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Posted: 5/16/2024 7:21:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: greyninja]

Can The U.S. Afford Its Military Aid Promises?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:33:12 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd rather see that money stay here, but what the hell do I know....
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:34:28 PM EDT
[#2]
How about we cut domestic spending and tell our "allies" to handle their own shit for once.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:34:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Fuck you, pay me.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:36:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:36:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PrincipsPistol] [#5]
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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No shit. Exactly this.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:38:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Of course we do.

Meanwhile the legislative branche’s coffers continue to bloat & burst at the seems.

Not to mention that of the military industrial complex.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:38:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:39:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:40:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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Bingo
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:41:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jackslack] [#10]
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:41:56 PM EDT
[#11]
How about we just make hard cuts.....to spending and income tax
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:42:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:44:23 PM EDT
[#13]
UKR Bros have assured me that won't be necessary.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:44:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Social Security, Medicare, and debt service make up most of the budget.  Good luck cutting those.

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:48:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Doesn't matter.

We're over the cliff on our way down now.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:50:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PrincipsPistol:



No shit. Exactly this.
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Originally Posted By PrincipsPistol:
Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
How about we cut domestic spending and tell our "allies" to handle their own shit for once.



No shit. Exactly this.

But.....but.....we have a moral DUTY!!!

Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:54:03 PM EDT
[#17]
Cut social security and medicare and give Israel whatever they want, no strings attached.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:54:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Need4Guns:
Doesn't matter.

We're over the cliff on our way down now.
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:57:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MattR] [#19]
Domestic spending is out of control. Of course we need to cut it.

Our military presence across the world is what keeps the US Dollar at its current (albeit lower) value. Whether we like it or not, globalism is the current norm...and fiat currency isn't any more valuable than the government's legitimacy. What would happen if we allowed Iran to somehow prevent shipping through the Persian gulf? Palestine or Syria to block the Suez? As soon as the US is seen as being unable to assert power, the trust in the dollar falls. With the threat of BRICS and the Russian/Chinese attempt to back their currency with gold, we need to instill confidence in the dollar.

While I'm not advocating a ton of our budget being sent in pallets to other countries...global powers, whether the US, England, the Romans, etc had to spend a large percentage of resources in foreign affairs to protect their "power"
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:59:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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That would be nice . America first assholes . Fuck everyone else.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 7:59:41 PM EDT
[#21]
tRUe pAtTrIotS sUPpOrT uKrAyNe sEnD mUnNIEs!
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:00:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PatriotAr15] [#22]
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles:
Cut social security and medicare and give Israel whatever they want, no strings attached.
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This needs that sweating guy/two button meme.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:00:56 PM EDT
[#23]
End welfare and section 8 housing first
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:02:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sporter:
tRUe pAtTrIotS sUPpOrT uKrAyNe sEnD mUnNIEs!
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:04:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PatriotAr15:
This needs that sweating guy/two button meme.
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Either button supports the popcorn industrial complex.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:07:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:08:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MattR:
Domestic spending is out of control. Of course we need to cut it.

Our military presence across the world is what keeps the US Dollar at its current (albeit lower) value. Whether we like it or not, globalism is the current norm...and fiat currency isn't any more valuable than the government's legitimacy. What would happen if we allowed Iran to somehow prevent shipping through the Persian gulf? Palestine or Syria to block the Suez?

While I'm not advocating a ton of our budget being sent in pallets to other countries...global powers, whether the US, England, the Romans, etc had to spend a large percentage of resources in foreign affairs to protect their "power"
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I would argue that has had the opposite of the desired effect:  The dollar being the international currency has enabled our politicians to abandon all sense of fiscal discipline and spend money like there's no tomorrow because, they assume, the Saudis and the Chinese will forever suck it up and buy our debt.

What's happening now is the rest of the world is starting to say "fuck that" and more and more are refusing to subsidize us or our irresponsible spending.

Oh, and don't look now but the Houthis have done exactly what you fear:  They have essentially blocked the Suez Canal to our commerce.  Our response was to send a carrier strike force which lobbed a few missiles and launched some desultory air strikes, none of which changed the situation on the ground, all while the captain posted pics on Twitter of sailors eating cookies in his chair on the bridge.

Given our performance in the Red Sea, Iran could easily block the Strait of Hormuz tomorrow and short of using nukes we would be powerless to stop them -- regardless of how much we have spent on weapons and military aid.

