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Dr. Villarreol is a theoretical physicist who found discrepancies in old observatory photos, showing "transients" in pre-satellite space. Transients are essentially anything in space that don't consistently show up when that particular area is viewed. Her team found thousands of occurrences where "stars" vanish. The presence of some of these "stars" just so happened to coincide with famous UFO flaps. Studying photos from before the first satellite launch was obviously important because the sky is full of transients now. They were able to confirm the transients weren't defects in the camera or telescope. Her research paper has now survived peer review and it is accepted that the vanishing points of light are anomalous, so that leaves 3 possibilities: UAP, some natural phenomenon that flashes in space, or we had satellites orbiting before they were publicly known (incredibly unlikely considering what's required). Her findings make me even more curious about the flashes of light I observed with NOD's that didn't behave like random junk reflecting the sun. Something up there is blinking, and there's a lot of them. ![]() Exclusive: Data showing possible nonhuman intelligence passes peer review | Reality Check |
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier: I am sure Avi Loeb will be ecstatic He's simply being open minded and his whole point has been "SETI has been searching for extraterrestrial life for decades and is a valid scientific pursuit but it's considered outrageous to look at an anomalous object in space and suggest it could be artificial." |
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Here's a great breakdown of the paper: Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Dr. Villarreol is a theoretical physicist who found discrepancies in old observatory photos, showing "transients" in pre-satellite space. Transients are essentially anything in space that don't consistently show up when that particular area is viewed. Her team found thousands of occurrences where "stars" vanish. The presence of some of these "stars" just so happened to coincide with famous UFO flaps. Studying photos from before the first satellite launch was obviously important because the sky is full of transients now. They were able to confirm the transients weren't defects in the camera or telescope. Her research paper has now survived peer review and it is accepted that the vanishing points of light are anomalous, so that leaves 3 possibilities: UAP, some natural phenomenon that flashes in space, or we had satellites orbiting before they were publicly known (incredibly unlikely considering what's required). Her findings make me even more curious about the flashes of light I observed with NOD's that didn't behave like random junk reflecting the sun. Something up there is blinking, and there's a lot of them. Blinking stuff in space can be derelict and tumbling. |
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Blinking stuff in space can be derelict and tumbling. Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Dr. Villarreol is a theoretical physicist who found discrepancies in old observatory photos, showing "transients" in pre-satellite space. Transients are essentially anything in space that don't consistently show up when that particular area is viewed. Her team found thousands of occurrences where "stars" vanish. The presence of some of these "stars" just so happened to coincide with famous UFO flaps. Studying photos from before the first satellite launch was obviously important because the sky is full of transients now. They were able to confirm the transients weren't defects in the camera or telescope. Her research paper has now survived peer review and it is accepted that the vanishing points of light are anomalous, so that leaves 3 possibilities: UAP, some natural phenomenon that flashes in space, or we had satellites orbiting before they were publicly known (incredibly unlikely considering what's required). Her findings make me even more curious about the flashes of light I observed with NOD's that didn't behave like random junk reflecting the sun. Something up there is blinking, and there's a lot of them. Blinking stuff in space can be derelict and tumbling. The research paper looked at photos from before there was anything manmade in space. The blinkers I saw are geosynchronous, flash at a set interval, and start/stop in a gap of time (usually 10-15 minutes). Reflective space junk would flash non-stop as long as the sun was on them. I've watched thousands of satellites and other random shit with NODs so I'm as good as anybody at determining normal from anomalous. There are a lot of things that are easy to miss unless you pick a section of sky and stare at it for an hour to catch movement. |
| I spent some time in a lawn chair with one side of a pair of bino's in the left eye and my pvs-14 in the other. If I could see it with the night vision and not see it with the bino's, I knew I had something interesting. There was SO MUCH weirdness up there that after a few months I got tired of it. Two weeks before the Reno air races they all went away, and two weeks after, they came back. Why? The largest concentration of pilots, (trained observers) in one spot. There is a LOT of stuff up there, and not all of it is satellites and space junk. |
