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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:30:35 PM EST
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I really really wanted one until I did the research. You can't let them go outside on a hot day without the risk of a heat stroke.
I came to the conclusion that a French Bulldog would be a better choice. Pretty much just as cute. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:31:12 PM EST
[#2]
Lol.
Try pricing a French Bulldog and you’ll be happy with the $2k bargain-bin English one. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:31:58 PM EST
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Was around one occasionally from puppy to about two years old.
He dry humped everything so much he had to have some kind of intervention, he was turning himself inside out. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:34:29 PM EST
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Finding a “reputable” breeder is the most critical factor when looking for a specific “pure bred” dog. They will always offer a full refund/pet warranty.
I’m on my 2nd Doberman, paid well over $2,000 for each - from two different highly respected breeders (papered, AKC 1st generation champion lines). If you care about your chosen breed, do the homework and be prepared to spend the money. Otherwise, adopt. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:35:22 PM EST
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An English bulldog?
English? Who the fuck wants a dog with crooked teeth, a bad disposition, a drinking problem and who is inclined towards public assistance (the dole) and loves fucking soccer? Goddamn pitbulls are nearly free and look almost the same. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:37:42 PM EST
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I paid $3k for my Cane Corso, I guess some breeds are just expensive for no apparent reason lol
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:37:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blame the AKC, any dog that has been bred to where it can't mate/give birth without medical assistance is  derpy.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those dogs are riddled with genetic issues. Blame the AKC, any dog that has been bred to where it can't mate/give birth without medical assistance is derpy.If it was “the AKC’s fault”, the breed would be ever so much different in other countries, but it isn’t. It’s not “the AKC’s fault”, but rather breeders who breed unhealthy specimens because people will throw down money left, right, and center for them, and the people who throw down their money for ill bred animals. For instance, the AKC disqualifies dilute bulldogs from showing because of the associated health issues. Guess which ones command the highest prices and sell like hot cakes? The blues and lavenders and chocolates. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:40:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An English bulldog? English? Who the fuck wants a dog with crooked teeth, a bad disposition, a drinking problem and who is inclined towards public assistance (the dole) and loves fucking soccer? Goddamn pitbulls are nearly free and look almost the same. You have them ALL wrong! They do have crooked teeth, but have a great disposition, love taking naps, snore and are lazy marshmallows who just want belly rubs/ear scratches. Oh, and they have gas that will clear a room.  Total FSA I tell you! |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:54:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have them ALL wrong! They do have crooked teeth, but have a great disposition, love taking naps, snore and are lazy marshmallows who just want belly rubs/ear scratches. Oh, and they have gas that will clear a room. Total FSA I tell you! A Pit Bull is practically the same for $1975 dollars less. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:58:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really really wanted one until I did the research. You can't let them go outside on a hot day without the risk of a heat stroke. I came to the conclusion that a French Bulldog would be a better choice. Pretty much just as cute. Who wants a dog that needs to have their ass wiped after they take a dump? |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 12:59:40 PM EST
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:01:45 PM EST
[#12]
I have 3 corgies....last one was $2200 from MT. The local breeder wanted 3K per pup.
Specific dogs cost $$$, bulldogs have ALWAYS been big money. You know they need to have a c-section just to have a baby right? |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:05:56 PM EST
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My buddy has had 5 english bulldogs. First one had major medical problems to the tune of about 20k. Second one had major medical problems to the tune of 20k. Third one died of pneumonia at 6 months after being in an air chamber for 5 days to the tune of 10k. Replacement puppy died at 4 months from pneumonia after being kept alive in air chamber for 3 days to the tune of 7k. He is now on his 5th. Breeder of two dead puppies took no responsibility, only offered replacement which he didn't want. So he was out $3k on top of the medical bills for two dead puppies. He just got another one that's about 8 months old.
If going through ten years and $50k for 5 dogs sounds awesome, bulldogs are right up your alley. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:07:34 PM EST
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What's wrong with a mal?
