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Link Posted: 12/25/2021 6:52:13 PM EDT
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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-study-shows-vaccines-must-be

New studies show that the COVID vaccines damage your immune system, likely permanently
The vaccines are making it more likely you'll be infected with Omicron 90 days after you are fully vaccinated. To keep vaccine effectiveness high against omicron, vaccination every 30 days is needed.

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Worried about Omicron? Guess what? After 90 days, the vaccine they gave you is going to make you MORE likely to get infected from Omicron, not less. The longer you stay on the vaccine treadmill, the harder to get off in the future and the easier you’ll make it for the virus.

In short, we’ve been lied to about the vaccine. It is protecting you less and less over time. While you may get a benefit for earlier benefits, the benefit for other variants (and likely other diseases) is going to be negative. In short, you are getting a short term benefit against Delta, but at the expense of a degradation of your overall immunity to everything else.

In short, these vaccines may help you win the war against a variant that may soon be rate, but the price you pay is that you make your immunity to everything else worse. It’s a dumb tradeoff (especially since early treatments work so well). But the people making the laws won’t believe any of the science referenced in this article, so it will continue.

Alix Mayer alerted me to this game changing tweet which instantly went viral as you can see from the number of retweets:




I want to tell you what this really means and how it is being attacked.
Summary: Refuse to comply with mandates. Now.

This paper means we will need to inject people every 30 days if we want to “protect” them. Based on the harm that the vaccines do to our immune system, it’s likely that the needed interval will shorten with each booster.

If people don’t get boosted as required, they will be MORE vulnerable to Delta and Omicron than if they weren’t vaccinated. That’s what NEGATIVE vaccine efficacy means. It doesn’t mean the protection wears off (like we were told). It means the OPPOSITE of what you were told: it means the vaccines helps the virus to infect you (by suppressing your immune system, probably permanently each time we are injected according to Dr. Ryan Cole). It means we were lied to.



In short, the vaccine is like a heroin addiction: once you’ve had a taste of it, you are hooked: you have to continue it for life if you want protection. If you stop it, you’re a sitting duck for the virus.

What’s worse is our government is mandating this now. In light of this paper, they will change the vaccine mandates to force you to get vaccinated every month or you will be fired from your job. Their next move could well be to make it illegal not to be vaccinated. This seems like where things are headed based on what is happening in other countries where they are quickly stripping away your rights to do anything without a vaccination.

And we have no clue what monthly (and later weekly) vaccination will do to your body. This has never been tested.

My advice is simple. If you have been vaccinated, you need to stop now. Do not get the booster. My friend Dr. Robert Malone is fond of repeating the old adage, “When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.”

Sadly, most people cannot afford to lose their jobs, so they will get vaccinated and medical professionals will not speak out since doing so will cause them to lose their license.
The faster, safer, lower cost way to end the pandemic

Everyone needs to stop listening to the CDC now and start listening to people who have been saying to ditch the vaccines and aggressively promote early treatment with repurposed drugs.

The entire pandemic will end as soon as the CDC stops ignoring the existing early treatment protocols which have been available since March 2020 (Fareed and Tyson protocol was first available back then). Masking, vaccines, mandates, lockdowns, and social distancing were never needed. We could have (and still can) end the hospitalization and death with just one thing: early treatment. Just like Japan has done. But the CDC refused to listen.
What the paper said in detail

First, the link in the tweet is to the outdated version of the paper. The current version can be found here.

Start at the comments, both from social media and also from medrxiv readers.

Check out the social media portion of the comments

Here are some comments (on old and new version of the paper):

   So assume the results you like (high VE for recent vaccination) are causal, but hand wave confounders at results you don't like (negative VE for distant vaccination)? Science?

   This is a superb paper, especially the careful approach to CNV calling and the Bayesian methods used throughout.

   Looking at the graphs, I see both vaccines lose all effectiveness at 90 days, but worse, actually drop into strong negative effectiveness after that time.

   This would mean that these vaccines *increase* one's chances of infection after the initial 90 days "honeymoon" period.

   Am I getting this right?

   If so, why are governments pushing third doses as Omicron is becoming dominant?

The key material is in the full PDF:


The graphs above tell the story. Negative VE means the vaccine is helping the virus, not you.

So at 60 days, the protection is close to zero, so if you want to maintain protection, getting vaccinated every 30 days is required.

This isn’t a vaccine at all. This is basically stimulating your immune system so it is already “geared up” to fight the virus. That’s not what a vaccine is supposed to do.

Furthermore, the negative VE after 90 days means you are hooked for life and I would guess (based on the mechanism of action), that we will need shorter and shorter dosing intervals for every booster you get (since it kills off your immune system every time).

So it could very well be monthly boosters after the 2nd dose, weekly boosters after the 3rd dose, and perhaps daily boosters after the 4th dose to maintain your “immunity.”

You can’t stop after that because if you stop, you’re in worse shape than if you never started.
The stunning conclusion of the paper

   In light of the exponential rise in Omicron cases, these findings highlight the need for massive rollout of vaccinations and booster vaccinations.

All I can say is “wow.” The people who wrote this paper are clearly drinking the Kool-Aid on their interpretation of what their study means.

They also wrote this (which is purely speculative with no data behind it as noted in the italics were my addition):

   The negative estimates in the final period arguably suggest different behaviour and/or exposure patterns in the vaccinated and unvaccinated cohorts causing underestimation of the VE. This was likely the result of Omicron spreading rapidly initially through single (super-spreading) events causing many infections among young, vaccinated individuals.

