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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:43:32 PM EST
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Quoted: I've been trying a few of them on a regular basis and have not really noticed anything. Yes, I am buying the actual fermented probiotic stuff. Yes, but make sure they are “raw,”not pasteurized |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:44:07 PM EST
[#2]
I like a little sauerkraut but I didn’t know it was supposed to be good for me. Yogurt makes me want to puke. I think most that shit saying it’s good for you is a sales pitch. It’s not exactly easily found naturally.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:45:40 PM EST
[#3]
Changing your gut health is a journey i think. No "one size fits all". I think it's worth it
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:47:42 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like a little sauerkraut but I didn’t know it was supposed to be good for me. Yogurt makes me want to puke. I think most that shit saying it’s good for you is a sales pitch. It’s not exactly easily found naturally. Fermented foods contain probiotics and more bio-available nutrients. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:48:38 PM EST
[#5]
I don't know. But I do love sauerkraut!
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:49:46 PM EST
[#6]
I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD!
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:50:39 PM EST
[#7]
About all I can say is that cabbage is high in fiber
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:51:11 PM EST
[#8]
The extra spicy kimchi I ate yesterday really cleaned me out.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:51:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like a little sauerkraut but I didn’t know it was supposed to be good for me. Yogurt makes me want to puke. I think most that shit saying it’s good for you is a sales pitch. It’s not exactly easily found naturally. Rotten food is pretty natural, figuring out what kind of rot won't kill us/ will preserve food edibly over time is maybe less natural but the benefit is you don't die. A functioning "gut biome" is for sure important, but I don't think most people are going to see a real change just from eating the expensive yogurt/ whatever fermented food. Most of the "it changed my life" kind of claims about any kind of diet/ super food/ etc are because a lard ass started paying attention to what they were eating at all and moving slightly. Maybe a good idea to grab a probiotic/ the raw stuff if you're dragging ass after a course of antibiotics, but mostly a big meh, won't hurt is my take. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:51:56 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD! Be careful around this guy and "fermented" food! 
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:55:34 PM EST
[#11]
It in theory changes your gut bacteria. Though everything is a balance
Bananas, rice, applesauce and toast is a common reccomendation from doctors to fix gut issues. People think its just to stop immediate issues, but it also kind of resets your gut bacteria. My German ass is eating kraut regardless of how bad it might be for me |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:56:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be careful around this guy and "fermented" food! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD! Be careful around this guy and "fermented" food!   |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:10:56 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like a little sauerkraut but I didn't know it was supposed to be good for me. Yogurt makes me want to puke. I think most that shit saying it's good for you is a sales pitch. It's not exactly easily found naturally. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:13:15 PM EST
[#14]
Without removing sugar and artificial sweeteners from your diet I doubt it will make a difference.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:13:22 PM EST
[#15]
I have never felt like I benefited from the addition of any one food into my diet.
The only benefits I've ever truly experienced have come from the removal of foods. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:18:36 PM EST
[#16]
It may not be healthy, but I do like some kimchi from time to time.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:29:20 PM EST
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It may take 6 months for probiotics to make a difference, if you ever feel any at all. I've been taking probiotics for over a year and don't really feel a difference, but I am convinced they are good for my health. From what I've read, you might expect to see a difference if you're remediating digestive/gut issues. I DO see a difference from the PREbiotics (fiber) I've taken. I had a mild case of diverticulitis that left me with weird bowel movement issues, and the prebiotics have really helped. Supposedly that is from the bacteria that the prebiotics are feeding. (You can get prebiotic tablets or powder from Amazon, Walmart, etc.)
As someone else said, do not buy pasteurized sauerkraut because the heat kills the critters. I know that canned sauerkraut is pasteurized, and that not all refrigerated sauerkraut contain live bacteria (probiotics.) Also, some is pickled with vinegar, which will kill the bacteria. There are several brands that contain probiotics. Your best best is to do a web search and then see what's available near you. My problem with sauerkraut is that I only like it hot, and heat kills the bacteria. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:29:31 PM EST
[#18]
I have a very clean diet already but was always an every 2-3 day guy.
