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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:39:21 AM EDT
Space Force Guardian will command mission to bring stranded astronauts back to earth - LINK
A Space Force officer will command a mission later this month to safely bring home two astronauts who have been unexpectedly stuck aboard the International Space Station, or ISS, marking the first time a Guardian will launch into space for such a high-profile operation. Col. Nick Hague, an active-duty Space Force Guardian, will be joined by Roscosmos cosmonaut Aleksandr Gorbunov aboard the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft for NASA's Crew-9 mission. Originally, Hague and Gorbunov were supposed to be joined by two other astronauts for a trip to space, but problems with the Boeing Starliner spacecraft that have left astronauts Barry Wilmore and Sunita Williams stuck aboard the space station for months longer than anticipated shifted the mission objective, date and staffing. Hague and Gorbunov will launch no earlier than Sept. 24, NASA said in a Friday news release, and will return to Earth with Wilmore and Williams in February 2025. The Guardian and the cosmonaut were chosen for their particular experience and skill sets, the agency said. "The decision to fly Hague was made by NASA chief astronaut Joe Acaba at the agency's Johnson Space Center in Houston," the space agency said in the release. "Acaba had to balance flying a NASA crew member with previous spaceflight experience to command the flight, while ensuring NASA maintains an integrated crew with a Roscosmos cosmonaut who can operate their critical systems for continued, safe station operations." The other two astronauts originally slated to join Hague and Gorbunov will be eligible for reassignment on another space mission. The Crew-9 mission will mark the first time in history that a Space Force Guardian has launched into space. Boeing's Starliner launched June 5 with Williams and Wilmore on a mission slated to last only eight days, but mechanical issues with the spacecraft and concerns over whether it could return the duo safely have left them aboard the ISS for around three months. NASA hopes to bring the unmanned Starliner back to Earth as soon as this upcoming weekend. While the Space Force does not create or train astronauts, the Department of Defense has historically provided and loaned many pilots to NASA for involvement with civilian space exploration. Roughly two-thirds of NASA astronauts have prior military experience, according to the Space Force. Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who focuses on space and defense policy, told Military.com in an interview Monday that Hague's involvement in the Crew-9 launch, while notable, may lend to more public confusion about the Space Force's overall mission, which is creating forces to protect and defend America's satellite fleet and interests in space. The missions of NASA and the Space Force have often been confused by the public, Harrison added, just like how the now-canceled Netflix series "Space Force" led to misconceptions about the service branch. "The Space Force has Guardians, some of whom may be on loan to NASA to work for NASA as astronauts, but they're not working for the Space Force as astronauts," Harrison said. "It kind of doesn't help, right? Because it, again, conflates what the Space Force does with what NASA does, just like the Netflix TV series conflated the two." Mike Hopkins, originally an Air Force officer, became the first Guardian in space when he took his service oath in a ceremony aboard the ISS in 2020. Hague will be the first Guardian to launch into space if the Crew-9 mission goes as planned. However, it would mark his third launch and second time in space overall as he had previous missions when he was a member of the Air Force. His first mission in 2018 ended with a malfunction, leading to an in-flight launch abort. His first visit to space happened in 2019, where he stayed aboard the ISS for 203 days. Following that mission, he was the Space Force's director of test and evaluation, serving as an Air Force officer, then transferred into the newest service branch in 2021. While the public may be confused over NASA's mission and the Space Force's job, Harrison pointed out that Hague's involvement with the operation could potentially inspire future generations to take on a similar career path. "The positive, obviously, is they get a little extra press for the Space Force, and it could help recruiting," Harrison said. "Eighteen-year-olds out there in high school look and say, 'Oh cool, there's this NASA astronaut, and he came from the Space Force.' .... 'Maybe I want to follow his career trajectory and join the Space Force.'" Bigger_Hammer  |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:42:22 AM EDT
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Jesus. Not the bee.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:49:41 AM EDT
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I don't get why they wouldn't just add the extra seats and fly up with them empty while still carrying the assigned crew. Dragon has the capacity.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 1:55:55 AM EDT
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I'm glad they have a US Military Officer to keep an eye on that Ruskie - and make sure he doesn't copy our tech or sabotage the spacecraft ...
But I wonder if the Sig 320 is "Space Force - Space Flight Certified" - because your pistol going off "by itself" or "accidentally" and making a 9mm atmospheric ventilation hole in your capsule while in space would sure suck... Bigger_Hammer
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Posted: 9/4/2024 3:56:32 PM EDT
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This is the First "Space Force" Officer to launch so history in the making with Space X?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:00:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JQ66]
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Them should’ve just called them MAKOs or something like that.
You know they wanted to. The replacement suits for the two nasa crew should’ve been made with red fabric too. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:00:45 PM EDT
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why do we need a new thread for old news?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: why do we need a new thread for old news? The names of the crew members is new news. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: why do we need a new thread for old news? We're working towards having a thread for every day Stayliner and her passengers are on station. Soon the front page of GD will be nothing but Stayliner krewe threads once folks stop mourning Paul Harrell in 87 threads. @Aimless - with no dupe police, this is what you get. Everything will be duped - including any thread you dupe. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:20:18 PM EDT
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Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By torstin: Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS? Maybe in a novel or movie. What would be the point? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: The names of the crew members is new news. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By Chokey: why do we need a new thread for old news? The names of the crew members is new news. no it's not https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/First-Starliner-crew-launched-Boeing-and-NASA-heated-arguments-Page-28-post-36/5-2715743/?page=28#i110356778 |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 4:26:28 PM EDT
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So, will the American people get a refund from Boeing? Am I going to see a refund check from the government for a few bucks?
