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11/26/2022 10:49:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

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11/26/2022 11:06:40 PM EDT
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11/27/2022 4:09:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JPN:


One of them has one more letter.
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Originally Posted By darkd0r:
What's the difference between a "quarantine center" and a concentration camp?


One of them has one more letter.

Got it!  Thank you!
11/27/2022 4:53:22 AM EDT
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What's the difference between both of them and technological imprisonment?

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The digital vaccine passports and required WHO-approved "vaccines" for international travel mandated by the G20 combined with CBDC being launched in countries around the world amount to police states, and personal carbon footprints or social credit scores equivalent to China's systems are next.
My personal defensive weapons self-identify as black-nitride-American high-speed wireless peacekeeping devices.
ALL gun control is unconstitutional infringement.
Be ungovernable.
Do not kneel.
11/27/2022 9:34:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/DF88EBBA-0002-477A-952B-E27B21C96591_jpe-2615172.JPG

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His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?
Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

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11/27/2022 7:09:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:



His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?
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Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/DF88EBBA-0002-477A-952B-E27B21C96591_jpe-2615172.JPG




His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?

Wasn't he banned?
11/27/2022 7:39:22 PM EDT
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Wasn't he banned?
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Originally Posted By Buzz69:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/DF88EBBA-0002-477A-952B-E27B21C96591_jpe-2615172.JPG




His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?

Wasn't he banned?


If my memory isn't off, he was banned, and arfcom's website no longer shows whether or not an account is locked/banned (mods and staff can see, but members can't).
Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY.
11/27/2022 7:46:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JPN:


If my memory isn't off, he was banned, and arfcom's website no longer shows whether or not an account is locked/banned (mods and staff can see, but members can't).
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Originally Posted By JPN:
Originally Posted By Buzz69:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/DF88EBBA-0002-477A-952B-E27B21C96591_jpe-2615172.JPG




His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?

Wasn't he banned?


If my memory isn't off, he was banned, and arfcom's website no longer shows whether or not an account is locked/banned (mods and staff can see, but members can't).

Yep.

A quick search shows he made a comment about a police officer that died of COVID.
11/27/2022 7:56:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JPN:


If my memory isn't off, he was banned, and arfcom's website no longer shows whether or not an account is locked/banned (mods and staff can see, but members can't).
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Originally Posted By JPN:
Originally Posted By Buzz69:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Hard to believe all the things that have happened since this thread started.

I just hope that Undefined is back under a new user name. He was all in and was “in on one” in this thread.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35314/DF88EBBA-0002-477A-952B-E27B21C96591_jpe-2615172.JPG




His last post was April of 2020 but he is still a PLATINUM Member, so somebody paid his membership within the last year.

He probably is not dead.

@Undefined

You ok bro?

Wasn't he banned?


If my memory isn't off, he was banned, and arfcom's website no longer shows whether or not an account is locked/banned (mods and staff can see, but members can't).



Didn't know that on both counts.
Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

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11/28/2022 9:26:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By viralinsurgency:


What's the difference between both of them and technological imprisonment?

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The digital vaccine passports and required WHO-approved "vaccines" for international travel mandated by the G20 combined with CBDC being launched in countries around the world amount to police states, and personal carbon footprints or social credit scores equivalent to China's systems are next.
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At this point, I'm convinced covid was not only intentionally released, but it was some globohomo conspiracy to bring about all of this bullshit. It's just too damned convenient how beneficial it's been to their evil little schemes. Couple that with the complete suppression of investigating the origins of covid. No government in the entire world wants to know how this happened? Sure.
11/28/2022 3:13:29 PM EDT
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At this point, I'm convinced covid was not only intentionally released, but it was some globohomo conspiracy to bring about all of this bullshit. It's just too damned convenient how beneficial it's been to their evil little schemes. Couple that with the complete suppression of investigating the origins of covid. No government in the entire world wants to know how this happened? Sure.
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And you're right.  Heck, they wrote a global epidemic into their Great Reset plan, and discussed it in speeches.  Before the lab leak.

Lockdowns, compliance cloth/face diapers and jab requirements were tests of the public's resistance to tyranny, which we failed.

They're already talking about the "next epidemic" as the reason we need digital vax ID's.  That's the G20's rationalization.

I predict a new, "unprecedented" strain in the next 3 months.  The world gov's will try to coerce humanity into lockdowns, boosters, masks...
My personal defensive weapons self-identify as black-nitride-American high-speed wireless peacekeeping devices.
ALL gun control is unconstitutional infringement.
Be ungovernable.
Do not kneel.
3/2/2023 9:27:43 AM EDT
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I know many looked at this thread, not sure if it would archive or not but just to make sure.....bump
RIP CeCe and FCSD you will be missed
Mike_314..If there was communism in the desert, there would soon be a shortage of sand.
87% shit posting - 13% I am caught in a rule change
RSM 20/21 RSL 4522: we will shit on your pillow.. (3613 note)
3/2/2023 10:29:23 AM EDT
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I wonder if my views on Covid would've been different if I hadn't kept up with this thread.  Good job all.
NRA Benefactor Life
3/2/2023 10:39:26 AM EDT
[#14]
A sociologist could write a doctoral thesis just on the contents of this thread.
2021, the year America died of democratism.
3/2/2023 3:21:02 PM EDT
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I know many looked at this thread, not sure if it would archive or not but just to make sure.....bump
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I have it set not to archive.
3/3/2023 2:06:24 PM EDT
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I had no clue how big this thread would be when I first posted it.