This paper should be a wake up call: the vaccines do not work. Stop repeating the insanity.

Early treatments like the Fareed and Tyson protocol are 10X better than any new therapy, they don’t “hook you,” and they don’t cause disability or death.

If doctors started prescribing the Fareed and Tyson protocol, we’d have virtually no deaths, and few hospitalization. But they can’t do that since medical board will take away the licenses of any physicians who prescribe ivermectin, etc. This is happening now.

We are in this mess because the NIH, CDC, FDA are corrupt and incompetent and they will not hold themselves accountable in an open debate. This has been going on for 20 years in the vaccine space… it’s nothing new. The book “Evidence of harm” documents all of this. Kirby was deliberately neutral in his presentation (being non-judgmental like reporters are supposed to be), but any neutral thinking person will side against the authorities.
Why the paper went viral

So, the reason this paper went viral is because

   It is well done,

   It was done by PhDs in infectious disease and epidemiology,

   The results show what is really happening, and

   Nobody has been able to attack the paper with a credible argument, even on Twitter.

   It confirms what my team of experts has been saying about negative VE

Here are some of the ridiculous attempts to discredit the paper:




Supporting evidence

The paper isn’t a fluke. There is lots of other evidence in support of the negative VE (and not supporting their speculative explanation for it).

Here’s the data from Canada which shows that we have it backwards. We should be mandating “no vaccines” in order to keep your job and fire all the vaccinated people because these people are the most risky.

   In Ontario in the last few days, cases per capita among the vaccinated have skyrocketed above cases per capita among the unvaccinated. Clearly, mandates are nonsensical at this point, because the entire case for restricting vaccinated people is their presumed higher per capita infection rate.

Here’s the UK data showing the same thing. We need to flip around the mandates ASAP.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1473770816642895878?s=20[/tweet]

Other supporting data:

  On COVID vaccines: why they cannot work, and irrefutable evidence of their causative role in deaths after vaccination and the video about that paper. If the vaccines don’t kill you, they will leave you weaker. Over 90% of the deaths investigated after vaccination were found to have been caused by the vaccines. There is no other explanation.

   The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses
   An excellent article by Jessica Rose which explains the underlying mechanism for why we are seeing the effect that the more you vaccinate, the more you make things worse for people. The vaccine damages both your adaptive and innate immune systems.

   Vaccine efficacy declines to be negative in the UK (Expose article)

   Booster protection fades within 10 weeks against Omicron: UK study

   Booster shots protect against symptomatic Omicron infection for about 10 weeks, study finds — which could mean more doses for some in 2022

   This substack article looks at the Danish study (described here) and the UK data. Note that the VE numbers in the two studies are different because if you separate our Omicron, you get a very different picture of VE compared to analyses that don’t separate out VE by variant.

   Dr. Ron Brown – Opinion Editorial

   December 23, 2021

   Ontario, Canada reported 5,790 new COVID-19 cases on Thursday, December 23, 2021, setting the province’s one-day record for new cases since the beginning of the pandemic: Ontario: Case numbers | COVID-19. Thursday’s numbers include 971 unvaccinated new cases compared to 4,392 fully vaccinated new cases—a rapidly rising trend over the past several weeks clearly showing that most new cases are now occurring in fully vaccinated people.

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Link for the paper the article above discusses:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3.full.pdf
Link Posted: 12/25/2021 6:56:08 PM EDT
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Double post.
Link Posted: 12/25/2021 7:40:59 PM EDT
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Negative VE. I didn’t have that on my 2021 bingo board.
Link Posted: 12/25/2021 11:09:56 PM EDT
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https://medicaltrend.org/2021/12/23/israel-experimental-drugs-can-cure-100-of-severely-ill-patients-with-covid-19/

Israel: Experimental drugs can cure 100% of severely ill patients with COVID-19. The magic drug is here?

According to a foreign media report on December 22, the Israeli biotechnology company Amorphical announced on the same day that in the phase 2 clinical trial of the company’s COVID-19 pneumonia drug “Amor-18”, 18 patients were treated for moderate and severe COVID-19 pneumonia.

All patients recovered and were discharged from the hospital within a few days. Of the 19 patients who received placebo-controlled treatment, 6 were transferred to the intensive care unit and 2 died.

Israel: Experimental drugs can cure 100% of severely ill patients with COVID-19

In clinical trials, 18 patients with moderate and severe COVID-19 pneumonia recovered and were discharged from the hospital within a few days

According to reports, the trial was conducted at the Zief Medical Center in Zefat, Israel, and was led by Dr. Kamal Abu Jabbar and Dr. Nashat Abu Saleh, directors of the COVID-19 virus department of the hospital.

As part of the humanitarian care, two other patients with very serious conditions also took the drug and both recovered and were discharged from the hospital. Dr. Saleh said: “Because the patient who received the medication recovered within a few days and was discharged from the hospital and returned home, it was 100% successful.”

Amor-18, using amorphous calcium carbonate (ACC) as the main ingredient, is taken orally or inhaled through aerosol. According to Amorphical, ACC has the ability to adjust the acid pH around each cell.

These changes affect the ability of the coronavirus to penetrate cells and replicate, so the drug can prevent the spread of the virus, thereby preventing the patient’s condition from getting worse.

Israel: Experimental drugs can cure 100% of severely ill patients with COVID-19

Amorphical claims that amorphous calcium carbonate (ACC) has great potential in treating diseases

The company’s CEO Yossi Ben added that Amor-18 has “anti-inflammatory, safe, effective, easy to use and other advantages”, and it can fight against all new coronavirus variants including Delta and Omicron. The entire SARS virus family.


