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Originally Posted By clutchsmoke: I'm not a conspiracy guy at all. But at this point I think the deep state tried to take Trump out. And just like everything they do, they botched it. Now Trump is stronger because of it and they're left scrambling. View Quote Although it's not the caliber of service I think we all expect out of the Secret Service, I could almost accept that there are enough new DEI hires and administrative BS that that particular roof could go unsecured during the rally. But that some kid with no internet history and severe TDS just happened to stumble across that particular vulnerability at precisely the right time to take advantage of it is a bit much to swallow. |
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Originally Posted By clutchsmoke: I'm not a conspiracy guy at all. But at this point I think the deep state tried to take Trump out. And just like everything they do, they botched it. Now Trump is stronger because of it and they're left scrambling. View Quote I don't think they are done trying. |
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https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1823786569914077588
🚨🚨🚨Most important news from Secret Service Dir. Rowe's 1 p.m. address this afternoon to every Secret Service employee: The Secret Service Butler rally that ended in an assassination attempt against Trump and the murder of rallygoer Corey Comperatore apparently DID NOT HAVE a UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER with local law enforcement. Therefore, there was no interoperability between USSS and local law enforcement when communications came in. I have been asking this question of the Secret Service for weeks now. Finally, we have our answer. They literally could not talk to each other that day. It was COMPLETELY SILOED - not just partially siloed with the command post serving as a way to make it interoperable and share communications. @SenRonJohnson and his team of staffers were the first to bring up the siloing of communications in his initial report released publicly on 7/21. It appears as if unified command centers at rallies and events --(made up of Secret Service supervisors and their local law enforcement counterparts) before Butler were limited to National Special Security Events ONLY. Those events are major federal govt or public events considered to be nationally significant and designated by the president and/or the Dept. of Homeland Security Secretary -- in this case Mayorkas. They, therefore, did not include rallies and campaign events for Trump. So obviously, the USSS and DHS, including Biden and Mayorkas, were using outmoded protocols for Trump events attracting tens of thousands of people. This is beyond outrageous. Rowe in his 1 p.m. address: "We're going to put somebody in that command post, or we're going to establish our security room in partnership with that unified command post. It's the same model we use in National Special Security Events, so why would we use it on our daily operations?" On interoperability communications with local law enforcement Rowe said this: "It's more than just trying to find the frequency of the local PD that we're working with and diving into our radio network," he said, noting that it will require investments. He said he's already stood up a task force that will be co-chaired by a Secret Service supervisor in the protective division in partnership with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. "We're going to bring together FEMA, we're going to bring together other operational elements of the department. We're going to bring in state and locals. We're going to get in a room, a small room and set them up to monitor communications with our counterpart."
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Originally Posted By brass: He doesn't get a middle name since he didn't succeed? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By JT_26: Originally Posted By savage_winchester: It's like Thomas Crooks never existed. Who? He doesn't get a middle name since he didn't succeed? Speaker To Animals agrees with this statement. |
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Originally Posted By RSG:
View Quote Ain't that some shit . |
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Sounds like Trumps SS team has been a major cluster**** for a while, I guess it is to be expected, no different that anything else ran by democrats.
