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Link Posted: 10/15/2024 11:25:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: Yesterday 7:20:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: Yesterday 9:45:01 AM EDT
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Chinese President Xi visits Taiwan-facing island after PLA drills simulate blockade

Xi Jinping inspected Dongshan county in Fujian on Tuesday, CCTV says, but offers no details on when trip to province began

Chinese President Xi Jinping visited a coastal island just across the Taiwan Strait a day after the People's Liberation Army (PLA) wrapped up massive military drills around Taiwan.

Xi inspected Dongshan county in the southeastern province of Fujian on Tuesday afternoon, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

The Taiwan-facing island county has served as a regular base for PLA exercises in the past. According to the CCTV report on Wednesday, Xi inspected work on rural vitalisation, inheriting the Communist Party's revolutionary tradition and protecting cultural heritage.

But the report did not say where Xi started his trip in Fujian or when he was due to leave the province.

Most domestic inspections by Xi usually feature a stop at a local PLA division. But it is unclear if he had done so or planned to do so on this trip

The PLA on Monday evening wrapped up a 13-hour exercise encircling Taiwan. Dubbed "Joint Sword-2024B", the drills focused on sea and air combat readiness patrols and the ability to blockade key ports.

Beijing said the drills were a "deterrent" to Taiwan independence forces.

The exercises came four days after Taiwanese leader William Lai Ching-te's "Double Tenth" speech marking 113 years of the founding of the Republic of China, Taiwan's official name.

Lai reiterated that the two sides of the Taiwan Strait were "not subordinate to each other" and that Beijing "had no authority" to represent the island.

Beijing sees Taiwan as part of China to be reunited by force if necessary. Most countries, including Taiwan's major backer the United States, do not recognise the self-governed island as an independent state. But Washington is opposed to any attempt to take Taiwan by force and is committed to arming it for defence.

Double Tenth on October 10 has been celebrated in Taiwan since 1949, when the Nationalists or Kuomintang (KMT) retreated to the island following their defeat to the communists in the Chinese civil war. The date marks the anniversary of the start of the 1911 revolution that led to the founding of the ROC on the mainland.

Dongshan became a major cross-strait battlefield in 1953, when the KMT unsuccessfully tried to retake the PLA-controlled island   in what was the last attempt by the Taiwanese army to attack the mainland.

Whoa!! I'm cool now!! This is the first time I could pull something from the archiving site!!! Thanks, GoldenMead!!
There's also a video produced by SCMP. (The music is a rip of the Doors, "Riding on the Storm.")
PLA launches blockade drills around Taiwan

Link Posted: Yesterday 11:36:42 PM EDT
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Let's get the Score Card out of the way!
Taiwan tracks 20 Chinese military aircraft, 8 naval ships
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked 20 Chinese military aircraft and eight naval vessels around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Wednesday (Oct. 16) and 6 a.m. on Thursday.

All 20 of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft crossed the Taiwan Strait median line in the country's central and southwestern air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND.
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They're not keeping score any more, as in a running total. My number is going to be off, but my guess is it's around 220 aircraft. I count the Chinese Coast Guard ships because they're surface combatants. The one very interesting thing is that when Joint Sword-2024A ended, the PLA was still sending  between 30 to 40 aircraft per day for almost all of June.


Next we have another statement from the NSB Chief. You know it's serious when the secret squirrel guy is talking out loud:
Taiwan security director says China's military drills backfired
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)    Taiwan National Security Bureau (NSB) Director-General Tsai Ming-yen (   ) said that China's latest military drills on Monday (Oct. 14) backfired because they caused more condemnation from the international community.

Tsai said on Wednesday (Oct. 16) that the People's Liberation Army (PLA) "Joint Sword-2024B" military exercise around Taiwan had negative side effects for China, per CNA. He said the drills made the world more supportive of Taiwan.

Tsai added the drills, purportedly in response to President Lai Ching-te's (   ) National Day speech, were shorter and smaller in scale than similar large-scale drills in May after Lai's inaugural address.
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Debatable point as it was 125 aircraft, ground controlled, and some were launched from a carrier that back-tracked on us. But, as for the rest of it...sure.


According to a Chinese foreign ministry statement, "The drill also serves as a stern warning to the separatist acts of Taiwan independence forces. It is a legitimate and necessary operation for safeguarding state sovereignty and national unity."
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Tsai cited several international statements condemning China to argue that its actions backfired. For example, Tsai said the US Department of Defense issued a statement denouncing China's military pressure operation as "irresponsible, disproportionate, and destabilizing."

