing it.  That stuff is mainly for BP but is used off label to relax the blood vessels in your brain.  I took it for about 6 months and it's been quite a while since I've had one of the ocular migraines.  Maybe it fixed it?
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I take pretty strong BP meds.

I tripped last night and hurt my foot and it hurt like a mofo this morning when I tried to put any weight on it so I called in and took a sick day, foot hurt so much that I forgot to take my meds this morning.

Just checked my BP, it's 116/76.

So maybe the injury and or not taking the meds triggered it.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:36:51 PM EDT
[#25]
I get 3 or 4 per year, but no headache.
First time it scared me silly. Now it's just an occasional nuisance.

ETA: I sometimes wonder what our primitive ancestors must have thought about them.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:37:04 PM EDT
[#26]
I get them occasionally, I didn't know what they were called until a few weeks ago.

I always described it as everything looking metallic and sparkly.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:37:27 PM EDT
[#27]
i get them about once a month,wipes out my vision for a good 10-15 minutes.
i haven't had a "regular" migraine since getting the ocular.
it does put me in a depressed state afterwards not mentally but just wiped out.
the rainbow lightning strike
i had meningitis in 90  that kept me in the hospital for 2 weeks,the neurologist said my migraines were from that.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:37:41 PM EDT
[#28]
Twice in my life, both times after working out after taking preworkout. Never taken preworkout since, and never had another ocular migraine.

The first time I got one, I was buggin pretty good . When the second one happened a month or so later I put two and two together and swore off the preworkout.

Not sure why it would be a cause, but it sure seems to be that way for me.

ETA: Neither migraine was followed by any pain or mood changes. I was bracing for a brutal migraine for a couple of weeks after they happened but nothing ever became of it. Guess I was lucky.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:38:52 PM EDT
[#29]
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I got one once, shit was the biblical accurate definition of an angel.

https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/3012722/b26f3aba1b/large/seraphim-accurate-biblical-angel-3d-model-stl.jpg

fucking lights and colors and shit moving.

no pain, but a bit disoriented for about a hour. then slowly went away.
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Damn, I hope you got right with Jesus after seeing that.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:42:41 PM EDT
[#30]
I get them.  Almost always trigger by a super bright reflection of the sun off of something.  That happens, my vision is shot until I can get to a dark area and spend a considerable amount of time.  Very frustrating.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:46:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Started getting them about 3 years ago, half-moon, string zig-zaggy, floats across field of view.
No migraines, I don't typically get any kind of headaches much less a migraine. I am at least thankful for that, but yes, it is a bit disconcerting.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:47:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Nope, that sounds terrible.

In fact I m one of the 10% of the adult population that doesn't get headaches at all,  minus sinus and hangovers if too much of course.  I haven't had a legit headache since puberty,  so since circa '82 or '83.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:49:04 PM EDT
[#33]
I get them and they SUCK!  Never know what sets them off but, I dam sure know when one is coming.  Starts as a small dot in my field of vision.  Soon as the aura has started to exit my field of vision is when the super awesome headache his me like a brick wall.  All I can really do is pop 2 Excedrin super fast as soon as I see the aura.  Sometimes the Excedrin and just laying in bed for a while with my eyes closed works best.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:50:04 PM EDT
[#34]
I get them. Starts out real small and continues getting bigger until it is gone. I never get a headache with them. Usually from start to finish it last 5-10 minutes.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:50:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Dehydration causes mine
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:52:50 PM EDT
[#36]
When I was 12-13(I don't remember) back in the early 70's, on recess I was skating on the hockey rink, stopped to talk to the teacher and some girl smoke a lap around the outside and cannonballed my legs out from under me..knocked me out cold for quite a while, this was my first visit to headache land..Evidently when I finally come to the teacher told me to go to class, I didn't know where to go, so she told a boy to take me to class..So this guy takes me to my class, and sets me at my desk and the class started.A little bit later I just upchucked all over my desk, then fell over backwards knocked out again on the floor...They drug me to the nurses office and called my. mom..She showed up picked me up and took me to our family doctor..bad concussion, told my mom take him home and see what happens..4 days later I woke up fighting, I knew nobody, not myself, my mom, my dad, my brother...Everything I told you to know is what I have been told..Zero memories of any of it..Luckily, young people can handle such stuff much, much better that old people..To this day, I have nothing but a couple very vague memories of my childhood..everything is based off what family and friends have told me...Another out come of all that was bad headaches..I got really lucky though because I would get a mind numbing headache but it would usually leave over nite and back to normal the Docs had early on in these bad headaches had me try tons of stuff, and luckily sumatriptan worked well on the bad ones......slowly over the years they went from several a month  sometimes to going a couple of years with out having a mind bender..In 2013 I was in a bad wreck on the highway system here when a guy lost control of his hummer..I got knocked out for a couple minutes awoke with a headache..turned out I had a TBI and brain bleed..From that day in March of 2013 to now I have had a non stop headache, it just varies on intensity..Not any medicine made has made a noticeable difference..but now, I get pretty much any headache know of..migrains, light, sound, ocular..and I can't remember what else..have tried many many meds, botox, a dh45 protocol I think was another, even a spinal tap and drain to check pressure regulation..nothing has helped..the one thing that can give me relief from all headaches is a dark quiet room and the iceman ice cooler they gave me for my shoulder surgery..fill it with water and ice, wrap the cooling sleeve around my head and turn on the pump..It won't stop the headachsbut I can bear thru them.. so if nothing else will work for you OP, you might try enough ice packs around your head and see if it helps...
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:53:00 PM EDT
[#37]
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Nope, that sounds terrible.

