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Posted: 10/27/2022 8:49:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cayman_shen: Oh absolutely. There's a stab at Trump in the last episode. The thing is, I'm watching it thinking the Empire is like the Dems, the writers think they're portraying Republicans (as did Lucas)...where is the disconnect? We all perceive our leaders as enemies of freedom, but from opposite sides of the spectrum. Why don't we have any common ground? I think they're delusional of course, and they probably think the same of me. Meanwhile the uniparty laughs at us plebs. The disconnect is they are wrong. There is an obvious difference between the Left and true conservatives/Constitutionalists: the Left wants huge government with absolute power, to tax, regulate and control every aspect of our lives, down to how we speak and think. The conservatives want small gov with limited power, that leaves everyone alone to believe and do as they will... as the Constitution prescribed. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 8:58:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: The Saw Gerrera scene is also pretty good too btw. If you haven't seen the Clone Wars show you probably should by now, he's talking about stuff you'd miss if you haven't.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdSAsJ-rjwIs clone wars a cartoon or real people? |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Is clone wars a cartoon or real people? Animated |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:05:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uglygun: Palpatine is the end of 1000 years of manipulations that may or may not be Bane ressurrected/passed on through new hosts. Palpatine was handed the keys to something that just needed some extra persuasion/manipulating. The creation of the rule of two and the end goal being reached only by the strengths of the master being passed on should the apprentice be strong enough. There were once thousands of Sith and thousands of Jedi. It took one Sith to realize how watered down the force was if powere was to be shared by many... The way Andor is being done gives some hope that a dark side focused DARK plotting Sith series could be done and done well. Something that stretches so far back that what little Yoda knows of the dark side was passed down to him because it predates when he was born. How it could then be woven in to the mandalorian lore is something that would take some actual vision and goddamn talent. This possibility and the thought of the above is what Star Wars fans nerdgasm over and yet we get shit like "like a bantha" with Boba Fett. Andor is definitely an "in the right direction" attempt. A series on darth maul and his education/upbringing would be cool. One predating yoda or padowan yoda would be good too. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:45:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Animated Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By viralinsurgency: Is clone wars a cartoon or real people? Animated 
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Posted: 10/27/2022 10:00:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Is he really that evil though? I mean compared to Warhammer 40k's Imperium of Man the Empire is a liberal utopia. What exactly was the Sith endgoal anyway, dominate the galaxy and just enforce law and order? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By dillydilly: I highly recommend you read Darth Plageuis(if you haven't already). Palpatine was the utmost Sith of all Sith. Pure evil genius. Is he really that evil though? I mean compared to Warhammer 40k's Imperium of Man the Empire is a liberal utopia. What exactly was the Sith endgoal anyway, dominate the galaxy and just enforce law and order? As a die hard 40K fan….. if the IOM is what you use to show something isn’t all that fucked up……it’s super fucked up. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 10:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Is clone wars a cartoon or real people? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Originally Posted By jackthom8: The Saw Gerrera scene is also pretty good too btw. If you haven't seen the Clone Wars show you probably should by now, he's talking about stuff you'd miss if you haven't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdSAsJ-rjwIs clone wars a cartoon or real people? The animation style makes it difficult to get into and some of the episodes are pretty forgettable, but it has some of the best Star Wars content out there and is a must watch IMO. I would recommend watching it in chronological order rather than release order, it gets confusing sometimes. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 10:20:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Just want to reiterate,
This series is by far the biggest breath of fresh air in a long time for SW. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 10:44:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mochaTX: Just want to reiterate, This series is by far the biggest breath of fresh air in a long time for SW.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 11:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: As a die hard 40K fan .. if the IOM is what you use to show something isn't all that fucked up it's super fucked up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jDrexler: Originally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By dillydilly: I highly recommend you read Darth Plageuis(if you haven't already). Palpatine was the utmost Sith of all Sith. Pure evil genius. Is he really that evil though? I mean compared to Warhammer 40k's Imperium of Man the Empire is a liberal utopia. What exactly was the Sith endgoal anyway, dominate the galaxy and just enforce law and order? As a die hard 40K fan .. if the IOM is what you use to show something isn't all that fucked up it's super fucked up.  |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 11:15:38 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: A series on darth maul and his education/upbringing would be cool. One predating yoda or padowan yoda would be good too. Pretty sure some of that was covered in some old CloneWars stuff where they went into Maul surviving. Bane and the entire Knights of the Old Republic stuff was pretty decent. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 12:31:39 AM EDT
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I'm looking forward to a KOTOR series, but I think they're going to milk the Filoniverse to death first.