I just recently reread some of the posts here and it was interesting to see the timelines of events.

I would like to know if there is a way to DL this whole thread.
at some point David had to pick up that rock....
3/3/2023 3:41:37 PM EDT
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Gotcha, I wasn't sure and I know a few people that don't post here refence a few things....

RIP CeCe and FCSD you will be missed
Mike_314..If there was communism in the desert, there would soon be a shortage of sand.
87% shit posting - 13% I am caught in a rule change
RSM 20/21 RSL 4522: we will shit on your pillow.. (3613 note)
3/5/2023 3:48:28 PM EDT
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Links left cold.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230305075248/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/04/project-fear-covid-variant-lockdown-matt-hancock-whatsapp/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230305135707/https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hancock-wanted-to-deploy-new-covid-variant-and-frighten-the-pants-off-everyone/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230305035934/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11821671/Matt-Hancock-discussed-deploying-new-virus-variant-frighten-pants-everyone.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20230305051127/https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/05/matt-hancock-wanted-to-frighten-everyone-into-following-covid-rules

https://archive.is/ek6NV
https://archive.is/nliKU
https://archive.is/PKHJE
https://archive.is/0shrQ

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/04/project-fear-covid-variant-lockdown-matt-hancock-whatsapp/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hancock-wanted-to-deploy-new-covid-variant-and-frighten-the-pants-off-everyone/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/05/matt-hancock-wanted-to-frighten-everyone-into-following-covid-rules

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11821671/Matt-Hancock-discussed-deploying-new-virus-variant-frighten-pants-everyone.html
3/9/2023 2:19:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stampkolektor:


I had no clue how big this thread would be when I first posted it.

I just recently reread some of the posts here and it was interesting to see the timelines of events.

I would like to know if there is a way to DL this whole thread.
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Originally Posted By medicmandan:



I have it set not to archive.


I had no clue how big this thread would be when I first posted it.

I just recently reread some of the posts here and it was interesting to see the timelines of events.

I would like to know if there is a way to DL this whole thread.

Yes, but it'll drive you insane doing it.

At page one:

Open it on a desktop browser, file/save/save as complete HTML.

Repeat that for pages 2-2505.

You will have a stack of HTML and "(page name) files" folders that contains all the assets the html needs to display the page you saved.
5/21/2023 9:35:04 PM EDT
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Bump for no archive hopefully
But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true
5/21/2023 11:09:56 PM EDT
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This is set not to archive.
5/25/2023 10:42:46 AM EDT
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5/25/2023 12:41:46 PM EDT
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So... time for an international blockade of China?  No planes, ships, trucks, cars, tuk-tuks, scooters, or bicycles allowed in or out of their country until they get their shit sorted out and quit playing with stuff they obviously can't control?
Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY.
5/25/2023 6:19:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JPN:


So... time for an international blockade of China?  No planes, ships, trucks, cars, tuk-tuks, scooters, or bicycles allowed in or out of their country until they get their shit sorted out and quit playing with stuff they obviously can't control?
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Originally Posted By JPN:


So... time for an international blockade of China?  No planes, ships, trucks, cars, tuk-tuks, scooters, or bicycles allowed in or out of their country until they get their shit sorted out and quit playing with stuff they obviously can't control?


The Liberal / Never Trumper / CIA Run Media meltdown about Trump with the nuclear codes makes a bunch more sense now.
That entire debacle made no sense to me, because why the fuck would Trump be adamant about nuking Chyna?
Makes a hell of a lot more sense now.

Member when the media spent a week screeching that the military wouldn't let Trump nuke Chyna?
Member when General Miley committed treason to let the Chinese know Trump was trying to nuke them?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-military-adviser-secretly-assured-china-trump-attack/story?id=80014752
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/09/14/gen-mark-milley-worried-trump-could-launch-nuclear-attack/8334915002/
5/25/2023 6:53:20 PM EDT
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Thank fucking god they had both of those vaccines ready and available for a "spontaneous", world-ending strain that manifested out of the blue like that. I mean fuck. For a minute I thought it was another globalist depopulation scheme playing out but dismissed it on account of that being a completely crazy and irrational theory by someone like me. Pheww. Close call.
5/26/2023 7:27:30 PM EDT
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Just in time for the next US election
5/28/2023 12:47:03 AM EDT
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5/28/2023 8:32:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

Thank fucking god they had both of those vaccines ready and available for a "spontaneous", world-ending strain that manifested out of the blue like that. I mean fuck. For a minute I thought it was another globalist depopulation scheme playing out but dismissed it on account of that being a completely crazy and irrational theory by someone like me. Pheww. Close call.
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I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.
5/28/2023 8:53:26 PM EDT
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First thought!
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
5/29/2023 8:20:44 AM EDT
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I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.
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You're not the only one thinking the very same thing.
For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
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5/29/2023 11:37:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.
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Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

Thank fucking god they had both of those vaccines ready and available for a "spontaneous", world-ending strain that manifested out of the blue like that. I mean fuck. For a minute I thought it was another globalist depopulation scheme playing out but dismissed it on account of that being a completely crazy and irrational theory by someone like me. Pheww. Close call.