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Originally Posted By freewilly: I spent some time in a lawn chair with one side of a pair of bino's in the left eye and my pvs-14 in the other. If I could see it with the night vision and not see it with the bino's, I knew I had something interesting. There was SO MUCH weirdness up there that after a few months I got tired of it. Two weeks before the Reno air races they all went away, and two weeks after, they came back. Why? The largest concentration of pilots, (trained observers) in one spot. There is a LOT of stuff up there, and not all of it is satellites and space junk. What a cool way to watch stuff. Congrats on being able! |
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Originally Posted By macman37: About half through it - what a great way to re-evaluate old data, and she approached it in a way that science can’t scoff at. Like how Garry Nolan does. Speaking of Garry Nolan. Here’s a video with him and Beatriz. A deeper dive into the topic. ![]() Dr. Beatriz Villarroel with Dr. Garry Nolan: UAP Detected in Orbit Before Satellites |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Speaking of Garry Nolan. Here's a video with him and Beatriz. A deeper dive into the topic. Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By macman37: About half through it - what a great way to re-evaluate old data, and she approached it in a way that science can't scoff at. Like how Garry Nolan does. Speaking of Garry Nolan. Here's a video with him and Beatriz. A deeper dive into the topic. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The way Garry asks "what's your dream scenario for further research into this?" made me chuckle. He's going to get her hooked up with more funding than she could have ever hoped for. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By macman37: About half through it - what a great way to re-evaluate old data, and she approached it in a way that science can't scoff at. Like how Garry Nolan does. Speaking of Garry Nolan. Here's a video with him and Beatriz. A deeper dive into the topic. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. @32 minutes - Correlations stop after 1956 when did the CIA start? |
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The way Garry asks "what's your dream scenario for further research into this?" made me chuckle. He's going to get her hooked up with more funding than she could have ever hoped for. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By macman37: About half through it - what a great way to re-evaluate old data, and she approached it in a way that science can't scoff at. Like how Garry Nolan does. Speaking of Garry Nolan. Here's a video with him and Beatriz. A deeper dive into the topic. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. Yeah, I think she'll be set up nice, especially finding something that has been laying around for nearly a century and discovering something new in them, that's the kind of person you want to research instead of somebody that graduates college then looks for an assistant research position and sits around until grant runs out and repeats without really doing anything. |
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The way Garry asks "what's your dream scenario for further research into this?" made me chuckle. He's going to get her hooked up with more funding than she could have ever hoped for. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. As dense as I can be most times about taking a hint I caught this one. I hope this leads to more fascinating discoveries. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: As dense as I can be most times about taking a hint I caught this one. I hope this leads to more fascinating discoveries. Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By Cypher214: The way Garry asks "what's your dream scenario for further research into this?" made me chuckle. He's going to get her hooked up with more funding than she could have ever hoped for. He's the guy that when he asks "what do you need?", you just won the lottery. As dense as I can be most times about taking a hint I caught this one. I hope this leads to more fascinating discoveries. |
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Only issue is I'm sure J Allen Heinic or however you spell the lying bastards name probably knew which plates in particular to destroy when ordered to destroy them. How many other observatories have such data from the early 40's, 50's, etc? ETA I mean those 100s of thousands, millions? of photographic plates had to be an incredibly expensive endeavor especially during that time period. Definitely not quite the same thing as taking and storing digital photos today. That's why most have limited family photos even up until the late 90's when digital became the norm. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: It certainly will. One of his main endeavors right now is helping other researchers get grants/investors. His team helps them present everything in the best way and connects them with the right people. I have more “faith” in private researchers than anything that involves the government. I may be misremembering who said it, but I think it was Diana Pasulka calling some group the “Invisible College”. I wonder if Garry Nolan is big part of that group. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: I have more "faith" in private researchers than anything that involves the government. I may be misremembering who said it, but I think it was Diana Pasulka calling some group the "Invisible College". I wonder if Garry Nolan is big part of that group. Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By Cypher214: It certainly will. One of his main endeavors right now is helping other researchers get grants/investors. His team helps them present everything in the best way and connects them with the right people. I have more "faith" in private researchers than anything that involves the government. I may be misremembering who said it, but I think it was Diana Pasulka calling some group the "Invisible College". I wonder if Garry Nolan is big part of that group. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Nolan probably is a recent member. The invisible college has been around for a long time. It's a group of scientists who study strange phenomena/the paranormal in secret so it doesn't affect their actual career. Ahh, yes. That’s right. The invisible college has been around for quite some time. That is what I had found interesting. Not to thread slide too far, but it seems at some point in time the changing of nomenclature for terms is driven by some group as an attempt to remove kooky stigmas. Such as NHI for aliens and UAP for UFO. I’ve held a general interest in the topic for decades and have only recently returned to discover things are named differently. |
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Ahh, yes. That's right. The invisible college has been around for quite some time. That is what I had found interesting. Not to thread slide too far, but it seems at some point in time the changing of nomenclature for terms is driven by some group as an attempt to remove kooky stigmas. Such as NHI for aliens and UAP for UFO. I've held a general interest in the topic for decades and have only recently returned to discover things are named differently. Originally Posted By HighlanderI: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Nolan probably is a recent member. The invisible college has been around for a long time. It's a group of scientists who study strange phenomena/the paranormal in secret so it doesn't affect their actual career. Ahh, yes. That's right. The invisible college has been around for quite some time. That is what I had found interesting. Not to thread slide too far, but it seems at some point in time the changing of nomenclature for terms is driven by some group as an attempt to remove kooky stigmas. Such as NHI for aliens and UAP for UFO. I've held a general interest in the topic for decades and have only recently returned to discover things are named differently. I know one term you don't hear anymore is "EBE", or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. |
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Working with digitized plates from the Palomar Observatory taken before satellites even existed, Beatriz and her colleagues have identified over 100,000 transient light flashes brief, mirror-like reflections that appear and vanish within minutes. Their findings suggest that a significant percentage of these may be real, physical objects orbiting Earth long before the space age began. Even more provocative, these transients show a statistically significant correlation with nuclear detonations and UAP sightings from the 1950s, forming a triangulated pattern between nuclear activity, unidentified aerial phenomena, and reflective orbiting bodies. Beatriz speaks candidly about academic resistance, pressure from peers, and her choice to publish this research openly despite the risks, all while challenging the scientific establishment to confront what may be one of the most ontologically shocking discoveries of our time. ![]() "100,000 UFOs Are Surrounding Earth!" ft. Top Astronomer Beatriz Villarroel Chapters 00:00 Intro 04:15 What is a “transient”? Explained 06:08 July 1952 — the Washington D.C. UFO flap 07:39 How astronomers used photographic plates 09:27 Testing the Earth’s shadow theory 11:52 Real reflections, not plate defects 13:10 Flat, mirror-like objects orbiting Earth 14:33 Harvard’s Donald Menzel destroys UFO evidence 15:18 National security state controls observatories 16:41 The global UFO–nuclear connection 17:45 American Alchemy sponsor break (Shopify) 20:09 105,000 transients and “uncorrelated targets” 22:22 NASA, Space Force, and classified UFO tracking 24:43 The 1953 “Mini Moon” discovery 26:54 La Paz, Tombaugh, and the mysterious satellites 28:58 Metallic, luminous objects — pre-Sputnik UFO data 29:36 Intelligent plate defects debunk 30:29 The scientific method vs taboo subjects 31:56 Why UFOs must be a valid scientific hypothesis 33:48 Enter Dr. Stephen Bruhl from Vanderbilt 34:15 Nuclear detonations, UFOs, and transients triangle 36:19 Statistical methods, 2,700 days analyzed 38:10 68% increase in transients post-nuclear test 39:49 Global test sites and patterns across nations 41:54 Reflective objects appear within 24 hours of nukes 43:33 Error checks, AI validation, and real signal 45:00 Triangular correlation: nukes, UAP, and transients 47:06 Activity drop after 1956 — “they left?” 48:53 Plasma life hypothesis and open questions 50:03 107,000 total transients analyzed 51:19 Cross-verifying observatories and global data 52:40 Debunking cosmic ray and plate defect excuses 54:05 SETI origins and Project Ozma 55:19 The Bracewell probe concept 56:49 Alien communication through radio reflections 57:23 Contact and Hitler’s broadcast echo 58:27 Lagrange points — alien probe parking zones 59:41 Long Delay Echoes — mysterious radio returns 01:00:41 LDEs match Lagrange point distances 01:01:49 Peer review challenges and referee feedback 01:03:49 Fear, pressure, and going public early 01:04:45 Aerospace interest vs academic denial 01:06:29 Betrayal and courage under pressure 01:07:30 Kuhn, Galileo, and politics of discovery 01:09:24 Jacques Vallée’s 1961 retrograde object 01:11:46 Brightness, destruction, and data erasure 01:13:04 Are we surrounded by alien satellites? 