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Posted: 8/15/2024 2:14:41 PM EST
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Posted: 8/15/2024 2:47:05 PM EST
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I put the press conference on in the background yesterday...
I did not inspire confidence. |
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Posted: 8/21/2024 11:05:21 AM EST
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Rescue team
 
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Posted: 8/22/2024 12:01:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh, the leaks are so small they've got plenty of helium - clearly, b/c it's still up there. Not like they can't borrow a little from the ISS before they leave. you cant be serious. How exactly do you refill a space craft on station? |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 12:33:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThe women in that group aren't ugly. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 2:12:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you cant be serious. How exactly do you refill a space craft on station? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Eh, the leaks are so small they've got plenty of helium - clearly, b/c it's still up there. Not like they can't borrow a little from the ISS before they leave. you cant be serious. How exactly do you refill a space craft on station? Only partially serious - helium isn't the reason it's still up there. I know it's velocity around a gravitational body, but it's fun to throw a bone to the flat earthers every once & a while.  Boeing could design & build a helium replenishment kit, send it up on a crewed or cargo trip, and replenish the helium tanks on an EVA. It could possibly be accomplished w/ the Canadarm, not requiring an EVA, but certainly specialized equipment & a high pressure helium tank. Anything can be accomplished on orbit - it just requires money. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 4:38:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The women in that group aren't ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted: The women in that group aren't ugly. And not an unnatural hair color amongst them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 5:47:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And not an unnatural hair color amongst them. Grown up South park cast. Even has Token. But yeah left side blond. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 6:51:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only partially serious - helium isn't the reason it's still up there. I know it's velocity around a gravitational body, but it's fun to throw a bone to the flat earthers every once & a while. Boeing could design & build a helium replenishment kit, send it up on a crewed or cargo trip, and replenish the helium tanks on an EVA. It could possibly be accomplished w/ the Canadarm, not requiring an EVA, but certainly specialized equipment & a high pressure helium tank. Anything can be accomplished on orbit - it just requires money. Boeing might be able to design that, maybe. However, we both know Boeing won't get out of their own way unless they are getting well paid to do so. Boeing: "Sure, if it's a cost plus contract." |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:25:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boeing might be able to design that, maybe. However, we both know Boeing won't get out of their own way unless they are getting well paid to do so. Boeing: "Sure, if it's a cost plus contract." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Only partially serious - helium isn't the reason it's still up there. I know it's velocity around a gravitational body, but it's fun to throw a bone to the flat earthers every once & a while. Boeing could design & build a helium replenishment kit, send it up on a crewed or cargo trip, and replenish the helium tanks on an EVA. It could possibly be accomplished w/ the Canadarm, not requiring an EVA, but certainly specialized equipment & a high pressure helium tank. Anything can be accomplished on orbit - it just requires money. Boeing might be able to design that, maybe. However, we both know Boeing won't get out of their own way unless they are getting well paid to do so. Boeing: "Sure, if it's a cost plus contract." I am in no way implying it's going to happen. I am saying the technology exists as in that such a device could be built w/ current technology. Same as my EVA rescue scenario. Could it be done with existing technology? Sure. Is anyone going to plan out that scenario? Not until it becomes obvious that Stayliner can't make the retro burn w/ two astronauts on board running out of oxygen, and then it's how fast can SpaceX get up there and hope Stayliner's not stuck in a spin. I'm hoping at this point that the two Boeing astronauts become part of the full time krewe of the ISS, and come home months later on Dragon. I think that will spell the end of Boeing Space. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:33:04 PM EST
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As I've said before. Boeing Space is much more than Starliner. They are a major contractor on SLS, they also built the X-37B and they make sattelites.
Could be the end of them hauling live cargo. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:50:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I've said before. Boeing Space is much more than Starliner. They are a major contractor on SLS, they also built the X-37B and they make sattelites. Could be the end of them hauling live cargo. SLS is a giant hunk of Congressionally mandated waste of taxpayers' money shit. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 9:56:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SLS is a giant hunk of Congressionally mandated waste of taxpayers' money shit. And a recent investigation turned up massive quality control problems. But that doesn't mean it's going away. |
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Posted: 8/22/2024 10:00:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SLS is a giant hunk of Congressionally mandated waste of taxpayers' money shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I've said before. Boeing Space is much more than Starliner. They are a major contractor on SLS, they also built the X-37B and they make sattelites. Could be the end of them hauling live cargo. SLS is a giant hunk of Congressionally mandated waste of taxpayers' money shit. I have afeeling we don't know about the shit going on with x37 only because it is classified |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 2:04:25 PM EST
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:14:49 PM EST
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:18:31 PM EST
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LIVE NOW! They are taking SpaceX ride home in February. Here is what NASA said: Boeing is great, NASA is great, safety first and always but we still launched Stayliner despite the leaks we knew existed.
Bill Nelson, retire now. The rest of these assholes need to be arrested. ETA: LOL at one commenter who said this is the Kerbal Space Program engineering. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:29:35 PM EST
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Free fireworks show next month.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:32:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sweet, this will they, won't they shtick was getting really tired. Maximum humiliation for Boeing. 
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:44:41 PM EST
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Hope they have enough toilet paper!
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:44:49 PM EST
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NBC News: Will they launch on Boeing Starliner again? Bill Nelson: 100%. Yes 100% will go again on Starliner.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 12:56:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NBC News: Will they launch on Boeing Starliner again? Bill Nelson: 100%. Yes 100% will go again on Starliner. It’s something Boeing could maybe fix with a few billion more cost-plus dollars. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 1:46:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s something Boeing could maybe fix with a few billion more cost-plus dollars. Nelson essentially said that when he elaborated on the decisions. What a clown. He flew up there and yet here he is making indefensible statements and decisions about other souls. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:06:21 PM EST
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You can't make this stuff up...
