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Posted: 6/7/2022 5:48:55 PM EDT
Do police have a duty to protect minors given that the state takes the position that CPS/DFS/etc have state authorities to protect minors?
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Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals.
From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. |
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote But now we have the awkward situation of a school district police department who’s only job is to enforce the law in district buildings and protect students and staff of the school. A police department who seemingly failed to act accordingly to their mandate. This raises the question of how the Supreme Court would treat a police department charged with protecting the common public versus a school district police department whose charter is entirely different. |
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OP, what do you mean by 'protect' children? That's kind of a wide open question. Police are mandated reporters on cases of child abuse/neglect etc if that's what you mean.
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Quoted: This raises the question of how the Supreme Court would treat a police department charged with protecting the common public versus a school district police department whose charter is entirely different. View Quote If they're willing to stand there and listen while children are being shot, they should be fired for cowardice. That's not on the Supreme Court; that's on the community that hired them. |
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote Woman and her two roommates held hostage and repeatedly raped. One managed to call 911. Cops did a drive-by, didn't hear or see anything, then went to get donuts. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/341F2912-ED2C-4D5C-BED2-6313C7E59CB2_jpe-2410723.JPG View Quote God Damn |
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote There was a more recent case, Castle Rock v. Gonzales which involved 3 children being murdered because The Police failed to enforce a restraining order. |
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote |
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Quoted: That case was Warren v. District of Columbia There was a more recent case, Castle Rock v. Gonzales which involved 3 children being murdered because The Police failed to enforce a restraining order. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. There was a more recent case, Castle Rock v. Gonzales which involved 3 children being murdered because The Police failed to enforce a restraining order. A guy has a restraining order against him yet he willfully ignored / violated it?... |
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Quoted: I don't give a shit about your kids. View Quote Disregard this trolls response. I dont have a legal responsibility to respond but I do morally. Last time I straddled a corpse was doing CPR on a woman my age after she ran off the road and died. My wife pronounced her dead on the scene when the troopers arrived. I can still feel the creipitus to this day. I am a federal agent as many of you know. We arent all fucktards. That girls death still haunts me. |
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote deshaney v winnebago and gonzales v castle rock eta: deshaney is related to social services |
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Police have no leagl duty to protect anyone. That said their job and their retirement plans should be revoked if they refuse to do what's expected of them .unions will never let that happen habit men who are trusted to protect and run in fear while a school is being massacred should have big consequences
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Quoted: Pretty sure the Supreme Court ruled along the lines of since they have a duty to protect the public as a whole, they can't be held responsible for not protecting individuals. From a case where a chick called about an intruder and the cops sat outside and did nothing, maybe in D.C. View Quote A school house full of kids is as close the public welfare as you can get. Particularily considering the States duty in regards to minors coerced into it's care. |
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They only have a duty to protect them to ensure the Clinton family can traffic them from Haiti to Comet Pizza and the goods remain intact. Q
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In Illinois, DCFS has had several children die whose safety they were supposed to ensure. The head of this agency has been held in contempt of court several times, but nothing ever happens to anybody. Records are lost or non-existent.
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Quoted: Do police have a duty to protect minors given that the state takes the position that CPS/DFS/etc have state authorities to protect minors? View Quote Let's ask Warren... the duty to provide public services is owed to the public at large, and, absent a special relationship between the police and an individual, no specific legal duty exists" View Quote |
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No legal obligation to successfully protect someone is not the same as no duty to intervene.
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This is a mural on the Hallettsville, TX police department so surely they would protect the children! I saw this months ago for the first time and it made me want to throw up. |
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They are happy to write you a ticket on your way to work.
If someone is popping off people at your work place don't wait for them to show up. |
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The prevailing culture in my department is in the event of a mass shooter there are no excuses. If you can't face that, go elsewhere because everyone is hiring. When you think about it that's kind of messed up but we do what we do. My wife understands there is one circumstance where coming home isn't Job One. She doesn't like it but I am what I am.
I have to say that in my locale, that is pretty much the mind set of most of the cops I know. We are a weird bunch. I hope we never have to fight like we train. |
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The courts have ruled repeatedly that the police have absolutely no duty to protect individuals.
This applies to every state agency from police to CPS. |
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I would argue all adults in society have a general obligation to protect young children.
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Quoted: The prevailing culture in my department is in the event of a mass shooter there are no excuses. If you can't face that, go elsewhere because everyone is hiring. When you think about it that's kind of messed up but we do what we do. My wife understands there is one circumstance where coming home isn't Job One. She doesn't like it but I am what I am. I have to say that in my locale, that is pretty much the mind set of most of the cops I know. We are a weird bunch. I hope we never have to fight like we train. View Quote Not weird at all. Honorable. |
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