CNN, MSNOW and Politico banned from White House (Page 8 of 8)
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Originally Posted By AKARAV92: Oh great. State TV, just like Putin has. Originally Posted By AKARAV92: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-21_at_08-39-14__1__Th-3830604.JPG Oh great. State TV, just like Putin has. |
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Originally Posted By whiskey_bravo: Where in the constitution does it guarantee specific outlets from having direct access to the White House? It doesn't, except in the minds of liberal fascists. They believe that "free speech" includes the right to force others to not only listen to their propaganda, but also force others to endorse it. |
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Originally Posted By Kent: It doesn't, except in the minds of liberal fascists. They believe that "free speech" includes the right to force others to not only listen to their propaganda, but also force others to endorse it.  Press access is not “forcing others to listen.” The irony is that you are in this case endorsing the government’s “picking and choosing” of what “propaganda” they allow. THAT is something the Fascist would do. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Press access is not “forcing others to listen.” The irony is that you are in this case endorsing the government’s “picking and choosing” of what “propaganda” they allow. THAT is something the Fascist would do. So known and proven propaganda outlets have a *right* to white house access? Why can't I demand to be in that group? Or is that "different"? Yeah, no surprise there. |
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Originally Posted By Kent: So known and proven propaganda outlets have a *right* to white house access? Why can't I demand to be in that group? Or is that "different"? Yeah, no surprise there. Yes, they do. This has been explained here several times and addressed by case law. They don’t even have to be honest. You can demand to be in the group. You’d probably get denied on logistical and available space grounds. What they can’t do if you already have access, is revoke it because they don’t like your reporting. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Press access is not “forcing others to listen.” The irony is that you are in this case endorsing the government’s “picking and choosing” of what “propaganda” they allow. THAT is something the Fascist would do. CNN and MSN have a long history of shoddy "journalism" or fabricating or going along with hoaxes where they've defamed people, gotten sued, and had paid out. They literally are the definition of propaganda. |
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"The Oval Office, Trump continued in his Truth Social post, “should be treated with Decorum, Respect, and Dignity, not defiled by Third Rate Clowns, who purposefully distort, twist, and degrade with everything they write or publish.” --- And yet he continues to occupy it. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: CNN and MSN have a long history of shoddy "journalism" or fabricating or going along with hoaxes where they've defamed people, gotten sued, and had paid out. They literally are the definition of propaganda. Yes. I am in agreement about shoddy/hack journalism. But “shoddy journalism” isn’t the standard for press access under the first amendment. Again. Settled case law. The executive branch cannot arbitrarily revoke press access on the basis of the content or their own perspective of the coverage. The court ordered Acosta’s credentials returned, and it will in this case too. It’s cut and dry. It’s sort of like trans people getting guns. You might not like it, but they’ve got the right to keep and bear arms just as much as you do. |
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Watching to see how this plays out. I certainly hope that CNN, MSNOW and Politico get their noses rubbed into it even if it takes a series of appeals. In the meantime, I don't particularly care that my tax money is being spent to make those three spend money to fight it. FAFO. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Yes. I am in agreement about shoddy/hack journalism. But “shoddy journalism” isn’t the standard for press access under the first amendment. Again. Settled case law. The executive branch cannot arbitrarily revoke press access on the basis of the content or their own perspective of the coverage. The court ordered Acosta’s credentials returned, and it will in this case too. It’s cut and dry. It’s sort of like trans people getting guns. You might not like it, but they’ve got the right to keep and bear arms just as much as you do. Here's another thing to consider, networks that have licenses can't engage in outright partisan coverage, per the rules for their FCC licenses. It's been shown, over a decade, that they readily engage and conspire with the left in order to do this. Pushing hoaxes and outright fake news stories on a president because of their political allegiance is not journalism. That boxes out journalists who take their job seriously. The latter journalists are still able to have access. That's not a violation of the first amendment. Congress (or Trump) has passed no laws restricting their reach. These networks affected can still broadcast, still talk about what they want, they just don't have access to a single, tiny area, that many other news organizations have access to, including foreign ones. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: Here's another thing to consider, networks that have licenses can't engage in outright partisan coverage, per the rules for their FCC licenses. It's been shown, over a decade, that they readily engage and conspire with the left in order to do this. Pushing hoaxes and outright fake news stories on a president because of their political allegiance is not journalism. That boxes out journalists who take their job seriously. The latter journalists are still able to have access. That's not a violation of the first amendment. Congress (or Trump) has passed no laws restricting their reach. These networks affected can still broadcast, still talk about what they want, they just don't have access to a single, tiny area, that many other news organizations have access to, including foreign ones. They aren’t broadcast networks. They are cable/digital. FCC doesn’t license cable networks, they license radio and over the air TV. FCC has no jurisdiction. FCC also axed the fairness doctrine in the 80s. Not that it applies here anyways. As to your last argument that stripping access isn’t stepping on their rights because they can broadcast elsewhere… case law says you’re wrong. Access is protected. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: CNN and MSN have a long history of shoddy "journalism" or fabricating or going along with hoaxes where they've defamed people, gotten sued, and had paid out. They literally are the definition of propaganda. And FOX is worse than both of them. So, it's about the coverage and not the quality of the reporting. |
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Originally Posted By Ursus_Americanus: And FOX is worse than both of them. So, it's about the coverage and not the quality of the reporting. Originally Posted By Ursus_Americanus: Originally Posted By Federov: CNN and MSN have a long history of shoddy "journalism" or fabricating or going along with hoaxes where they've defamed people, gotten sued, and had paid out. They literally are the definition of propaganda. And FOX is worse than both of them. So, it's about the coverage and not the quality of the reporting. |
CNN Sues Trump For Violating Its First Amendment Right To Fabricate News  WASHINGTON, D.C. In the latest wave of legal turmoil enveloping the nation's capital, cable network CNN sued the Trump administration for allegedly violating its First Amendment rights to fabricate the news. CNN, MSNOW, and Politico expressed outrage after President Donald Trump expelled the outlets from the White House, arguing that his administration was denying them their constitutional rights to make things up and report them as facts. "He has no right to keep us from making things up," said CNN personality Kaitlan Collins. "It is the right and indeed the duty of major news outlets in the United States to carefully fabricate false narratives to undermine Trump's leadership and foment anger and fear among the populace. How are we supposed to erode confidence in the administration if we're not allowed to spread fake news? Our rights are being violated." |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Press access is not “forcing others to listen.” The irony is that you are in this case endorsing the government’s “picking and choosing” of what “propaganda” they allow. THAT is something the Fascist would do. No one is telling the press what to publish and since the press conferences are streamed on Cspan they are accessible by the news organizations. This is not fascism or censorship. Unlike the Biden admin that had social media censor posts of individuals. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: No one is telling the press what to publish and since the press conferences are streamed on Cspan they are accessible by the news organizations. This is not fascism or censorship. Unlike the Biden admin that had social media censor posts of individuals. For fucks sake Being able to watch a broadcast is not equivalent to press access. The gymnastics going on to justify this are amazing  |
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Originally Posted By Krater: "The Oval Office, Trump continued in his Truth Social post, "should be treated with Decorum, Respect, and Dignity, not defiled by Third Rate Clowns, who purposefully distort, twist, and degrade with everything they write or publish." --- And yet he continues to occupy it. Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Vance basically admitted that in the video posted. He said why should the President let in news agencies when the majority of their reporting is unfavorable of him. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: Here's another thing to consider, networks that have licenses can't engage in outright partisan coverage, per the rules for their FCC licenses. It's been shown, over a decade, that they readily engage and conspire with the left in order to do this. Pushing hoaxes and outright fake news stories on a president because of their political allegiance is not journalism. That boxes out journalists who take their job seriously. The latter journalists are still able to have access. That's not a violation of the first amendment. Congress (or Trump) has passed no laws restricting their reach. These networks affected can still broadcast, still talk about what they want, they just don't have access to a single, tiny area, that many other news organizations have access to, including foreign ones. We should be careful claiming that media you don’t like “isn’t journalism and thus isn’t protected” as well. |
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How has he denied the news media their First Amendment rights? They can still post whatever they want, they just can't do it from the White House briefings room. That is a privilege, not a "right". And to further expand on that, why do they feel they deserve that privilege over other news agencies that aren't allowed admission? |
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These same "principled" journalists would fight to get into an Iranian government news conference -- you know, that government that is murdering their own citizens. But that's different... right? I was hoping FOX had learnt their lesson from the last time they swung Left. Apparently not. To Hell with the lot of them. Better no news at all than slanted propaganda dressed up as 'news'. |
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ARFCOM should petition to have a spot in the news briefing room, we have a few members with press creds. First Amendment, right(s) right? If they deny us we should sue for First Amendment infringement according to those d you claiming CNN and others are being denied. |
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