I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.

Or as one blogger has theorized, one that targets the vaccinated.  It's our first time not using the entire viral encoding to "vaccinate" people.  Asymmetries can be leveraged.
What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
5/29/2023 3:30:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

Thank fucking god they had both of those vaccines ready and available for a "spontaneous", world-ending strain that manifested out of the blue like that. I mean fuck. For a minute I thought it was another globalist depopulation scheme playing out but dismissed it on account of that being a completely crazy and irrational theory by someone like me. Pheww. Close call.

I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.

It's going to be COVID-23. It's slated to be released in November this year. It should be more virulent and deadlier than COVID-19, especially for the vaxxed and immunocompromised. The WHO and everybody else is warning that a deadlier strain can "manifest" out of the blue. Plus, they already conducted another exercise last year that "simulated" it. Remember what happened when they "simulated" Monkeypox? Be ready. COVID-23 should stress the economy even more and begin the collapse in 2024.
7/17/2023 7:34:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

It's going to be COVID-23. It's slated to be released in November this year. It should be more virulent and deadlier than COVID-19, especially for the vaxxed and immunocompromised. The WHO and everybody else is warning that a deadlier strain can "manifest" out of the blue. Plus, they already conducted another exercise last year that "simulated" it. Remember what happened when they "simulated" Monkeypox? Be ready. COVID-23 should stress the economy even more and begin the collapse in 2024.
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Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:
Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

Thank fucking god they had both of those vaccines ready and available for a "spontaneous", world-ending strain that manifested out of the blue like that. I mean fuck. For a minute I thought it was another globalist depopulation scheme playing out but dismissed it on account of that being a completely crazy and irrational theory by someone like me. Pheww. Close call.

I said it in some other threads. Now that we know/think C19 is a joke. I'm waiting for them to unleash one that actually does what most people were thinking C19 was gonna do.

It's going to be COVID-23. It's slated to be released in November this year. It should be more virulent and deadlier than COVID-19, especially for the vaxxed and immunocompromised. The WHO and everybody else is warning that a deadlier strain can "manifest" out of the blue. Plus, they already conducted another exercise last year that "simulated" it. Remember what happened when they "simulated" Monkeypox? Be ready. COVID-23 should stress the economy even more and begin the collapse in 2024.

... and we have the variants of the 1918 spanish flu going around, and I bet the infectivity of it is wild-high too.
2/22/2025 5:27:05 PM EDT
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https://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674(25)00144-8

https://archive.is/https://www.cell.com/cell/abstract/S0092-8674(25)00144-8

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3299491/chinese-team-finds-new-bat-coronavirus-could-infect-humans-same-route-covid

A Chinese team has found a new bat coronavirus that carries the risk of animal-to-human transmission because it uses the same human receptor as the virus that causes Covid-19.
The study was led by Shi Zhengli – a leading virologist known as the “batwoman” due to her extensive research on bat coronaviruses – at the Guangzhou Laboratory along with researchers from the Guangzhou Academy of Sciences, Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Shi is best known for her work at the Wuhan institute, which has been at the centre of the controversy about the origins of Covid, with one theory suggesting it came from a lab leak in the city.


We *know* it came from that lab.





KanekoaTheGreat@KanekoaTheGreat  7h
A 2014 archived USAID report proudly states that the agency funded research on "novel bat SARS-like coronaviruses" at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

These newly identified coronaviruses were found to bind to the human ACE-2 receptor, suggesting the potential for direct transmission from bats to humans.

Similarly, SARS-CoV-2—the virus responsible for COVID-19—exhibited a highly efficient ability to bind to the ACE-2 receptor, significantly enhancing its ability to infect humans.

The USAID report states:

"In China, PREDICT partnered with USAID and set up long-term collaborations with the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

"PREDICT isolated for the first time SARS-like coronaviruses from bats sampled in China, fully characterized the whole genome of two novel bat SARS-like coronaviruses, and demonstrated a bat SARS-like coronavirus with 99.98% sequence homology to SARS coronavirus. The virus was found to bind to the human ACE-2 cell receptor, suggesting that direct transmission to humans from bats is possible."

"PREDICT has found a surprisingly high number of positives of SARS-like coronaviruses in bats sampled in China. Several of these viruses were novel, and some bats tested positive for multiple novel viruses."

"PREDICT investigators also isolated for the first time and characterized the binding receptor from a SARS-like coronavirus from a Chinese horseshoe bat (Rhinolophus sinicus; Ge et al. 2013). Results showed the virus was able to bind to the human ACE-2 cell receptor, suggesting that direct transmission to humans from bats is possible."

Was research on novel bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology a good use of American taxpayer funds?

Link below??











Source link from this tweet:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240916061534/https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PBAAF347.pdf

https://archive.is/L1fpf

We have known for a long time.

That lab - that the french helped them build - has had complaints against it since before sars 2 for incompetence and bad practice.