Caught Sleeping on the Job? Trump's Secret Service Detail Is an Absolute Disaster |
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Originally Posted By RSG: https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1823786569914077588 🚨🚨🚨Most important news from Secret Service Dir. Rowe's 1 p.m. address this afternoon to every Secret Service employee: The Secret Service Butler rally that ended in an assassination attempt against Trump and the murder of rallygoer Corey Comperatore apparently DID NOT HAVE a UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER with local law enforcement. Therefore, there was no interoperability between USSS and local law enforcement when communications came in. I have been asking this question of the Secret Service for weeks now. Finally, we have our answer. They literally could not talk to each other that day. It was COMPLETELY SILOED - not just partially siloed with the command post serving as a way to make it interoperable and share communications. @SenRonJohnson and his team of staffers were the first to bring up the siloing of communications in his initial report released publicly on 7/21. It appears as if unified command centers at rallies and events --(made up of Secret Service supervisors and their local law enforcement counterparts) before Butler were limited to National Special Security Events ONLY. Those events are major federal govt or public events considered to be nationally significant and designated by the president and/or the Dept. of Homeland Security Secretary -- in this case Mayorkas. They, therefore, did not include rallies and campaign events for Trump. So obviously, the USSS and DHS, including Biden and Mayorkas, were using outmoded protocols for Trump events attracting tens of thousands of people. This is beyond outrageous. Rowe in his 1 p.m. address: "We're going to put somebody in that command post, or we're going to establish our security room in partnership with that unified command post. It's the same model we use in National Special Security Events, so why would we use it on our daily operations?" On interoperability communications with local law enforcement Rowe said this: "It's more than just trying to find the frequency of the local PD that we're working with and diving into our radio network," he said, noting that it will require investments. He said he's already stood up a task force that will be co-chaired by a Secret Service supervisor in the protective division in partnership with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. "We're going to bring together FEMA, we're going to bring together other operational elements of the department. We're going to bring in state and locals. We're going to get in a room, a small room and set them up to monitor communications with our counterpart."
View Quote While the topics of having comms and unified command post are important (but it is so basic, that it's hard to believe it is even a topic), it is somewhat of a red herring. Set interoperability issues aside for a for a minute. Set aside the issue of which agency had responsibility of that roof, or who was supposed to be on post on the second floor in the AGR building. Strip all of that away for a second... - The northern CST got behind their rifles 40 seconds before first shot - it's on video. - The southern CST switched sides on the roof 30 seconds before - it's on video. - How did they know to do that? Presumably, the two CSTs were SS or DHS and at least had direct comms with USSS command post - it's on video that they had radios on their persons. Why didn't USSS get Trump off the X? For me, this is what it boils down to. We have external evidence (the videos) that they knew of something - enough to point their rifles in that direction - before shots were fired. Yes, some allege that USSS knew of the "suspicious" person/threat 3 minutes or even more before the shots, but without subpoenas or full cooperation, I'm not sure we'll ever get to that truth. What we do have is external evidence, the videos. USSS could have moved Trump, but didn't. Inside job. If Congress critters knew how to formulate a line of questioning, they could back the witness into a tough position with this. |
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Originally Posted By turborocket: While the topics of having comms and unified command post are important (but it is so basic, that it's hard to believe it is even a topic), it is somewhat of a red herring. Set interoperability issues aside for a for a minute. Set aside the issue of which agency had responsibility of that roof, or who was supposed to be on post on the second floor in the AGR building. Strip all of that away for a second... - The northern CST got behind their rifles 40 seconds before first shot - it's on video. - The southern CST switched sides on the roof 30 seconds before - it's on video. - How did they know to do that? Presumably, the two CSTs were SS or DHS and at least had direct comms with USSS command post - it's on video that they had radios on their persons. Why didn't USSS get Trump off the X? For me, this is what it boils down to. We have external evidence (the videos) that they knew of something - enough to point their rifles in that direction - before shots were fired. Yes, some allege that USSS knew of the "suspicious" person/threat 3 minutes or even more before the shots, but without subpoenas or full cooperation, I'm not sure we'll ever get to that truth. What we do have is external evidence, the videos. USSS could have moved Trump, but didn't. Inside job. If Congress critters knew how to formulate a line of questioning, they