I guess you're an apartment dweller who travels a lot? If you're a guy who lives out in the boonies and works from home... malinois. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:14:21 PM EST
[#15]
GSD or Dachshund. German master race ftw.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:17:04 PM EST
[#16]
I paid $2k for my English Bulldog pup with breeder's paperwork. She lived 12 years before dying of cancer. They require a lot of vet visits and surgeries cost a ton. Great dogs but they are a lot of work. Stubborn as hell but you won't find a more loyal and loving breed. Their goofiness will have you rolling on the floor laughing.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:24:08 PM EST
[#17]
Look, if you just want a pet, go down to the animal shelter and adopt one that connects with you.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:27:25 PM EST
[#18]
This is a good dog-
American Staffordshire Terrier Be sure it has paperwork, pedigree, good blood lines, and temperament. PS-An AMSTAFF is NOT a Pitbull. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:38:08 PM EST
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You were talked out a high maintenance dog that's ill suited to your lifestyle, so you've decided to go for an ill-bred disaster of a breed that's absolutely genetically guaranteed to have very expensive health issues, on top of being prohibitively expensive from the outset.
Lol. Here's a tip you're sure to ignore....get a hamster. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:40:08 PM EST
[#20]
Here's one cheaper
 Man steals French dog on camera Boonk Gang |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:41:51 PM EST
[#21]
I have an English bulldog. Paid $1800 bucks for her 5 years ago. All the papers, whatever...
She has been relatively healthy. She is also a TANK. My girls played around with her pretty rough and she's never growled or nipped at them. She is a very kind and loving dog. She does not like strangers going near the girls at all (will growl). Me, she'll leave to be gang raped but don't approach the kids or the wife (which, I guess is a good)... My wife didn't grow up with dogs and is scared of them, but has grown to really love (maybe more of a strong like) ours. She sheds A LOT. Invest in a good vacuum. She is stubborn but I have taught her to walk beside me without a leash. She will not sit on command. She does NOT like the heat. She won't eat cheap kibble food unless I douse it with bacon grease or gravy. Her farts are nuclear. I have her washed/groomed every three weeks. That cuts down on any stinky unpleasantness quite a bit. We know she is a genetic time bomb that could go off at any time. We'll deal with that then. However, she's been a fantastic and loyal friend and is great with my kids. Pic of my girls when they were all babies.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:44:10 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps a rescue dog? And yes, they are very cute. A neighbor owns one and he is awkward as hell but adorable.  Rescue dogs when you need to inherit a problem someone else made. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:44:22 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Try pricing a French Bulldog and you’ll be happy with the $2k bargain-bin English one.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 1:52:22 PM EST
[#24]
@wpsharpshooter
Let’s try this; answer a few questions: 1. What do you want in a dog? What are some important characteristics that you would like your dog to exhibit? 2. What are some things you absolutely will not tolerate in a dog? (This could include specific traits, health issues, breeds you want nothing to do with, etc.) 3. How much are you looking to spend on a dog? (Both initial purchase price and monthly/yearly maintenance and upkeep) 4. What sort of owner are you? Are you laid back, or do you expect immediate obedience and strict discipline? Can you appreciate a dog that thinks outside the box and/or for itself? 5. How active are you? 6. How social are you? Are you constantly having friends over? Do you go out a lot? Are children around? 7. How do you feel about grooming? 8. How do you feel about drool? 9. How do you feel about barking or vocalization? 10. How do you feel about a dog that may be territorial or aggressive with other dogs/people/animals? 11. How much time do you have to train your dog? 12. How much time do you have to exercise your dog? The answers to those questions can help determine which breed is right for you. Pop the answers up, and I can probably find a few breeds that would suit. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 2:16:01 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @wpsharpshooter Let’s try this; answer a few questions: 1. What do you want in a dog? What are some important characteristics that you would like your dog to exhibit? cool little or big furball to hang out with 2. What are some things you absolutely will not tolerate in a dog? (This could include specific traits, health issues, breeds you want nothing to do with, etc.) Not big on one that constantly barks for no reason, Would like to steer away from known health issues 3. How much are you looking to spend on a dog? (Both initial purchase price and monthly/yearly maintenance and upkeep) initial purchase would like to keep under a grand.. 