It was put there because during the obama era the west mostly made gain of function illegal (and for incredibly good reasons). Communist gongfei will do stuff so stupid that even *our* incompetents disagree with it.





https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092867425001448

Click To View Spoiler

They are hiding the fulltext of it it behind a paywall.


Lock all the GOF scientists in that joint...


and:
3/20/2025 4:41:30 PM EDT
[#35]

https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465]https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465
Nicolas Hulscher, MPH@NicHulscher          Mar 16
??REMINDER - The largest COVID-19 “vaccine” safety study ever conducted, involving 99 million individuals, confirmed that the injections are NOT SAFE FOR HUMAN USE:

? 610% increased risk of myocarditis following mRNA platform injection.
? 378% increased risk of acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following mRNA injection.
? 323% increased risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) following viral-vector injection.
? 249% increased risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) following viral-vector injection.



Mar 16, 2025 · 6:48 PM UTC


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38350768/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270/pdfft?md5=8a19de6aed89a064eee804361044f40c&pid=1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-main.pdf
3.3. Cardiovascular conditions
Increased OE ratios fulfilling the threshold of prioritised safety signals for myocarditis were consistently identified following a first, second and third dose of mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) (Table 4). The highest OE ratio was observed following a first and second dose of mRNA-1273 (3.48; 95 % CI: 3.00, 4.01 and 6.10; 95 % CI: 5.52, 6.72, respectively).

The OE ratio following a third dose of mRNA-1273 was 2.01 (95 % CI: 1.60, 2.49). The numbers of events for up to four doses of homologous schedules are shown in Fig. 3. The OE ratios of homologous schedules align with the aggregated OE ratios. The homologous OE for myocarditis following four doses of mRNA-1273 vaccine could not be estimated due to a lack of observed events.

Similarly, the OE ratio for pericarditis fulfilled the threshold of a prioritised safety signal following a first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, with OE ratios of 1.74 (95 % CI: 1.54, 1.97) and 2.64 (95 % CI: 2.05, 3.35) respectively. An increased ratio of 6.91 (95 % CI: 3.45, 12.36), fulfilling the threshold of a prioritised safety signal, was also observed following a third dose of ChAdOx1. The aggregated OE ratios for pericarditis were increased following all doses of all the three vaccines presented (Table 4).

The results are very similar to the ratios of homologous schedules (Fig. 3), except for the OE ratio of 1.23 (95 % CI: 0.45–2.69) after receipt of the fourth mRNA-1273 dose, which did not meet the threshold for a safety signal. The homologous OE ratio following a third dose of ChAdOx1 was not reported as only a small number of third doses of ChAdOx1 were given across study sites (Table1).
Moreover, we observed significantly higher risks of myocarditis following the first, second and third doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 as well as pericarditis after the first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, and third dose of ChAdOx1, in the 0–42 days risk period. The elevated rates of pericarditis following ChAdOx1 vaccination identified in this study rely on a limited number of observed counts in the meta-analysis.

The wide confidence interval underscores the substantial uncertainty of characterizing pericarditis as a safety signal following ChAdOx1 vaccination. However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21], [22], [23], [34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35], [36]. Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period. A systematic review by Alami et al. [38]

concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82). Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21], [23]. TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39], [40].
You said

what does O:E mean in terms of a medical study


Copilot said

In medical studies, "O:E" typically refers to the "Observed-to-Expected" ratio. This ratio is used to compare the number of observed outcomes (e.g., cases of a disease, adverse events, etc.) in a study population to the number of outcomes that would be expected based on a reference population or statistical model.

For example:

  O:E = 1 suggests that the observed and expected outcomes are equal.

  O:E > 1 indicates that there are more observed outcomes than expected.

  O:E < 1 means there are fewer observed outcomes than expected.

This metric is often used to evaluate risks, assess treatment effects, or identify unusual trends.
Myo and pericarditis risks for 17 and under.

This is from an AI. Take it with a few barrels of salt!
You said
now for both of those factors, make certain you only estimated that for minors aged 17 or younger


Copilot said

The rates of myocarditis and pericarditis in minors aged 17 or younger due to viral and bacterial infections are as follows:

Factor 1: Viral Infections

  Viral myocarditis is more common in children and adolescents. The incidence is estimated to be 1 to 2 cases per 100,000 children annually. Common viral culprits include Coxsackievirus, adenovirus, and influenza.

  Pericarditis due to viral infections in children is less frequently reported, but it is generally rarer than myocarditis.

Factor 2: Bacterial Infections

  Myocarditis caused by bacterial infections in children is rare. For example, Corynebacterium diphtheriae myocarditis has been reported at approximately 0.1 cases per 100,000 children annually in regions where diphtheria is endemic.

  Pericarditis due to bacterial infections, such as Streptococcus or Staphylococcus species, is also uncommon but can occur in cases of severe bacterial infections.

These estimates are based on available epidemiological data and may vary by region and population. If you'd like more specific data or further details, let me know!
The sources it linked:

What is myocarditis and pericarditis? | Circulatory System and Disease | NCLEX-RN | Khan Academy


Myocarditis & Pericarditis (Myopericarditis Explained)


Myocarditis - causes, symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, pathology
when in america were the covid vaccines first considered as reccomended for 18 and under

COVID-19 vaccines were first recommended for individuals aged 18 and under in the United States in June 2022. At that time, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) endorsed the use of Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines for children aged 6 months to 5 years
By this time everyone paying attention already knew and were effectively fully aware of what was really going on.