Things that can't go on forever, won't go on forever.  Our debt bomb is going to explode someday, and unless we start making hard decisions now it will be worse for everyone down the road.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:10:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:10:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:24:17 PM EDT
[#31]
SPNI
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:38:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles:
Cut social security and medicare and give Israel whatever they want, no strings attached.
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Section 8, SNAP, Welfare, ALL illegal funding of ANY sort, utility payments, appliance freebies, all food stamps, all health care for welfare adults, all food/meals/ect for all adults, feed the kids at school ONLY. Cut all grants to poors, colleges, classes and all related programs, make a hard cut off of ALL benefits for non working adults. Make being a fatso not a disability, nor any health related issues due to being a fatso, alki, smoker. Tell all people on programs ''here is a job, take it or get the F out of any bldg/apt/house subsidized by govt.

Then don't give europe a damn dime and tell them THEY are also bums and deadbeats, they get nothing more. Say adios to NATO, close our borders tighter then a rich mans wallet with the savings.Deport every illegal no matter their sob story or age.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 8:40:33 PM EDT
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Thing is, we're going to make the hard cuts eventually anyway. Our current fiscal path is not only unsustainable but accelerating. There will come a point where just the interest on the debt will exceed all Federal revenues and then we become Zimbabwe.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:28:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


Section 8, SNAP, Welfare, ALL illegal funding of ANY sort, utility payments, appliance freebies, all food stamps, all health care for welfare adults, all food/meals/ect for all adults, feed the kids at school ONLY. Cut all grants to poors, colleges, classes and all related programs, make a hard cut off of ALL benefits for non working adults. Make being a fatso not a disability, nor any health related issues due to being a fatso, alki, smoker. Tell all people on programs ''here is a job, take it or get the F out of any bldg/apt/house subsidized by govt.

Then don't give europe a damn dime and tell them THEY are also bums and deadbeats, they get nothing more. Say adios to NATO, close our borders tighter then a rich mans wallet with the savings.Deport every illegal no matter their sob story or age.
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Hell yeah, that frees up so many Shekels!

Look at Negev chan, look how happy she is!

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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:29:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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As much as this would be nice in fairy tale land in the real world it will be ugly.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:35:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Arty8:
Fuck you, pay me.
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This x100
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:40:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:41:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
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This.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:43:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By staringback05:
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We need to cut the deep state first.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:45:11 PM EDT
[#40]
Cut it all
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:46:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: perfectsilence] [#41]
Lol why. It’s not like when your grocery bill goes up so you have to cut back elsewhere to come out even. We already can’t “afford” the whole budget and haven’t been able to for years, and the rest of the world will have to either not call us on our debt or bail us out eventually anyways, so why not just keep spending?

Free everything for everyone. Free medical care for the 300 pound 96 year olds, free taxidermy services for dead Russians for the ukebros, free Putin fleshlights for the other guys, free menorahs and prayer rugs and platinum memberships for GDers. Why not!
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:46:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By greyninja:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrhwfA4uUg
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And this is how Empires die, via bankruptcy.

War Hawks, Neo Cons, and America Lasters will defend this.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:48:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CastleBravo91:

But.....but.....we have a moral DUTY!!!

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Nope, if the Ukribros feel so deeply they can reach into their wallets. But they don’t.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:49:49 PM EDT
[#44]
so you say we can't add 1 trillion to the deficit every 100 days?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:50:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MattR:
Domestic spending is out of control. Of course we need to cut it.

Our military presence across the world is what keeps the US Dollar at its current (albeit lower) value. Whether we like it or not, globalism is the current norm...and fiat currency isn't any more valuable than the government's legitimacy. What would happen if we allowed Iran to somehow prevent shipping through the Persian gulf? Palestine or Syria to block the Suez? As soon as the US is seen as being unable to assert power, the trust in the dollar falls. With the threat of BRICS and the Russian/Chinese attempt to back their currency with gold, we need to instill confidence in the dollar.

While I'm not advocating a ton of our budget being sent in pallets to other countries...global powers, whether the US, England, the Romans, etc had to spend a large percentage of resources in foreign affairs to protect their "power"
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And how did it end for England or Rome? Not very fucking well.

Globalization is a self terminating system, why defend it? It’s killing us.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:51:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By atavistic:
UKR Bros have assured me that won't be necessary.
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It's old outdated obsolete money that we were going to update anyway
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:51:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever:
I'd rather see that money stay here, but what the hell do I know....
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If we did that, then how would federal government donors and NGOs make money?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:52:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By klinc:


As much as this would be nice in fairy tale land in the real world it will be ugly.
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When was it ever not? “Noes reality will reign horrible and supreme!”..yeah, your point?
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 10:56:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Palm] [#50]
How about we cut spending on Biden’s Border Jumpers. No financial support to any foreign national, even if President Biden see them as the future of the Democrat Party.  No social security, no unemployment, no rent assistance, no food or supplemental payments, no cellular phone service, and no tax payer support of any kind.
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