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I believe Burry’s 13F showed he bought puts on the stock, not that he shorted it. Either way it’s a bearish bet and unless he entered at the perfect time and exit already (at the perfect time) he is most likely down in that trade. Betting against two companies that have government as a tailwind is a bold move. Having the president of the United States like you or not seems to be able to overcome most opposing sentiments. I feel like Burry hit a home run betting against the housing market leading up to the great recession and is desperate to make another huge move betting against something that has near universal momentum. |
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Originally Posted By rtlm: I thought that was a great interview, I also bought a few shares. Originally Posted By rtlm: Originally Posted By Procat: Any of you guys following Palantir client Red Cat / $RCAT? Defense drone manufacturer with a $1.3B market cap. Saw an interview with CEO Jeff Thompson and it seemed pretty interesting. Grabbed a few shares just to keep an eye on it. I thought that was a great interview, I also bought a few shares. Hoping it has hit it's 3 month bottom. 
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"I got this. We'll skip the dicks" DK-Prof 12/7/21
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Originally Posted By rtlm: Hoping it has hit it's 3 month bottom. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/rcat-3654309.jpg Agreed, $5 would be ideal. |
 Michael Burry’s Big Bet Backfires? ?? Jon Najarian Breaks Down his PLTR & NVDA Puts |
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Whole market is going down - but Palantir is definitely under attack. Tons of chatter on X, at least half of it against Palantir, promising it's going to go down, annihilate itself - that investors should get out. Terrorism. Having fun blocking tons of dipshits. It's never been easy for Palantir - never will it be. Definitely a moment of tension. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Whole market is going down - but Palantir is definitely under attack. Tons of chatter on X, at least half of it against Palantir, promising it's going to go down, annihilate itself - that investors should get out. Terrorism. Having fun blocking tons of dipshits. It's never been easy for Palantir - never will it be. Definitely a moment of tension. Watching Karp now in a live interview. Bought a lil more PLTU 
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"I got this. We'll skip the dicks" DK-Prof 12/7/21
Great speech by Karp while accepting the Herman Kahn award. Shyam Sankar gave the introduction touching on such classics as fentanyl laced urine drones and what makes a French restaurant superior. Karp actually seemed like he was getting choked up thanking Shyam for his praise.  Palantir CEO Alex Karp receives the Herman Kahn Award | Hudson Institute |
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Originally Posted By Procat: Great speech by Karp while accepting the Herman Kahn award. Shyam Sankar gave the introduction touching on such classics as fentanyl laced urine drones and what makes a French restaurant superior. Karp actually seemed like he was getting choked up thanking Shyam for his praise.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JbKTwDqkKI |
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Big Tech lost ~10% in two days. Palantir at about -5% in pre-market, more pain in sight. Attached File |
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I can help but feel like this might be some manipulation at an epic scale. Of course there are labor market concerns and the probability of a December rate cut is going down but hear me out: The “buy the dip” trade has worked out big time for retail the past 2 years. As smart money sold off the market retail bought it up and the big guys had to buy back higher or sit out on some of the runs we’ve seen. The majority of money managers aren’t keeping pace with the S&P at this point and are probably under tremendous pressure as the end of the year draws close. With the recent government shutdown and job market worries their algorithm driven sell off is working this time: retail seems to be sitting this one out, stop losses are being triggered, margin calls being made, ect and everything seems to be in free fall. Have a sneaking suspicion that these same players will likely soon go on a buying spree and we’ll see a (deeper than recently) V shaped recovery as Tom Lee often talks about. This mixed with a potential end of year pump would allow these big players to save their numbers for the year, bonuses get paid, ect. Or I’m wrong. Just thinking out loud. |
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Originally Posted By Procat: I can help but feel like this might be some manipulation at an epic scale. Of course there are labor market concerns and the probability of a December rate cut is going down but hear me out: The "buy the dip" trade has worked out big time for retail the past 2 years. As smart money sold off the market retail bought it up and the big guys had to buy back higher or sit out on some of the runs we've seen. The majority of money managers aren't keeping pace with the S&P at this point and are probably under tremendous pressure as the end of the year draws close. With the recent government shutdown and job market worries their algorithm driven sell off is working this time: retail seems to be sitting this one out, stop losses are being triggered, margin calls being made, ect and everything seems to be in free fall. Have a sneaking suspicion that these same players will likely soon go on a buying spree and we'll see a (deeper than recently) V shaped recovery as Tom Lee often talks about. This mixed with a potential end of year pump would allow these big players to save their numbers for the year, bonuses get paid, ect. Or I'm wrong. Just thinking out loud. And you're NOT just spouting air, you know the managers are under pressure. We heard of that. Their algos ARE in selling mode. I think yours is plain good thinking - and even if it weren't, I am going to keep it as a good thought in my mind. See you here - later Bro Fil @procat What you just said, written into an X post (I can NOT embed anymore, I don't know why) Market Red Reasons |