Steve Stich, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, said Starliner is a very capable spacecraft and, ultimately, the decision came down to needing a higher level of certainty to perform a crewed return. 
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:12:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't make this stuff up... Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't make this stuff up... Steve Stich, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, said Starliner is a very capable spacecraft and, ultimately, the decision came down to needing a higher level of certainty to perform a crewed return. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:27:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't make this stuff up... Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't make this stuff up... Steve Stich, manager of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, said Starliner is a very capable spacecraft and, ultimately, the decision came down to needing a higher level of certainty to perform a crewed return. Textbook example of an unwieldy corporate system. Nothing is ever anyone's fault and everything is peachy keen until you run out of other people's money and/or a mongrel horde burns everything down. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:28:26 PM EST
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Man, Boeing really screwed the pooch didnt they..
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:31:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Free fireworks show next month.
My understanding is that if something goes wrong with the Starliner craft when it tries to come back to earth and it goes tits up Boeing has to eat the loss (a billion at least). This should pretty much put Boeing out of the space business IF NASA was smart (we know they aren't). |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:34:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you go without long enough they all start look good. Toward the end of Basic training I was starting to notice that those old black women working the in chow hall had some big ole titties. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks man. Now That's stuck in my mind's eye.  Gross. That’s why de ole lady put Saltpeter in yo food. …keep yo grubby mits offn dem big black tittays!
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:35:58 PM EST
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Time to short BA?
More? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 2:46:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryMusk is getting a team together.  Armageddon Scene - Getting the Crew Together Kharn |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 4:05:05 PM EST
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Let's hope they can manage to undock that monstrosity without damaging the station. What a shit show!
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:31:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet, this will they, won't they shtick was getting really tired. Maximum humiliation for Boeing. You usually have to pay extra for that in Vegas.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:37:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding is that if something goes wrong with the Starliner craft when it tries to come back to earth and it goes tits up Boeing has to eat the loss (a billion at least). This should pretty much put Boeing out of the space business IF NASA was smart (we know they aren't). Or they lose control of it while undocking and it hits the station resulting in the death of everyone aboard the ISS. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:38:24 PM EST
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Major Toms?
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:48:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Major Toms? Take your protein pills and put your helmet on. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:49:42 PM EST
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Musk should name the mission to pick up Butch and Sundance "Rescue One".
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Posted: 8/24/2024 6:52:37 PM EST
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I really don't understand how the lack of confidence in it to safely return the astronauts due to possible loss of control doesn't also mean loss of confidence in ability to safely undock from the ISS.
Is there some specific technical reason they're reasonably certain they can safely undock but not safely return the capsule to earth once undocked? |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:04:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Musk should name the mission to pick up Butch and Sundance "Rescue One". I'd settle for Thunderbird 3. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:34:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Musk should name the mission to pick up Butch and Sundance "Rescue One".  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:52:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really don't understand how the lack of confidence in it to safely return the astronauts due to possible loss of control doesn't also mean loss of confidence in ability to safely undock from the ISS. Is there some specific technical reason they're reasonably certain they can safely undock but not safely return the capsule to earth once undocked? Heat buildup in the thrust doghouses negatively impacts the teflon in the valves, resulting in abnormal results & shutting down the thruster. So, they can get it to back away from the ISS - but they're not fully confident they can get it in the correct orientation for the retro burn. Not a real problem to get IT home, as it'll come home eventually regardless of retro burn or not, but kinda an issue if you have a krewe onboard needing pesky consumables like oxygen. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 8:57:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really don't understand how the lack of confidence in it to safely return the astronauts due to possible loss of control doesn't also mean loss of confidence in ability to safely undock from the ISS. Is there some specific technical reason they're reasonably certain they can safely undock but not safely return the capsule to earth once undocked? It's about exposure and putting the mission under a microscope, plus there's no shortage of risk averseness at NASA, and probably in the Boeing CEO office. |
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:00:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Heat buildup in the thrust doghouses negatively impacts the teflon in the valves, resulting in abnormal results & shutting down the thruster. So, they can get it to back away from the ISS - but they're not fully confident they can get it in the correct orientation for the retro burn. Not a real problem to get IT home, as it'll come home eventually regardless of retro burn or not, but kinda an issue if you have a krewe onboard needing pesky consumables like oxygen. Got it, thanks. In that case, undock that piece of shit and dump it in the pacific ocean.
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Posted: 8/24/2024 9:09:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got it, thanks. In that case, undock that piece of shit and dump it in the pacific ocean. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Heat buildup in the thrust doghouses negatively impacts the teflon in the valves, resulting in abnormal results & shutting down the thruster. So, they can get it to back away from the ISS - but they're not fully confident they can get it in the correct orientation for the retro burn. Not a real problem to get IT home, as it'll come home eventually regardless of retro burn or not, but kinda an issue if you have a krewe onboard needing pesky consumables like oxygen. Got it, thanks. In that case, undock that piece of shit and dump it in the pacific ocean. I mean, it could land autonomously on your roof...
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:57:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's something Boeing could maybe fix with a few billion more cost-plus dollars. Yea, Boeing fucked up and badly because their engineers are apparently incapable of basic engineering tasks. |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:57:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nelson essentially said that when he elaborated on the decisions. What a clown. He flew up there and yet here he is making indefensible statements and decisions about other souls.  |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 12:58:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't make this stuff up... |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:00:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really don't understand how the lack of confidence in it to safely return the astronauts due to possible loss of control doesn't also mean loss of confidence in ability to safely undock from the ISS. Is there some specific technical reason they're reasonably certain they can safely undock but not safely return the capsule to earth once undocked? |
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:05:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI’d hang out with any and all of those folks. |
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