Amorphical said that it has studied ACC in five other clinical trials and has proven its safety in the treatment of various diseases. In the company’s previous research, the adjustment of pH by ACC nanoparticles caused the metabolism of cancer cells to shift to oxidative phosphorylation, reducing the growth rate of tumors, reducing the ability of cancer cells to invade and metastasize, and enhance the immune system’s ability to defeat tumors.

In addition, ACC also has great potential in reversing bone degeneration, accelerating repairs that affect the verification of autoimmune diseases, reducing pain, improving fertility and improving athletic performance.


Screenshots of public information on clinical trials

According to public information, Amorphical initiated a study on the use of ACC to treat COVID-19 pneumonia in February this year, and submitted a formal clinical trial application on May 19. “We are very excited about the results of the clinical trial.

It brings real hope to people infected with the coronavirus in Israel and around the world, especially with the rise of the fifth wave of the epidemic and the rapid spread of the Ome Keron variant. , This is particularly encouraging.” Yossi Ben said.

According to reports, Israel’s Zief Medical Center, Shamir Medical Center, Kaplan and Tel Aviv Mahani Hayeswa Medical Center are already conducting a larger trial. In the near future, this drug will also be tested in other countries.

At present, seven hospitals in Brazil have announced that they will participate, and other medical centers in Europe and the United States are expected to join soon.

Israel: Experimental drugs can cure 100% of severely ill patients with COVID-19

(source:internet, reference only)

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Also: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-689543 (jpost article on same)

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04900337

Safety, Tolerability and Efficacy of Amorphous Calcium Carbonate (ACC) Compared to Placebo and Best Available Care (BAT), for the Treatment of Moderate to Severe COVID-19 Patients.
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Link Posted: 12/29/2021 9:30:56 AM EDT
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Here we go again two years later




Link Posted: 12/29/2021 5:50:11 PM EDT
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Israel again?
Didn't they have a cure for cancer and Type1 diabetes too in the last few years.
I mean, I hope so but I'm extremely skeptical.
Link Posted: 12/31/2021 12:19:03 PM EDT
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/healthcare-workers-say-some-covid-19-patients-and-their-families-are-demanding-unapproved-therapies/ar-AAS9hgM?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

This article is mainly more of the "people are still believing the misinformation about COVID treatments that aren't approved and could actually harm patients", but it throws in one disturbing thing I don't recall noticing previously.


"Folks act as if they can come into the hospital and request any certain therapy they want or conversely decline any therapy that they want with the idea being that somehow they can pick and choose and direct their therapy and it doesn't work," Dr. Jack Lyons, a physician at St. Cloud Hospital in St. Cloud, Minnesota, told CNN.
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Since when is it strange that a patient thinks they can refuse a treatment that the doctor has ordered?

I quit going to the 'primary care provider' that my insurance had assigned to me, over a decade ago, because the quack listened to me explain what antibiotics I had prior reactions to and what antibiotics worked well for me in the past with similar infections (and he had my medical history of a defective valve causing my heart block), then he said "let's try something new", before prescribing an antibiotic that I later learned had known possible side effects that included screwing up the patient's heart rate (it took a few days to get my heart rate back to normal).  I guess I've been naive in thinking that once I set foot inside a doctor's domain, I have any right to refuse a treatment that the quack wants to 'try out', when it already has known side effects that could be even more dangerous for someone with my medical history.

ETA:  I guess I need to start asking up front if a customer is a doctor, when they bring their Bonanza or Baron into the shop, so I will know that they have accepted the philosophy that once their plane is in the shop, they have no right to decline any work I say needs to be done.
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ETA:  I guess I need to start asking up front if a customer is a doctor, when they bring their Bonanza or Baron into the shop, so I will know that they have accepted the philosophy that once their plane is in the shop, they have no right to decline any work I say needs to be done.
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Ha!  Jokes on you.  They usually don't bring them into a shop.  Usually in the scrap yard while the esteemed Dr. is in a body bag.
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Ha!  Jokes on you.  They usually don't bring them into a shop.  Usually in the scrap yard while the esteemed Dr. is in a body bag.
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Originally Posted By JPN:


ETA:  I guess I need to start asking up front if a customer is a doctor, when they bring their Bonanza or Baron into the shop, so I will know that they have accepted the philosophy that once their plane is in the shop, they have no right to decline any work I say needs to be done.



Ha!  Jokes on you.  They usually don't bring them into a shop.  Usually in the scrap yard while the esteemed Dr. is in a body bag.


That's mainly the V-tails.  ...and based on my prior experiences, a contributing factor in that is likely that somewhere along the way they believed 'some guy on the internet' who was spreading misinformation about not having to follow the procedure laid out in the manufacturer's maintenance manual (which calls for using an expensive jig to set the V-tail controls to neutral), offering an unapproved (and cheaper) method of "fixing" their plane.
Link Posted: 12/31/2021 1:04:24 PM EDT
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Oh, I thought it was the numbskulls that didn't know how to fly the planes their net worth allowed them to buy.  Not the maint side
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Negative VE. I didn’t have that on my 2021 bingo board.
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I don't think it really is negative VE.

If it was ADE or VEI it would be accompanied by severe disease and we aren't seeing that, so I think it may be a result of the vaccine failing, which we know it does, but the vaxed people taking zero precautions and getting infected with a very infectious strain.
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Oh, I thought it was the numbskulls that didn't know how to fly the planes their net worth allowed them to buy.  Not the maint side
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Probably a mix of both.

