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Posted: 12/3/2023 4:56:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know for me (and i'm in a state that's not in play   ), I'm not sitting home.The second the left in DC can do it, IMHO they want amnesty, add DC and Puerto Rico as states, add SCOTUS judges, and go to a popular vote. And that's game over for us as a political movement (until the GOP figures out that the millions of new hispanic voters are likely deeply religious and not down with the TQAAIP+ messaging in schools  )I feel they might very well take that ^ road if they get a chance. They feel entitled to rule, they don't like dissent, and are willing to censor stories they don't like or crush platforms (parler) they don't like (and later Twitter). Judges were only good when it was Gay Marriage decisions and Hawaii Judge. Now that we have cases going our way, they cannnnnot cope. A Trump victory, to me is a "symbolism" vote, DeSantis is a policy vote, with an 8 year upside if it works. I just think he'd do a better job vs Trump's second turn I think Haley would basically be a GOPe candidate, it would look like the UK's "conservative" governing. The left keeps winning, only "slower" Vivek I think needs to run for and win a congressional race, serve for a bit so we know who he is, before he runs for POTUS. I just like known-quantity candidates for that office That's a perfect way to put it, I agree with all of the aforementioned and we may even be in the same state. Despite the fact I usually vote a straight R ticket I am very well aware that my vote has never counted (both figuratively and quite possibly literally) for anything in the state of WA A couple years ago I vividly remember seeing DeSantis at a press conference (can't recall the issue) but I remember thinking to myself that this guy may be the next President of the United States. Unfortunately when he started campaigning it was apparent (IMHO) that's he's a little green on the national stage. If he had the same public speaking skills Vivek does then I think right now he'd be neck and neck with Trump. I love what I hear from a policy standpoint (and he's getting better!) but he's just not polished and often times he seems to be awkwardly stumbling from talking point to talking point. I have serious doubts if Trump can win a national election, but I do see him taking the R nod. I supported him in 16 and 20 and I'll vote for him again. What Trump did with the SCJ bought this nation some much needed time we wouldn't have had otherwise. That was manifest destiny shit. Niki Haley is just garbage. She's the milk toast pick of our corporate overlords who are agnostic to political party and ideology. She'd be better than Biden but not by much. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:11:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you know anybody who is 83? What do you trust them to be able to do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's a fair way to look at it! I know there is a lot of folks who are firmly entrenched on one candidate or another, but if Ron did end up getting the GOP nod it's not a situation where I'd have to hold my nose to vote for him. I'm still a Trump voter for the time being, but I'd be happy to pull the lever for DeSantis. I think I'm one of the few here who is just happy we have a bunch of decent candidates on the bench. I don't trust Vivek, but I also agree with like 90% of the stuff he says Do you know anybody who is 83? What do you trust them to be able to do? Yes. (pretty sure he is 86 this year.) And anything he set his mind to. After getting a hip replaced at 75, he remarked that he felt like he was 50 again and had a few more years of work left in him. He retired from forestry work at 81.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:20:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a perfect way to put it, I agree with all of the aforementioned and we may even be in the same state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know for me (and i'm in a state that's not in play ), I'm not sitting home.The second the left in DC can do it, IMHO they want amnesty, add DC and Puerto Rico as states, add SCOTUS judges, and go to a popular vote. And that's game over for us as a political movement (until the GOP figures out that the millions of new hispanic voters are likely deeply religious and not down with the TQAAIP+ messaging in schools )I feel they might very well take that ^ road if they get a chance. They feel entitled to rule, they don't like dissent, and are willing to censor stories they don't like or crush platforms (parler) they don't like (and later Twitter). Judges were only good when it was Gay Marriage decisions and Hawaii Judge. Now that we have cases going our way, they cannnnnot cope. A Trump victory, to me is a "symbolism" vote, DeSantis is a policy vote, with an 8 year upside if it works. I just think he'd do a better job vs Trump's second turn I think Haley would basically be a GOPe candidate, it would look like the UK's "conservative" governing. The left keeps winning, only "slower" Vivek I think needs to run for and win a congressional race, serve for a bit so we know who he is, before he runs for POTUS. I just like known-quantity candidates for that office That's a perfect way to put it, I agree with all of the aforementioned and we may even be in the same state. People don't think commie-states be like it is, but it do Despite the fact I usually vote a straight R ticket I am very well aware that my vote has never counted (both figuratively and quite possibly literally) for anything in the