How much money did NASA pay for their contract to Boeing for the Starliner? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:16:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: I'm glad they have a US Military Officer to keep an eye on that Ruskie - and make sure he doesn't copy our tech or sabotage the spacecraft ... But I wonder if the Sig 320 is "Space Force - Space Flight Certified" - because your pistol going off "by itself" or "accidentally" and making a 9mm atmospheric ventilation hole in your capsule while in space would sure suck... Bigger_Hammer Well. Aren't you a little ray of sunshine. Fun at parties, I bet ! LOL |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:19:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By torstin: Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS? Oh. Yeah. Most definitely. Russkie probably wants to crash it into Mt Rushmore or something. Bomb Tokyo even. Sheesh. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:37:41 PM EDT
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So they are putting a military officer in command of a commercial vessel..........is this Harris "take their patent!" speech come to life?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:40:27 PM EDT
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Maybe they need a military officer to confront the thing making noises in the Starliner?
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:43:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spiffums: So they are putting a military officer in command of a commercial vessel..........is this Harris "take their patent!" speech come to life? |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 7:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Maybe they need a military officer to confront the thing making noises in the Starliner? When Trump gets back in he needs to create the Space Marines. Just in case. |
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By torstin: Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS?  The Russians are already in control of the ISS. It's built around a Russian core module.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:48:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rainmaker9]
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So they're sending a white man to "save" the stranded crew, which includes a strong woman?
Terrible optics! This is the time we need to send a LBTQKDKSNFJSKFKEBDKQLWJFJWKDHEI duck who identifies as a bag of cilantro! Credentials be damned! It's flown from the ground anyways! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:49:17 PM EDT
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LOL, I forgot those people were still stuck up there.
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Posted: 9/4/2024 8:58:20 PM EDT
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 NASA's Boeing Uncrewed Starliner Spacecraft Undocking Updates and LIVE View From Space Station #iss |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:55:18 AM EDT
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 Boeing Starliner's undocking and return to Earth explained - Any risks with thrusters? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:23:36 PM EDT
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Don't know there is enough money on the planet to pay me to try to fly a manned re-entry in the defective Boeing Starliner docked to the ISS.
I don't mind confessing that I am rather afraid of incineration while still alive  Bigger_Hammer
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:28:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By torstin: Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS?  you realize there are 3 Russians already onboard the ISS, right? Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:32:03 PM EDT
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“Space Force Guardian” sounds very, very gay.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:34:47 PM EDT
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Russian parts, American parts ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:36:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bubbatheredneck]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rustler: you realize there are 3 Russians already onboard the ISS, right?https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/167167/2024-09-05_11_27_26-Who_Is_In_Space_-_Li-3313908.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/167167/2024-09-05_11_27_35-Who_Is_In_Space_-_Li-3313909.JPG  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulump: Russian parts, American parts ALL MADE IN TAIWAN! Best line |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spiffums: So they are putting a military officer in command of a commercial vessel..........is this Harris "take their patent!" speech come to life? I’m not sure if you are serious or not. If you are serious, NASA is full of military astronauts and they have been flying commercial vessels for years. If you are not serious, then you already know. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:19:51 PM EDT
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 Boeing’s Starliner Spacecraft Is Ready For Its Return To Earth |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: I'm glad they have a US Military Officer to keep an eye on that Ruskie - and make sure he doesn't copy our tech or sabotage the spacecraft ... But I wonder if the Sig 320 is "Space Force - Space Flight Certified" - because your pistol going off "by itself" or "accidentally" and making a 9mm atmospheric ventilation hole in your capsule while in space would sure suck... Bigger_Hammer It's OK to drill holes in the hull if you're a female astronaut though. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: “Space Force Guardian” sounds very, very gay. Every single space force press conference with or mentioning a high ranking officer in that branch has been a tranny sooooo |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Every single space force press conference with or mentioning a high ranking officer in that branch has been a tranny sooooo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KELBEAST: Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: “Space Force Guardian” sounds very, very gay. Every single space force press conference with or mentioning a high ranking officer in that branch has been a tranny sooooo So, we're talking gay as dried cum on a mustache?  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 7:54:10 PM EDT
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I wonder what fucking in zero gravity would be like?
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:02:44 PM EDT
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Has anybody got the Vegas line on the odds of Boeings junkpile making it back in one piece?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:52:11 PM EDT
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We shouldn’t be flying any Russians.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By torstin: Could the Russian overpower the American and take control of the ship and ISS? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:04:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: We shouldn’t be flying any Russians. It's an INTERNATIONAL space station. The Russians gave us rides for years when we retired the Shuttle. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 1:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: We shouldn’t be flying any Russians. ISS stands for International Space Station, and the Russians own the core modules. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:06:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:08:12 PM EDT
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In before the DOJ arrests some people for Russians colluding to influence an election by saving astronauts.
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