4. What sort of owner are you? Are you laid back, or do you expect immediate obedience and strict discipline? Can you appreciate a dog that thinks outside the box and/or for itself? Laid back.. Out side of house breaking and occasional fetch .. not looking for much 5. How active are you? Not a slouch.. but not a gym rat 6. How social are you? Are you constantly having friends over? Do you go out a lot? Are children around? Daughter is 12.. Not too social 7. How do you feel about grooming? would prefer to leave that to the professionals 8. How do you feel about drool? Not a HUGE fan.. but it wouldnt deter me away 9. How do you feel about barking or vocalization? dogs have to talk... but not ALL the time 10. How do you feel about a dog that may be territorial or aggressive with other dogs/people/animals? Im neutral 11. How much time do you have to train your dog? 1-2 hrs a day 12. How much time do you have to exercise your dog? 1-2 hrs a day The answers to those questions can help determine which breed is right for you. Pop the answers up, and I can probably find a few breeds that would suit. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 2:35:32 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rescue dogs when you need to inherit a problem someone else made. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Perhaps a rescue dog? And yes, they are very cute. A neighbor owns one and he is awkward as hell but adorable. Rescue dogs when you need to inherit a problem someone else made. Don't make the mistake of thinking the "problem" is always on the dog's side. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:00:18 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was wondering if you ended up making the mistake of getting the Mal. Glad you didn't. English Bulldogs are an equally bad choice of dog, just for completely different reasons. OP needs to list other breeds that he might like. OP seems to select questionable breeds. Jump from one dog that would be problematic to another that may be but in different ways. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:13:38 PM EST
[#28]
Wait...
This is the same guy that wanted the Malinois? Oh fuck LOL. Dude, you just want a dog. Go down to the shelter and pick a nice one. You don’t need all this name brand snooty bullshit to have a pet dog. Don’t listen to the “breeders” and “rescuers” those are crazy people. Go find a dog. Avoid pit bulls and mixes. When you are at the shelter/pound use your Google to quickly research traits if the dog you are looking at has an identifiable breed. A good dog is one that’s so mixed up you can’t tell what it is. I call that breed “American Brown Dog” and they are generally just fine. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:13:43 PM EST
[#29]
2k doesn’t surprise me at all. My wife is charging 2k for female chihuahuas with no breeding rights and she is sold out a for at least a year. People pay for pups that aren’t even born. It’s crazy.
She sold a young French bulldog for $5500 last year and that is cheaper than a lot of them. That thing was the biggest PIA. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:15:13 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our current dog is a rescue dog. Her shitty owner bought her as a puppy and basically abandoned her outside on his property. He wanted a dog that would bark to let him know people were coming. She didn't really have much interaction with her owner at all and spent her time roaming around his land. The "problem" started when neighbors with kids moved in, she wanted to play and have some attention so she kept going to the neighbor's property to play with the kids. Eventually this became an issue with the parents of the kids and they complained and the shitty owner handed her over to a rescue. She was 8 months old when the rescue got her, and we met her a week or so later. She was immediately friendly with us and over the course of a couple hours it was easy to see she was bright, alert, engaged, friendly, and affectionate. We took her home and worked on some of the behavioral basics she missed out on since she hadn't really been around people for most of her life. It didn't take long for her to settle right in and she's a wonderful dog. Don't make the mistake of thinking the "problem" is always on the dog's side. I bet you have one of those "who rescued who" bumper stickers. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:15:28 PM EST
[#31]
OP went from high strung, to terrible medical issues. Try a black lab or a golden retriever OP.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:18:24 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @wpsharpshooter Let’s try this; answer a few questions: 1. What do you want in a dog? What are some important characteristics that you would like your dog to exhibit? cool little or big furball to hang out with 2. What are some things you absolutely will not tolerate in a dog? (This could include specific traits, health issues, breeds you want nothing to do with, etc.) Not big on one that constantly barks for no reason, Would like to steer away from known health issues 3. How much are you looking to spend on a dog? (Both initial purchase price and monthly/yearly maintenance and upkeep) initial purchase would like to keep under a grand.. 4. What sort of owner are you? Are you laid back, or do you expect immediate obedience and strict discipline? Can you appreciate a dog that thinks outside the box and/or for itself? Laid back.. Out side of house breaking and occasional fetch .. not looking for much 5. How active are you? Not a slouch.. but not a gym rat 6. How social are you? Are you constantly having friends over? Do you go out a lot? Are children around? Daughter is 12.. Not too social 7. How do you feel about grooming? would prefer to leave that to the professionals 8. How do you feel about drool? Not a HUGE fan.. but it wouldnt deter me away 9. How do you feel about barking or vocalization? dogs have to talk... but not ALL the time 10. How do you feel about a dog that may be territorial or aggressive with other dogs/people/animals? Im neutral 11. How much time do you have to train your dog? 1-2 hrs a day 12. How much time do you have to exercise your dog? 1-2 hrs a day The answers to those questions can help determine which breed is right for you. Pop the answers up, and I can probably find a few breeds that would suit. These days, you will be very hard pressed to find a responsibly bred dog for under a grand, but here are a few breeds that you could look at that aren’t typically super expensive Greyhound  Saluki  Borzoi  Dachshund  Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen  Glen of Imaal Terrier 