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Originally Posted By Procat: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/489576/IMG_5214_jpeg-3672948.JPG Incredible. |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Up, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326068/Screenshot_2025-12-10_at_14_20_42_png-3673272.JPG Hit refresh bro |
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Retail investing legend Chris Camillo did the My First Million podcast a few days ago. For those unfamiliar he has averaged around 70% annual return over 18 years. Awesome listen in the car or gym and definitely worth giving it 1.5 hours of your time. Around the 45 minute mark he talks about going in big on Palantir around $30 when lots of people thought the run had already been missed. I found the last 20 minutes or so very interesting as he made the case that everyone should have a portion of their portfolio for high risk / high reward plays.  He Went From $20K to $70M Using a Strategy Anyone Can Learn |
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Originally Posted By Procat: Retail investing legend Chris Camillo did the My First Million podcast a few days ago. For those unfamiliar he has averaged around 70% annual return over 18 years. Awesome listen in the car or gym and definitely worth giving it 1.5 hours of your time. Around the 45 minute mark he talks about going in big on Palantir around $30 when lots of people thought the run had already been missed. I found the last 20 minutes or so very interesting as he made the case that everyone should have a portion of their portfolio for high risk / high reward plays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdChG9FPs80Chris Camillo is the man. . . if you look back when he went on the Iced Coffee Hour (Graham Stephan's show) back during the tariff debacle the guy's advice is beyond sage. When he picks a winner in the robotics front, I want to follow. I'll give this a watch later, but candidly I'm starting to think I may trim my PLTR position a bit before the next earnings call. Not a lot but maybe trim 10% to 15% |
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake: I'm starting to think I may trim my PLTR position a bit before the next earnings call. Not a lot but maybe trim 10% to 15% Originally Posted By JThompson: Everyone riding out Palantir another year? I think went up 400% since it was purchased. Leveling off or still going strong this year? I took my original investment off the table back in the summer. Around half of what’s left is set to get sold via ITM covered calls here in a few weeks. I thought about rolling the contracts out but I think I’m going to just take the $ and move it into something else. What remains will probably fall into the hold forever category. |
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Originally Posted By JThompson: Everyone riding out Palantir another year? I think went up 400% since it was purchased. Leveling off or still going strong this year? No I decided to bail out with a decent little loss for tax harvesting. I made very good gains before. I just don't see it being a darling like before for another year. Figured I'd roll money into rklb and save it for space x IPO. |
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Hell, a Ford just breaks down on you. It doesn't fall apart AND try to kill you at the same time-Bloodsport2885
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Originally Posted By JThompson: Everyone riding out Palantir another year? I think went up 400% since it was purchased. Leveling off or still going strong this year? It's on my board for liquidation probably 2031-2032 as they should be critical mass by then with 836 shares. Probably use the proceeds to fill a few buckets or do conversions. Unless of course things goes sideways and someone knocks off their leader or he and Thiel have a falling out. |
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Originally Posted By JThompson: Everyone riding out Palantir another year? I think went up 400% since it was purchased. Leveling off or still going strong this year? |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Many have alleged that either or both Palantir's platforms (Maven, Gotham) have been used during the Venezuelan operation. This seems to have somewhat 'leaked' and $PLTR is currently up at least 4% Would love to see it back over $200 soon 
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Originally Posted By Procat: Truist Securities initiated coverage with a buy rating and $223 price target. Those gov contracts are sticky. I'm on the fence about holding, but leaning towards it |
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Originally Posted By Solo_: Many have alleged that either or both Palantir's platforms (Maven, Gotham) have been used during the Venezuelan operation. This seems to have somewhat 'leaked' and $PLTR is currently up at least 4% The thought hasn't crossed my mind, but a day will come where the mainstream media reports that a PLTR drone was used to find or hit a target, a photo of PLTR hardware on the battlefield is published, or the mainstream non-shadowy military fields quantities of some PLTR hardware. When that happens everybody will probably wish they had bought more PLTR when it was sub-$200! |
UK MoD about to spend 240M$ worth of Palantir,
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Originally Posted By Solo_: UK MoD about to spend 240M$ worth of Palantir,
Is this for before or after we invade Greenland? 
