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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:03:45 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: wakeboarder strikes again He can't keep getting away with this.  
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:05:38 PM EST
[#2]
If you think you made a mistake in your sex life, it is now rape?
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:06:22 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Her entire shtick when I've heard her speak is faith, morality, and family values. This seems to miss the mark a bit on that as long as she votes on bills the way i want her too, i don't give a fuck what she does in her bedroom with consenting adults. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:06:37 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm 40 and realize the bullshit that is "taught" in public schools. unless she was black out drunk it is bullshit. otherwise probably at least 95% of men out there are rapist and should be put in prison. The same thing was taught in college level criminal law and EMS classes (as far as consent when intoxicated applies to medical care). Whether you agree or not it is a standard that is widely accepted and guys have, and do, get locked up for it. At minimum it was a stupid decision on his part |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:07:38 PM EST
[#5]
My guess, mommy was re-living her lipstick lesbian college years, someone muscled in on the relationship to turn it into a threesome, and why the problem now that someone is looking for the payout that they did not get from before.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:08:14 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The same thing was taught in college level criminal law and EMS classes (as far as consent when intoxicated applies to medical care). Whether you agree or not it is a standard that is widely accepted and guys have, and do, get locked up for it. At minimum it was a stupid decision on his part medical care is far different than what happens in your private bedroom. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:08:41 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i'm 40 and realize the bullshit that is "taught" in public schools. unless she was black out drunk it is bullshit. otherwise probably at least 95% of men out there are rapist and should be put in prison. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not sure why people are struggling with this concept. I'm in my 40s and have been told this since high school, altered mental status voids ability to consent, intoxication is classified as altered mental status, so there's no consent when she's intoxicated i'm 40 and realize the bullshit that is "taught" in public schools. unless she was black out drunk it is bullshit. otherwise probably at least 95% of men out there are rapist and should be put in prison. If merely intoxication removes ones ability to consent, she raped him as well if he had a drink. Do the rapes offset or do they both do time? Or do we realize people still consented to consume a substance that lowers inhibitions they are accepting they might do things they regret later? It should be obvious to anyone with half a functional brain cell the line is not at .08. If this dude climbed on her passed out body and had at it yeah she didnt consent. In this case with a multi year relationship what kind of proof can she bring to court to prove her claims? Did she get a BAC test done that night? A police report? A rape kit? Anything official? If not why? Was she having mixed feelings about it? Was she mad the man wouldnt leave his wife? There are a pile of variables at play. Thanks to MeToo I'm of the opinion if you didnt get the tests and collect the evidence then I cant believe you now. You must have not thought it important enough at that time. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:08:54 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think you made a mistake in your sex life, it is now rape? apparently that is what is being taught in school these days. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:09:03 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: as long as she votes on bills the way i want her too, i don't give a fuck what she does in her bedroom with consenting adults. Yes, I get it. However, that doesn't mean the rest of us are interested in backing hypocrisy and degeneracy |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:10:32 PM EST
[#10]
AGGHHHHH
Gotta save the kids but a threesome is too damn tempty! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:10:50 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a pile of variables at play. Thanks to MeToo I'm of the opinion if you didnt get the tests and collect the evidence then I cant believe you now. You must have not thought it important enough at that time. and remember the Dems pushed MeToo hard till a Virginia Dem got accused of Sexual Assault and the whole party stood behind him so the senate wouldn't switch to Republicans. even while it came out the "anti-racist" gov had dawned Black Face before and wouldn't resign for that either. but they want me to turn against a Republican for consensual threesome sex. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:11:01 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think you made a mistake in your sex life, it is now rape? Was I raped if I banged a random chick at a party and she didnt tell me she was on her period and I got blood on my shirt? Thats the level of ridiculousness we have risen too. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:11:27 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, I get it. However, that doesn't mean the rest of us are interested in backing hypocrisy and degeneracy if you have ever voted for a politician you support hypocrisy and degeneracy. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:11:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you support due process? Due process with trials and evidence and jury deliberation and verdict is for legal proceedings. People can be terminated or required to resign from a private concern with evidence falling short of proof beyond a shadow of doubt. Like acknowledged 3-way affair and videos of this. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:11:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why? consenting adults can have threesomes and still not want kids to be groomed in elementary school  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He and his wife should both be tarred and feathered and run out of the state for their hypocrisy. Instead the faux conservatives excuse their degeneracy and continue to ruin the GOP. The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:11:58 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: medical care is far different than what happens in your private bedroom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The same thing was taught in college level criminal law and EMS classes (as far as consent when intoxicated applies to medical care). Whether you agree or not it is a standard that is widely accepted and guys have, and do, get locked up for it. At minimum it was a stupid decision on his part medical care is far different than what happens in your private bedroom. Whatever dude, you just want to argue and I have no time for it because you obviously have no ability to grasp what actually happens beyond "I don't agree with it so it reeeeeee" |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:12:54 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. they are already here |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:15:45 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How about a trial before we convict? Having judgment is not the same as passing judgment. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:25:31 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was I raped if I banged a random chick at a party and she didnt tell me she was on her period and I got blood on my shirt? Thats the level of ridiculousness we have risen too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you think you made a mistake in your sex life, it is now rape? Was I raped if I banged a random chick at a party and she didnt tell me she was on her period and I got blood on my shirt? Thats the level of ridiculousness we have risen too. Look at guys who've been convicted of sexual assault because they slipped the condom off, or the condom broke and they kept going, and the girl cries rape because she didn’t *consent* to that even though the sex was consensual. But a girl can lie about being on birth control and trick a guy into an 18 year financial commitment and that's totally ok. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:30:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at guys who've been convicted of sexual assault because they slipped the condom off, or the condom broke and they kept going, and the girl cries rape because she didn’t *consent* to that even though the sex was consensual. But a girl can lie about being on birth control and trick a guy into an 18 year financial commitment and that's totally ok. i don't want to consent to having sex with someone who is out their fucking other people, possibly bringing me diseases, behind my back but that's still legal. and i can promise you if some Tranny tricked you into sexual acts a liberal prosecutor wouldn't prosecute them for sexual assault/rape because you couldn't consent. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:32:45 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Image? Imagine looking for a fight so bad or wanting to see what you've written so profusely, that you ignore anything after the first sentence from someone else's post. Since you're incapable of actually reading anything more than 5 words or so, I'll fill you in: Or maybe he's old money doesn't have SHIT to do with looks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Image thinking that women are more interested in looks than success. Image? Imagine looking for a fight so bad or wanting to see what you've written so profusely, that you ignore anything after the first sentence from someone else's post. Quoted: Or maybe he's old money, I don't know. Since you're incapable of actually reading anything more than 5 words or so, I'll fill you in: Or maybe he's old money doesn't have SHIT to do with looks. Lol |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:51:30 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He and his wife should both be tarred and feathered and run out of the state for their hypocrisy. Instead the faux conservatives excuse their degeneracy and continue to ruin the GOP. The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. They are already in here. 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:03:04 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it an affair if his wife is involved? Stop demanding people step down for not living to your standard. I agree due process needs to play out, if they have hte evidence to convict so be it. If not he walks and should keep his positions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This idiot took video of them having sex, and uploaded it to his Google drive. Investigators have the video. Wife told detectives she was involved in a sexual encounter with him and the woman. https://flcga.org/listen-911-tape-released-in-criminal-investigation-of-florida-gop-chairman-christian-ziegler-she-told-me-she-was-raped-yesterday-and-shes-scared-to-leave-her-house/ Now we have more of the story. He had sex with the victim. She claims rape. He recorded it and uploaded it to his google drive. Rape aside, he should step down for having an affair. Let the cops investigate the rape and go from there. Is it an affair if his wife is involved? Stop demanding people step down for not living to your standard. I agree due process needs to play out, if they have hte evidence to convict so be it. If not he walks and should keep his positions. Is a side piece really against the bible? Weren't concubines generally accepted?