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:20:55 PM EST
[#33]
I bought a grand champion sired English Bulldog puppy that was 8 weeks old for $2500. He literally dropped dead right in front of me at 10.5 weeks old. Autopsy report said he suddenly died, so the breeder said not their problem. They're cool dogs, but I really don't recommend getting one because of the potential health problems.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:25:22 PM EST
[#34]
Ok which is it? USC fan or Clemson? Bc only one of those two fans would smack talk an English Bulldog that bad! ????????
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:35:05 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i don't see many dachshunds under a grand. I don't think i would buy one for under that either. If the goal is to save money a cheap purebred may end up with a lot of medical issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These days, you will be very hard pressed to find a responsibly bred dog for under a grand, but here are a few breeds that you could look at that aren’t typically super expensive Greyhound https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn-origin-etr.akc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/03144613/Greyhound-standing-stacked-outdoors.20200426001712574.jpg Saluki https://petkeen.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/saluki.jpeg Borzoi https://photos.smugmug.com/Sylvan-Borzoi/Springbok/i-kTr86Mf/0/a25ef587/L/Spring%20pond%20Sept%202-L.jpg Dachshund https://formydachshund.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Depositphotos_348260676_slowmotiongli-800x600.jpg Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen https://wds2018.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Petit-Basset-griffon-vendeen.jpg Glen of Imaal Terrier https://vetstreet-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com/66/d9/6c2bf284453596dfdad5b325680f/glen-of-imaal-terrier-ap-0jllm0.jpg i don't see many dachshunds under a grand. I don't think i would buy one for under that either. If the goal is to save money a cheap purebred may end up with a lot of medical issues. I did mention that it would be hard to find one under a grand, but that those were some “less expensive” options. Most of those are in the $1200-1500 range. Mini dachshunds tend to be a lot more expensive than standards due to litter size and demand. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:35:58 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you have one of those "who rescued who" bumper stickers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our current dog is a rescue dog. Her shitty owner bought her as a puppy and basically abandoned her outside on his property. He wanted a dog that would bark to let him know people were coming. She didn't really have much interaction with her owner at all and spent her time roaming around his land. The "problem" started when neighbors with kids moved in, she wanted to play and have some attention so she kept going to the neighbor's property to play with the kids. Eventually this became an issue with the parents of the kids and they complained and the shitty owner handed her over to a rescue. She was 8 months old when the rescue got her, and we met her a week or so later. She was immediately friendly with us and over the course of a couple hours it was easy to see she was bright, alert, engaged, friendly, and affectionate. We took her home and worked on some of the behavioral basics she missed out on since she hadn't really been around people for most of her life. It didn't take long for her to settle right in and she's a wonderful dog. Don't make the mistake of thinking the "problem" is always on the dog's side. I bet you have one of those "who rescued who" bumper stickers. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:38:40 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok which is it? USC fan or Clemson? Bc only one of those two fans would smack talk an English Bulldog that bad! ???????? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/511754/68BE4BB9-4FE7-4174-A885-87C2DA94F935-2004101.jpg Now that's a first post! |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:51:05 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that's a first post! Well, my intention was to be clever and reply to user Rock71 for bashing English Bulldogs but it was an epic fail Bc it didn’t attach original quote ??. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 3:58:26 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, my intention was to be clever and reply to user Rock71 for bashing English Bulldogs but it was an epic fail Bc it didn’t attach original quote ??. Go Dawgs. I guess.  |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:04:45 PM EST
[#41]
Since you’re in TN, how close are you to Huntsville, AL?