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Originally Posted By BM1455: Is this for before or after we invade Greenland? Update
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This will have some consequences,
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Originally Posted By Solo_: This will have some consequences,
A quick google....... The top U.S. military contractor stocks, based on market cap and consistent rankings, include Lockheed Martin (LMT), RTX (RTX), and Northrop Grumman (NOC), often followed closely by General Dynamics (GD) and Boeing (BA). These giants dominate the industry through major defense contracts, with RTX (formerly Raytheon) and Lockheed Martin frequently leading in revenue and market size, while Northrop Grumman excels in aerospace/defense tech and General Dynamics in naval/ground systems. Do we start buying now? |
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Originally Posted By JThompson: A quick google....... The top U.S. military contractor stocks, based on market cap and consistent rankings, include Lockheed Martin (LMT), RTX (RTX), and Northrop Grumman (NOC), often followed closely by General Dynamics (GD) and Boeing (BA). These giants dominate the industry through major defense contracts, with RTX (formerly Raytheon) and Lockheed Martin frequently leading in revenue and market size, while Northrop Grumman excels in aerospace/defense tech and General Dynamics in naval/ground systems. Do we start buying now? Fidelity Defense and Aerospace Portfolio. Looking good. Could it do another 50% this year????? High expense ratio but if returning 50%, I wouldn't mind. Attached File |
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| I’m wondering what impact Trump’s statement about defense contractors and dividends / stock buybacks has on Palantir. I don’t know that they ever completed the $1B buyback that was authorized several years ago. There’s always money to be spent but its not like you can force a company to invest in their own manufacturing capacity when they’re not a manufacturer. |
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Originally Posted By Procat: I’m wondering what impact Trump’s statement about defense contractors and dividends / stock buybacks has on Palantir. I don’t know that they ever completed the $1B buyback that was authorized several years ago. There’s always money to be spent but its not like you can force a company to invest in their own manufacturing capacity when they’re not a manufacturer. The large defense companies and their long lead times that Trump is complaining about are a byproduct of the defense acquisition process - there is no incentive for either the company or the .gov to work faster, while there is incentive for the people on both sides to avoid working faster (more $$$ for the contractor and more job security for the .gov employees). Companies that are some combination of younger/smaller/privately owned work much faster by their very nature. They attract people who want to figure things out and get results, while Boeing and the .gov attract lots of people who want to sit back and collect a paycheck. I'm a big believer in "new space" and "new defense" because they are the ones producing the stuff everybody wants. My biggest complaint is that most of the companies are privately owned. I've gotten into and out of PLTR twice over about 1.5 years with great results, been selling puts to get back in but they're never executing! |
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Agreed @Morgan321 I can’t help but think about the recent strikes in Nigeria where several Tomahawk missiles failed to detonate. At the same time a company like Rocket Lab can launch satellites into low earth orbit and hit a 3 dimensional target location within a few meters with a 100% success rate in 2025. The system is broken and needs overhauled. Hopefully innovative hardware companies like Anduril can continue to grow without regulations meant to reign in the legacy players hurting investment into them. |
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Originally Posted By Procat: The system is broken and needs overhauled. Hopefully innovative hardware companies like Anduril can continue to grow without regulations meant to reign in the legacy players hurting investment into them. The issue is that the "system" uses bureaucracy and red tape as a means to accomplish everything. It eschews personal responsibility so that responsibility is socialized across the system. You need some of this as insurance against having single points of failure in individuals (who die, quit, etc) but in the extreme the result is bloat and schedules that extend decades into the future. Beyond sheer willpower, the biggest advantage "new space" and "new defense" have are that they are producing new products with new technology, neither of which have entrenched bureaucracy. I think the "get things done" mindset is part of why many of these companies remain privately owned - Musk, Lukey, Thornton, etc. all have more money than they can ever spend and they don't care about getting more, they want to accomplish things. Going public is a massive black hole that will suck their attention forever and they will lose some control of their company. None of them want that so they will avoid going public for as long as possible. ETA: in the meantime I sold PLTR puts at $150 and $170 that expire tomorrow. |
Interesting take from Palmer Lucky Anduril's Luckey Says He Pays Himself $100,000 a Year |