Mando/Ahsoka are basically built to tie into Rebels and TCW, they'll have cameos and story arcs to last a decade. Maybe after Andor wraps that team will move on to KOTOR, or Bane. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 4:33:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Somebody read my post about the TIE fighter part and made a video about it.
 I Think I Figured It Out... |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 6:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Somebody read my post about the TIE fighter part and made a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP9nMqGdMFsI think Allan is incorrect. That would be a single plane setup, and even then, you'd need sliding assy's because of joint distance. Double plane would need sliders too. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 6:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: I think Allan is incorrect. That would be a single plane setup, and even then, you'd need sliding assy's because of joint distance. Double plane would need sliders too. Agreed. He's usually on point, but I think he's off on this.. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 6:27:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mochaTX: Just want to reiterate, This series is by far the biggest breath of fresh air in a long time for SW. It's the best series they've done, IMO. It's also a shame that the ratings have been bad so we're unlikely to see more of this after this season. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: I think Allan is incorrect. That would be a single plane setup, and even then, you'd need sliding assy's because of joint distance. Double plane would need sliders too. Not necessarily. The joint would allow for alignment which would be needed for assembly and wear. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:17:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Not necessarily. The joint would allow for alignment which would be needed for assembly and wear. What is articulated on a TIE though? |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:21:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: What is articulated on a TIE though? As a retired fighter wrench. There are some strong structural parts that need minimal adjustment that could be like that. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:23:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: As a retired fighter wrench. There are some strong structural parts that need minimal adjustment that could be like that.  Attached FileI'm still sticking with gear struts.. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: The Saw Gerrera scene is also pretty good too btw. If you haven't seen the Clone Wars show you probably should by now, he's talking about stuff you'd miss if you haven't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdSAsJ-rjwI am trying to get through it. I am at the end of season 2. It is actually very good. It's really funny but also dark in some of the episodes as well. Is it just me or am I imagining it, do they make all the Twi'lek females with super hot rocking bodies or what? |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif I'm still sticking with gear struts.. Nothing says they don't fold or collapse for shipment like the rotor head of helicopter. It would make no sense to not be able to collapse the fighter for easier shipment. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:48:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Nothing says they don't fold or collapse for shipment like the rotor head of helicopter. It would make no sense to not be able to collapse the fighter for easier shipment. We've never seen them do that tho. We see them full up in ever launch sequence... |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:53:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: We've never seen them do that tho. We see them full up in ever launch sequence... Doesn't mean they don't and the design itself has an origami look to the panels just like the old panels on Skylab. Just thinking out loud so to speak. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 7:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ontime1969: I am trying to get through it. I am at the end of season 2. It is actually very good. It's really funny but also dark in some of the episodes as well. Is it just me or am I imagining it, do they make all the Twi'lek females with super hot rocking bodies or what? Well yeah, twileks were literally bred to be sex slaves. And Filoni, the dude who made the show, is a completely shameless Ahsoka fanboy obsessed with his own creation. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:01:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Well yeah, twileks were literally bred to be sex slaves. And Filoni, the dude who made the show, is a completely shameless Ahsoka fanboy obsessed with his own creation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By ontime1969: I am trying to get through it. I am at the end of season 2. It is actually very good. It's really funny but also dark in some of the episodes as well. Is it just me or am I imagining it, do they make all the Twi'lek females with super hot rocking bodies or what? Well yeah, twileks were literally bred to be sex slaves. And Filoni, the dude who made the show, is a completely shameless Ahsoka fanboy obsessed with his own creation. Ahsoka isn’t a Twilek. But, yes, Twileks are all hot.  |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: We've never seen them do that tho. We see them full up in ever launch sequence... They have shown the wings fold to flat, per the mandalorian, and rebels iirc. That requires a longitudinal joint, and not 120 degree spaced arms though. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-1904: Ahsoka isn’t a Twilek. But, yes, Twileks are all hot. https://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/star-wars-episode-7/2/24/The_deserter.jpeg  Yes, yes they are. 