01:14:57 The world’s readiness for disclosure 01:16:57 “We are not alone — we have company.” 01:18:58 The future of scientific UAP study 01:19:48 Pale Blue Dot reimagined — who’s watching us? 01:21:01 Closing thoughts, gratitude, and Substack invite ETA: I remember Art Bell talking about the time he experienced Long Delay Echoes mentioned at ~hour. In fact, he discussed a lot of the things in this episode. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The changing terminology may have another motive: hiding documents in plain sight. Supposedly, the terms for the craft and occupants have changed multiple times within the unofficial government groups and it just happens to work like a charm when someone is trying to use FOIA. I know one term you don't hear anymore is "EBE", or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. Good catch. EBE has basically disappeared. |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: ETA: I remember Art Bell talking about the time he experienced Long Delay Echoes mentioned at ~hour. In fact, he discussed a lot of the things in this episode. I wish this place would get with the program and install a like button. I will watch this sometime today. The entire planet is soon going to change radically! |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: ETA: I remember Art Bell talking about the time he experienced Long Delay Echoes mentioned at ~hour. In fact, he discussed a lot of the things in this episode. Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Working with digitized plates from the Palomar Observatory taken before satellites even existed, Beatriz and her colleagues have identified over 100,000 transient light flashes brief, mirror-like reflections that appear and vanish within minutes. Their findings suggest that a significant percentage of these may be real, physical objects orbiting Earth long before the space age began. Even more provocative, these transients show a statistically significant correlation with nuclear detonations and UAP sightings from the 1950s, forming a triangulated pattern between nuclear activity, unidentified aerial phenomena, and reflective orbiting bodies. Beatriz speaks candidly about academic resistance, pressure from peers, and her choice to publish this research openly despite the risks, all while challenging the scientific establishment to confront what may be one of the most ontologically shocking discoveries of our time. Chapters 00:00 Intro 04:15 What is a “transient”? Explained 06:08 July 1952 — the Washington D.C. UFO flap 07:39 How astronomers used photographic plates 09:27 Testing the Earth’s shadow theory 11:52 Real reflections, not plate defects 13:10 Flat, mirror-like objects orbiting Earth 14:33 Harvard’s Donald Menzel destroys UFO evidence 15:18 National security state controls observatories 16:41 The global UFO–nuclear connection 17:45 American Alchemy sponsor break (Shopify) 20:09 105,000 transients and “uncorrelated targets” 22:22 NASA, Space Force, and classified UFO tracking 24:43 The 1953 “Mini Moon” discovery 26:54 La Paz, Tombaugh, and the mysterious satellites 28:58 Metallic, luminous objects — pre-Sputnik UFO data 29:36 Intelligent plate defects debunk 30:29 The scientific method vs taboo subjects 31:56 Why UFOs must be a valid scientific hypothesis 33:48 Enter Dr. Stephen Bruhl from Vanderbilt 34:15 Nuclear detonations, UFOs, and transients triangle 36:19 Statistical methods, 2,700 days analyzed 38:10 68% increase in transients post-nuclear test 39:49 Global test sites and patterns across nations 41:54 Reflective objects appear within 24 hours of nukes 43:33 Error checks, AI validation, and real signal 45:00 Triangular correlation: nukes, UAP, and transients 47:06 Activity drop after 1956 — “they left?” 48:53 Plasma life hypothesis and open questions 50:03 107,000 total transients analyzed 51:19 Cross-verifying observatories and global data 52:40 Debunking cosmic ray and plate defect excuses 54:05 SETI origins and Project Ozma 55:19 The Bracewell probe concept 56:49 Alien communication through radio reflections 57:23 Contact and Hitler’s broadcast echo 58:27 Lagrange points — alien probe parking zones 59:41 Long Delay Echoes — mysterious radio returns 01:00:41 LDEs match Lagrange point distances 01:01:49 Peer review challenges and referee feedback 01:03:49 Fear, pressure, and going public early 01:04:45 Aerospace interest vs academic denial 01:06:29 Betrayal and courage under pressure 01:07:30 Kuhn, Galileo, and politics of discovery 01:09:24 Jacques Vallée’s 1961 retrograde object 01:11:46 Brightness, destruction, and data erasure 01:13:04 Are we surrounded by alien satellites? 01:14:57 The world’s readiness for disclosure 01:16:57 “We are not alone — we have company.” 01:18:58 The future of scientific UAP study 01:19:48 Pale Blue Dot reimagined — who’s watching us? 01:21:01 Closing thoughts, gratitude, and Substack invite ETA: I remember Art Bell talking about the time he experienced Long Delay Echoes mentioned at ~hour. In fact, he discussed a lot of the things in this episode. Jesse is the best. Just started this on my tv |
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
Gatekeepers are trying hard to discredit her.