There is at least one internet forum where Baron and Bonanza owners swap information on methods of 'fixing' their planes, with some of their 'fixes' not only ignoring the manufacturer's instructions on how to do the work, but openly violating FAA regs.  

They word things along the lines of "here's what my mechanic found out", but some of them are completely unbelievable when they do it.  'Your mechanic' has been tinkering with the prop and prop governor (even taking the prop governor apart and shimming the internal spring - which is highly illegal for a lowly mechanic to do) for two weeks, trying to get your engine up to it's rated rpm at full power, only to find out today that the whole problem was being caused by one of your pistons having a hole melted through it (likely caused by you ignoring the procedures laid out in the pilot handbook, and running the engine by some procedures you read on the forum)?  Sorry, I'm not believing that your mechanic found that out, then told you he had spent two weeks building up billable hours, with some of that time spent illegally making internal adjustments on the prop governor (a repair station license is required to do any internal work on that component), while the whole two weeks he was chasing the wrong problem.

Odds are there are some doctors taking part in that spread of aviation maintenance misinformation.

And they all seem puzzled as to why their V-tail Bonanzas "feel unstable", after they tweak the flight controls so that the plane is always flying with the controls crossed up (constantly flying in a mild "slip").
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Originally Posted By Mach:



I don't think it really is negative VE.

If it was ADE or VEI it would be accompanied by severe disease and we aren't seeing that, so I think it may be a result of the vaccine failing, which we know it does, but the vaxed people taking zero precautions and getting infected with a very infectious strain.
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Between that and those in worse health being in a rush to get the jab earlier, it'll be hard for any laymen to make a judgement.

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I have maintained all along that whether this was released on purpose or by accident, it doesn't change the fact that the Chinese did all they could to help spread it, and the western bureaucracies and health agencies - pretty much globlists across the board here and in the EU - did all they could create a fog of war, import it, and pour gas on the fire.   It's the intent behind smallpox blankets that matter, not the origin.

However - it's getting pretty fucking clear that someone made this virus for this purpose, regardless of how it got out.   Maybe it leaked early, maybe someone did us a favor and "helped" an intermediate version escape.   Maybe it was released on purpose by those responsible; maybe it did was was intended, or maybe it didn't.

What tips me off the fence on that is the secrecy surrounding the Merck treatment having been in development long before the outbreak.   If they were developing treatments for SARS/MERS that use the same general method of action as Ivermectin back then, then it lends credibility to the accusations that they've known it worked from the start.

A few years ago I would have assumed the Chinese were the guilty party for developing it, but the flat out evil behavior of the westerners involved shines a light on some serious rot.  The same political faction(s) are now trying to smother whatever half-ass traces of freedom are left in the West, and doing their level best to provoke war with Russian and/or China on top of all of this.  (I am partial to the Ukrainians but our leadership has been pants on head retarded for decades)

Link Posted: 1/22/2022 3:13:37 PM EDT
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https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/real-covid-hospitalization-data-from

Real Covid hospitalization data from San Francisco General Hospital
72% of Covid patients are vaccinated (including 26% who are BOOSTED)

Alex Berenson
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One in three is an incidental admission (has Covid but not admitted for Covid). Several of those are likely pregnant women (L&D is labor and delivery).

And NOT ONE is a child.




He has the rest of it (very unhelpfully for such critical information) hidden behind his paywall.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 4:44:24 PM EDT
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2 year anniversary of this thread kicking off. Seems like yesterday.
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Hard to believe to believe it's been that long.  

Link Posted: 1/22/2022 9:28:58 PM EDT
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Hard to believe to believe it's been that long.  

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2 year anniversary of this thread kicking off. Seems like yesterday.


Hard to believe to believe it's been that long.  


Yep. Seems like yesterday. 125,000+ posts.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 10:01:55 PM EDT
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Hard to believe to believe it's been that long.  

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2 year anniversary of this thread kicking off. Seems like yesterday.


Hard to believe to believe it's been that long.  



Two weeks to flatten the curve

Eta: y’all got played
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 10:38:01 PM EDT
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This was not the first COVID thread. It sure is the biggest COVID thread and pretty close to the first.
Link Posted: 1/22/2022 10:45:40 PM EDT
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This was the thread that kept me ahead of the curve as far as PPE, treatments/supplements,  problems with food shortages, and all the rest.

The one thing that it didn't do for me was the whole TP thing. That was a surprise to everybody I think. Luckily I'd just bought one of those ginormous multi-packs so I was good. Have been maintaining a multi-month stash in case some new ridiculous disaster comes along.
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This was the thread that kept me ahead of the curve as far as PPE, treatments/supplements,  problems with food shortages, and all the rest.

The one thing that it didn't do for me was the whole TP thing. That was a surprise to everybody I think. Luckily I'd just bought one of those ginormous multi-packs so I was good. Have been maintaining a multi-month stash in case some new ridiculous disaster comes along.
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TP must have been mentioned somewhere, because I went out and bought a bunch well before the shortages started.  Looked like a hero to my family! Should have bought ammo too, but didn't have the extra money at the time.

Overall, this thread kept me ahead of the curve pretty much the whole way through.
Link Posted: 1/23/2022 1:03:22 AM EDT
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Lots of good information in this thread but it has been buried.

We did not have the money to buy a lot of stuff when it hit.

Talking to other Alaskans that had symptoms in February 2020 and they had the testing done and showed antibodies.
A cousin lost her husband in Feb 2020 do to very fast lung infection. Kept going to the hospital and nothing was done.
I believe it was the China virus.
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TP must have been mentioned somewhere, because I went out and bought a bunch well before the shortages started.  Looked like a hero to my family! Should have bought ammo too, but didn't have the extra money at the time.