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Bet many folks had no choice ... defying the empire is painful for you and your family and home planet Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By cayman_shen: I never held that Death Star crew was somehow innocent. Bet many folks had no choice ... defying the empire is painful for you and your family and home planet Pensions > freedom, right? |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:22:47 PM EDT
[#30]
My thought is that those parts are for the Death Star. The whole reason for the secret labor force and secret prisons is to build the thing, then they're going to eliminate all the prisoners.
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:23:58 PM EDT
[#31]
I’m personally holding out for a Darth Talon series.
 Backstage Pass: Darth Talon Premium Format Figure |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:24:38 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: I have to marvel at the genius of Palpatine. Palpatine simultaneously turned the galaxy against the Jedi and divided the people of the galaxy so deeply through the Clone Wars that he completely orchestrated that he almost insured no rebellion of any significance could form. "The Plan," as Darth Maul calls it in Clone Wars, was pretty much flawless, but you'd expect it to be since it was the produce of a thousand years of careful maneuvers by the Sith. If you have not read the Star War book Dark Plageuis, I highly recommend you get the Audio Book. Palpatine is pure evil, but you have to be in awe of his genius. I like that Andor is paying respect to that genius and the Empire competence, because to have a good protagonist you absolutely need a highly dangerous antagonist. Interesting real world parallels to be drawn |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: Pensions > freedom, right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DefenderAO: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By cayman_shen: I never held that Death Star crew was somehow innocent. Bet many folks had no choice ... defying the empire is painful for you and your family and home planet Pensions > freedom, right? Standing tall in front of the gas chamber huh? |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: They have shown the wings fold to flat, per the mandalorian, and rebels iirc. That requires a longitudinal joint, and not 120 degree spaced arms though. Need to compare to existing Ties within Andor from heist scenes and then comfirm if they are identical to Rogue One/NewHope. They have taken liberties with the designs as time moved on. Look at what was Episode 1-3 versus 4-6. 7-9 doesnt matter exist. I can see shapes for death star as well for enter locking floors and making spherical designs based off triangles and hex shapes. Just so nice to see the thought put into this series. Wish to fucking god they took more time with Boba/Obi nonsense. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 12:13:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: My thought is that those parts are for the Death Star. The whole reason for the secret labor force and secret prisons is to build the thing, then they're going to eliminate all the prisoners. If true, that’s pretty tragic as they’ll get killed by it in about 5 years. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 12:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Laufen: Yeah, I don't. I value my rights. I get it, you'd rather be entertained by a space man story than stick to your principles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Laufen: Originally Posted By stampkolektor: Originally Posted By Laufen: There are plenty of sources of wonderful entertainment that don't use my money to destroy me and my way of life. Ah, Californian. Makes sense. ok we get, you dont consume anything remotely left leaning. kthanksbye Yeah, I don't. I value my rights. I get it, you'd rather be entertained by a space man story than stick to your principles. How's your sportsball team doing? I'm sure you're still watching sportsball. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 12:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Animated Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By viralinsurgency: Is clone wars a cartoon or real people? Animated But we'll worth the watch. All of the live action SW shows have call backs to the SW Clone Wars, SW Rebels shows. |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 1:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: But we'll worth the watch. All of the live action SW shows have call backs to the SW Clone Wars, SW Rebels shows. Indeed. I need to go rewatch that |
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Posted: 10/29/2022 10:07:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Indeed. I need to go rewatch that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By TheTallest: But we'll worth the watch. All of the live action SW shows have call backs to the SW Clone Wars, SW Rebels shows. Indeed. I need to go rewatch that Some great material in the later seasons of both Rebels and TCW. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 12:08:43 AM EDT
[#40]
At least we finally know why the Empire fell. They assign entire sectors of space to Lieutenants.