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:08:57 PM EST
[#24]
The Republican Party of Florida will promote the principles upon which our nation and our state were founded: freedom, liberty, personal responsibility, and accountability. We will advocate fiscally-sound, common-sense solutions that will promote job and economic growth, provide the best education to our children, and create a path to prosperity for Florida and America. Members of the Republican Party of Florida will be united by these principles and will work to elect Floridians with integrity who will work to enact such solutions. We will seek to be the most effective state party in the nation and serve as a model for other party organizations
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:11:38 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again the difference you miss is consenting ADULTS. I don't miss it at all. I do not care what consenting adults do. Adults in a position of authority is the difference that YOU seem to miss. One can be an immoral POS without integrity and I don't care. What I don't want is the same immoral POS legislating or running our schools. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:19:39 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't miss it at all. I do not care what consenting adults do. Adults in a position of authority is the difference that YOU seem to miss. One can be an immoral POS without integrity and I don't care. What I don't want is the same immoral POS legislating or running our schools. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Again the difference you miss is consenting ADULTS. I don't miss it at all. I do not care what consenting adults do. Adults in a position of authority is the difference that YOU seem to miss. One can be an immoral POS without integrity and I don't care. What I don't want is the same immoral POS legislating or running our schools.  Well your choices are either: 1. Bridget, the hot conservative milf who eats a little pussy at night but fights to protect childrens' innocence during the day or 2. Dawnyelle, the frumpy LGBT social justice warrior who does gay shit 24/7 and wants your 5 year old to read books about gay shit so they can grow up to do gay shit too Pick one. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:28:56 PM EST
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As far as I am aware - the video has not hit pornhub yet. We don't even know what the fuck the affair was. It might have been non-sexual (other than rape being accused). It might have been girl on girl sexual and him just enjoying the show - if you can't stop them, just enjoy the show-especially if the show is worth watching. Especially if the flip side is a divorce that neither of you really want. Perhaps he watched, and was invited in so everyone could have a happy ending (and his happy ending was with his wife).
I don't know what happened, I certainly don't know if a crime was involved, and I don't know what I would do in the same situation. Everyone's wife has a few fairly hot friends right? So a friend helps rev up your wife for you - is it really that bad? --- I am being lazy - but can someone remind me the exact bible passage that prevents women from carpet munching? I am sure it is there if you de-gender the bible, but most of the rules basically speak from the men's perspective. Many dealt with inheritance law - and how it would be theft if your wife tried to have someone else's kid inherit. Hell, the sin of Odan was because if he impregnated his wife (which was his brother's widow) the heir would be his brother's and he would not be able to steal that estate. --- My wife freaked out because we essentially have inlaws that have a convulted open relationship. Essentially, Son-in-law's parents are still married and both have girlfriends. Wife did not have much issue with the wife's girlfriend, but was not happy meeting the husband's. I understand, in general, that my wife does not approve of open relationships - but it seems she only really does not approve of the man being involved. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:30:52 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted for Trump Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How can Desantis run a country if he can’t even run his own state’s political party? Do you support due process? I voted for Trump What you did. I see it. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:49:09 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Part of Rules for Radicals was forcing your enemy to play by his own rule book while you completely ignore it. As long as people like Hunter are walking around freely, we should be more worried about winning than ethics. But instead we're doing things like expelling Santos while the House is on razor-thin margins.  Agreed! When they mess up, the whole party will circle the wagons and defend whomever and whatever it is. We on the other hand hold this noble idea that we should be playing nice and fair and take the high road. They don't, why should we!?! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:33:55 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL. Degenerate behavior by public servants as fine as long as it isn’t in the open, but fuck LGBTQ because they do their thing in the open. Hypocrisy, defined. How is it hypocrisy with two different set of circumstances? Hypocrisy would be doing the same thing. Consenting adults in the bedroom is equal to drag shows with children in the open how? Think you need to recalibrate. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:35:49 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is it hypocrisy with two different set of circumstances? Hypocrisy would be doing the same thing. Consenting adults in the bedroom is equal to drag shows with children in the open how? Think you need to recalibrate. it's honestly baffling how people can conflate the two. if this guy and his wife were bringing school children into the bedroom it would be different. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:16:36 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He and his wife should both be tarred and feathered and run out of the state for their hypocrisy. Instead the faux conservatives excuse their degeneracy and continue to ruin the GOP. The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. Let he who has never pounded 2 chicks at the same time cast the first stone |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:24:32 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let he who has never pounded 2 chicks at the same time cast the first stone Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He and his wife should both be tarred and feathered and run out of the state for their hypocrisy. Instead the faux conservatives excuse their degeneracy and continue to ruin the GOP. The GD Puritans will be along shortly to tell you why you're a piece of shit. Let he who has never pounded 2 chicks at the same time cast the first stone That one GD Stud :Dude she sat on my face, while the other one went full cowgirl on my D while they made out!! GD: Your faggotry sickitates me. Also GD: Grab her by the pussy. Also also GD: Hey now, that's somebody's daughter. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:26:29 PM EST
[#34]
I didn’t read everything but do we even know the three way occurred? I mean real evidence?