In fact I m one of the 10% of the adult population that doesn't get headaches at all,  minus sinus and hangovers if too much of course.  I haven't had a legit headache since puberty,  so since circa '82 or '83.
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It's more of a nuisance than anything else but if its bad enough I wont drive.

I first started getting them right after puberty hit,  the old "if you don't stop that you will go blind" I thought was a real thing for a few months.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:53:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Several a week bro.

I live with migraines more days than not.

Medication doesn't help.

Back in my college days I used to get cluster headaches which make migraines a walk in the park. Blacked out twice from them. Honestly you should probably go to the doctor as it sounds like what I had during cluster episodes.

Haven't had a cluster headache in a decade though. Maybe a little longer.

Now I just get days long migraines. I went through a nine day migraine last month.

Ive had four or five types of brain scans. They can't find an apparent cause.

I've just learned to live with them.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:53:37 PM EDT
[#39]
Is this where the ocular end of the scope hits you in the forehead during recoil?
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Link Posted: 11/5/2021 3:55:36 PM EDT
[#40]
I had one. Once.

Crazies shit. Then 2 days later my doctor thought I was have a detachment. Went to emergency specialist and my eyes were perfect.

Asked me if I was stressed. Yep. So ymmv.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:13:21 PM EDT
[#41]
I used to ALL THE TIME.

Had a chiro straighten out a pinched nerve in my neck, stemming from a wreck at 19 and hours of desk time in college. Now maybe get 1 a year.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:17:40 PM EDT
[#42]
I used to get them randomly, but they've increased and now I get them every day. It's the main reason that I quit driving, in 2018. The first scary one was when I was driving alone on the back roads, and all I could see was the edges of the road (if I kept looking forward). Peripheral was all I had, so I just coasted until it came back.
  The next bad-timing one was on a highway, and suddenly I couldn't see where I was or tell if I was staying in my lane. I often get confused during these events, and unable to speak. I did motion to my son, who helped steer the car onto the shoulder, then he took over driving.
    Now all I drive is my Rzr, and there have been a couple close calls with that. One of those events starts, and for just a moment I forget that I'm in motion. I've come close to hitting the trees.

My thread;
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Ever-feel-like-your-brain-came-loose-/5-558320/

Replied in this one;
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Ocular-Migraine-a-k-a-Kaleidescope-vision/75-2266116/

My thread;
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Anyone-know-about-Epilepsy-or-Syncope-TL-DR-inside-/75-2253731/

Wiki;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma

Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:18:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Get them, sometimes a couple in a week and then go for months without one. Was told to try drinking a caffeinated beverage when one starts. They usually last mine usually last 20-45 minutes or so.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:19:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:20:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Had one a few years ago, at about 3am, sitting on the toilet.

I never knew such a thing existed, and I thought that I’d stroke out on the can.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:23:34 PM EDT
[#46]
Yep they suck, especially when driving. Pull over and wait. Basically blind for 5 minutes. Bonus, headache for hours.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:24:38 PM EDT
[#47]
yup
bright light seems to set them off. usually first thing in the morning and usually last for about 30-45 minutes with a mild headache after.
have had 2-3 in one week and then go 6 months without one.
Just something that I have come to live with
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:25:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Nov 2017 drove 5 hours up to New Hampshire to do pistol 3 at the sig academy. Had a slight headache at the start of class. Began to shoot and I couldn't hit what I was aiming at. I could see but the center of my vision was off. Everyone else's shooting improved over the day. Mine got worse and worse. The instructors laughed it off at first and then stopped talking to me and eventually just made remarks that I was the worst shooter they had ever had. No matter what I did I was consistently inches off where I was supposed to be. I was so embarrassed because I had been training for the class and had been consistently shooting the best I had ever had prior to the class. My headache had been getting worse throughout the day to the point I couldn't eat before I headed home because I felt like throwing up.

Drove home and because my eyes were off I drove with one wheel on the outside rumble strip until I figured out that placing the center line in the middle of my hood was actually placing my car in the center of the lane. Took 8 hours to get home. Had to stop and throw up a couple of times. I got home and told my wife that I thought I might have had some type of stroke. Went to the emergency room and over the next 3 months had every head and brain scan possible. They couldn't find anything obviously wrong and eventually just diagnosed me as having had an ocular migraine.

I have had a constant headache from that day onwards to today. I wake up to a 3 on the pain scale headache every morning which gets worse throughout the day depending on the day. I have had lots of examinations by neurologists, oral surgeons, and ear, nose, and throat doctors. They can't find anything that explains the constant headaches or occasional full blown ocular migraines. They think that as I was the youngest of 7 children and had numerous concussions from older siblings that the concussions may be causing the current issues as the headache symptoms mimic tbi symptoms.

I have been finding the headaches are getting worse and the ocular migraines come on quicker. I have always been a very patient person with a really long fuse. Now my patience is getting harder and harder to maintain while my fuse is getting shorter and shorter. I have never been a very emotional person and now find myself getting emotional over random things at random times. I am blessed to have a great wife and kids who have helped a lot with keeping positive and moving forward despite the headaches. They step in and take over when they see the signs that my vision is acting up or my headache is getting too much and I need to take a couple of headache tablets, lie down and close my eyes. It's been a couple of years since I had any head of brain scans so I will probably schedule some follow up scans in the new year if I can. I have been too embarrassed to go back to the sig academy for anymore training. My shooting is great now unless my headache gets to the ocular migraine point of not being able to see straight.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:25:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Had my first a few months ago. Really freaked me out.
Link Posted: 11/5/2021 4:27:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Yes. It is very annoying, I usually get a few a year. Thankfully I never get the headaches that many do.
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