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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:02:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Just remember ... that dude was able to circumvent a multi-layer security line ... walk up with an AR15 ... climb a roof ... and no one took a shot at him ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By Captain_Morgan: Originally Posted By Rebel31: From what I can tell the CS team in that building was state police. The cop that took a picture of him 26 minutes before the shooting was a local town cop. I can only surmise the agency to agency communication is super poor and the briefings about who is supposed to be where is not communicated all that well. The town cop probably had no idea there was a CS team sitting inside or got briefed at 0500 at was half asleep. I can easily also see the SS CS team being told the state police wouldn't be on the roof but after shots fired taking longer than normal to ensure they wouldn't brain a cop who ended up there anyway. Changing plans can create confusion at the moment you're about to take someone's life. Are we thinking that the picture below is the initial one taken by the police? https://i.ibb.co/GWZzVBt/IMG-9652.webp Just remember ... that dude was able to circumvent a multi-layer security line ... walk up with an AR15 ... climb a roof ... and no one took a shot at him ... Pretty wild considering he looks like a literal goblin. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:03:46 PM EST
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 A dozen! |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:04:22 PM EST
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I assume the SS has a mobile command post they bring with them.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:04:58 PM EST
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The man is at the Convention!
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:05:28 PM EST
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My prez!!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:06:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: And to add, picked the correct spot that CAT team could not spot him, on the exact roof that local police were supposed to be manning, all while people are pointing and yelling, that he’s got a gun, after being identified previously as a suspicious person. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: Originally Posted By thehun06: Just remember ... that dude was able to circumvent a multi-layer security line ... walk up with an AR15 ... climb a roof ... and no one took a shot at him ... And to add, picked the correct spot that CAT team could not spot him, on the exact roof that local police were supposed to be manning, all while people are pointing and yelling, that he’s got a gun, after being identified previously as a suspicious person. He was a jedi-ninja on that day . |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:07:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: That's even sadder. He spent $1400 to talk to someone on OF? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: But what did he pay $1400 to that OF hooker for?  That's even sadder. He spent $1400 to talk to someone on OF? Incels are the greatest threat to our nation! Legalizing Great Value priced prostitution would fix this. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:07:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: It's gonna be really fucking awkward at the next local Butler Police vs FireDep softball game. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By NeverBlue: No AC for the SSCS teams on the other roofs. I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror, much less family & friends. It's gonna be really fucking awkward at the next local Butler Police vs FireDep softball game.  |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:07:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: No. It was purchased by his dad years ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: That guy should have never been able to get within an earshot of trump. With a full size rifle. It's not like he had an NAA mini revolver hidden in his ass. That I might be able to understand. I'm thinking someone gave him the rifle. From inside the temporary cop building - where rifles are supposed to be, perhaps? No. It was purchased by his dad years ago. That doesn't disprove what I said. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:07:44 PM EST
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Trump at RNC Live
 Trump LIVE: Donald Trump at Republican National Convention 2024 | JD Vance | RNC 2024 LIVE | N18G |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:07:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: glock27bill]
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Dunno if this has been posted before. Thirty seven minute interview with Erik Prince (Blackwater founder) by Patrick Bet-David.
So much WTF, but Prince stops short of saying what we're all thinking.  Assassination Attempt: Secret Service Breakdowns w/ Blackwater's Erik Prince | PBD Podcast | Ep. 439 |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:08:09 PM EST
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What makes sense to me is that the right confluence of events happened to allow for him to do this. Or it was... something else. I honestly don't think we'll ever really know.
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:08:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: That's even sadder. He spent $1400 to talk to someone on OF? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: But what did he pay $1400 to that OF hooker for? That's even sadder. He spent $1400 to talk to someone on OF? Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:09:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: LOL ... NO The shooter took the AR from his own Father, who purchased it 10+ years ago. Bigger_Hammer  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: I'm thinking someone gave him the rifle. From inside the temporary cop building - where rifles are supposed to be, perhaps? LOL ... NO The shooter took the AR from his own Father, who purchased it 10+ years ago. Bigger_Hammer You've already outed yourself. You're irrelevant to these discussions |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:10:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: You've already outed yourself. You're irrelevant to these discussions We have the information we have. And educated guesses. Baseless speculation is irrelevant to this discussion. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:11:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GGF: The man is at the Convention! Trying to find a station where I can watch the convention, the actual convention, not some loopy cunts or cocksuckers talking over the action. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:11:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: jasonm4]
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So did the whole security team(USSS and local) really fail that hard, which allowed a unsecured area for the shooter? Case closed?