My in-laws bought one from a breeder in Guntersville, AL, which is not far from Huntsville. Try to do a Google search for that area. He’s been a good pup. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:05:53 PM EST
[#42]
$2k is average around here for a bulldog
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:07:08 PM EST
[#43]
In the Puget Sound area, pure bred miniature Australian Shepherd pups (AKA American Shepherds) cost between $1500-2200. Show quality dogs will run a bit more.
Pure bred dogs aren't cheap. We tried dog rescue, but after contacting three different dog rescue sites where fees for rescue were $300-500, we didn't even get a call back from any of them. We were open to various breeds, sex, and sizes...still no call back. So much for trying rescue. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:33:54 PM EST
[#44]
Get a real dog OP
One that can actually give birth on it's own without intervention from humans. One that can do stuff with you like hike or run. There are a lot of great breeds out there, maybe give BMCs a chance since you live in the south. The wife convinced me to get one a little while ago and it has been an absolutely phenomenal dog. Cost of pup + flight for wife to pick it up from the breeder in Georgia came in under 2k. When we first got her:  Attached File7 months and 40ish lbs later  Attached FileFull grown she will be around 90 lbs. Will be sticking with BMCs in the future. Smart, relatively easy to train, friendly - but not overly so. Only warning is they definitely need daily exercise. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:45:01 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Try pricing a French Bulldog and you’ll be happy with the $2k bargain-bin English one. My kid drove from WI to TN last weekend to pick up a Frenchie. He felt he got a good deal at $2400.  Mutts for me. Nothing but the best.
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:51:04 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go Dawgs. I guess. I seem to be as dumb as my teams mascot! But I’m catching on ??. Go Dawgs! |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:52:28 PM EST
[#47]
1k vs 2k purchase price < ownership cost.
Purchase price < vet visits, food, flea & tick Let's say dog lives 10 years. 10x365 = 3,650 days $2,000 ÷ 3,650 = .55 55 cents a day to have dog you want. Vet, food, ect... will cost more than .55 cents day. CDW4ME math. 
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Posted: 7/6/2021 4:52:48 PM EST
[#48]
It is cheaper to own a Mercedes than an English bulldog.
That was told to me by a vet. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 5:03:04 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a lot to pay for a dog, especially a genetic dead end. I paid $500 for a GSD puppy recently. No way would I pay more than that, I don't care how awesome the dog was. That is too cheap for a well bred dog. |
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Posted: 7/6/2021 5:12:51 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is too cheap for a well bred dog. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's a lot to pay for a dog, especially a genetic dead end. I paid $500 for a GSD puppy recently. No way would I pay more than that, I don't care how awesome the dog was. That is too cheap for a well bred dog. It is. Funny that she comments on genetic dead ends when she bought a Tasco edition of a breed known to have serious health issues if not bred very, very responsibly (which comes with associated higher cost due to the extensive amount of testing and work that goes into responsibly breeding them). |
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