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:01:05 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: We've never seen them do that tho. We see them full up in ever launch sequence... But we do. Moff Gideons wings folded on his TIE in Mandalorian IIRC |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:01:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PN5X5: It's the best series they've done, IMO. It's also a shame that the ratings have been bad so we're unlikely to see more of this after this season. They have already said there will be a 2nd season, with 12 more episodes. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:42:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: At least we finally know why the Empire fell. They assign entire sectors of space to Lieutenants. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61337/am-i-the-only-one-who-think-lieutenant-b-2581343.JPG Dammit, I should have come up with that. 
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Posted: 10/30/2022 10:44:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shane01: But we do. Moff Gideons wings folded on his TIE in Mandalorian IIRC That's a one off tho... |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 12:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: That's a one off tho... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By shane01: But we do. Moff Gideons wings folded on his TIE in Mandalorian IIRC That's a one off tho... Nope. According to Wookieepedia the Outland Tie was in use in other scenes, it just wasn't necessarily shown with folded wings. Folding wings aren't new either, just the way they fold changed. The Grand Inquisitor flew a Tie/ad v1 which went into production for a while too so if they are making those parts the timing would be about right for a next gen version. Rebels showed a couple experimental versions they were trying. Plus, the Outland was a design for the movies (that will remain ignored) and was picked up for Mandalorian so makes sense they would link to the other series on D+. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shane01: They have already said there will be a 2nd season, with 12 more episodes. Yeah, the series was originally supposed to run five seasons so two is already a shame. They've done way too much work setting up backstories and easter eggs to cancel the second season now. Andor leading into R1 is going to be amazing, ratings will catch up. It might even be like Firefly where it doesn't get recognized until it's over. Lots of people couldn't get past Kennedy's producer credit and the slow pace, but even my kids have warmed up to it. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:31:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeyCoach: Some great material in the later seasons of both Rebels and TCW. TCW is still my favorite SW entry of all time. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick: I guaran-fuckin-tee you, if you were to ask the writers who they liken the empire to, they'd say trump/repubs/conservatives. The writers may have certain political views but the original concept of the empire developed by George Lucas was based on the nazis from WWII. I see no reasons why that has changed. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 4:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cayman_shen: A story is more than plot...theme matters also. Intercutting between Cassian, Mon, and Syril shows how they're all in their own prisons. I wouldn't trim a second. Totally captivating episode. Also, there was like five solid minutes of gay stuff and it didn't feel shoved down your throat, preachy, or tacked on. The fact that they managed not to annoy me there was impressive. Two hardcore, freedom loving women with meaningful things to do and say kept me invested in the parts of their characters that matter. Watching this show, I keep thinking how funny it is that the writers are probably pretty left of center, while I'm pretty right, and yet we all hate the goddamn government. Saw's rant against ideologically impure groups that share a common goal was on the money. Yeah when they went into the gay scene I kind of rolled my eyes and braces for the SJW rhetoric but it was surprisingly mild. And rather than being like “the empire is oppressing us because we’re gay!” They kept it simple and just used it as an example of the sacrifices the rebels are making. It wasn’t really necessary but it also didn’t take away from the over overall story. |
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Posted: 10/30/2022 5:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Well yeah, twileks were literally bred to be sex slaves. And Filoni, the dude who made the show, is a completely shameless Ahsoka fanboy obsessed with his own creation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By ontime1969: I am trying to get through it. I am at the end of season 2. It is actually very good. It's really funny but also dark in some of the episodes as well. Is it just me or am I imagining it, do they make all the Twi'lek females with super hot rocking bodies or what? Well yeah, twileks were literally bred to be sex slaves. And Filoni, the dude who made the show, is a completely shameless Ahsoka fanboy obsessed with his own creation. It's already been covered, but Ahsoka isn't a Twi'lek she's a Togrutan. One notable example is the Jedi Master Shaak Ti (seen in the prequels on Kamino). They haven't been seen a lot on screen compared to Twi'leks. There was a brief arc in TCW where Anakin and Ahsoka rescued some from slavers. |
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