Last 2 years i’ve made an effort to eat a minimum of 1cup sourkraut or kimchi daily. i’m now an every day guy. I’m never bloated anymore either. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:32:45 PM EST
[#19]
Kimchi is good in scrambled eggs and sausage
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:35:56 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kimchi is good in scrambled eggs and sausage fried eggs and rice too. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:38:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD! |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:41:14 PM EST
[#22]
I’m not a doctor, but I feel like the most benefit you’ll get from these is if you’ve taken a course of antibiotics recently.
Anecdotal, but I had to take a course of antibiotics and my stomach was messed up for a few weeks. I started taking probiotics and it got noticeably better within a day or two. Then once your gut is fully colonized with bacteria, I don’t think you really are going to gain much. It’s like trying to fill an already full gas tank. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:59:07 PM EST
[#23]
I'm not allowed to have sauerkraut anymore, I woke p one morning and my wife was on the couch. She thought about burning all out bedding.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 12:16:33 AM EST
[#24]
A very kind offer to be sure, but I will respectfully decline.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:15:02 AM EST
[#25]
No.
They are just foods. The benefits are far overblown, just like the detriments of "processed" foods. Processed foods are good. What isn't good are chemicals and sugar. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:18:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: . It's not exactly easily found naturally. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:22:13 AM EST
[#27]
Pickled corn, pickled cow tongue, pickled pigs feet, pickled vegetables (green beans, carrots, cabbage). ??
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:23:04 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It may not be healthy, but I do like some kimchi from time to time. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:25:11 AM EST
[#29]
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Quoted: I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD! [/qute]I've learned not to click on your food threads [/quote Your from ohio where they cook bbq ribs in crock pots....sooooo..... |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:27:47 AM EST
[#30]
They taste good. I don't really notice anything else.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:28:18 AM EST
[#31]
Spend some time listening to “the ultimate health podcast “ and you will find “expert MDs” support the compete opposite of each other. Recently I listed to two on a drive, one dr was all carnivore diet, salt intake, iodine supplementation, high intensity exercise is bad, anti-fasting, and vegetables/fermented foods are pointless. Then listened to a guy who fixes people with fasting, against animal foods, promotes all veggie diet, limit salt, fat, oil and sugar.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:29:33 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It in theory changes your gut bacteria. Though everything is a balance Bananas, rice, applesauce and toast is a common reccomendation from doctors to fix gut issues. People think its just to stop immediate issues, but it also kind of resets your gut bacteria. My German ass is eating kraut regardless of how bad it might be for me Toast is healthy? I want to believe. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:35:45 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spend some time listening to “the ultimate health podcast “ and you will find “expert MDs” support the compete opposite of each other. Recently I listed to two on a drive, one dr was all carnivore diet, salt intake, iodine supplementation, high intensity exercise is bad, anti-fasting, and vegetables/fermented foods are pointless. Then listened to a guy who fixes people with fasting, against animal foods, promotes all veggie diet, limit salt, fat, oil and sugar. Right? I’m still not sure if eggs are supposed to kill me or cure me. I’ll tell you one thing I’ll take anal bum cancer over giving up bacon and gabbagool. Nitrosamines reeeeeeeeee! |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:36:43 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spend some time listening to “the ultimate health podcast “ and you will find “expert MDs” support the compete opposite of each other. Recently I listed to two on a drive, one dr was all carnivore diet, salt intake, iodine supplementation, high intensity exercise is bad, anti-fasting, and vegetables/fermented foods are pointless. Then listened to a guy who fixes people with fasting, against animal foods, promotes all veggie diet, limit salt, fat, oil and sugar.  Fermented Foods: The Simple Habit That Could Change Your Health | The Ultimate Human | Ep. 94 |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 5:38:05 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Saurkraut and yogurt literally make themselves. Abiotic conditions under water with off gassing and it makes itself. Don't stir, poke, or even look at it. If you use a glass jar keep it out of the sun light. Works both in the fridge or in a cool place. If you start it with some juice from some kimchi (a few drops) it goes faster and better. "Does anything for health" is an open question, it'll make you poop right which helps all by itself. I also think from personal experience there is some low level pleasurable sensations and mood lifting that happens but that could be the "poop right" thing again. If you purchase the stuff, get it from the cooler not the shelf. Anything on the shelf is pasteurized or even just canned (so, dead) get it from the cooler section. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:00:02 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryI might find that to listen on a podcast app while I drive. My point with the post was that if you listen to one person, another completely contradicts them. The pro-carnivore diet lady vaguely reasons we shouldn’t eat sauerkraut because “cabbage doesn’t want us to eat it” unlike ”fruit which flourishes by having animals eat it and spread the seeds out wider”. I admit to turning it off at some point because none if what she was saying had any research to back up her statements. There are plenty of MDs and medical experts that are full of shit. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:19:09 AM EST
[#37]
For gut health I eat plenty of fiber and eat Triple Zero Oikos vanilla Greek yogurt.