state of WA I think blue state Rs should turn out so we don't have to hear about the "BUT MUH POPULAR VOTE REEEEE" meme A couple years ago I vividly remember seeing DeSantis at a press conference (can't recall the issue) but I remember thinking to myself that this guy may be the next President of the United States. Unfortunately when he started campaigning it was apparent (IMHO) that's he's a little green on the national stage. If he had the same public speaking skills Vivek does then I think right now he'd be neck and neck with Trump. I love what I hear from a policy standpoint (and he's getting better!) but he's just not polished and often times he seems to be awkwardly stumbling from talking point to talking point. IMHO the internals are tighter than the media-run national polls. IIRC the polls that have Trump doing the best, are the same ones that in October of the last 2 cycles, fueled the "TRUMP IS LOSING BY DOUBLE DIGITS!" media-memes. I sat there, turned to my leftie friends and said, "Do you REALLY BELIEVE Biden is going to beat Trump by greater than an FDR-in-WW2 margin? Because that's what this poll says?" No. Those firms are willing to "put up possibly incorrect polls", aren't they. And I believe they're doing it again, er, I mean, "I believe they're simply wrong", again. If the internals weren't tighter, Trump wouldn't have been attacking DeSantis on Truth social more than Biden, and basically every day, several times a day. I don't believe "RD IS SECRETLY WINNING NATIONALLY!!!!!" in the polls. I believe he's very competitive in Iowa, and that if/when the field narrows down, he's the 2nd choice of a lot of people, and not all of Trump's support is rock-solid for Trump. I'd say 70% of the voters for Trump are. But that say 20-30% aren't. A 51-49% RD margin is still a win, unless Haley hangs on and does "just well enough" to put Trump over the edge. I have serious doubts if Trump can win a national election, but I do see him taking the R nod. I supported him in 16 and 20 and I'll vote for him again. What Trump did with the SCJ bought this nation some much needed time we wouldn't have had otherwise. That was manifest destiny shit. IMHO Trump exposed "the game" in 2016 in a lot of ways. There were a lot of things I was thankful for - and some of the MAGA-agenda (middle class tax cuts + cheap energy = economic growth) that got proven. I ALSO believe RD is the best vessel for that agenda now. Niki Haley is just garbage. She's the milk toast pick of our corporate overlords who are agnostic to political party and ideology. She'd be better than Biden but not by much. I think this is where the Trump/Haley meme is starting from. "Oh okay, make Haley VP that'll fix it all!" *2 months in* "Haha oh wowww Trump's too old, 25th Amendment time lmao haha oh man who saw THAT coming haha" |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:29:10 PM EST
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Spoiler alert:
Trump is going to pick Vivek. They'll win next year. Trump will do amazing things as POTUS and the miserable NeverTrumps will bitch and moan while they find their next loser to latch onto. Also. DeSantis will never hold an elected office again after his time as Governor is up. Vivek will run and win in 2028. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:32:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. (pretty sure he is 86 this year.) And anything he set his mind to. After getting a hip replaced at 75, he remarked that he felt like he was 50 again and had a few more years of work left in him. He retired from forestry work at 81. Sorry man. I just have a really hard time taking any political opinion seriously that supports an octogenarian being elected to office. I wouldn’t trust somebody in their 9th decade of life to be a mailman. Hell, I wouldn’t even trust them driving the mail truck. Much less with the office of the president. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:34:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spoiler alert: Trump is going to pick Vivek. They'll win next year. Trump will do amazing things as POTUS and the miserable NeverTrumps will bitch and moan while they find their next loser to latch onto. Also. DeSantis will never hold an elected office again after his time as Governor is up. Vivek will run and win in 2028. Ok Umberto |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:42:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry man. I just have a really hard time taking any political opinion seriously that supports an octogenarian being elected to office. I wouldn’t trust somebody in their 9th decade of life to be a mailman. Hell, I wouldn’t even trust them driving the mail truck. Much less with the office of the president. Have you looked at the age of our politicians? Across all branches, not just the executive. I think most would agree with you (I know I do) in that our politicians are too fucking old. . . . But you having a "really hard time" taking that seriously doesn't change reality. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:53:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spoiler alert: Trump is going to pick Vivek. They'll win next year. Trump will do amazing things as POTUS and the miserable NeverTrumps will bitch and moan while they find their next loser to latch onto. Also. DeSantis will never hold an elected office again after his time as Governor is up. Vivek will run and win in 2028. I would say Vivek has certainly been auditioning for the part . |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:55:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would say Vivek has certainly been auditioning for the part . He's probably the only one that would take it, and I think it was his entire purpose of running |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 5:59:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would say Vivek has certainly been auditioning for the part . I agree. After the very first debate I said it in the larger thread that he seemed to be the only one noticeably campaigning for a VP slot Candidly, even though I don't really trust the guy, he'd make a pretty outstanding VP IMHO |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:04:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry man. I just have a really hard time taking any political opinion seriously that supports an octogenarian being elected to office. I wouldn’t trust somebody in their 9th decade of life to be a mailman. Hell, I wouldn’t even trust them driving the mail truck. Much less with the office of the president. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. (pretty sure he is 86 this year.) And anything he set his mind to. After getting a hip replaced at 75, he remarked that he felt like he was 50 again and had a few more years of work left in him. He retired from forestry work at 81. Sorry man. I just have a really hard time taking any political opinion seriously that supports an octogenarian being elected to office. I wouldn’t trust somebody in their 9th decade of life to be a mailman. Hell, I wouldn’t even trust them driving the mail truck. Much less with the office of the president. It's an edge case and he's really the only person I know past the age of 70 that I would consider competent enough, both physically and mentally to be in office. You asked a question, and I answered. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:04:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's probably the only one that would take it, and I think it was his entire purpose of running I strongly disagree on that but I guess we well see how this plays out . |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:07:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah, he could have paid cash easily with the returns on his personal stock portfolio he was getting, let alone having his parents' help. He didn't need the scholarship money, which would usually be for those that financially needed it to attend, which was my point about the "service above self". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:
"servant not a ruler"  Love it. Love the humility, hard work, a guy that's about doing the work - whose best selling point is the resume of things he got done when he had a chance, vs promises. It's funny, Vivek and I went to the same private high school (he was 2 years behind me). The motto of the school is "Men For Others", in other words, service above self. It was hammered into you there. Between his jobs as a teacher, a coach, a lawyer defending people's rights, and a Conservative minded legislator and executive working to protect the Constitutional rights of the people, DeSantis does a far better job living up to this motto than Vivek has ever remotely come close to (he had a stock portfolio his parents set up worth nearly $1M when he graduated yet still took college scholarship money), let alone Trump. Whoa no shit? Wow IIRC he made his fortune between finance and pharma, right?  Yeah. He made a few million in finance before getting a scholarship to law school - the scholarship being the only way he could afford law school - then got into pharma. Nah, he could have paid cash easily with the returns on his personal stock portfolio he was getting, let alone having his parents' help. He didn't need the scholarship money, which would usually be for those that financially needed it to attend, which was my point about the "service above self". Yeah, I was being facetious. One the things I point to when I want to demonstrate Ramaswamy is a liar is his statement about not being able to afford law school without the scholarship despite claiming income of over $3 million in the few years beforehand. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:08:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. After the very first debate I said it in the larger thread that he seemed to be the only one noticeably campaigning for a VP slot Candidly, even though I don't really trust the guy, he'd make a pretty outstanding VP IMHO That's because no one knows shit about this guy and he's a pretty slick talker . I mean everyone knows over half the shit that's said during a campaign never can or will materialize anyways . |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:09:11 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I strongly disagree on that but I guess we well see how this plays out . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's probably the only one that would take it, and I think it was his entire purpose of running I strongly disagree on that but I guess we well see how this plays out . Who else? DeSantis has said no very plainly (and would be ignorant to take it) , Haley doesn't have a chance i don't believe, I guess maybe there's some nobody that he might pick but noone with any sense or name recognition and hope for a future would accept |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:09:22 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you looked at the age of our politicians? Across all branches, not just the executive. I think most would agree with you (I know I do) in that our politicians are too fucking old. . . . But you having a "really hard time" taking that seriously doesn't change reality. Yeah, I’m with you. My sentiment certainly doesn’t extend only to Trump. Mandatory retirement age from the airlines applied to public office would suit me just fine. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:13:12 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I’m with you. My sentiment certainly doesn’t extend only to Trump. Mandatory retirement age from the airlines applied to public office would suit me just fine. 100% I mean it worked out in our favor but RBG literally died on the bench. Frail, old, and completely senile. . . . in one of the most important judicial positions in the world. I understand there are additional complexities surrounding SCJ, and the argument for having life tenure, but wow. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:14:47 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who else? DeSantis has said no very plainly (and would be ignorant to take it) , Haley doesn't have a chance i don't believe, I guess maybe there's some nobody that he might pick but noone with any sense or name recognition and hope for a future would accept When you were polling number 2 and you have a pacs raising 10's of millions of dollars you better say that . I posted my reasons before why I think he would accept the position and why Trump would offer it . I don't think I'm wrong on the reason but who knows . |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:18:29 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 100% I mean it worked out in our favor but RBG literally died on the bench. Frail, old, and completely senile. . . . in one of the most important judicial positions in the world. I understand there are additional complexities surrounding SCJ, and the argument for having life tenure, but wow. Feinstein too. But republicans are no better… And overall I think there are somewhere around 20 congress members 80 or older. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:19:04 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because no one knows shit about this guy and he's a pretty slick talker . I mean everyone knows over half the shit that's said during a campaign never can or will materialize anyways . I guess worst case scenario he's a slick talking, pump and dump, wall street pharma hustler? Probably not any worse than a mid-tier city lawyer taking office and then making their tens/hundreds of millions by insider trading. I could see Vivek being very useful to the party. Maybe he even buys into some of his talking points! I think he has a future beyond being the Republican version of Andrew Yang
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:20:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you were polling number 2 and you have a pacs raising 10's of millions of dollars you better say that . I posted my reasons before why I think he would accept the position and why Trump would offer it . I don't think I'm wrong on the reason but who knows . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who else? DeSantis has said no very plainly (and would be ignorant to take it) , Haley doesn't have a chance i don't believe, I guess maybe there's some nobody that he might pick but noone with any sense or name recognition and hope for a future would accept When you were polling number 2 and you have a pacs raising 10's of millions of dollars you better say that . I posted my reasons before why I think he would accept the position and why Trump would offer it . I don't think I'm wrong on the reason but who knows . I'd like to believe he's to principled (and intelligent) to tie himself to Trump. There's also the EC issue, if both nominees are from the same state, the delegates in that state can't vote for one of them (thats how I understand it from my reading) . IF its a close election, which I don't necessarily believe it will be with Trump on the ballot, how does that affect the outcome, especially in a swing state like FL? |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:23:58 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess worst case scenario he's a slick talking, pump and dump, wall street pharma hustler? Probably not any worse than a mid-tier city lawyer taking office and then making their tens/hundreds of millions by insider trading. I could see Vivek being very useful to the party. Maybe he even buys into some of his talking points! I think he has a future beyond being the Republican version of Andrew Yang You think so ? I think this was a 1 shot deal for him . If he gets VP then yeah but if he doesn't I think he will quickly fade away after the election. I don't think he's going to run for a house seat or governorship . This was it for him . Go for the brass ring the first time around |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:24:47 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I strongly disagree on that but I guess we well see how this plays out . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's probably the only one that would take it, and I think it was his entire purpose of running I strongly disagree on that but I guess we well see how this plays out . Nimarata would take it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:27:02 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Feinstein too. But republicans are no better… And overall I think there are somewhere around 20 congress members 80 or older. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 100% I mean it worked out in our favor but RBG literally died on the bench. Frail, old, and completely senile. . . . in one of the most important judicial positions in the world. I understand there are additional complexities surrounding SCJ, and the argument for having life tenure, but wow. Feinstein too. But republicans are no better… And overall I think there are somewhere around 20 congress members 80 or older. Your point is valid but if I may steal a line from FGN, “I’d take Clarence Thomas at 100…” |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:27:17 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think so ? I think this was a 1 shot deal for him . If he gets VP then yeah but if he doesn't I think he will quickly fade away after the election. I don't think he's going to run for a house seat or governorship . This was it for him . Go for the brass ring the first time around I was thinking he hangs around and runs again in 28. He's probably too wealthy and ambitious for a senate seat imho |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:28:17 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to believe he's to principled (and intelligent) to tie himself to Trump. There's also the EC issue, if both nominees are from the same state, the delegates in that state can't vote for one of them (thats how I understand it from my reading) . IF its a close election, which I don't necessarily believe it will be with Trump on the ballot, how does that affect the outcome, especially in a swing state like FL? Honestly I'm not familiar enough on that issue to post a reply |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:31:17 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly I'm not familiar enough on that issue to post a reply I had to go read about it after someone brought it up here. The way I understand it, the delegates vote for pres and vp separately, and one of their votes has to reside outside that state. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:33:05 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to go read about it after someone brought it up here. The way I understand it, the delegates vote for pres and vp separately, and one of their votes has to reside outside that state. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:33:43 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to go read about it after someone brought it up here. The way I understand it, the delegates vote for pres and vp separately, and one of their votes has to reside outside that state. They can be from the same state but the votes can only be cast once. In a close race it can cause problems. It happened back with W and Al Gore. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:34:04 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to go read about it after someone brought it up here. The way I understand it, the delegates vote for pres and vp separately, and one of their votes has to reside outside that state. interesting didn't know that |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:35:21 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They can be from the same state but the votes can only be cast once. In a close race it can cause problems. It happened back with W and Al Gore. Thats actually part of what I read about, if Cheney hadn't moved his "official" residence outside of Texas prior to the election then it would have probably screwed W |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 7:07:22 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who else? DeSantis has said no very plainly (and would be ignorant to take it) , Haley doesn't have a chance i don't believe, I guess maybe there's some nobody that he might pick but noone with any sense or name recognition and hope for a future would accept Omarosa 
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Posted: 12/3/2023 7:08:54 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Omarosa I half expect the pillow guy if its not vivek |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 7:23:50 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who else? DeSantis has said no very plainly (and would be ignorant to take it) , Haley doesn't have a chance i don't believe, I guess maybe there's some nobody that he might pick but noone with any sense or name recognition and hope for a future would accept Vivek has also said no very plainly as well(to a VP or cabinet spot). |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 7:30:16 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vivek has also said no very plainly as well(to a VP or cabinet spot). I'm just not sure enough about him to believe it. He's tied in with family already and I really feel like his whole run has been an audition/try to draw fire from trump. But I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 7:31:26 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I half expect the pillow guy if its not vivek  Attached FileI'm sure Hunter has left a lot of cocaine stashed around the White House, so that could work out well. