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Yesterday 11:33:18 PM EDT
SHTF Bugout Secrets From One of America’s Most Infamous Manhunts??


Interesting watch about Rudolph’s evasion tactics. It made me wonder though, would he be able to have gotten away as easily and for as long in today’s world vs the more limited scope of technology available then?
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Yesterday 11:38:17 PM EDT
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Didn't the locals help him?

Given recent history like that Army guy who shot up the bar and then fled to the woods and was caught shortly afterwards, it seems very difficult to evade authorities and modern technology now.
Yesterday 11:39:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: el_hombre][Edited] [#2]
Not without a lot of help.  They'd have thermal drones hunting his ass 24/7
We should have shotguns for this
Yesterday 11:45:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By JMclane1204:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh03SCxpx60

Interesting watch about Rudolph’s evasion tactics. It made me wonder though, would he be able to have gotten away as easily and for as long in today’s world vs the more limited scope of technology available then?
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I want to say no. But wasn't there a couple recently in the past 5 years or so that stayed "hidden " for a good amount of time? And I think lack of discipline and preparation got them. Not technology
Yesterday 11:47:31 PM EDT
[#4]
I think it just continually gets more difficult to stay hidden. The amount of data collected every day is insane, and the ability for AI algorithms to process it is even more insane.

Everything from credit card records, to cell phone positions, to flock cameras to the ability to search through people's past history/connections and delve into this people's info.
Today 12:22:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By el_hombre:
Not without a lot of help.  They'd have thermal drones hunting his ass 24/7
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This.  Even with help, Ring cameras, drones flown by hobbyists and God knows what else makes disappearing and staying disappeared much more difficult if not impossible.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 12:42:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lou_Daks][Edited] [#6]
There are only two ways to do it:

Be TOTALLY self sufficient in the wilderness with zero contact in an area far from the crime scene

or

Blend in in a BIG city.  Remember Whitey Bulger?  Gone for 16 years.  Like that.
Today 1:09:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GNJ][Edited] [#7]
If he didn't carry around a cellphone, wore a woke mask under a hoodie with a ball cap and sunglasses he'd have a shot.
ETA: Interestingly enough, Rudolph's lawyer was a Jewish guy.
Also, Rudolph's own brother cut off his own hand with a saw on video to send a message to the FBI.
Today 2:23:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:

This.  Even with help, Ring cameras, drones flown by hobbyists and God knows what else makes disappearing and staying disappeared much more difficult if not impossible.
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Probably not in the continental US, maybe Alaska or Northern Canada, there is still a lot of nothing and places humans have never treked.
Today 2:51:47 AM EDT
[#9]
Read “the stranger in the woods”. A man named Christopher Knight lived hidden in the Maine woods for 27 years, finally getting caught in 2013. A very interesting read.
Today 5:13:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sirveaux][Edited] [#10]
Weather Underground terrorists just hung out with their super rich and politically powerful friends and got jobs in academia.

Eric Rudolph chose the wrong ideology if he wanted to get away with it.
Today 5:21:40 AM EDT
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If he had the skills to create an online history and masquerade as someone else in a big city he might.


Look at all the shitty illegals who steal identities and live  under the radar, even getting government benefits.
Today 5:44:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PacNW5:
Didn't the locals help him?

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Apparently not much.  He was caught dumpster diving and said he had many bouts of sickness from bad food he scavenged.

The dude's crusade was legit, but his actions were misaimed.
I love a good double entendre.
Today 5:55:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zap_Rowsdower][Edited] [#13]
ER  was in hiding from 1998 to 2003.   Trail cameras existed but were not common. This was the era when they were going from 35mm to digital.

Now a days everyone runs cameras and cellular versions make up the majority that are sold.   Someone like ER would have to hide in a extremely remote area to go undetected.   The problem is that to make it long term you would need to steal to survive and that would mean living on the edge of civillation where cell service would likely exist and  so would hunters cameras uploading instant pics.   You would need help to hide out indefinitely.  No way you could do it on your own.
Today 6:01:31 AM EDT
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No way he could have made it 5 years on the run with today's tech unless sympathizers took him in and fed and hid him.
Political correctness is a devious weapon designed to silence those whose arguments cannot be refuted.

Embracing the "Progressive" American democratic party is akin to volunteering your time to erect the gallows you will one day swing from.
Today 6:18:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By el_hombre:
Not without a lot of help.  They'd have thermal drones hunting his ass 24/7
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Not to say I agree but they'd have done that regardless. Police are now more technologically advanced than I was in Afghanistan. It's a little frightening.
Today 6:24:39 AM EDT
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I moved last year and had to whittle down four bookshelves into two. I went through my collection of old “Paladin Press” books and flipped through a couple regarding how to change or conceal your identity. The information was maybe still relevant 30 years ago but was only worth a chuckle, today. I gave them to an old friend who was as equally amused but had more shelf space.

I think one of the BIG takeaways from the Eric Rudolph pursuit is just how miserable the experience was for him. When he was captured, he was rummaging through dumpsters for food. He made it five years on the run but I’m not sure many modern Americans would be able to tolerate the survivalist lifestyle for very long.
Life is short. If you are waiting for “someday”, it’s here!
Today 6:24:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nowgrn4:
No way he could have made it 5 years on the run with today's tech unless sympathizers took him in and fed and hid him.
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Yeah, do you know how bin laden lives his last few years? It's possible, but other than the harem of hoes,  is it really a  life worth living? Yeah could get practically anything he wanted, but never leave a building that size. Hotel California slowly starts playing.
Today 6:46:14 AM EDT
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I was 15 when he was caught and I remember my dad watching the news story on it when it aired. My dad thought he had long been dead succumbing to the elements or he had left the country.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Today 6:52:01 AM EDT
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We spent a week in Murphy NC while Rudolph was on the run.  It was obvious how much support he had in the community.   Quite a few stores and sidewalk displays were selling t-shirts, hats and coffee mugs that said something like “I support Eric Rudolph”.  I don’t know if he could evade authorities today as well as he did then, but I think community support was a huge factor in that manhunt.
Today 7:04:39 AM EDT
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You can’t get away with shit anymore. Most people aren’t brought to justice because of lazy police work.
Today 10:21:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Northcountry06:
We spent a week in Murphy NC while Rudolph was on the run.  It was obvious how much support he had in the community.   Quite a few stores and sidewalk displays were selling t-shirts, hats and coffee mugs that said something like “I support Eric Rudolph”.  I don’t know if he could evade authorities today as well as he did then, but I think community support was a huge factor in that manhunt.
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The FBI always thought he was getting support from some in the local community.

When they located his hide, the FBI actually collected all his feces from his pit to measure how much was in there. I never heard the result of this analysis on whether it amounted to five years worth of shit or less.

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