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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:14:12 PM EDT
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For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 7:45:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. More like shakeapart cruise. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighlandMac: I guess it’s time to call Elon and send space X to save them. Nice work Boeing. Never change.  Savage. But accurate 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:15:56 PM EDT
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"That motherfucker right there is not real."
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:17:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: that was a great idea. lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:23:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fox2008: It's Boeing, guess they should be lucky they're still alive to worry about the trip back down. Has anyone in mission control suddenly caught pneumonia and shot themselves in the back of the head with a shotgun six times? |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Elon should offer to go get them... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Originally Posted By PR361: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:31:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:38:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew |
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USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:38:55 PM EDT
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Are they in a little tiny capsule with no room to move? Jeez, that would drive me crazy.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greyninja: They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew They got there late and now are dealing with ISS schedule conflicts which is a space walk. They will not have dueling operations like that on ISS. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:43:36 PM EDT
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So Boeing is the first to "leave one up there" - I guess being the butt of a worn out joke is a first of sorts.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:49:21 PM EDT
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Starliner Max?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:53:51 PM EDT
[#14]
lost in space... a three hour tour
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:57:05 PM EDT
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Clickbait title. Based on the article they are not stranded in orbit unable to return…they will not return on time but are neither stranded or unable.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:58:10 PM EDT
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Did you all know about Boeings racecar attempt?
 E46 M3 loses door at 280 kph | Nürburgring Onboard Race car |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:58:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shooter_gregg]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Elon should offer to go get them... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Originally Posted By PR361: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... ETA. If nothing else, dragon could tow it back. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: The Russian Soyuz is the safest lander. I’d hitch a ride on one of those. factually incorrect. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoyoteGray: Elon should offer to go get them... If they cant go back on starliner then thats literally whats going to happen. no option. Pretty sure only Crew Dragon can autopilot and dock itself. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:03:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? Crew 8 is still there and can carry 7. It only brought 4 with it (3 astronauts, 1 cosmonaut). |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:07:21 PM EDT
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This is what happens when you launch a DEI built rocketship with known problems just to save face
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: factually incorrect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Originally Posted By eurotrash: The Russian Soyuz is the safest lander. I’d hitch a ride on one of those. factually incorrect. Considering the length of service it is statistically the safest. I'd rather ride dragon though. Looks like a more comfortable ride. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:10:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jDrexler]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greyninja: They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greyninja: Originally Posted By jDrexler: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. They are UNABLE to return on time, how are they not stranded till the issue is resolved? They had issues pop up in route to the ISS. Starliner also encountered problems with its thrusters. Five of the capsule’s 28 thrusters malfunctioned, forcing the crew to scramble and restart four of them. This setback caused Starliner to miss its initial docking window and circle the Earth for an extra hour before successfully linking up with the ISS. https://interestingengineering.com/space/starliner-docks-at-space-station-with-crew If you are stuck in traffic are you stranded, or delayed? Your thread title sucks and you know it. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:12:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. Boeing can’t even get standard nomenclature correct. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guyknight: This is what happens when you launch a DEI built rocketship with known problems just to save face Hopefully, those awful (old white male engineers) charge enough in consultation fees that the bean counters starve. 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:25:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dark_light: Are they in a little tiny capsule with no room to move? Jeez, that would drive me crazy.  Boeing Starliner crew enters space station after docking |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:28:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: They got there late and now are dealing with ISS schedule conflicts which is a space walk. They will not have dueling operations like that on ISS. Yeah, they're not doing a spacewalk to inspect Starliner. It was already on the schedule. Delaying Starliner return is the least impact on schedule. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:28:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:29:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Boeing: "we didn't include that feature"
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:33:59 PM EDT
[#30]
We laugh, but let's hope they get it figured out and get home safely.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: "Shakeout Cruise". Is that anything like a shakedown cruise? Maybe that's what they call it when it's a Boeing. Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down." 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:37:01 PM EDT
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If it's boeing, it ain't going (to come back)?