could back the witness into a tough position with this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By turborocket: Originally Posted By RSG: https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1823786569914077588 🚨🚨🚨Most important news from Secret Service Dir. Rowe's 1 p.m. address this afternoon to every Secret Service employee: The Secret Service Butler rally that ended in an assassination attempt against Trump and the murder of rallygoer Corey Comperatore apparently DID NOT HAVE a UNIFIED COMMAND CENTER with local law enforcement. Therefore, there was no interoperability between USSS and local law enforcement when communications came in. I have been asking this question of the Secret Service for weeks now. Finally, we have our answer. They literally could not talk to each other that day. It was COMPLETELY SILOED - not just partially siloed with the command post serving as a way to make it interoperable and share communications. @SenRonJohnson and his team of staffers were the first to bring up the siloing of communications in his initial report released publicly on 7/21. It appears as if unified command centers at rallies and events --(made up of Secret Service supervisors and their local law enforcement counterparts) before Butler were limited to National Special Security Events ONLY. Those events are major federal govt or public events considered to be nationally significant and designated by the president and/or the Dept. of Homeland Security Secretary -- in this case Mayorkas. They, therefore, did not include rallies and campaign events for Trump. So obviously, the USSS and DHS, including Biden and Mayorkas, were using outmoded protocols for Trump events attracting tens of thousands of people. This is beyond outrageous. Rowe in his 1 p.m. address: "We're going to put somebody in that command post, or we're going to establish our security room in partnership with that unified command post. It's the same model we use in National Special Security Events, so why would we use it on our daily operations?" On interoperability communications with local law enforcement Rowe said this: "It's more than just trying to find the frequency of the local PD that we're working with and diving into our radio network," he said, noting that it will require investments. He said he's already stood up a task force that will be co-chaired by a Secret Service supervisor in the protective division in partnership with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. "We're going to bring together FEMA, we're going to bring together other operational elements of the department. We're going to bring in state and locals. We're going to get in a room, a small room and set them up to monitor communications with our counterpart."
While the topics of having comms and unified command post are important (but it is so basic, that it's hard to believe it is even a topic), it is somewhat of a red herring. Set interoperability issues aside for a for a minute. Set aside the issue of which agency had responsibility of that roof, or who was supposed to be on post on the second floor in the AGR building. Strip all of that away for a second... - The northern CST got behind their rifles 40 seconds before first shot - it's on video. - The southern CST switched sides on the roof 30 seconds before - it's on video. - How did they know to do that? Presumably, the two CSTs were SS or DHS and at least had direct comms with USSS command post - it's on video that they had radios on their persons. Why didn't USSS get Trump off the X? For me, this is what it boils down to. We have external evidence (the videos) that they knew of something - enough to point their rifles in that direction - before shots were fired. Yes, some allege that USSS knew of the "suspicious" person/threat 3 minutes or even more before the shots, but without subpoenas or full cooperation, I'm not sure we'll ever get to that truth. What we do have is external evidence, the videos. USSS could have moved Trump, but didn't. Inside job. If Congress critters knew how to formulate a line of questioning, they could back the witness into a tough position with this. You can't just strip that away. Whoever drew the map of the SS' security zone knows what's going on. Omitting that building took more than incompetence. |
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Originally Posted By turborocket: While the topics of having comms and unified command post are important (but it is so basic, that it's hard to believe it is even a topic), it is somewhat of a red herring. Set interoperability issues aside for a for a minute. Set aside the issue of which agency had responsibility of that roof, or who was supposed to be on post on the second floor in the AGR building. Strip all of that away for a second... - The northern CST got behind their rifles 40 seconds before first shot - it's on video. - The southern CST switched sides on the roof 30 seconds before - it's on video. - How did they know to do that? Presumably, the two CSTs were SS or DHS and at least had direct comms with USSS command post - it's on video that they had radios on their persons. Why didn't USSS get Trump off the X? For me, this is what it boils down to. We have external evidence (the videos) that they knew of something - enough to point their rifles in that direction - before shots were fired. Yes, some allege that USSS knew of the "suspicious" person/threat 3 minutes or even more before the shots, but without subpoenas or full cooperation, I'm not sure we'll ever get to that truth. What we do have is external evidence, the videos. USSS could have moved Trump, but didn't. Inside job. If Congress critters knew how to formulate a line of questioning, they could back the witness into a tough position with this. View Quote Yeah, theres so much that simple incompetence cant explain it. Plus also to add to that, even though the Southern Team repositioned prior to the shooting, it still took what like 16 seconds after Crooks started shooting before the CS took the kill shot. That seems like a long time to me for the position they were in. And in the Musk/Trump X Space, Trump had again repeated what I believe was disinfo told to him. That it was a over 400 yard shot, and the response was fast like 5 seconds. When reality they werent much further away than Trump was from the shooter. |