arXiv is where physicists and astronomers share preprints if a paper isn't there, it almost doesn't exist. It serves as the central hub for open scientific exchange, where unpublished, newly accepted, and even rejected manuscripts are shared so that other researchers can read, test, and build upon the work. It's how ideas circulate rapidly and transparently long before (and sometimes regardless of) formal publication. Now, both of our accepted and peer-reviewed papers in PASP and Scientific Reports have been rejected from arXiv server: in one case I was told to replace an older work; in the other, that the research was "not of interest" to arXiv. Empirical results, peer review, and publication in high-quality journals are no longer enough to satisfy the gatekeepers. Scientists are being prevented from reading new results. The UFO stigma remains strong. |
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: Tagged for interest and later viewing. Do these videos show the stuff you guys are discussing or is it just someone talking about it? |
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Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Gatekeepers are trying hard to discredit her. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G32AZRlXkAAU9eo?format=jpg&name=large
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I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
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Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Gatekeepers are trying hard to discredit her. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G32AZRlXkAAU9eo?format=jpg&name=large Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Gatekeepers are trying hard to discredit her.
arXiv is where physicists and astronomers share preprints if a paper isn't there, it almost doesn't exist. It serves as the central hub for open scientific exchange, where unpublished, newly accepted, and even rejected manuscripts are shared so that other researchers can read, test, and build upon the work. It's how ideas circulate rapidly and transparently long before (and sometimes regardless of) formal publication. Now, both of our accepted and peer-reviewed papers in PASP and Scientific Reports have been rejected from arXiv server: in one case I was told to replace an older work; in the other, that the research was "not of interest" to arXiv. Empirical results, peer review, and publication in high-quality journals are no longer enough to satisfy the gatekeepers. Scientists are being prevented from reading new results. The UFO stigma remains strong. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G32AZRlXkAAU9eo?format=jpg&name=large Could it be that she already passed peer review and is published in a major journal already? That's really reaching but it's a pre-pub site and her paper is already published so not sure, other than people clearly are unhappy with the fact that she got published. |
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: Could it be that she already passed peer review and is published in a major journal already? That's really reaching but it's a pre-pub site and her paper is already published so not sure, other than people clearly are unhappy with the fact that she got published. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Gatekeepers are trying hard to discredit her.
arXiv is where physicists and astronomers share preprints if a paper isn't there, it almost doesn't exist. It serves as the central hub for open scientific exchange, where unpublished, newly accepted, and even rejected manuscripts are shared so that other researchers can read, test, and build upon the work. It's how ideas circulate rapidly and transparently long before (and sometimes regardless of) formal publication. Now, both of our accepted and peer-reviewed papers in PASP and Scientific Reports have been rejected from arXiv server: in one case I was told to replace an older work; in the other, that the research was "not of interest" to arXiv. Empirical results, peer review, and publication in high-quality journals are no longer enough to satisfy the gatekeepers. Scientists are being prevented from reading new results. The UFO stigma remains strong. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G32AZRlXkAAU9eo?format=jpg&name=large Could it be that she already passed peer review and is published in a major journal already? That's really reaching but it's a pre-pub site and her paper is already published so not sure, other than people clearly are unhappy with the fact that she got published. Nothing to see here Peon earthlings, move along.and get back to work for your slave masters. |