We already knew kids never should have gotten the things, for any reason.
Table 3. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, neurological conditions, period 0–42 days.

AESI: GBS = Guillain-Barré syndrome, TRM = Transverse myelitis, BP = Facial (Bell’s) palsy, ADEM = Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, FSZ = Febrile seizures,
GSZ = Generalised seizures.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 4. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, haematologic conditions, period 0–42 days.
AESI: THR = Thrombocytopenia, ITP = Idiopathic thrombocytopenia, PEM = Pulmonary embolism, CVST = Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, SVT = Splanchnic vein thrombosis.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 5. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, cardiovascular conditions, period 0–42 days.
However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21–23,34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35,36].

Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period.

A systematic review by Alami et al. [38] concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/ pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82).

Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21,23].

TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39,40].
3/20/2025 5:15:58 PM EDT
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@flashman-7k

Wow, I followed this thread from page from the start of this epic catastrophe.

Thanks for keeping it alive. It highly impacted many of my decisions, for the better.
3/20/2025 5:17:56 PM EDT
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@flashman-7k

Wow, I followed this thread from page from the start of this epic catastrophe.

Thanks for keeping it alive. It highly impacted many of my decisions, for the better.
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YW.

eta: I'm also pretty sure staff or mods or someone put the thread on  "doesn't archive."
3/20/2025 6:59:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Crazy how fast 5 years flew by.  Still feels like yesterday at times.
What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
3/20/2025 8:33:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465]https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465
Nicolas Hulscher, MPH@NicHulscher          Mar 16
??REMINDER - The largest COVID-19 “vaccine” safety study ever conducted, involving 99 million individuals, confirmed that the injections are NOT SAFE FOR HUMAN USE:

? 610% increased risk of myocarditis following mRNA platform injection.
? 378% increased risk of acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following mRNA injection.
? 323% increased risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) following viral-vector injection.
? 249% increased risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) following viral-vector injection.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmLvJh3akAADiDb?format=jpg&name=orig

Mar 16, 2025 · 6:48 PM UTC


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38350768/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270/pdfft?md5=8a19de6aed89a064eee804361044f40c&pid=1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-main.pdf
3.3. Cardiovascular conditions
Increased OE ratios fulfilling the threshold of prioritised safety signals for myocarditis were consistently identified following a first, second and third dose of mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) (Table 4). The highest OE ratio was observed following a first and second dose of mRNA-1273 (3.48; 95 % CI: 3.00, 4.01 and 6.10; 95 % CI: 5.52, 6.72, respectively).

The OE ratio following a third dose of mRNA-1273 was 2.01 (95 % CI: 1.60, 2.49). The numbers of events for up to four doses of homologous schedules are shown in Fig. 3. The OE ratios of homologous schedules align with the aggregated OE ratios. The homologous OE for myocarditis following four doses of mRNA-1273 vaccine could not be estimated due to a lack of observed events.

Similarly, the OE ratio for pericarditis fulfilled the threshold of a prioritised safety signal following a first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, with OE ratios of 1.74 (95 % CI: 1.54, 1.97) and 2.64 (95 % CI: 2.05, 3.35) respectively. An increased ratio of 6.91 (95 % CI: 3.45, 12.36), fulfilling the threshold of a prioritised safety signal, was also observed following a third dose of ChAdOx1. The aggregated OE ratios for pericarditis were increased following all doses of all the three vaccines presented (Table 4).

The results are very similar to the ratios of homologous schedules (Fig. 3), except for the OE ratio of 1.23 (95 % CI: 0.45–2.69) after receipt of the fourth mRNA-1273 dose, which did not meet the threshold for a safety signal. The homologous OE ratio following a third dose of ChAdOx1 was not reported as only a small number of third doses of ChAdOx1 were given across study sites (Table1).
Moreover, we observed significantly higher risks of myocarditis following the first, second and third doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 as well as pericarditis after the first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, and third dose of ChAdOx1, in the 0–42 days risk period. The elevated rates of pericarditis following ChAdOx1 vaccination identified in this study rely on a limited number of observed counts in the meta-analysis.

The wide confidence interval underscores the substantial uncertainty of characterizing pericarditis as a safety signal following ChAdOx1 vaccination. However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21], [22], [23], [34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35], [36]. Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period. A systematic review by Alami et al. [38]

concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82). Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21], [23]. TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39], [40].
You said

what does O:E mean in terms of a medical study


Copilot said

In medical studies, "O:E" typically refers to the "Observed-to-Expected" ratio. This ratio is used to compare the number of observed outcomes (e.g., cases of a disease, adverse events, etc.) in a study population to the number of outcomes that would be expected based on a reference population or statistical model.

For example:

  O:E = 1 suggests that the observed and expected outcomes are equal.

  O:E > 1 indicates that there are more observed outcomes than expected.

  O:E < 1 means there are fewer observed outcomes than expected.

This metric is often used to evaluate risks, assess treatment effects, or identify unusual trends.
Myo and pericarditis risks for 17 and under.