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Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Ain't that some shit . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." |
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Originally Posted By nolan7120: I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
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Originally Posted By brass: History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. |
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Originally Posted By 01ZULU: Something still doesn’t sit right by comparing the photos of the alive and dead shooter Something with the jaw structure and pushed in face/nose doesn’t jive Almost has the sunken in lips/face appearance like when folks take out their dentures. (ETA not that the fucker had dentures. Only way I can describe it) And much more rounded jaw structures like Hapsberg jaw or something Bulb of chin doesn’t look right either Dead shooter in right. And supposedly Maxwell Yearick in left https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/87DB1D2D-6B67-4A7C-BC0C-6A4E054C285F-3294864.png Pic feds and or local Leo we’re texting to each other https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/21D6E978-3F41-4E05-B740-E59BE37994EE-3294865.jpg Screen shot of video of crooks from interweb https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/B2DE438E-37F8-427D-BF32-3FCB8FFFE972-3294866.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/241CE2D6-6D2E-41C1-A921-E2B03DE68EF9-3294867.jpg View Quote FFS The last 2 are not him. |
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Originally Posted By LittleBigHorn: FFS The last 2 are not him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LittleBigHorn: Originally Posted By 01ZULU: Something still doesn’t sit right by comparing the photos of the alive and dead shooter Something with the jaw structure and pushed in face/nose doesn’t jive Almost has the sunken in lips/face appearance like when folks take out their dentures. (ETA not that the fucker had dentures. Only way I can describe it) And much more rounded jaw structures like Hapsberg jaw or something Bulb of chin doesn’t look right either Dead shooter in right. And supposedly Maxwell Yearick in left https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/87DB1D2D-6B67-4A7C-BC0C-6A4E054C285F-3294864.png Pic feds and or local Leo we’re texting to each other https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/21D6E978-3F41-4E05-B740-E59BE37994EE-3294865.jpg Screen shot of video of crooks from interweb https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/B2DE438E-37F8-427D-BF32-3FCB8FFFE972-3294866.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/241CE2D6-6D2E-41C1-A921-E2B03DE68EF9-3294867.jpg FFS The last 2 are not him. you missed |
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Originally Posted By 01ZULU: you missed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/Screen_Shot_2024-08-15_at_00_25_56-3294879.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 01ZULU: Originally Posted By LittleBigHorn: Originally Posted By 01ZULU: Something still doesn’t sit right by comparing the photos of the alive and dead shooter Something with the jaw structure and pushed in face/nose doesn’t jive Almost has the sunken in lips/face appearance like when folks take out their dentures. (ETA not that the fucker had dentures. Only way I can describe it) And much more rounded jaw structures like Hapsberg jaw or something Bulb of chin doesn’t look right either Dead shooter in right. And supposedly Maxwell Yearick in left https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/87DB1D2D-6B67-4A7C-BC0C-6A4E054C285F-3294864.png Pic feds and or local Leo we’re texting to each other https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/21D6E978-3F41-4E05-B740-E59BE37994EE-3294865.jpg Screen shot of video of crooks from interweb https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/B2DE438E-37F8-427D-BF32-3FCB8FFFE972-3294866.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/241CE2D6-6D2E-41C1-A921-E2B03DE68EF9-3294867.jpg FFS The last 2 are not him. you missed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/Screen_Shot_2024-08-15_at_00_25_56-3294879.png Missed what? The last 2 in the prior post are from a video of some dude who made an online post after the shooting. It wasn’t the shooter. Do better. |
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Originally Posted By brass: History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png We've been being fed propaganda for decades. In school, I don't ever remember seeing any pictures of the soviet union that weren't drab and gloomy looking. Surely the sun shines over there at some point. |
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I'm not lazy, I just really enjoy doing nothing.