Or are we thinking there was help within? I'm perplexed and hate to say it, starting to think of the latter. Eta. If Trump don't win, everything is going to burn. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:11:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jasonm4: So did the whole security team(USSS and local) really fail that hard, which allowed a unsecured area for the shooter? Case closed? Or are we thinking there was help within? I'm perplexed and hate to say it, starting to think of the latter. I don't think we'll ever really know. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:12:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StretchMaK: I just keep asking, would that guy have gotten that close to biden with a gun? I say no freaking way he would have. Exactly. I just posted an interview with Erik Prince (Blackwater founder) who says that the Secret Service has a Don't Take The First Shot rule. I wonder the same thing...would the SS let the bad guy take the first shot at Biden before trying to take him out?????? |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:12:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: He was a jedi-ninja on that day . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By X-CaptHook: Originally Posted By thehun06: Just remember ... that dude was able to circumvent a multi-layer security line ... walk up with an AR15 ... climb a roof ... and no one took a shot at him ... And to add, picked the correct spot that CAT team could not spot him, on the exact roof that local police were supposed to be manning, all while people are pointing and yelling, that he’s got a gun, after being identified previously as a suspicious person. He was a jedi-ninja on that day . Seems like a mini Uvalde, Texas school scenario. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:13:22 PM EST
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:13:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jasonm4: So did the whole security team(USSS and local) really fail that hard, which allowed a unsecured area for the shooter? Case closed? Or are we thinking there was help within? I'm perplexed and hate to say it, starting to think of the latter. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:13:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glock27bill: Dunno if this has been posted before. Thirty seven minute interview with Erik Prince (Blackwater founder) by Patrick Bet-David. Prince says that the Secret Service snipers have a Don't Shoot First policy! So much WTF, but Prince stops short of saying what we're all thinking.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxpJnUWHxdsTrump could replace secret service a new company started by Mr. Prince. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:13:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WDEagle: Trying to find a station where I can watch the convention, the actual convention, not some loopy cunts or cocksuckers talking over the action. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WDEagle: Originally Posted By GGF: The man is at the Convention! Trying to find a station where I can watch the convention, the actual convention, not some loopy cunts or cocksuckers talking over the action. It won't be CBS. They're taking every opportunity to run President Trump down. What a bunch of communist shitheels. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:15:48 PM EST
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:16:51 PM EST
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Newly released footage of law enforcement trying to interpret the shooter:
 Keystone Cops Compilation |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:16:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glock27bill: Exactly. I just posted an interview with Erik Prince (Blackwater founder) who says that the Secret Service has a Don't Take The First Shot rule. I wonder the same thing...would the SS let the bad guy take the first shot at Biden before trying to take him out?????? I find this don't shoot first rule kind of hard to believe. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:18:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jasonm4: If Trump don't win, everything is going to burn.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:19:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:19:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Most hunters cannot make this shot. I would confidently say over 90% would miss that head shot. Colorado has an Elk cull program that accepts volunteers. You have to hit an 8" gong 6 times in a row. First 3 shots at 150 yards, then 3 shots at 200 yards. Less than 3% of those who try out pass that test. Over 90% fail by missing on the first shot. When I teach a class, I do a No-Fail drill at the very end for a prize which is usually a book or something. 10” steel gong. Five rounds at 7 yards, retreat to 10 and repeat, retreat to 15, then 20, then 25. 25 rounds total. No time limit, but in the event of a tie, the faster time wins. On average about 10% miss the very first round. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:20:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: It was not an inside job. Stop. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xviperx420: Originally Posted By BRS1912: Originally Posted By 50cal: All the "inside job" are kind of laughable. For a job with the far reaching implications that this would have had and the powers that be pick a goof ball and have him use a red dot instead of a scope with some magnification. Yeah, top tier talent on that job.  Is it though? Inside job can mean many things. How do you explain that horrible SS stuff? Presidents get 100 percent SS attention. Period. To leave that up to chance or babies that couldn't stand the heat...yeah no. Something smells. It was not an inside job. Stop. Secret service tells the cops it is their responsibility to "secure" the roof for this candidate. Cops have probably done lots and lots of these events with nothing more than some trespassers to deal with. Local cops decide it is too hot on the roof so they will "secure" the building from the inside in the AC instead of getting cooked to death on the roof, no surprise. Conclusion-Inside job. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:20:52 PM EST