I've also been drinking greens (Amazing grass). I got a ridiculous deal on a bunch of it so I bought it. Been using it for ~3 months now. The yogurt and greens definitely help move things along on a high protein diet. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:25:06 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I might find that to listen on a podcast app while I drive. My point with the post was that if you listen to one person, another completely contradicts them. The pro-carnivore diet lady vaguely reasons we shouldn’t eat sauerkraut because “cabbage doesn’t want us to eat it” unlike ”fruit which flourishes by having animals eat it and spread the seeds out wider”. I admit to turning it off at some point because none if what she was saying had any research to back up her statements. There are plenty of MDs and medical experts that are full of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: I might find that to listen on a podcast app while I drive. My point with the post was that if you listen to one person, another completely contradicts them. The pro-carnivore diet lady vaguely reasons we shouldn’t eat sauerkraut because “cabbage doesn’t want us to eat it” unlike ”fruit which flourishes by having animals eat it and spread the seeds out wider”. I admit to turning it off at some point because none if what she was saying had any research to back up her statements. There are plenty of MDs and medical experts that are full of shit. Yeah, it's confusing. You know what diet isn't debatable? One that provides some semblance of balance. I've tried the macro-elimination diets and something always felt off like low energy, poor mental acuity, bloated feeling. High lean protein with some fats and good carbs (leafy greens, low GI fruit) and Zero processed foods made the biggest difference for me. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:38:49 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I could hook you up with some REAL FERMENTED FOOD! Bring on the lutefisk!! |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:50:01 AM EST
[#40]
Bullshit!
I’ve been eating nothing but diet sodas and little Debbie cupcakes and Zingers and I’m still alive. Now, where did I leave my butt wipe stick?
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Posted: 9/12/2024 6:54:16 AM EST
[#41]
Fermented drinks help my mental health.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:17:45 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: About all I can say is that cabbage is high in fiber and more vitamin c than oranges. I bought a old timey style cabbage slicing board. Basically a large wooden mandolin slicer. I had to seal it with a food grade oil. I put three coats of tung oil on it and am waiting for it to finish drying. After that it’s time to buy some cabbages. I need to make another batch of kimchee too. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:18:51 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know. But I do love sauerkraut! This. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:24:32 AM EST
[#44]
Short answer: Yes. Your gut contains a zillion bacteria and many different types of bacteria. They need to be supplemented with good bacteria. Fermented food does that.
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:30:09 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Toast is healthy? I want to believe. Only as far as not inducing the shits. You’re still getting carbs. Although I will say a meal with potato will generally fix me up if my system is out of whack. I went all summer with no potatoes. Just got some good looking russets. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:43:19 AM EST
[#46]
Homemade sauerkraut is loaded with bifidobacterium, k2 , vit c , and more fiber for the existing gut biome .
The immune system starts in the gut . There is also the mind-gut connection . It had been shown in studies that covid/mrna vax wipes out bifidobacterium. Next up you get leaky gut that comes along with inflammation, allergies , and autoimmune issues ... nutrient deficiencies ... The modern diet and antibiotics has left us in a shitty situation....pun intended. |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 7:57:50 AM EST
[#47]
Read up on "gut health" and the Vagus nerve...
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Posted: 9/12/2024 8:00:38 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It may not be healthy, but I do like some kimchi from time to time. My time to time has gone to almost non-stop since I found this at Costco :It's not very hot though...  I'm also of German heritage, so sauerkraut is a given. 
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Posted: 9/12/2024 8:02:19 AM EST
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This doc lays out some mechanisms of gut health .
There are studies showing how you inherent your gut biome from your mother . If you were born c-section , your mom was on antibiotics , and you did not breast feed ...you've got a bad start as far as gut biome .  Why Gut Health Affects Everything | Your Gut Bacteria and You |
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Posted: 9/12/2024 8:10:33 AM EST
[#50]
Why would they? It's just a type of goat herder food storage.
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