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Originally Posted By 01ZULU: Something still doesn’t sit right by comparing the photos of the alive and dead shooter Something with the jaw structure and pushed in face/nose doesn’t jive Almost has the sunken in lips/face appearance like when folks take out their dentures. (ETA not that the fucker had dentures. Only way I can describe it) And much more rounded jaw structures like Hapsberg jaw or something Bulb of chin doesn’t look right either Dead shooter in right. And supposedly Maxwell Yearick in left https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/87DB1D2D-6B67-4A7C-BC0C-6A4E054C285F-3294864.png Pic feds and or local Leo we’re texting to each other https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/21D6E978-3F41-4E05-B740-E59BE37994EE-3294865.jpg Screen shot of video of crooks from interweb https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/B2DE438E-37F8-427D-BF32-3FCB8FFFE972-3294866.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/241CE2D6-6D2E-41C1-A921-E2B03DE68EF9-3294867.jpg View Quote Getting capped in the dome can have a way of distorting some facial features. |
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Originally Posted By nolan7120: It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. 5-6 years ago a criminal drug addict OD'd while resisting arrest and the whole world reacts. The government tried to assassinate a former and future US president on live TV. 2 weeks later they act like it didnt happen and its completely forgotten and GF still gets more attention. |
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Originally Posted By 01ZULU: you missed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/Screen_Shot_2024-08-15_at_00_25_56-3294879.png View Quote |
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Originally Posted By nolan7120: It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. Biden being put out to pasture, the assassination attempt, and media-generated rebirth of KH all happened within a suspiciously short period of time. Had the assassination attempt succeeded, we'd probably be up to our necks in civil war with the empty vessel Harris being installed as President without a single vote, ready for programming. They want the swords to come out. National chaos gives them the opportunity to do literally anything they want. |
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Wasn’t the “demon core” intended for bomb # 3 ?( Yokuska,I think?).
Originally Posted By JPN: The Smithsonian has items in the collection that are considered to not be suitable for public display. They are carefully preserved, and are shown to certain people when requested, but public display or even publicly acknowledging that they exist is not likely to happen, due to how it would be politicized. In the one case that I know some details of, I can't say I disagree with the decision, as long as they are preserved and not completely forgotten about. In the mid-1990s, I had a disagreement with a History professor. He was teaching his students that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a bluff, and if Japan had called the bluff, all of those lives would have been lost for nothing, because the US would not have another atomic bomb available for some time. He claimed that there were no plans for anything resembling mass production - the mines had delivered the amount of ore that had ordered for the White Sands test, the Hiroshima bomb, and the Nagasaki bomb, and then the mines were closed, with the bomb casing production following the same process of three prototypes being ordered, delivered, and no additional orders being placed. Setting aside the argument of how so many less expensive wartime development programs were rushed into production before all of the bugs had been worked out of the prototypes, I simply pointed out that his claim was false due to there having been more bomb casings available and offered to show him pictures of the one in the National Air and Space Museum collection. He asked if it had the core material installed (an atomic bomb, built before the safety interlock system was designed, sitting just outside DC in a warehouse, with the radioactive core installed and waiting to be armed?). I replied that the cores were installed shortly before the bombs were loaded on the plane for the mission, to prevent any chance of a nuclear detonation during shipping, so he latched onto the issue of the mines - I had no photographic proof that cores existed, so his claim of there being no production of cores beyond the three prototypes was (in his mind) one step away from a proven fact. He wasn't trying to learn from history, choosing instead to twist it to support his political arguments. If you know where to look, it's not hard to find examples of history being rewritten for political purposes. There's the old saying that the victors write the History textbooks, but in reality there are people who will rewrite history to suit their own agenda against the victors. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By DennyR: Wasn’t the “demon core” intended for bomb # 3 ?( Yokuska,I think?). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DennyR: Wasn’t the “demon core” intended for bomb # 3 ?( Yokuska,I think?). Originally Posted By JPN: The Smithsonian has items in the collection that are considered to not be suitable for public display. They are carefully preserved, and are shown to certain people when requested, but public display or even publicly acknowledging that they exist is not likely to happen, due to how it would be politicized. In the one case that I know some details of, I can't say I disagree with the decision, as long as they are preserved and not completely forgotten about. In the mid-1990s, I had a disagreement with a History professor. He was teaching his students that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a bluff, and if Japan had called the bluff, all of those lives would have been lost for nothing, because the US would not have another atomic bomb available for some time. He claimed that there were no plans for anything resembling mass production - the mines had delivered the amount of ore that had ordered for the White Sands test, the Hiroshima bomb, and the Nagasaki bomb, and then the mines were closed, with the bomb casing production following the same process of three prototypes being ordered, delivered, and no additional orders being placed. Setting aside the argument of how so many less expensive wartime development programs were rushed into production before all of the bugs had been worked out of the prototypes, I simply pointed out that his claim was false due to there having been more bomb casings available and offered to show him pictures of the one in the National Air and Space Museum collection. He asked if it had the core material installed (an atomic bomb, built before the safety interlock system was designed, sitting just outside DC in a warehouse, with the radioactive core installed and waiting to be armed?). I replied that the cores were installed shortly before the bombs were loaded on the plane for the mission, to prevent any chance of a nuclear detonation during shipping, so he latched onto the issue of the mines - I had no photographic proof that cores existed, so his claim of there being no production of cores beyond the three prototypes was (in his mind) one step away from a proven fact. He wasn't trying to learn from history, choosing instead to twist it to support his political arguments. If you know where to look, it's not hard to find examples of history being rewritten for political purposes. There's the old saying that the victors write the History textbooks, but in reality there are people who will rewrite history to suit their own agenda against the victors. There was a list of approved targets, and the bomber crews were given a primary and a secondary target, in case conditions were below limits when they got over the primary target (Hiroshima was the primary target for the Enola Gay/Little Boy mission, but Nagasaki was the secondary target for Bockscar/Fat Man after its primary target was too obscured for the bombardier to identify the aiming point), so I have my doubts about any claim that a particular core was designated to a particular city. There was another Fat Man core in the process of being shipped to the Pacific when Japan surrendered, and I have seen a claim that it was the "demon core", but I haven't looked into that far enough to say one way or another (there's enough attempts at rewriting what was going on with the bombs, and the distorted claim that Japan was already planning to surrender before Hiroshima was bombed, that it's easy to have doubts). |
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Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY. |
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Originally Posted By DarkStar:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVB3vaxaoAAIsBe?format=jpg&name=large
View Quote Is that the assassin, or Bigfoot? |
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Earthsheltered house - a reinforced bunker that even the treehuggers consider to be socially acceptable.
Earthbag house - like an earthsheltered house, but cheaper and easier to DIY. |
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Women do not belong on the Secret Service.
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: brass. Thats also where the reference to the smoking man comes from. He was a shadowy government figure that would show up from time to time. All they knew was he was from the government and smoked. Hence, the smoking man. This was descibed to the ATF agent or whoever showed up and asked for the pics of crooks to be fwd to his phone. Same type of dude as on the X-files. View Quote One of the best episodes was the back story of the Cigarette Smoking Man. |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Originally Posted By DarkStar: Women do not belong on the Secret Service.
Vid ^^ View Quote What was she doing with a baby at work? |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Originally Posted By Oldgold: What was she doing with a baby at work? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By DarkStar: Women do not belong on the Secret Service.