Overall, this thread kept me ahead of the curve pretty much the whole way through.
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TP was definitely mentioned somewhere here, I was prepared because of that.
Link Posted: 1/23/2022 10:18:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
This thread has been responsible for me being far more prepared for shortages and social disruptions. It also got my wife on board the prepper train, which is nothing short of miraculous.

It's funny, I've said for decades that if I knew society was going to collapse that I'd buy a warehouse full of TP and thus end up being the richest man in town.
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Before Kung Flu came along, my wife was "tolerant" of my prepper inclinations. Having stuff on hand that we didn't have to drive all over creation and not being able to find solidified her attitude towards having supplies on hand. She had always complained about how much ammo I'd accumulated over the years right up to the point where it wasn't available any more. Funny how that works.
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 11:14:04 AM EDT
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So what does everyone think the end result of this is going to be?
Covid is getting milder as it mutates.
States and countries are lifting mask mandates.
I'm seeing everything going back to normal pretty fast, except for the places that we know are like mini-Soviet-Unions like California, NY and Australia.

What will be the end result of Covid?
Just a cold with the same death rates as before to unhealthy people?
I think so.

Is the transmission/infection rate the only thing left that's crazy high or has even that been vastly exaggerated?
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 11:23:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded:
So what does everyone think the end result of this is going to be?
Covid is getting milder as it mutates.
States and countries are lifting mask mandates.
I'm seeing everything going back to normal pretty fast, except for the places that we know are like mini-Soviet-Unions like California, NY and Australia.

What will be the end result of Covid?
Just a cold with the same death rates as before to unhealthy people?
I think so.

Is the transmission/infection rate the only thing left that's crazy high or has even that been vastly exaggerated?
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Personally, I think that over the next 3 years it will recede in to the background. Over the next 5-10 years it will be another virus in the "common cold" family.
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 11:55:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded:
So what does everyone think the end result of this is going to be?
Covid is getting milder as it mutates.
States and countries are lifting mask mandates.
I'm seeing everything going back to normal pretty fast, except for the places that we know are like mini-Soviet-Unions like California, NY and Australia.

What will be the end result of Covid?
Just a cold with the same death rates as before to unhealthy people?
I think so.

Is the transmission/infection rate the only thing left that's crazy high or has even that been vastly exaggerated?
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Link Posted: 1/27/2022 12:07:20 PM EDT
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A coworker of mine has a son who had covid. My coworker, who is generally a pragmatic guy, told me he had been going around his son who had covid to "boost his immune system". He came to work last Tuesday sick and I sent him home once I was aware he was sick. On Thursday, I could feel something coming on and I woke up Friday with congestion. On Friday afternoon, I began having chills and a fever along with a headache and vertigo. I tested positive with an OTC test Friday afternoon as well and took a PCR test Friday morning. Saturday, I experienced the same symptoms, only a bit muted. Sunday, I had some vertigo but was almost back to normal outside of congestion. This week, I have had just congestion.

For reference, I followed the iMask protocol.
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 12:42:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Personally, I think that over the next 3 years it will recede in to the background. Over the next 5-10 years it will be another virus in the "common cold" family.
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Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded:
So what does everyone think the end result of this is going to be?
Covid is getting milder as it mutates.
States and countries are lifting mask mandates.
I'm seeing everything going back to normal pretty fast, except for the places that we know are like mini-Soviet-Unions like California, NY and Australia.

What will be the end result of Covid?
Just a cold with the same death rates as before to unhealthy people?
I think so.

Is the transmission/infection rate the only thing left that's crazy high or has even that been vastly exaggerated?


Personally, I think that over the next 3 years it will recede in to the background. Over the next 5-10 years it will be another virus in the "common cold" family.


I don't know if it will occur faster than that, or slower than that, but that seems the likely outcome.
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 1:24:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


TP must have been mentioned somewhere, because I went out and bought a bunch well before the shortages started.  Looked like a hero to my family! Should have bought ammo too, but didn't have the extra money at the time.

Overall, this thread kept me ahead of the curve pretty much the whole way through.
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Originally Posted By planemaker:
This was the thread that kept me ahead of the curve as far as PPE, treatments/supplements,  problems with food shortages, and all the rest.

The one thing that it didn't do for me was the whole TP thing. That was a surprise to everybody I think. Luckily I'd just bought one of those ginormous multi-packs so I was good. Have been maintaining a multi-month stash in case some new ridiculous disaster comes along.


TP must have been mentioned somewhere, because I went out and bought a bunch well before the shortages started.  Looked like a hero to my family! Should have bought ammo too, but didn't have the extra money at the time.

Overall, this thread kept me ahead of the curve pretty much the whole way through.

Ugh. Ammo was one thing I definitely missed.

Back in January, when the thread began, I'd been thinking about getting another couple cases of 9mm Lawman @ ~$0.18/pr and a case or 2 of 5.56, but decided to hold off.
Link Posted: 1/27/2022 1:30:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JPN:


I don't know if it will occur faster than that, or slower than that, but that seems the likely outcome.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By liberals-R-retarded:
So what does everyone think the end result of this is going to be?
Covid is getting milder as it mutates.
States and countries are lifting mask mandates.
I'm seeing everything going back to normal pretty fast, except for the places that we know are like mini-Soviet-Unions like California, NY and Australia.

What will be the end result of Covid?
Just a cold with the same death rates as before to unhealthy people?
I think so.

Is the transmission/infection rate the only thing left that's crazy high or has even that been vastly exaggerated?