Tsai added China engaged in cognitive warfare by spreading false information on the internet during the drills. He said Taiwan was able to disseminate information, conduct traceability searches, and report various cognitive operations to relevant units for clarification and response.
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Link Posted: Yesterday 11:52:24 PM EDT
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There's going to be a lot of quote boxes! I'm going to put all the PRC centric-statements in the first group:
TAIPEI, Oct 15 (Reuters) - China said its day of war games around democratically governed Taiwan on Monday was a warning against "separatist acts" and threatened more could be in the offing, drawing condemnation from the governments of Taiwan and the United States.
BLOCKADES
The Chinese military said part of the drills practiced what it called a "key port blockade", severing Taiwan's maritime lifeline for imports of trade, food and energy.

It aimed to show China's ability to stop energy imports, especially at its ports offloading liquefied natural gas (LNG), military expert Zhang Chi of China's National Defence University told the state-backed Global Times.
CHINA IS EDGING CLOSER

The drill zones portrayed in a map issued by China's military were closer to Taiwan than in previous exercises, with all, for the first time, including areas within Taiwan's 24-mile (39-km) contiguous zone.
A MORE INVOLVED COAST GUARD

China's coast guard, now the world's largest by far, was more heavily involved in Monday's drills than earlier, encircling the Taiwan-controlled Matsu islands beside the Chinese coast and operating on both sides of Taiwan's mainland.
PROPAGANDA
Previous Chinese war games have been accompanied by the release of military videos of animations of missile attacks on Taiwan.

This time, one caricatured Taiwan President Lai Ching-te with devil-like pointed ears, in what one security source in Taiwan called an unusually personal attack on a man Beijing already detests as a "separatist".

China also released two less slickly-made videos of navy sailors commenting on weather conditions and their locations, close to Taiwan's major ports of Keelung and Kaohsiung.
INFILTRATION?

Shortly after the drills began, Taiwan's coast guard said it detained a Chinese person using a rubber boat to approach one of the highly militarised Taiwan-controlled islets opposite China's city of Xiamen.
One day we should do a thing on "infiltration." Might do it in the History forum for safety's sake. In the meantime, if you come across anything about Wehrmacht and Abwehr operations in Poland and the Benelux countries, read it. That was some text book stuff right there!!

Let's cover Taiwanese comments:
BLOCKADES
"The People's Liberation Army wants to prove that we have the ability to block the import of energy resources for Taiwan, thereby having an important impact on the economy and society," the newspaper quoted Zhang as saying.

Foreign military attaches and analysts say this element of the drills is being closely scrutinised, as such a tactic could pressure and isolate Taiwan ahead of any full-blown invasion.

On Monday, Taiwan's state-run energy company CPC said LNG imports had been unaffected, decrying as false news online suggestions to the contrary.

"This time there was a rather special component, the so-called quarantine or blockade, during which they practiced their blockading abilities," said Su Tzu-yun, director of defence strategy and resources at Taiwan's top military think tank, the Institute for National Defence and Security Research.
CHINA IS EDGING CLOSER
"All the drill zones they announced are more closely approaching Taiwan island, and all include the 24-mile zone," Ma Chen-kun, a Chinese military expert at Taiwan's National Defence University, told a forum in Taipei on Monday.
A MORE INVOLVED COAST GUARD
Taiwan officials say use of the coast guard is part of a "grey zone" strategy that stops short of war and aims to enforce what China calls its right to manage and control the Taiwan Strait.

Analysts say China's coast guard is able to keep up a near-constant presence near Taiwan and down into the disputed South China Sea.

Taiwan is particularly wary of Chinese coast guard efforts to board its civilian ships on law enforcement grounds. Such instances could be a very serious provocation that Taiwan's coast guard would do everything to prevent, its deputy chief, Hsieh Ching-chin, said on Monday.

It was "unprecedented" for so many coast guard ships to patrol simultaneously around the island, said Collin Koh, of Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

The step "could herald a new norm for Beijing's grey zone pressure on Taiwan," he added.
PROPAGANDA
Taiwan television stations show such videos as part of regular drill coverage. Taiwan's government calls them part of "cognitive warfare" waged to sap confidence in its military.
INFILTRATION?
The coast guard said it could not rule this incident out of China's "grey zone" activities threatening Taiwan's offshore islands during the drills.

Link Posted: Yesterday 11:54:17 PM EDT
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This one should be fairly easy:
BEIJING/TAIPEI, Oct 16 (Reuters) - China will never commit to renouncing the use of force over Taiwan, the government in Beijing said on Wednesday after another bout of war games and a visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping to the scene of a famous defeat for Taiwanese forces.
Done!!!
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:56:44 PM EDT
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Joe Biden said what?

