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Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:02:17 PM EST
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I saw this at a local gunshow from a local company and it seemed amazing... grip bit back at me the way I like, RMR made me feel like I could take on John Clark successfully.


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My best advisor advises going smaller, not larger. I know John received some flack for his views on suppressors for HD, but I’ve seen him shoot in person, I trust him implicitly.
Pistol Red Dots - What Type, What Size MOA, How to Mount, & Which Brand
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:12:28 PM EST
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I saw this at a local gunshow from a local company and it seemed amazing... grip bit back at me the way I like, RMR made me feel like I could take on John Clark successfully.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58038f5e8419c2e5958843ca/59a4c401579fb3645197dffd/5b38ead48a922dbccf98fd45/1530456865827/IMG_2993.jpg?format=1000w
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The only two red dots I would seriously consider are the DPP and RMR. Not the Venom or Viper or whichever that is.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:17:17 PM EST
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The only two red dots I would seriously consider are the DPP and RMR. Not the Venom or Viper or whichever that is.
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I saw this at a local gunshow from a local company and it seemed amazing... grip bit back at me the way I like, RMR made me feel like I could take on John Clark successfully.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58038f5e8419c2e5958843ca/59a4c401579fb3645197dffd/5b38ead48a922dbccf98fd45/1530456865827/IMG_2993.jpg?format=1000w
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The only two red dots I would seriously consider are the DPP and RMR. Not the Venom or Viper or whichever that is.
Why not the Venom? I’ve had good luck with my StrikeEagle and Strike Fire on my rifles..
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:22:02 PM EST
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I saw this at a local gunshow from a local company and it seemed amazing... grip bit back at me the way I like, RMR made me feel like I could take on John Clark successfully.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58038f5e8419c2e5958843ca/59a4c401579fb3645197dffd/5b38ead48a922dbccf98fd45/1530456865827/IMG_2993.jpg?format=1000w
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My best advisor advises going smaller, not larger. I know John received some flack for his views on suppressors for HD, but I’ve seen him shoot in person, I trust him implicitly.
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I don't know who that is, which I'm sure I'll get flack for, and he's probably got a list of creds that someone will post that makes me unqualified to disagree with him, but I stopped watching at around 3:30. Adjustable is not necessary, and I own one. I bought it because I didn't trust that the auto adjust setting would be effective. I was wrong and my fancy adjustable RMR gets left on auto. Reaching down and adjusting the brightness manually every time you move from one lighting environment to another is straight up retarded when the sight will do it for you quite effectively.

I'll stick with the 6.5 MOA dot. My old eyes suck and I can't shoot better than 6.5 MOA with a pistol, anyway, so I'll pass on the theoretical increased precision offered by a smaller dot. Better shooters with better eyes (I'm sure he's both) may disagree.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:34:26 PM EST
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RM06

Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:35:40 PM EST
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So your answer is no.
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I put an RMR 06 on a 4th Gen 19 along with suppressor sights. After dealing with the 1st gen flicker issue and coming to the realization that I wasn't faster or more accurate at combat distances, it just sets in the safe.

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So your answer is no.
A battleworx battery plate will solve all of those flickering issues for cheap. You’re welcome.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:39:56 PM EST
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Nope
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Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:48:41 PM EST
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A battleworx battery plate will solve all of those flickering issues for cheap. You’re welcome.
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Will I have to get my slide re-cut? I have the pro cut from Doug at ATEi.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 7:50:58 PM EST
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No recutting necessary. Plug and play. $10
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:00:19 PM EST
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That’s the style zev’s come with! And the esky took all my play money.... or maybe it’s the zev’s?

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Nice..RMR all the things!
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:02:43 PM EST
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How? More pics, please.
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How? More pics, please.
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IDK honestly.

I had seen the picture before.  I know Bowie Tactical cuts for them and I wold say aTei or other reputable shops cut for them as well I think there are some mounts out there that will go in the rear dovetail.