Personally, I think that over the next 3 years it will recede in to the background. Over the next 5-10 years it will be another virus in the "common cold" family.


I don't know if it will occur faster than that, or slower than that, but that seems the likely outcome.

It'll depend on the level of immunity conferred by Omicron against future variants.

Omicron is doing a good job of spreading it fast and wide. If it confers good immunity against future variants, this could be the last real wave, with ot becoming endemic and just another cold inducing coronavirus like the 4 regular hCovs. If it doesn't...
Link Posted: 1/28/2022 10:38:33 AM EDT
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So, a week ago the county stopped reporting on case rates.  Pretty much as we were approaching the peak, I think, but who knows?

Yesterday Campus decided they won't release data on student, faculty and staff cases, either.

I'll be sarcastically asking my boss, if they aren't releasing the data anymore, do we still have to report positive tests?  He's my kind of asshole, he'll laugh, then tell me yes.
Link Posted: 1/29/2022 6:50:09 PM EDT
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So we're now Saturday, County hasn't updated since Thurs last week, will not update until (maybe) Monday next week.  At the peak of the crisis.

Schools, Colleges, etc use these numbers to decide go/no go.  We're now on a minimum 11 day blackout zone.

Meanwhile, I asked my boss, since County isn't updating numbers, and Employer isn't updating numbers, do I still need to report a positive result?

He took a deep breath, and said, "OFFICIALLY," and I interrupted and said I was being sarcastic.  It's OK.

He mentioned how keeping folks home for 5 days didn't seem to do much, and said his wife was sent home to 5 days on the farm with nobody to talk to but him.

I said it sounded pretty good up until the last part.

He doubled over laughing.

My boss is an asshole, but he's my kind of asshole.
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Hey look, exponential growth.  Looks like some folks from 2 years ago were right.  Just took the escape mutant to get there.  
Link Posted: 1/30/2022 12:37:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WVUSIG:
A coworker of mine has a son who had covid. My coworker, who is generally a pragmatic guy, told me he had been going around his son who had covid to "boost his immune system". He came to work last Tuesday sick and I sent him home once I was aware he was sick. On Thursday, I could feel something coming on and I woke up Friday with congestion. On Friday afternoon, I began having chills and a fever along with a headache and vertigo. I tested positive with an OTC test Friday afternoon as well and took a PCR test Friday morning. Saturday, I experienced the same symptoms, only a bit muted. Sunday, I had some vertigo but was almost back to normal outside of congestion. This week, I have had just congestion.

For reference, I followed the iMask protocol.
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This is a hard Omicron. Fast transit. Cold symptoms. We also had all the same stuff. No I mask though. Omicron is a cold. Weird that the congestion sticks around a week after. Same here too
Link Posted: 1/30/2022 12:39:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:

It'll depend on the level of immunity conferred by Omicron against future variants.

Omicron is doing a good job of spreading it fast and wide. If it confers good immunity against future variants, this could be the last real wave, with ot becoming endemic and just another cold inducing coronavirus like the 4 regular hCovs. If it doesn't...
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The only caveat is the pfizer dumbfucks will release the omicron vaccine soon and cause immunity evasion. We got lucky going from delta to omicron. Who knows wtf will show up next
Link Posted: 1/30/2022 1:08:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bakkbakk:

The only caveat is the pfizer dumbfucks will release the omicron vaccine soon and cause immunity evasion. We got lucky going from delta to omicron. Who knows wtf will show up next
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Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By bluemax_1:

It'll depend on the level of immunity conferred by Omicron against future variants.

Omicron is doing a good job of spreading it fast and wide. If it confers good immunity against future variants, this could be the last real wave, with ot becoming endemic and just another cold inducing coronavirus like the 4 regular hCovs. If it doesn't...

The only caveat is the pfizer dumbfucks will release the omicron vaccine soon and cause immunity evasion. We got lucky going from delta to omicron. Who knows wtf will show up next

Data is also trickling in that there are indications of another immune evasion. Which could be bad, bad news.
Link Posted: 1/30/2022 3:52:17 PM EDT
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Data is also trickling in that there are indications of another immune evasion. Which could be bad, bad news.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By bluemax_1:

It'll depend on the level of immunity conferred by Omicron against future variants.

Omicron is doing a good job of spreading it fast and wide. If it confers good immunity against future variants, this could be the last real wave, with ot becoming endemic and just another cold inducing coronavirus like the 4 regular hCovs. If it doesn't...

The only caveat is the pfizer dumbfucks will release the omicron vaccine soon and cause immunity evasion. We got lucky going from delta to omicron. Who knows wtf will show up next

Data is also trickling in that there are indications of another immune evasion. Which could be bad, bad news.
Are you talking about the ba.2?

I didn't watch closely, but the last Last campbell vid I caught on that didn't ring my bells. Admit I wasn't watching closely, but he seemed to be saying it effectively wasn't big news? I'll have to go look again.

Omicron outcompetes omicron, official data


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As for the morons playing the leaky vaccine thing again...

How much "room" does ccp-fauci-flu have left to mutate? ... The thing is already virtually as infectious as measles. If it took a mutation that made it more deadly on top of that measles like infectivity, I can't see how it wouldn't make people pop symptoms ( a good thing) ... it gets interesting from here, I think.

The stupid leaky vaccines might have painted the thing into a corner without many good options (I hope so).
Link Posted: 1/30/2022 5:28:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
Are you talking about the ba.2?