This is from an AI. Take it with a few barrels of salt!
You said
now for both of those factors, make certain you only estimated that for minors aged 17 or younger


Copilot said

The rates of myocarditis and pericarditis in minors aged 17 or younger due to viral and bacterial infections are as follows:

Factor 1: Viral Infections

  Viral myocarditis is more common in children and adolescents. The incidence is estimated to be 1 to 2 cases per 100,000 children annually. Common viral culprits include Coxsackievirus, adenovirus, and influenza.

  Pericarditis due to viral infections in children is less frequently reported, but it is generally rarer than myocarditis.

Factor 2: Bacterial Infections

  Myocarditis caused by bacterial infections in children is rare. For example, Corynebacterium diphtheriae myocarditis has been reported at approximately 0.1 cases per 100,000 children annually in regions where diphtheria is endemic.

  Pericarditis due to bacterial infections, such as Streptococcus or Staphylococcus species, is also uncommon but can occur in cases of severe bacterial infections.

These estimates are based on available epidemiological data and may vary by region and population. If you'd like more specific data or further details, let me know!
The sources it linked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL98lBuAn1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4sHhmfRaFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNnL_uMrco
when in america were the covid vaccines first considered as reccomended for 18 and under

COVID-19 vaccines were first recommended for individuals aged 18 and under in the United States in June 2022. At that time, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) endorsed the use of Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines for children aged 6 months to 5 years
By this time everyone paying attention already knew and were effectively fully aware of what was really going on.

We already knew kids never should have gotten the things, for any reason.
Table 3. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, neurological conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx2.jpg
AESI: GBS = Guillain-Barré syndrome, TRM = Transverse myelitis, BP = Facial (Bell’s) palsy, ADEM = Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, FSZ = Febrile seizures,
GSZ = Generalised seizures.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 4. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, haematologic conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx3.jpg
AESI: THR = Thrombocytopenia, ITP = Idiopathic thrombocytopenia, PEM = Pulmonary embolism, CVST = Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, SVT = Splanchnic vein thrombosis.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 5. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, cardiovascular conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx4.jpg
However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21–23,34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35,36].

Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period.

A systematic review by Alami et al. [38] concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/ pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82).

Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21,23].

TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39,40].
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And I thought the reports of cases of myocarditis after injection was enough to decide that I didn't want anything to do with that "vaccine".
Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY.
3/20/2025 9:27:24 PM EDT
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And I thought the reports of cases of myocarditis after injection was enough to decide that I didn't want anything to do with that "vaccine".
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Originally Posted By JPN:
Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465]https://twitter.com/NicHulscher/status/1901344944448766465
Nicolas Hulscher, MPH@NicHulscher          Mar 16
??REMINDER - The largest COVID-19 “vaccine” safety study ever conducted, involving 99 million individuals, confirmed that the injections are NOT SAFE FOR HUMAN USE:

? 610% increased risk of myocarditis following mRNA platform injection.
? 378% increased risk of acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following mRNA injection.
? 323% increased risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) following viral-vector injection.
? 249% increased risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) following viral-vector injection.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmLvJh3akAADiDb?format=jpg&name=orig

Mar 16, 2025 · 6:48 PM UTC


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38350768/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270/pdfft?md5=8a19de6aed89a064eee804361044f40c&pid=1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-main.pdf
3.3. Cardiovascular conditions
Increased OE ratios fulfilling the threshold of prioritised safety signals for myocarditis were consistently identified following a first, second and third dose of mRNA vaccines (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) (Table 4). The highest OE ratio was observed following a first and second dose of mRNA-1273 (3.48; 95 % CI: 3.00, 4.01 and 6.10; 95 % CI: 5.52, 6.72, respectively).

The OE ratio following a third dose of mRNA-1273 was 2.01 (95 % CI: 1.60, 2.49). The numbers of events for up to four doses of homologous schedules are shown in Fig. 3. The OE ratios of homologous schedules align with the aggregated OE ratios. The homologous OE for myocarditis following four doses of mRNA-1273 vaccine could not be estimated due to a lack of observed events.

Similarly, the OE ratio for pericarditis fulfilled the threshold of a prioritised safety signal following a first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, with OE ratios of 1.74 (95 % CI: 1.54, 1.97) and 2.64 (95 % CI: 2.05, 3.35) respectively. An increased ratio of 6.91 (95 % CI: 3.45, 12.36), fulfilling the threshold of a prioritised safety signal, was also observed following a third dose of ChAdOx1. The aggregated OE ratios for pericarditis were increased following all doses of all the three vaccines presented (Table 4).

The results are very similar to the ratios of homologous schedules (Fig. 3), except for the OE ratio of 1.23 (95 % CI: 0.45–2.69) after receipt of the fourth mRNA-1273 dose, which did not meet the threshold for a safety signal. The homologous OE ratio following a third dose of ChAdOx1 was not reported as only a small number of third doses of ChAdOx1 were given across study sites (Table1).
Moreover, we observed significantly higher risks of myocarditis following the first, second and third doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 as well as pericarditis after the first and fourth dose of mRNA-1273, and third dose of ChAdOx1, in the 0–42 days risk period. The elevated rates of pericarditis following ChAdOx1 vaccination identified in this study rely on a limited number of observed counts in the meta-analysis.

