A single 30 round mag is way more than anyone could hope fire off before getting killed in a situation like that.

The sloped roof?  She was giving an interview the very next day and had no idea what she was talking about, and yet tried to sound smart about it - this is "just say something" management.  When you aren't comfortable with "we don't yet know, and are looking into that," you aren't fit to supervise, at any level.

NOPE.  They will not let him get as far as being sworn in.  He will come off the podium like a political Atilla the Hun, and they know it.

Sure is, LOL! Just happens that I'm building a 2:12 lean-to on the side of one of my buildings. Damn dangerous but I think I'll manage.

She wasn't reviewing or signing off on any of these positions.  That's not her role, nor should it be.  

The problem is that she was speaking to deployed aspects like she was knowledgeable about the details.

"Act as you expect others to act."  She was comfortable spouting lazy BS.  What does that say about her expectations of others?

Hi @CalLutheran this one of your employees?

Cc @SecretService https://t.co/IQkHBGul0W pic.twitter.com/pEHYaX4aRN

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Okay…. Wow…. Uhmmm…. They left the ladder for the shooter to use? He may have used it or not but…

I hate conspiracy theories but how am I suppose to read that story and not come to the conclusion that they wanted Trump dead? Like if Trump were killed, how could I read this exact story and not think it was intentional?

The buck stops with the SS. It is their responsibility to protect Trump and they failed to do so. You can blame local LE as being part of the problem, but it is not their responsibility to protect the President, they are added security measures, especially for dead space.

This could just be dumb luck, but the fact is, there were numerous security failures. If that is the case at this event, then it has been the case for previous events.

The women agents have proven to be incompetent, or at least not as capable as their male counterparts who did jump on top of the presidents and didn’t duck for cover in fear. This is going to be analyzed for months to come, and the reports that will be coming from the government cannot be trusted. They are in full CYOA mode, placing blame on anyone but themselves.

This event exposed a massive shortfall in their ability to protect their subject and their ability to respond to a real threat. The woman ducking for cover, using the person she is supposed to be protecting as cover, in total fear is my evidence of this, not just speculation.

The details will trickle in like always. Stupid people are going to say stupid things. In the end, we know how vulnerable former and current presidents are. We know using local LE leads to half assed additional support and the SS is not as infallible as everyone has been meant to believe. No matter the fine details of the events that led up to the kid pulling the trigger, he was able to gets shots off and hit Trump in the f ing head. That is a complete and total failure.

If reports are true he bought a 5' ladder before - the ladder in the picture is certainly taller than 5' so seems more likely it was the cops.  Also, there were reports that he climbed on some AC units to reach the roof.

Why the fuck are we getting information piecemeal through various sources like CNN? SS head cunt gave a BS statement that again wasn't a fucking news conference. This is day 3. How the fuck is the biggest moment in US history since 9/11 being broken down randomly with facts from dozens of "sources" and not a central location with main players all involved? Can someone else name another event of anything close to this magnitude that didn't have daily or hourly updates directly from those involved? Why are we getting drips of information from various sources and very little from the actual people involved directly? Why are there random comments from officials with various news rags but not a central press conference.

I'm sorry, but this whole thing fucking stinks.

Yep, she's a lying sack of crap.  Interviewer should have called her on it.

More likely the ladder was for the police to use to get onto the roof if they decided to get out of the AC and actually where they were supposed to be.

Know your enemy

Secret Service boss gives absurd reason for not stationing agent on roof where Trump shooter opened fire.





Embattled Secret Service head Kimberly Cheatle has revealed the fateful reason why her agency failed to position an agent on top of the building that a gunman used to carry out an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

Cheatle, who is already facing calls to resign over what some lawmakers are calling a massive security failure, said Secret Service officials planning security for Trump's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania considered the warehouse about 150 yards away from where Trump spoke to be a risky position for stationing an agent.

'That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,' she told ABC News in an interview Tuesday.

'And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside.'

What transpired instead was a security nightmare: Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to scale the building and secure his own position, while law enforcement struggled to locate him even amid pressing warnings from members of the Trump crowd.  But there wasn't sufficient time to act on the tips, she explalined.

'The shooter was actually identified as a potential person of suspicion,' Cheatle said. 'Unfortunately, with the rapid succession of how things unfolded, by the time that individual was eventually located, they were on the rooftop and were able to fire off at the former president.'





Cheatle told ABC News her first reaction to the shooting was 'shock.'

She also said the Secret Service was aware of the security vulnerabilities presented by the building Crooks took a sniper's position on to aim at Trump. However, a decision was made not to place any personnel on the roof.

She also continues to resist calls that she step down over the incident, even while taking responsibility for her agency.

'The buck stops with me,' she said.

'It was unacceptable,' she told ABC. 'And it's something that shouldn't happen again.'