Vid ^^ What was she doing with a baby at work? Good question! She should be on family leave instead of being accommodated to chest feed while in such an important position. The whole SS is suspect at this point, stinking clown show. |
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Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. In the end, the one who wins is the one who thinks he can! - SCI, NRA
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Originally Posted By DennyR: Wasn’t the “demon core” intended for bomb # 3 ?( Yokuska,I think?). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DennyR: Wasn’t the “demon core” intended for bomb # 3 ?( Yokuska,I think?). Originally Posted By JPN: The Smithsonian has items in the collection that are considered to not be suitable for public display. They are carefully preserved, and are shown to certain people when requested, but public display or even publicly acknowledging that they exist is not likely to happen, due to how it would be politicized. In the one case that I know some details of, I can't say I disagree with the decision, as long as they are preserved and not completely forgotten about. In the mid-1990s, I had a disagreement with a History professor. He was teaching his students that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a bluff, and if Japan had called the bluff, all of those lives would have been lost for nothing, because the US would not have another atomic bomb available for some time. He claimed that there were no plans for anything resembling mass production - the mines had delivered the amount of ore that had ordered for the White Sands test, the Hiroshima bomb, and the Nagasaki bomb, and then the mines were closed, with the bomb casing production following the same process of three prototypes being ordered, delivered, and no additional orders being placed. Setting aside the argument of how so many less expensive wartime development programs were rushed into production before all of the bugs had been worked out of the prototypes, I simply pointed out that his claim was false due to there having been more bomb casings available and offered to show him pictures of the one in the National Air and Space Museum collection. He asked if it had the core material installed (an atomic bomb, built before the safety interlock system was designed, sitting just outside DC in a warehouse, with the radioactive core installed and waiting to be armed?). I replied that the cores were installed shortly before the bombs were loaded on the plane for the mission, to prevent any chance of a nuclear detonation during shipping, so he latched onto the issue of the mines - I had no photographic proof that cores existed, so his claim of there being no production of cores beyond the three prototypes was (in his mind) one step away from a proven fact. He wasn't trying to learn from history, choosing instead to twist it to support his political arguments. If you know where to look, it's not hard to find examples of history being rewritten for political purposes. There's the old saying that the victors write the History textbooks, but in reality there are people who will rewrite history to suit their own agenda against the victors. The third core (HS-5, HS-6 and R-2) was ready to be shipped on Aug 15th and would have been ready for delivery on the 19th, Hemisphere 7 and Ring 3 had been produced by the time the end of month report was written, with HS-8 due to be complete in the first week of September. So it was 1 ready to go another 2 weeks later, with production getting a little bit better during the rest of the year. The first target likely would have been Kokura, the secondary target for Little Boy and primary target for Fat Man. Other targets were Yokohama, Niigata and Kyoto. Debate had already started to save the bombs for tactical use during the invasion, they were planning on 7 bombs when the invasion started on November 1. Instead of being shipped, HS-5 and 6 were used in a criticality experiment on Aug 21, leading to it being named the Demon Core. |
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Originally Posted By nolan7120: It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By nolan7120: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By RSG:
Ain't that some shit . I just asked my Google smart clock about the Trump assassination attempt in various verbal deliveries. All but one response was "Sorry, I don't understand." Go fuck yourself, Google. Just a few examples. Hey Google, was President Trump shot in the ear? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot? "I'm sorry, I don't understand." Hey Google, was President Trump shot during the assassination attempt? "My apologies, I don't understand." And then I asked this: Hey Google, was JFK shot? "November 22nd, 1963. Parkland Health. Dallas, TX." History will be written totally ignoring it. In 20 years, Trump will have never been shot at. https://i.imgur.com/TBfmIZr.png It's so fucked up when you actually think about. A former president was shot in the ear exactly one month ago and it's already been memory-holed. That's insane. The ensuing reaction is shockingly... nothing. These are crazy times we're living in. Some folks remember, including my 10yo grandson. Each school year he gets to pick his backpack. This years selection should go over well at the private school he attends. |
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10/22/14 I stand with Canada
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Originally Posted By DarkStar: Women do not belong on the Secret Service.
Vid ^^ View Quote Plot twist - It was really one of those dudes who pretend to be women. Adopted a kid and now are trying to have the baby suck on their nipple. |
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Originally Posted By DarkStar: Women do not belong on the Secret Service.