The wide confidence interval underscores the substantial uncertainty of characterizing pericarditis as a safety signal following ChAdOx1 vaccination. However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21], [22], [23], [34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35], [36]. Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period. A systematic review by Alami et al. [38]

concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82). Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21], [23]. TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39], [40].
You said

what does O:E mean in terms of a medical study


Copilot said

In medical studies, "O:E" typically refers to the "Observed-to-Expected" ratio. This ratio is used to compare the number of observed outcomes (e.g., cases of a disease, adverse events, etc.) in a study population to the number of outcomes that would be expected based on a reference population or statistical model.

For example:

  O:E = 1 suggests that the observed and expected outcomes are equal.

  O:E > 1 indicates that there are more observed outcomes than expected.

  O:E < 1 means there are fewer observed outcomes than expected.

This metric is often used to evaluate risks, assess treatment effects, or identify unusual trends.
Myo and pericarditis risks for 17 and under.

This is from an AI. Take it with a few barrels of salt!
You said
now for both of those factors, make certain you only estimated that for minors aged 17 or younger


Copilot said

The rates of myocarditis and pericarditis in minors aged 17 or younger due to viral and bacterial infections are as follows:

Factor 1: Viral Infections

  Viral myocarditis is more common in children and adolescents. The incidence is estimated to be 1 to 2 cases per 100,000 children annually. Common viral culprits include Coxsackievirus, adenovirus, and influenza.

  Pericarditis due to viral infections in children is less frequently reported, but it is generally rarer than myocarditis.

Factor 2: Bacterial Infections

  Myocarditis caused by bacterial infections in children is rare. For example, Corynebacterium diphtheriae myocarditis has been reported at approximately 0.1 cases per 100,000 children annually in regions where diphtheria is endemic.

  Pericarditis due to bacterial infections, such as Streptococcus or Staphylococcus species, is also uncommon but can occur in cases of severe bacterial infections.

These estimates are based on available epidemiological data and may vary by region and population. If you'd like more specific data or further details, let me know!
The sources it linked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL98lBuAn1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4sHhmfRaFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNnL_uMrco
when in america were the covid vaccines first considered as reccomended for 18 and under

COVID-19 vaccines were first recommended for individuals aged 18 and under in the United States in June 2022. At that time, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) endorsed the use of Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines for children aged 6 months to 5 years
By this time everyone paying attention already knew and were effectively fully aware of what was really going on.

We already knew kids never should have gotten the things, for any reason.
Table 3. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, neurological conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx2.jpg
AESI: GBS = Guillain-Barré syndrome, TRM = Transverse myelitis, BP = Facial (Bell’s) palsy, ADEM = Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, FSZ = Febrile seizures,
GSZ = Generalised seizures.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 4. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, haematologic conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx3.jpg
AESI: THR = Thrombocytopenia, ITP = Idiopathic thrombocytopenia, PEM = Pulmonary embolism, CVST = Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, SVT = Splanchnic vein thrombosis.
Vaccines: Pfizer/BioNTech (BNT162b2), Moderna (mRNA-1273), and Oxford/Astra Zeneca/Serum Institute of India (ChAdOx1).
Table 5. Aggregated OE Ratios by last dose, cardiovascular conditions, period 0–42 days.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0264410X24001270-fx4.jpg
However, our study confirms findings of previously identified rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis following first and second doses of mRNA vaccines [21–23,34].

A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].

Similarly, studies from British Columbia, Canada reported cases of myocarditis to be higher among those receiving a second dose compared with a third dose, and for those who received a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine compared with the BNT162b2 vaccine [35,36].

Patone et al. [37] estimated extra myocarditis events to be between one and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection period.

A systematic review by Alami et al. [38] concluded that mRNA vaccinated individuals were twice as likely to develop myocarditis/ pericarditis compared with unvaccinated individuals, with a rate ratio of 2.05 (95 % CI 1.49–2.82).

Given the evidence, WHO issued updated guidance regarding these safety signals and mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, and EMA provided updates to the Product Information for BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines [21,23].

TGA as well as the CDC continue to monitor and review data on myocarditis and pericarditis following COVID-19 vaccination [39,40].



And I thought the reports of cases of myocarditis after injection was enough to decide that I didn't want anything to do with that "vaccine".

I would be shocked if big pharma corps weren't trying to get it added to the standard vaccine panels.

Also, I don't recall what ever came of the novavax.
3/21/2025 10:57:15 AM EDT
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@flashman-7k

Wow, I followed this thread from page from the start of this epic catastrophe.

Thanks for keeping it alive. It highly impacted many of my decisions, for the better.
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Ditto.  Can you imagine how it would have been for us without forums such as this to openly converse and share data & opinions on this topic?   The unwashed masses were given a mandate to rage in our faces while any dissenters were beat into having hushed conversations in back alleys.
3/22/2025 7:59:31 PM EDT
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Ditto.  Can you imagine how it would have been for us without forums such as this to openly converse and share data & opinions on this topic?   The unwashed masses were given a mandate to rage in our faces while any dissenters were beat into having hushed conversations in back alleys.
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Originally Posted By belted_guns:
@flashman-7k

Wow, I followed this thread from page from the start of this epic catastrophe.