I didn't watch closely, but the last Last campbell vid I caught on that didn't ring my bells. Admit I wasn't watching closely, but he seemed to be saying it effectively wasn't big news? I'll have to go look again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9utczapsmI

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As for the morons playing the leaky vaccine thing again...

How much "room" does ccp-fauci-flu have left to mutate? ... The thing is already virtually as infectious as measles. If it took a mutation that made it more deadly on top of that measles like infectivity, I can't see how it wouldn't make people pop symptoms ( a good thing) ... it gets interesting from here, I think.

The stupid leaky vaccines might have painted the thing into a corner without many good options (I hope so).
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By bakkbakk:
Originally Posted By bluemax_1:

It'll depend on the level of immunity conferred by Omicron against future variants.

Omicron is doing a good job of spreading it fast and wide. If it confers good immunity against future variants, this could be the last real wave, with ot becoming endemic and just another cold inducing coronavirus like the 4 regular hCovs. If it doesn't...

The only caveat is the pfizer dumbfucks will release the omicron vaccine soon and cause immunity evasion. We got lucky going from delta to omicron. Who knows wtf will show up next

Data is also trickling in that there are indications of another immune evasion. Which could be bad, bad news.
Are you talking about the ba.2?

I didn't watch closely, but the last Last campbell vid I caught on that didn't ring my bells. Admit I wasn't watching closely, but he seemed to be saying it effectively wasn't big news? I'll have to go look again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9utczapsmI

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As for the morons playing the leaky vaccine thing again...

How much "room" does ccp-fauci-flu have left to mutate? ... The thing is already virtually as infectious as measles. If it took a mutation that made it more deadly on top of that measles like infectivity, I can't see how it wouldn't make people pop symptoms ( a good thing) ... it gets interesting from here, I think.

The stupid leaky vaccines might have painted the thing into a corner without many good options (I hope so).

Not ba.2. Data is indicating a number of folks presenting for COVID like illness but testing negative for Covid-19. Karl Denninger has been following the pattern and posting ideas.
Link Posted: 2/4/2022 11:33:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/4/2022 11:48:48 AM EDT
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Totally normal.

Link Posted: 2/4/2022 11:55:42 AM EDT
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Totally normal.

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Totally normal.



Nothing says "cocktail hour" like hazmat suits

Link Posted: 2/4/2022 3:16:54 PM EDT
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... wow, morons.

Maybe they believe this is true:

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:48:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2022 2:09:23 AM EDT
[#47]
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-weighs-increasing-time-between-vaccine-doses-to-lower-risk-of-heart-inflammation

CDC weighs increasing time between vaccine doses to lower risk of heart inflammation
Risk of heart inflammation is lowered if the vaccines are given eight weeks apart, health officials say
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U.S. health officials are considering new changes to vaccine guidance that would lengthen the amount of time between doses in order to lower the risk of heart inflammation for immunocompromised people.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told a panel of outside advisers on Friday these proposed changes would apply to the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines.
A vial of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is displayed on a counter at a pharmacy in Portland, Ore., Monday, Dec. 27, 2021.

A vial of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is displayed on a counter at a pharmacy in Portland, Ore., Monday, Dec. 27, 2021. (AP Photo/Jenny Kane)

Immunocompromised people, who generally don’t respond as well to vaccines, are the only population advised to get four vaccine jabs.

CDC guidance suggests this group should receive three vaccine doses within two months and a fourth dose around five months after the third. The CDC is now suggesting that immunocompromised people should get their fourth shot as soon as three months after the third.
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Leah Lefkove, 9, covers her face as her dad Dr. Ben Lefkove gives her the first COVID-19 vaccine at the Viral Solutions vaccination and testing site in Decatur, Ga. (AP Photo/Ben Gray)

This update would apply to people ages 18 and up who receive the Moderna or Johnson & Johnson vaccine, and people age 12 and up who received Pfizer.

Dr. Sara Oliver, a CDC official, said during Friday’s presentation, that an extended interval appears to reduce the risk of myocarditis. She also said the risk of heart inflammation is lowered if the vaccines are given eight weeks apart.

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Although rare, myocarditis is a side effect seen in the Pfizer and Moderna shots and appears to be most common with young men. Most cases are mild and resolve quickly.
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Many liberal pundits and columnist have attempted to belittle the unvaccinated.  (AP)

Some 33 million people in the U.S., between the ages of 12 and 39, remain unvaccinated, according to Oliver.

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Nothing to see here, move along, move along, we totally aren't saying what you were months ago that we said was false. Move along citizen ...
Link Posted: 2/19/2022 3:46:12 PM EDT
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02/18/shi-zhengli-on-asm-leadership-board/

EXC: Wuhan’s ‘Batwoman’ Advises a U.S. Taxpayer-Funded Group Which Lobbies Congress for Lower Standards for Foreign BioLabs.

The long-time Daszak collaborator has more influence on America's scientific community than many realize.
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by Natalie Winters
February 18, 2022

Dr. Shi Zhengli – the notorious Wuhan Institute of Virology’s coronavirus researcher – was elected to a leadership role for the American Academy of Microbiology, which receives millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers. The Academy has also advised the federal government to “remove hurdles for international collaboration” in high-level biosafety labs, The National Pulse can reveal.

Also known as Wuhan’s “Batwoman,” Dr. Shi runs the controversial Chinese laboratory’s Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases and has received grants from Anthony Fauci’s National Institue of Health (NIH) agency to manipulate bat coronaviruses to become deadlier to humans. To many, this is where COVID-19 began.

Now, The National Pulse can reveal that despite being a “longtime collaborator” of EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak, and becoming instrumental in the cover-up of COVID-19’s origins, Shi has a leadership position in the American scientific establishment at cost to the U.S. tax payer.