Joe Biden is not making any dictations.
Link Posted: Today 3:18:32 PM EDT
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So everyone usually talks about how there's two periods each year when the water in the strait is calm enough for a successful invasion. Have we passed that preferred time yet so China has to wait for next spring?

I realize China could still impose a blockade or such. Just wondering if there's any threat of invasion later this year.
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Originally Posted By CapedCrusader:

So everyone usually talks about how there's two periods each year when the water in the strait is calm enough for a successful invasion. Have we passed that preferred time yet so China has to wait for next spring?

I realize China could still impose a blockade or such. Just wondering if there's any threat of invasion later this year.
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Oct 1-30 then May so yes that’s been passed
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Originally Posted By CapedCrusader:

So everyone usually talks about how there's two periods each year when the water in the strait is calm enough for a successful invasion. Have we passed that preferred time yet so China has to wait for next spring?

I realize China could still impose a blockade or such. Just wondering if there's any threat of invasion later this year.
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Strangely fighting season on the border with India extends to Thanksgiving

I don’t recall typhoon season for the Bay of Bengal
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What a World!! I have to go al-jazeera to get a balanced story as most stories are following SCMP/Reuters! Oh well.

China accuses Japanese vessel of 'illegally' entering disputed waters
China's coastguard said it ordered a Japanese fishing vessel to leave the country's territorial waters after it "illegally" entered an area surrounding a disputed group of islands in the East China Sea.

A spokesperson for Beijing's coastguard said on Thursday it "took necessary control measures in accordance with the law, warned [the ship] and expelled it" during the incursion into waters around the Diaoyu Islands   which Tokyo calls the Senkaku Islands   on October 15-16.

"We urge the Japanese side to immediately stop all illegal activities in these waters," spokesperson Liu Dejun said in a statement.

Japan has yet to comment on this latest incident near the disputed islands.

Tokyo rejects China's claim over the tiny, uninhabited islands in the East China Sea but beneath which there are believed to be potential undersea oil and gas reserves.

Japan and China have been involved in several confrontations in the disputed waters in recent months.

In April, China's coastguard confronted Japanese lawmakers conducting an inspection visit to the area. The lawmakers spent three hours near the islands and used drones to observe the surroundings, in what China called an act of "infringement and provocation".

In June, Japan lodged a protest against Beijing after it said Chinese vessels, carrying what appeared to be cannons, entered what it claims as Japanese territorial waters surrounding the islands.

China also maintains expansive maritime claims in the South China Sea which overlap with several Southeast Asian nations. Confrontations with the Philippine navy, in particular, have surged over the previous 18 months, raising fears that a miscalculation could lead to an outbreak of conflict in the disputed area.

In 2016, the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled that Beijing's claim to 90 percent of the South China Sea had no basis in international law.

Beijing's increasingly assertive stance on Taiwan, resulting in an uptick in military activity in waters surrounding the self-ruled island, which Beijing claims as its own, is also of growing concern in Japan.

ETA: I'm watching the Al Smith dinner and fucking up here. I forgot to add that the one aspect that is missing in all the stories is did the Japanese fishing boat comply? I mean eventually it will as it's dragging its nets, and water temps will drop and fish will go else where, the fishing boat will go also. There's no answer there.
Link Posted: Today 10:07:51 PM EDT
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We have more debriefings on the recent Joint Sword-2024B.

Senior official says China building capacity to rapidly strike Taiwan
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   In a government assessment of China's "Joint Sword-2024B" exercises around Taiwan, a senior security official said on Thursday (Oct. 17) that Beijing is building capacity to turn drills into a full-out attack.

The People's Liberation Army (PLA) on Monday held drills around Taiwan. China's foreign ministry said they were a warning to independence forces following President Lai Ching-te's (   ) National Day speech on Oct. 10.

China is "increasing the building up of their capacity to turn military exercises into a conflict," the Taiwanese official told Reuters, requesting anonymity to speak more frankly.  

China "approached very close to Taiwan" and "increased their pressure on Taiwan and squeezed Taiwan's response time," said the official. "This drill presented more of a threat than ever before to Taiwan."
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Taiwan said a record 153 Chinese aircraft were spotted in the most recent drills. An "unprecedented" 25 Chinese navy and coast guard ships also neared Taiwan's 24-nautical mile contiguous zone, the official added.

Taiwan's defense ministry on Thursday said China currently carries out three to four "joint combat readiness patrols" around the country a month, per Reuters.