Thanks for keeping it alive. It highly impacted many of my decisions, for the better.


Ditto.  Can you imagine how it would have been for us without forums such as this to openly converse and share data & opinions on this topic?   The unwashed masses were given a mandate to rage in our faces while any dissenters were beat into having hushed conversations in back alleys.


Same here. Only 3 of us at work didn't get the vax.
“A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” James 1:8 KJV

"Can a man who's warm understand one who's freezing?" Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
3/27/2025 10:37:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

I would be shocked if big pharma corps weren't trying to get it added to the standard vaccine panels.

Also, I don't recall what ever came of the novavax.
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Hell, the CDC is STILL recommending that by the time a baby is 9 months old it should have 3 covid mRNA shots into them. That's not likely to change with this new Director either.
4/15/2025 3:57:04 PM EDT
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I came back to this thread last year and re-read it.

It is crazy how it unfolded, and how this thread is a time capsule of that era.

Hopefully it will never be archived so I can keep coming back.
at some point David had to pick up that rock....
8/14/2025 12:53:51 PM EDT
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during covid wife and I watched  Kngs  The Stand. scared the hell out of us.

Im watching again.   Its a true   horror moive with  all of us in in it.

The Chicoms loosed  covid 19 to end Trumps reelexction.  He is still there, so I predict the next roind wont be as nice

Cinnes have peple to spare
8/14/2025 2:44:29 PM EDT
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Thread of Doom still going!!!

April 2000 or so I had WAY too much fun poking the doomers. i almost got a warning from the mod and in hindsight I'm surprised I didn't. Sorry Brass.

Anyone have any good pine needle recipes for after the collapse from most of the population dying off? ?
But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true
8/14/2025 2:59:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jvm:
during covid wife and I watched  Kngs  The Stand. scared the hell out of us.

Im watching again.   Its a true   horror moive with  all of us in in it.

The Chicoms loosed  covid 19 to end Trumps reelexction.  He is still there, so I predict the next roind wont be as nice

Cinnes have peple to spare
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I don't think they loosed it on purpose, I think it got loose from ineptitude, and China possibly helped spread around so every one was on an equal footing with China. A LOT of the stories and video from China from that time was wholy made up disinformation to spread fear.  I think the Dems seized the opportunity from the virus to target Trump.
But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true
8/14/2025 7:33:13 PM EDT
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I don't think they loosed it on purpose, I think it got loose from ineptitude, and China possibly helped spread around so every one was on an equal footing with China. A LOT of the stories and video from China from that time was wholy made up disinformation to spread fear.  I think the Dems seized the opportunity from the virus to target Trump.
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Originally Posted By jvm:
during covid wife and I watched  Kngs  The Stand. scared the hell out of us.

Im watching again.   Its a true   horror moive with  all of us in in it.

The Chicoms loosed  covid 19 to end Trumps reelexction.  He is still there, so I predict the next roind wont be as nice

Cinnes have peple to spare


I don't think they loosed it on purpose, I think it got loose from ineptitude, and China possibly helped spread around so every one was on an equal footing with China. A LOT of the stories and video from China from that time was wholy made up disinformation to spread fear.  I think the Dems seized the opportunity from the virus to target Trump.

The whole thing was war gamed just days before . They may like the "accident" as cover but , i believe it was ALL coordinated.  
8/14/2025 8:19:43 PM EDT
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The whole thing was war gamed just days before . They may like the "accident" as cover but , i believe it was ALL coordinated.  
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Originally Posted By David0858:
Originally Posted By jvm:
during covid wife and I watched  Kngs  The Stand. scared the hell out of us.

Im watching again.   Its a true   horror moive with  all of us in in it.

The Chicoms loosed  covid 19 to end Trumps reelexction.  He is still there, so I predict the next roind wont be as nice

Cinnes have peple to spare


I don't think they loosed it on purpose, I think it got loose from ineptitude, and China possibly helped spread around so every one was on an equal footing with China. A LOT of the stories and video from China from that time was wholy made up disinformation to spread fear.  I think the Dems seized the opportunity from the virus to target Trump.

The whole thing was war gamed just days before . They may like the "accident" as cover but , i believe it was ALL coordinated.  

Even if the release was somehow accidental, they quickly moved to spread it to other countries, likely with an intent to make it harder to identify them as the source and to take what advantage they could from the situation.  In the end, their own choices and actions diminished the argument over whether or not the release was intentional, because they ended up doing the same things that they likely would have done if it was intentional.
Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY.
8/18/2025 12:02:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jvm:
during covid wife and I watched  Kngs  The Stand. scared the hell out of us.

Im watching again.   Its a true   horror moive with  all of us in in it.

The Chicoms loosed  covid 19 to end Trumps reelexction.  He is still there, so I predict the next roind wont be as nice

Cinnes have peple to spare
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They just approved this new flu vaccine, the Trump Administration did this. it sheds like a mofo. Going to be a bad flu year.
Let's not forget they also recently fully approved Moderna covid shots starting at 6 months and up. You know, the one known for causing worse heart issues than Pfizer.
https://drbowden.substack.com/p/flumist-vaccine-approved-for-home?r=sezjh&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

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