Cheatle is already facing calls to step down amid what some are calling a 'massive security failure'


Video of building


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I'm really glad she said that.  If there was any doubt at all of her incompetency before that, it's gone now.  America will see that, recognize if for the complete bullshit that it is, and correctly deduce that she is trying to hide something.  It may have been the worst possible thing to say if she was trying to divert attention from herself.

I'm sure the headlines will be along momentarily.

Every one of them.

The scary part is that they feel safe enough to openly say things like that.

She wouldn't say that because she didn't know anything about it.

3000 agents, 1500 uniformed officers, plus a couple thousand support staff ... covering everything from Pres/VP security, line of succession security, former president/vp security, fixed location security, event security, movement security, international terrorism, cybercrime, counterfeiting, etc.

Nobody at the head of an organization of that size/breadth is making any decisions about a rooftop in Pennsylvania.

If she steps down, any hope (slim as it may be) for accountability goes away.  "She's gone.  We fixed it.  What more do you want?"

So the SS is not operator enough to set up on a sloped roof but a 20 year old lone wolf assassin is? Is that the line they want to go with?

it was better to think she was a DIE moran than for her to speak and remove all doubt.

If the roof was sloped the SS could have employed a local handyman to build some wooden leveled platforms on the sloped roof for their snipers. The advance team had a full week to get it done.

remember the USSS has a staffing shortage they cant let that good agent go She is upper management.

Just based on some pixels in the TMZ picture that was floating around, he had a Primary Arms micro prism, which could have been 3x or even 5x.

Well, Mandalay Bay comes to mind...

Have there been any posts accounting for all of the shots that were fired? The gunman fires the initial 3 shots, but then it sounds like someone returning fire with a semi auto, then the suppressed sniper shots.

Could LEO have engaged him on the roof first?

None of this makes sense if you were going to punch a one way ticket, wouldnt you buy all top gear? 308 rifle, scope match ammo etc... who cares if your cc is 10k your never going to pay it.

Arf GD is absolutely the best place to confirm that something is, indeed, happening. It becomes noise pretty quick.

That makes sense, but why would she say what she said over 48 hours after the fact?

I would say that can't possibly be the real reason the roof wasn't secure, but with all the other nonsense that's come out of this, who knows anymore.

Maybe he decided 48 hours before he did it. Maybe he wanted to do it, but wasn't sure if he actually had the guts to do it. Maybe he was paranoid and thought large purchases a couple days before would raise some red flags. Maybe he thought he was most accurate with his own gun and didn't want to try something new.

That hill looks steeper than the roof

I don't expect every one to have my same world view, or vote for the same people I vote for, or support the same political party
that I do. But it would be nice to expect them to at least be decent human beings.
The Left, time and time again, prove that they aren't even capable of that. It's pathetic.

My fear is a Trump win could take down this country much quicker than anything the Left is currently doing.  Neither side will accept the results but one side is much more apt to publicly “respond” as a result.




This may in fact be their plan by either assassination or civil war.  It’s a given that “peaceful protests” will be in every major city once Trump is announced the winner.  The Left could declare Martial Law that ends up delaying or preventing the Inauguration from occurring.  

The Left controls the government.  What’s the Right gonna do about it?

So according to Cheatle, putting snipers on the roof was "risky" for their own safety? Even though there were 2 exposed snipers on the higher elevated barn, one of which wasn't even prone peaking over the peak. Asinine. She left the most likely shooter location unguarded and local LEO was definitely made aware he was up there. At that point, they should have removed Trump from the stage before that asshat could have even fired a shot. Not to mention they had identified him as suspicious WAY BEFORE Trump's speech even began. Bongino even said, at that point you delay the event for a bit until you find him.

So many fuckups it hardly seems possible.

I wonder if the father ever sighted in the rifle with that optic, or did it just get slapped on there and he’d get to it later.  And did the shooter/son ever shoot that gun before to his knowledge.

Executive summary done right.

Crooks' father opens the door to several members of the FBI

There's no reason to think he didn't, especially if the optic is a red dot as speculated.

The bullet was, at most, 3-4" off the point of aim, it still hit Trump's ear, and Trump would be dead if he didn't turn his head.

It gets even worse. People were saying there was a guy crawling on the roof BEFORE Trump even came out to speak.

That's been the sticking point now that the swamp apparatus has been exposed . It's essentially occupied territory. The next administration is going to need a remote option. The old nest needs cleaning out .

If she had said that about Biden they would be kicking her door in right about now.

If trump has the bandage covering his ear at the next debate, they will accuse him of having an earbud in there.  

He needs to remove it before the debate.

Brilliant post!

Talk about Beetus ... sheesh.

Women in charge are a great idea.  I have no words.

"We couldn't stop the mass shooting, the shooter was on an impenetrable wet sidewalk, our officers could have slipped and fallen!"