Furthermore, the official said that although China did not fire missiles toward Taiwan, it practiced missile launches.
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Defense Minister Wellington Koo (   ) has said that as China's military drills around Taiwan increase, it is becoming harder to discern when Beijing might be transitioning from a training exercise to war. Koo said China has verified its ability to attack Taiwan in various ways, and Taiwan needs to test its ability to respond to a "potential sudden contingency."

"We must consider how we differentiate between peacetime and wartime,"
Ko added. Taiwan's reaction time to an emergency "cannot be as long as imagined in the past."
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I'll skip quotes from the next story as it's something we know, understand, and there's a quote in red above:
China creating 'new normal' in Taiwan Strait: Foreign minister
This is from the Foreign Ministry while above the Defense Ministry.

We have a follow up on the laws that the PRC has passed!!!!
China says it received hundreds of tip-offs for Taiwan 'separatists'
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   China's Taiwan Affairs Office (TAO) said on Wednesday (Oct. 16) that its reporting mailbox has received hundreds of tip-offs about Taiwan "independence separatists."

In September, TAO set up a reporting mechanism to receive tips about people supposedly inciting Taiwanese independence. TAO Spokesperson Chen Binhua (   ) said that "hundreds of clues" have already been sent to its mailbox from people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, per CNA.

Chen said all reports from the public will be carefully verified with the relevant departments. "We will never let a single Taiwan independence element off the hook, but we will never wrongly accuse good people either," he added.

Chen said punishing such individuals was intended to safeguard territorial integrity. It was also in the interests of both sides of the Taiwan Strait.

Chen also accused the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) government of seeking independence and deliberately escalating cross-strait tensions.
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In response on Wednesday, Taiwan's Mainland Affairs Council (MAC) said, "We urge the CCP to turn back before it's too late and promote positive cross-strait interactions as the right approach." It added, "No matter how the Chinese Communist Party investigates, wrong actions will only lead to wrong outcomes."
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TAO's website currently lists 12 "diehard" Taiwan independence separatists, including Vice President Hsiao Bi-khim (   ). On Monday (Oct. 14), China added Taiwanese businessperson Robert Tsao (   ) and DPP Legislator Puma Shen (   ) to the list over their involvement in Kuma Academy.
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Link Posted: 10/18/2024 1:05:30 AM EDT
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Score Card!! It looks like they won't be announcing the count and amount anymore. I guess I'll start an excel sheet for it on 1NOV.
Taiwan tracks 19 Chinese military aircraft, 6 naval ships
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked 19 Chinese military aircraft and six naval vessels around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Thursday (Oct. 17) and 6 a.m. on Friday.

Of the 19 People's Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft, 15 crossed the Taiwan Strait median line in the nation's northern, central, and southwestern air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND.
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Let me direct your attention to area 1, upper right corner. This is the third time that a single plane has dashed over the Median Line and dashed back out to I guess RTB? It's the fourth time over all with one of the times area 1 was open for 15 minutes and two planes were counted in the area. We can assume it was the same dash into and out of the area, but they did it separately otherwise the area would might have been open for a single minute.

The other thing we don't know is the flight path it take to get to area 1 and the speed at which the aircraft travel. Let's take two hypotheticals: aircraft traveling on 27 degrees North Lat line have one implication flying in and out while aircraft traveling South on the 122 East Long line doing the same in and out. Either way, this is now an established pattern to watch for.


Follow up on the F-16V delivery story:
Taiwan expects US F-16V jet deliveries to be completed in 2026
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   Taiwan expects the delivery of 66 US-made F-16V fighter jets to be completed by the end of 2026, Defense Minister Wellington Koo (   ) said on Thursday (Oct. 17).

Koo's remarks were part of a report to the legislature's Foreign Affairs and National Defense Committee, during which Taiwan People's Party Legislator Lin Yi-chun (   ) asked about the deliveries, per CNA. Koo said the first batch of F-16s would be delivered before year's end and that 19 others are currently in production.
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Li expressed concern that Taiwan would need more pilots to ensure adequate manpower once the jets are delivered. Koo said that plans have been made to train more pilots and that this should not be an issue.

Air Force Command Chief of Staff Wang Te-yang (   ) said plans for training F16V pilots have been put in place. He said training has been split into three phases. The first phase occurred at the end of 2023, while the second and third will happen in 2025 and 2026, respectively.
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According to a Liberty Times report published Sept. 12 that cited an unnamed military official, Taiwan was expected to receive the first batch of the fighters in late September. The same report said 65 Air Force personnel will be sent to the US next year for F-16 training for pilots and seed instructors.

The US approved the sale of 66 F-16Vs to Taiwan for US$8 billion (NT$257 billion) in 2019.
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