Vid ^^ View Quote Do we know if someone replaced her when she went to pump? This could be some bullshit bait to get people worked up over nothing. |
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Former FBI agent: Secret Service is on par with paintballers
Former FBI agent: Secret Service is on par with paintballers | Newsline |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Former FBI agent: Secret Service is on par with paintballers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnI6bHP-mfE View Quote That one secret service paintballer landed a pretty decent headshot on the wannabe assassin. Basically 360-no-scope-headshotted his retarded little ass, then went over and teabagged him. |
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Originally Posted By Oldgold: One of the best episodes was the back story of the Cigarette Smoking Man. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: brass. Thats also where the reference to the smoking man comes from. He was a shadowy government figure that would show up from time to time. All they knew was he was from the government and smoked. Hence, the smoking man. This was descibed to the ATF agent or whoever showed up and asked for the pics of crooks to be fwd to his phone. Same type of dude as on the X-files. One of the best episodes was the back story of the Cigarette Smoking Man. Its been a while since I watched them and cant remember if I finished the series or not. I kinda remember the big tobacco one. It wasnt that one was it? |
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This post suggests the shooter was walking around with the rifle in plain sight.
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"Fiat justitia ruat caelum"
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Originally Posted By realwar: Former FBI agent: Secret Service is on par with paintballers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnI6bHP-mfE View Quote Paintballers would have covered any roof within paintball range… |
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China delenda est
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Originally Posted By D_Man: That's not Crooks, he was a troll who capitalized on kind of looking like him and made a video after the shooting claiming to be him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By 01ZULU: you missed https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519336/Screen_Shot_2024-08-15_at_00_25_56-3294879.png Almost full circle... we are back to ~12hours after the shooting. That is a twitter troll with the name "jewgazing". I didn't think I would need to repost this a month later... from page#106 Originally Posted By LordEC911: For the shooter ID, the current FBI verified ID is Thomas Matthew Crooks who is 20yo and from/lived in Bethel Park. The early misinformation/fakes from sluething/trolls was: A Chinese national. A large/fat +30yo Antifa member named Mark Violets with a picture of an Italian journalist. A +30yo Pittsburgh native, Maxwell Yearick, was arrested multiple times the last decade with some including protests/riots. A fake instagram page using an older account and recently changed bio information to the ID shooters information and includes a picture of an individual wearing a hat with possible Cyrillic characters. A far left/free Palestine twitter troll "jewgazing", who seems to have "leaked/supplied" his own pictures with the shooter's name to then get attention and created a video saying he hates republicans and trump and he isn't the shooter. |
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Originally Posted By turborocket: This post suggests the shooter was walking around with the rifle in plain sight.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13078/Shooter_with_rifle_in_plain_sight_PNG-3295190.JPG View Quote The video was released weeks ago of him walking around like that. |
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Originally Posted By turborocket: This post suggests the shooter was walking around with the rifle in plain sight.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13078/Shooter_with_rifle_in_plain_sight_PNG-3295190.JPG View Quote Go to the link on X and scroll down to a Christopher Todd Nolan. He has a video that picture is taken from. Pretty good video accumulation. It shows several videos while Trump is speaking so you can see Crooks in real time. That is except the Secret Service. |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Its been a while since I watched them and cant remember if I finished the series or not. I kinda remember the big tobacco one. It wasnt that one was it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: brass. Thats also where the reference to the smoking man comes from. He was a shadowy government figure that would show up from time to time. All they knew was he was from the government and smoked. Hence, the smoking man. This was descibed to the ATF agent or whoever showed up and asked for the pics of crooks to be fwd to his phone. Same type of dude as on the X-files. One of the best episodes was the back story of the Cigarette Smoking Man. Its been a while since I watched them and cant remember if I finished the series or not. I kinda remember the big tobacco one. It wasnt that one was it? |
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Cops Dashcam: How Trump Shooter Got On Roof NEW Angle |
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https://clayhiggins.house.gov/2024/08/15/higgins-releases-preliminary-investigative-report/
Chris Martenson, PhD @chrismartenson 🚨This incredible report by @RepClayHiggins is a MUST READ!!🚨 A few highlights: ➡️ Body was cremated before a second, ind. examination could be conducted ➡️The FBI released all the 1st responders that evening ➡️The FBI cleaned up biological materials (washed the site down on day 2) ➡️The FBI released the entire crime scene on day 3 "Disturbing" doesn't come close to describing this. It's now "malfeasance" until proven otherwise. |
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