ETA looks like GALLOWAY PRECISION offers it.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:03:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:08:31 PM EST
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Nice..RMR all the things!
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One has an aimpoint
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:09:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/25/2018 8:44:30 PM EST
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That’s the style zev’s come with! And the esky took all my play money.... or maybe it’s the zev’s?

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Thats sexy dude.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 9:05:45 PM EST
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A battleworx battery plate will solve all of those flickering issues for cheap. You’re welcome.
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I put an RMR 06 on a 4th Gen 19 along with suppressor sights. After dealing with the 1st gen flicker issue and coming to the realization that I wasn't faster or more accurate at combat distances, it just sets in the safe.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/395856/IMG_1045-651062.JPG
So your answer is no.
A battleworx battery plate will solve all of those flickering issues for cheap. You’re welcome.
I put someone's  (trijicon?) shim under the battery, but I'll give battleworx a look.
Link Posted: 8/25/2018 10:11:16 PM EST
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Yup, RMR02 on a G19.

Over a few years, my personal observations carrying with a red dot AIWB are:

I have a big dot RM02 and I would go smaller next time.  I would prefer to cover less of the target with the dot.  For me smaller is not harder to pick up if the illumination is right.

Auto adjust is fine, no real need for manual adjustment capability.  They have never been in an unusable illumination intensity in any situation for me, and I have tried to trip them up.  Outdoors, indoors, indoors aiming outdoors and vice versa, and everything in between I could think of.  One less thing to fail on something electronic.

I went with suppressor night sights for backup even with everything I read at the time suggesting not to, and I am glad I did.  When you get used to shooting with a dot, the irons disappear and never cause any distraction as was feared back then, even in the dark.  And when you need irons, you have night sights.

On many of the holsters I see, the RMR hood is uncovered.  The hood on mine is faded from rubbing and bumping against my 6-pack (keg actually lol) AIWB.  I'd hate to imagine how the rubber pad of the adjustable would fare from the sweat and rubbing.

I suggest a holster with a hood for extra protection and to keep adjustment buttons covered if you go with an adjustable.  I had my hooded holster custom made by a local maker then, but I think some holster makers offer it as an available option on carry holsters now.

Ive gone to I think max 2 years between battery replacements on Energizer 2032's and they were still usable but noticeably dimmer in bright conditions.  I follow the "change the batteries out on your birthday" suggestion I read somewhere.

Get a spacer plate, the sight has a rubber seal on the bottom but a Glock slide is too narrow for the seal to seat against.  Stuff like sweat gets in.  That said I ran a few years with no plate with no problems but I got a Trijicon plate for peace of mind.  No it does not any work to fit it, it is the exact shape of the sight so just put it in between the slide and sight and go.

Refinish the slide cut area.  If your gun gets sweated on or wet it will find its way in there.  I just masked and sprayed with Alumahyde.
Link Posted: 8/26/2018 12:45:16 AM EST
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Why not the Venom? I’ve had good luck with my StrikeEagle and Strike Fire on my rifles..
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I saw this at a local gunshow from a local company and it seemed amazing... grip bit back at me the way I like, RMR made me feel like I could take on John Clark successfully.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58038f5e8419c2e5958843ca/59a4c401579fb3645197dffd/5b38ead48a922dbccf98fd45/1530456865827/IMG_2993.jpg?format=1000w
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The only two red dots I would seriously consider are the DPP and RMR. Not the Venom or Viper or whichever that is.
Why not the Venom? I’ve had good luck with my StrikeEagle and Strike Fire on my rifles..
Battery life, toughness.
Link Posted: 8/26/2018 12:50:15 AM EST
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No,  wouldn’t hate one though.  Not sure you could stick one on a shield.
WRONG. @LS1POWERED

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That's a Compact, not a Shield.
Link Posted: 8/26/2018 2:21:07 PM EST
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So here I am looking at Optics planet and am trying to figure out how to mount this to my M&P....

I take it I need this part that’s sold separately, right?
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RM45

Not really related, but could I buy a trigger like on my Legion and have it added to the M&P? I LOVE that SRT...
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