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:26:48 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: medical care is far different than what happens in your private bedroom. You’ve never been in my bedroom. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:32:18 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so him and his wife had a years long 'friends with benefits' thing going with this other chick, then she decided to cry rape? no, that doesn't sounds like bullshit at all |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:37:52 PM EST
[#37]
Pics of the side piece??!
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:47:04 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: #BelieveNoWomen I also don't believe men. I believe facts. Present them or shut the fuck up. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:49:00 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to live in a nation governed by people of high character. Is that too much to ask? If it condemns the current system is it still too much to ask? this comes to mind Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free john adams some wonder why our nation slips away and im no Saint but I know I need to fix that. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:54:42 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How can Desantis run a country if he can’t even run his own state’s political party? I am going to ask you a big WHAT THE FUCK Just say now you are voting for biden |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 7:02:14 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for him in not resigning. If you can get your rivals to quit based on allegations, expect a lot of allegations. There is no honor among leftists, always assume they are lying and you’ll be right exponentially more often than you are wrong. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:50:34 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "On the day of the alleged assault, the woman had initially agreed to meet because she thought Bridget Ziegler would be joining them. She canceled when she learned Bridget Ziegler wouldn’t be there, saying she had only agreed to the encounter because she wanted her there. Video surveillance footage, reviewed by police, showed that Christian Ziegler went to her residence anyway. As she was exiting her apartment to walk her dog, the woman alleged that Christian Ziegler entered her home and had sex with her without a condom. She told police she couldn’t consent because she had been drinking alcohol, as it was her day off work." How can you consent to fuck 2 people if you've been drinking alcohol, but can't consent to fuck 1? ?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uhhh....that lady acusing him is gonna need some serious evidence because it was a 3 way and she's not acusing the lady also. At least the republicans are not being fuckin sqaures anymore. "On the day of the alleged assault, the woman had initially agreed to meet because she thought Bridget Ziegler would be joining them. She canceled when she learned Bridget Ziegler wouldn’t be there, saying she had only agreed to the encounter because she wanted her there. Video surveillance footage, reviewed by police, showed that Christian Ziegler went to her residence anyway. As she was exiting her apartment to walk her dog, the woman alleged that Christian Ziegler entered her home and had sex with her without a condom. She told police she couldn’t consent because she had been drinking alcohol, as it was her day off work." How can you consent to fuck 2 people if you've been drinking alcohol, but can't consent to fuck 1? ?? If he only would have worn a condom, she would not have made a to do about it. that's why I always wear them...even in college when the women would beg for me not to. I knew better. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:51:56 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How can Desantis run a country if he can’t even run his own state’s political party? Because the GOP runs DeSantis.... |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:53:02 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What gals would look at him, and think: "I gotta get me some of that!". https://www.heraldtribune.com/gcdn/presto/2021/10/19/NSHT/575428cb-3aea-4670-9a12-7e229fca03d2-SAR_102021_REDISTRICTING_009.jpg?width=330&height=396&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp I know, that porker is unfuckable... Why is it all the unfuckable people doing the nude beaches, 3-somes, etc...??? 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:53:17 PM EST
[#45]
Holding judgement. The Left has made up so much crazy shit to take people out, I don't believe any of it anymore
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:55:03 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it all the unfuckable people doing the nude beaches, 3-somes, etc...??? it's been my experience so far that most women place a man's wealth above looks when deciding mates. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:57:56 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is an ALLEGATION. Why should he quit? Is DeSantis a #believeallwomen bitch now? Let EVERYONE be innocent until proven guilty. I'm real glad Gaetz didn't give into it. Or Kennedy (LA) |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:58:44 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what the other chick looks like? Rite? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:17:36 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it's been my experience so far that most women place a man's wealth above looks when deciding mates. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why is it all the unfuckable people doing the nude beaches, 3-somes, etc...??? it's been my experience so far that most women place a man's wealth above looks when deciding mates. Annnnnnd..... That's why I have an education and career - cuz I don't wanna be forced to settle to have my bills paid....  I wanna fuck by choice, not by necessity... |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 1:27:01 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so him and his wife had a years long 'friends with benefits' thing going with this other chick, then she decided to cry rape? no, that doesn't sounds like bullshit at all |
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