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:24:17 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The key difference is that the Trump influencers/whatever go after PUBLIC people like DeSantis, Neverbackdown, DeSantis influencers, etc. They do NOT go after Desantis voters like this: That is the typical undeserved condescension that the upper class has for the dirty Trump voters. I see it in all levels of vocal DeSantis supports, including the people he surrounds himself with. I havent noticed any Trump voter try shame or disparage a DeSantis voter, I have noticed nasty things said about people who choose to be public figures (and therefore knew what they were getting into). This type of attitude is a mix of arrogance and shamelessness, considering the bang up job they have done for at least the last 50 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People complain about DeSantis supporters being mean or rude on social media, but I haven't seen anything yet that approaches the nastiness of Loomer or the Dilley meme team. The key difference is that the Trump influencers/whatever go after PUBLIC people like DeSantis, Neverbackdown, DeSantis influencers, etc. They do NOT go after Desantis voters like this: Quoted: Says a lot about Desantis and was certainly the founders intent that politicians be servants. Trump supporters want a King because they are lazy. They think if they wear the hats and pull the lever for Trump and chant MAGA all their problems will magically go away with no more effort. It’s why his record is so bad and they are so lazy they won’t even hold his feet to the fire on his failings and lies. Vote for Trump and all your wildest dreams will come true. This is why we see them push for a dynasty of Trumps family. That is the typical undeserved condescension that the upper class has for the dirty Trump voters. I see it in all levels of vocal DeSantis supports, including the people he surrounds himself with. I havent noticed any Trump voter try shame or disparage a DeSantis voter, I have noticed nasty things said about people who choose to be public figures (and therefore knew what they were getting into). This type of attitude is a mix of arrogance and shamelessness, considering the bang up job they have done for at least the last 50 years. Bullshit. Some Trump supporters behave poorly and people point it out. Look at this thread. In this thread we have SEVERAL of them bashing a a serviceman’s combat service, as a means to defend draft-dodging Trump. THAT type of shit has become typical and people notice. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 9:58:09 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just not sure enough about him to believe it. He's tied in with family already and I really feel like his whole run has been an audition/try to draw fire from trump. But I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Vivek has also said no very plainly as well(to a VP or cabinet spot). I'm just not sure enough about him to believe it. He's tied in with family already and I really feel like his whole run has been an audition/try to draw fire from trump. But I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time I think it's to gain name recognition for a future Senate run. Of course, if he scores a cabinet position in the meantime, all the better (in his mind). |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:03:01 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. Some Trump supporters behave poorly and people point it out. Look at this thread. In this thread we have SEVERAL of them bashing a a serviceman’s combat service, as a means to defend draft-dodging Trump. THAT type of shit has become typical and people notice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: People complain about DeSantis supporters being mean or rude on social media, but I haven't seen anything yet that approaches the nastiness of Loomer or the Dilley meme team. The key difference is that the Trump influencers/whatever go after PUBLIC people like DeSantis, Neverbackdown, DeSantis influencers, etc. They do NOT go after Desantis voters like this: Quoted: Says a lot about Desantis and was certainly the founders intent that politicians be servants. Trump supporters want a King because they are lazy. They think if they wear the hats and pull the lever for Trump and chant MAGA all their problems will magically go away with no more effort. It’s why his record is so bad and they are so lazy they won’t even hold his feet to the fire on his failings and lies. Vote for Trump and all your wildest dreams will come true. This is why we see them push for a dynasty of Trumps family. That is the typical undeserved condescension that the upper class has for the dirty Trump voters. I see it in all levels of vocal DeSantis supports, including the people he surrounds himself with. I havent noticed any Trump voter try shame or disparage a DeSantis voter, I have noticed nasty things said about people who choose to be public figures (and therefore knew what they were getting into). This type of attitude is a mix of arrogance and shamelessness, considering the bang up job they have done for at least the last 50 years. Bullshit. Some Trump supporters behave poorly and people point it out. Look at this thread. In this thread we have SEVERAL of them bashing a a serviceman’s combat service, as a means to defend draft-dodging Trump. THAT type of shit has become typical and people notice. I agree with all of this, things really need to change. These few bad trump supporters have no excuse for poor behavior, especially when they're attacking one of our own. desantis is terrific at following orders by the guy who really runs our country. and even through it all lately, ron has become an entrepreneur to earn some extra money like so many lovely young ladies online. he's not great at it yet but i know he'll keep trying. > > > > > > > > > > > just listen to this passionate testimonial from ron's lovely wife. who wouldn't want to see her next tuesday?  Ron DeSantis has released an ad indoctrinating his children into Trumpism |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:56:52 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's to gain name recognition for a future Senate run. Of course, if he scores a cabinet position in the meantime, all the better (in his mind). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Vivek has also said no very plainly as well(to a VP or cabinet spot). I'm just not sure enough about him to believe it. He's tied in with family already and I really feel like his whole run has been an audition/try to draw fire from trump. But I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time I think it's to gain name recognition for a future Senate run. Of course, if he scores a cabinet position in the meantime, all the better (in his mind). Maybe, really who knows. When I found out early on that he was tied in with Ivanka/Kush, my first thought was he was "hired" to try and keep some the trump agenda forward, without being trump, and divide the primary until it was time for him to step aside and throw his support behind trump. Either way, I don't trust him, he's just too slick even for a pol |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:06:49 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shows your depth 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:11:11 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Umberto had his high heels photochop, you have this YouTube clip. Shows your depth Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shows your depth Umberto, that cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker, was jealous of Ron’s heels. And I don’t call Umberto a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker because he is a Trump follower. I call him a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker because he is a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:14:09 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with all of this, things really need to change. These few bad trump supporters have no excuse for poor behavior, especially when they're attacking one of our own. desantis is terrific at following orders by the guy who really runs our country. and even through it all lately, ron has become an entrepreneur to earn some extra money like so many lovely young ladies online. he's not great at it yet but i know he'll keep trying. > > > > > > > > > > > just listen to this passionate testimonial from ron's lovely wife. who wouldn't want to see her next tuesday?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXsOh my god People are actually going to parrot Trump’s onlyfans petulance? Unthinking followers. Listless vessels. This is why Trump minions get laughed at. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:25:14 AM EST
[#44]
It’s why Trump loves the poorly educated.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:47:32 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with all of this, things really need to change. These few bad trump supporters have no excuse for poor behavior, especially when they're attacking one of our own. desantis is terrific at following orders by the guy who really runs our country. and even through it all lately, ron has become an entrepreneur to earn some extra money like so many lovely young ladies online. he's not great at it yet but i know he'll keep trying. > > > > > > > > > > > just listen to this passionate testimonial from ron's lovely wife. who wouldn't want to see her next tuesday? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXsAmazing news! Now that DeSantis has thrown his support behind Trump we can finally Make America Great Again! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:38:03 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing news! Now that DeSantis has thrown his support behind Trump we can finally Make America Great Again! "Make America Great Again Again But Not Like Last Time Because I Learned My Lesson But Not In A Way I Can Articulate Just In A Way Where Everyone Else Was Wrong And Mean But Anyway Let's Do The Same Thing Again And Give Control Back To The Democrats Again" |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:49:03 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Make America Great Again Again But Not Like Last Time Because I Learned My Lesson But Not In A Way I Can Articulate Just In A Way Where Everyone Else Was Wrong And Mean But Anyway Let's Do The Same Thing Again And Give Control Back To The Democrats Again" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Amazing news! Now that DeSantis has thrown his support behind Trump we can finally Make America Great Again! "Make America Great Again Again But Not Like Last Time Because I Learned My Lesson But Not In A Way I Can Articulate Just In A Way Where Everyone Else Was Wrong And Mean But Anyway Let's Do The Same Thing Again And Give Control Back To The Democrats Again" "I will do next time what I couldn't do last time (and none of that was my fault even if I picked them and wouldn't fire them)." |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:54:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "I will do next time what I couldn't do last time (and none of that was my fault even if I picked them and wouldn't fire them)." But instead of this:  It's this: 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:56:08 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Umberto, that cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker, was jealous of Ron’s heels. And I don’t call Umberto a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker because he is a Trump follower. I call him a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker because he is a cross dressing cum guzzling cock sucker.  Attached FileSavage |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 11:10:35 AM EST
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