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:38:45 PM EDT
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I was pleasantly surprised that thing got into space without losing a door or a bumper. I was unpleasantly surprised to learn they were having problems with the RCS thrusters when it came time to dock. I still do not understand why NASA has pursued the Starliner project when we have Space X, which is a vastly superior launch system with a perfect safety record and substantial economic advantage. Space X could certainly make modifications to a Crew Dragon to make it suitable for moon missions. We do not need Starliner. I will be praying for the safe return of those astronauts.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dragoontwo: Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. iunderstoodthatreference.jpg |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:40:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dragoontwo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down."  The enemies gate is down.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: Originally Posted By CoyoteGray: Originally Posted By PR361: Maybe they can catch a ride home on SpaceX and kick their junker to the curb. Elon should offer to go get them... Is there enough time to set up a dragon capsule and rocket to go get them? He could probably have one off the ground in 48 hours |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 9:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Antero: I was pleasantly surprised that thing got into space without losing a door or a bumper. I was unpleasantly surprised to learn they were having problems with the RCS thrusters when it came time to dock. I still do not understand why NASA has pursued the Starliner project when we have Space X, which is a vastly superior launch system with a perfect safety record and substantial economic advantage. Space X could certainly make modifications to a Crew Dragon to make it suitable for moon missions. We do not need Starliner. I will be praying for the safe return of those astronauts. Because government and cronyism Also, I'm wondering if we have a couple boeing/nasa people ITT |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:05:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dragoontwo: Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dragoontwo: Originally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By Harmonic_Distortion: its not exactly stranded according to that article. Editorializing article titles is a bannable offense on a whole lot of forums, and for good reason. Leave it to somebody from NY to tell us how they do it on other forums. I ain’t wrong tho. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:06:50 PM EDT
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Built by the best DEI possibly funded by US taxpayers
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:11:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: If you are stuck in traffic are you stranded, or delayed? Your thread title sucks and you know it. Not only that but there is a Starliner thread for this mission. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:13:40 PM EDT
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"Hey, Elon...can we get a ride?"
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:14:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Is the mcas still working at least?
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SystemFailCoreDump: "Oh, you wanted it to actually bring them back too?! Weeell that's gonna cost extra." I hope that was in the contract, and add alive and well to that. ….knowing the Gov that part might have gotten left out….. 
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:21:33 PM EDT
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A few more days to let the rest of the helium leak out.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OSUBeaver: What dumb fucker would say something like that? Your known pile of shit isn't working, putting humans at risk, it's exciting, and "you excercised..." What in the actual fuck? If I was one of the people on that pile, if I made it back I'd kick that dipshit in the nuts as hard as I could as soon as I could. https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/06/08/starliner-crew-welcomed-aboard-space-station-news-conference/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OSUBeaver: "Wow. Yesterday was exciting, and I didn't think we could make it more exciting, and we did that today," said Mark Nappi, Boeing's Starliner program manager. "It was amazing. We accomplished a lot and really more than expected. We exercised the team, we exercised the crew and just had an outstanding day." What dumb fucker would say something like that? Your known pile of shit isn't working, putting humans at risk, it's exciting, and "you excercised..." What in the actual fuck? If I was one of the people on that pile, if I made it back I'd kick that dipshit in the nuts as hard as I could as soon as I could. https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/06/08/starliner-crew-welcomed-aboard-space-station-news-conference/ That's the sign of senior managers at Boeing. The more enthusiastic sounding, the better the bonus. That engineering staff that has been putting in long days isn't so excited. But very few will speak up or push back; that's confrontational, no matter how it's presented or how true. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:26:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BM1455]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikov762: If anyone blows the whistle about this......they are as good as dead. They will just be sent on the next BA trip up there.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:31:51 PM EDT
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Recent Titanic tourists found out that extreme tourism might not be good thing.
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:31:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZippZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: Clickbait title. Based on the article they are not stranded in orbit unable to return…they will not return on time but are neither stranded or unable. Well it's still early. Be patient and give Boeing the benefit of the doubt they can still screw it up. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dragoontwo: The enemies gate is down.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dragoontwo: Originally Posted By LoBrau: Well, it's space, so there's no such thing as "down." The enemies gate is down.Whichever way your feet are pointed, isn't it? |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 10:38:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AeroE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lumper: It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lumper: Originally Posted By Pallas: For example, engineers discovered issues with Starliner's parachute system and its wiring, much of which turned out to be wrapped in flammable tape. that was a great idea. lol It sounds like they were following the Soviet example of venting peroxide past the parachute lines (which made them fall apart - and caused the somewhat important capsule they were holding to hit the ground at excessive speed. (similar to dropping it from 10,000 feet or so.) The issue with the chutes is the tear away rate of the soft links. Nothing to due with venting or wrapping. About five years ago a corporate wide call came out hunting for someone with experience to work on those risers. I nearly threw my hat in, I was working a job I despised, and I have three decelerator design handbooks. I was apparently as qualified as anyone, I figured the work would be sorted out by testing after looking into the problem. I couldn't understand why they weren't sending proposals to the expert companies. The wiring is a separate problem. Wiring installations always get inadequate scrutiny. The work is beneath the structures folks that should be checking, and I doubt any of the current crew does more than assume another group checks icky details, instead of backing them up. Kapton insulation is one of those that crops up every few years, either because there's no tribal memory or a vendor doesn't pay attention to the requirements. And since no one gives a damn, the requirements might not be correct, or someone not qualified signs off on a substitute, or a vendor substitutes anyway. |
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