Dr. Shi was elected to serve as a fellow in the American Academy of Microbiology (AAM) – the American Society of Microbiology’s (ASM) “honorific leadership group” – in January 2019.

She still retains a biography page on the ASM website, which suggests the fellowship is still active. Despite several requests for comments from The National Pulse, neither the ASM nor the AAM responded to inquiries about Shi’s current status or details surrounding her fellowship.
Get On Gettr
Shi’s active bio on the ASM website.

Shi’s advisory role within the ASM gives her influence over the direction of the body, which received over $5.3 million in federal funds in 2020.

ASM has an advocacy program where it deploys its members to lobby Congress on public health issues and research regulations, including policies relevant to Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) facilities. The Wuhan Institute of Virology hosts a BSL-4 laboratory.
MUST READ:  COVID Positive? In South Korea, You Might Be Barred From Voting.

Professor Ronald Atlas testified before Congress on behalf of the ASM in 2009, revealing the group had been advising the federal government on high-containment laboratories.

   “During the past 2 years, the ASM has met with the Trans- Federal Task Force on Biosafety and Biocontainment Oversight and the Executive Order Working Group on strengthening the biosecurity of the United States and made a number of recommendations to those groups…” – Prof. Atlas

“These are not weapons laboratories; rather, they are research laboratories where investigations are carried out with the aim of protecting public health,” Atlas added.

On behalf of the ASM, Atlas also recommends that the NIH should change its regulation of international collaboration in these high-risk facilities:

   “The NIH requirements that foreign institutions must have comparable facilities and standards that are U.S. Collaborative should be changed to remove hurdles for international collaboration.”

Daszak – a long-time friend and collaborate of Shi – was removed from the COVID-19 origins investigative team after exclusive National Pulse reporting into his unprecedented conflicts of interest.
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"Please give us more american taxpayer dollars so we incompetent gongfei can screw the world AGAIN."
Link Posted: 2/19/2022 6:55:55 PM EDT
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02/18/shi-zhengli-on-asm-leadership-board/



"Please give us more american taxpayer dollars so we incompetent gongfei can screw the world AGAIN."
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02/18/shi-zhengli-on-asm-leadership-board/

EXC: Wuhan’s ‘Batwoman’ Advises a U.S. Taxpayer-Funded Group Which Lobbies Congress for Lower Standards for Foreign BioLabs.

The long-time Daszak collaborator has more influence on America's scientific community than many realize.
Start
by Natalie Winters
February 18, 2022

Dr. Shi Zhengli – the notorious Wuhan Institute of Virology’s coronavirus researcher – was elected to a leadership role for the American Academy of Microbiology, which receives millions of dollars from U.S. taxpayers. The Academy has also advised the federal government to “remove hurdles for international collaboration” in high-level biosafety labs, The National Pulse can reveal.

Also known as Wuhan’s “Batwoman,” Dr. Shi runs the controversial Chinese laboratory’s Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases and has received grants from Anthony Fauci’s National Institue of Health (NIH) agency to manipulate bat coronaviruses to become deadlier to humans. To many, this is where COVID-19 began.

Now, The National Pulse can reveal that despite being a “longtime collaborator” of EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak, and becoming instrumental in the cover-up of COVID-19’s origins, Shi has a leadership position in the American scientific establishment at cost to the U.S. tax payer.

Dr. Shi was elected to serve as a fellow in the American Academy of Microbiology (AAM) – the American Society of Microbiology’s (ASM) “honorific leadership group” – in January 2019.

She still retains a biography page on the ASM website, which suggests the fellowship is still active. Despite several requests for comments from The National Pulse, neither the ASM nor the AAM responded to inquiries about Shi’s current status or details surrounding her fellowship.
Get On Gettr
Shi’s active bio on the ASM website.

Shi’s advisory role within the ASM gives her influence over the direction of the body, which received over $5.3 million in federal funds in 2020.

ASM has an advocacy program where it deploys its members to lobby Congress on public health issues and research regulations, including policies relevant to Biosafety Level 4 (BSL-4) facilities. The Wuhan Institute of Virology hosts a BSL-4 laboratory.
MUST READ:  COVID Positive? In South Korea, You Might Be Barred From Voting.

Professor Ronald Atlas testified before Congress on behalf of the ASM in 2009, revealing the group had been advising the federal government on high-containment laboratories.

   “During the past 2 years, the ASM has met with the Trans- Federal Task Force on Biosafety and Biocontainment Oversight and the Executive Order Working Group on strengthening the biosecurity of the United States and made a number of recommendations to those groups…” – Prof. Atlas

“These are not weapons laboratories; rather, they are research laboratories where investigations are carried out with the aim of protecting public health,” Atlas added.

On behalf of the ASM, Atlas also recommends that the NIH should change its regulation of international collaboration in these high-risk facilities:

   “The NIH requirements that foreign institutions must have comparable facilities and standards that are U.S. Collaborative should be changed to remove hurdles for international collaboration.”

Daszak – a long-time friend and collaborate of Shi – was removed from the COVID-19 origins investigative team after exclusive National Pulse reporting into his unprecedented conflicts of interest.


"Please give us more american taxpayer dollars so we incompetent gongfei can screw the world AGAIN."


I thought she went missing.  Or was that another Chinese researcher?
Link Posted: 3/16/2022 12:36:12 AM EDT
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I know everyone is worried about Ukraine now, and the last wave seems to show everything getting better; but lets not let this slide into the archives yet.....
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