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:20:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I find this don't shoot first rule kind of hard to believe. The shooter had ~30 minutes from first observation to the first shot. If it's not a rule on paper, it's a rule in practice |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:21:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: People miss shots all of the time. I always find it strange when people are incredulous of someone missing a shot. And people miss shots when they’re not emotionally compromised, with a HR of 170. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:21:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I assume the SS has a mobile command post they bring with them. I don't think they do. Keep in mind the protection for a sitting US president is not the same for a candidate or even former US president. SS secures an inner perimeter then relies on local LE for the rest. The inner perimeter is relatively small. It's not hundreds of yards wide in all directions for a candidate or former POTUS. I think there is a compelling reason after Trump getting shot that SS needs to have significantly more resources compared to what they have now and rely less on local/state LE for protecting people. SWAT teams in the US vary WILDLY in their ability. Most of them are part time positions where they have regular patrol duties but aren't full time SWAT as a job. Some are regional where you get a few guys from each department that train together irregularly. State police SWAT does what? I can't imagine state police guys responding to calls regularly. They may protect some events with the governor speaking but probably have never been on an actual callout with a real life threat. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:21:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: Incels are the greatest threat to our nation! Legalizing Great Value priced prostitution would fix this. This might be a joke, but this would seriously make a huge difference. It is only going to get worse as well, with more kids tied to their video games and the amount of fat blue haired unfuckables. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:21:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Secret service tells the cops it is their responsibility to "secure" the roof for this candidate. Cops have probably done lots and lots of these events with nothing more than some trespassers to deal with. Local cops decide it is too hot on the roof so they will "secure" the building from the inside in the AC instead of getting cooked to death on the roof, no surprise. Conclusion-Inside job. I mean. If it was part of the plan that they were supposed to be on the roof they really should have been on the roof. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:22:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: This might be a joke, but this would seriously make a huge difference. It is only going to get worse as well, with more kids tied to their video games and the amount of fat blue haired unfuckables. And we don't even have real sex robots yet. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:22:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: jasonm4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I don't think we'll ever really know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By jasonm4: So did the whole security team(USSS and local) really fail that hard, which allowed a unsecured area for the shooter? Case closed? Or are we thinking there was help within? I'm perplexed and hate to say it, starting to think of the latter. I don't think we'll ever really know. True. Regardless how someone takes it, whether there was inside help or not, it was a complete fucking failure with Trump's protection. Perp should have been merc'd or stopped before he shot. Wtf local police didn't intervene despite hearing reports and running into him, hell I'd safely be firing my service pistol repeatedly if I kept hearing Trump on the speakers. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:22:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: We have the information we have. And educated guesses. Baseless speculation is irrelevant to this discussion. You've been spending a lot of time in this discussion, I have my own thoughts. They aren't good. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:23:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cchurchi: Fuck Joe Biden, Fuck the CIA, Fuck the FBI, Fuck CNN, and Fuck all demonic democrats everywhere for all time. Amen. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:23:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: This is the same government that runs the rest of our institutions when is the last time they proved to be confident at anything? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: Originally Posted By jasonm4: So did the whole security team(USSS and local) really fail that hard, which allowed a unsecured area for the shooter? Case closed? Or are we thinking there was help within? I'm perplexed and hate to say it, starting to think of the latter. We are literally a country of hawlk tuay girl, or sell your farts in a jar, can't decide what a man or a women is and we are going to act surprised by this? |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:23:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rebel31: I don't think they do. Keep in mind the protection for a sitting US president is not the same for a candidate or even former US president. SS secures an inner perimeter then relies on local LE for the rest. The inner perimeter is relatively small. It's not hundreds of yards wide in all directions for a candidate or former POTUS. I think there is a compelling reason after Trump getting shot that SS needs to have significantly more resources compared to what they have now and rely less on local/state LE for protecting people. SWAT teams in the US vary WILDLY in their ability. Most of them are part time positions where they have regular patrol duties but aren't full time SWAT as a job. Some are regional where you get a few guys from each department that train together irregularly. State police SWAT does what? I can't imagine state police guys responding to calls regularly. They may protect some events with the governor speaking but probably have never been on an actual callout with a real life threat. All good points. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:24:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By riverrockar: You've been spending a lot of time in this discussion, I have my own thoughts. They aren't good. This is an extremely important moment in history. I'm finding it really strange that a lot of people don't appreciate that. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:27:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jasonm4: True. Regardless how someone takes it, whether there was inside help or not, it was a complete fucking failure with Trump's protection. Perp should have been merc'd or stopped before he shot. Wtf local police didn't intervene despite hearing reports and running into him, hell I'd safely be firing my service pistol repeatedly if I kept hearing Trump on the speakers. Agreed. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:27:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: pics of OF chick? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. Posted earlier in the thread shortly after shooter's name was released. However, you honestly don't want to see them. 
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:28:34 PM EST
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That bad mofo looks great at the RNC now. Gladiator President
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:28:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Sadder still, he spent $1400 to talk to some fat disgusting chick on OF. Jeez. |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:29:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: We really don't know what IED means. This is true... depending on complexity, it will give a good indication of things |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 9:30:05 PM EST
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