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Originally Posted By xd341: economies are just one form or another of condensed energy. The history of standards of living tracks the cost of energy very closely. Petroleum and nuclear are the densest, cheapest most reliable sources of energy we have. Divesting a nation of those two resources is literal economic suicide. its so obvious that it makes me think there is no stopping it in Germany. If they haven't seen the reality yet, they aren't going to. Where does the AFD fall on the topic? Is there real political change in Germany or is it hype? The AfD has some good ideas, but they are also very blind in some other areas. [ETA] State election results from Saxony, where the AfD has done the best of all states:  The CDU (Republican lite) has vowed never to work with the AfD. Add in the Linke (the literal successor of the SED, the communist party of the former East Germany), the SPD, the Greens, and some BSW, and you get to a place where even in that state, the AfD can't pull off a ruling coalition. [ETA2] Polling results for a federal election, which looks much worse for the AfD even if they're the strongest party overall.  SPD+Greens+Communists = 40% |
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: It's just a stock 2002 ex. D17 145k miles mostly highway. My daughter drives like a grandma. It's Valvoline high mileage synthetic blend. Typically do full synthetic with 5k changes on that car. Haven't used a non full synthetic as long as I can remember so not sure if those are 3k oils Given the current situation, I'd run it 3K and pull a sample and have it analyzed, then change it based on when they say it needs changing. If that be 5K or 10K, I'd do that. Suddenly, investing in an oil analysis looks a lot better than just changing at an arbitrary mileage. Edit to add: you cannot tell if an oil needs changing by looking at it. "Dirty" looking oil may just mean that the detergents in the additive package are doing their job. "Clean" looking oil could have a depleted additive package, excessive fuel dilution, or have been sheared below the minimum viscosity required. Only an analysis can tell the tale. On the other hand, silver sparkles in the oil mean BOTH the oil, and the engine, are done. |
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Originally Posted By Dopple: The reason they attacked goes back further than a few years ago. Originally Posted By Dopple: Originally Posted By lorazepam: It's a shame when murderous assholes control the oil. Russia would be pumping plenty if they hadn't attacked their neighbor. Do enlighten us. And whilst so doing, please don't bring up the "ethnic Russians" who had been deliberately planted there back in Stalin's day to replace the native Ukrainians the Soviet Union deliberately starved to death. |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: If done right it works well but companies way to often try to be cheap fvcks and fission material isn't something to cheap out on. Also, we SUCK at spent fuel rod storage [and other nuke waste that isn't low level] or recycling. We've have, as a country, done a very poor job in that area. NIMBY strikes again even after God knows how much money has already been spent. Yucca Mountain alone is proof of that. |
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction.  ———————————————————————————— DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? |
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? We should really be using a decicated thread, so I'll put both of these in a new thread and link here.  DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. |
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Originally Posted By brass: We should really be using a decicated thread, so I'll put both of these in a new thread and link here. https://i.imgur.com/DThNv49.png DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? We should really be using a decicated thread, so I'll put both of these in a new thread and link here. https://i.imgur.com/DThNv49.png DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. I’m fine with any discussions going on here oil related. This is part of it. Just, in general the same rules apply. Don’t be a dick.™️ Let’s just not get it locked. If it’s anything oil related and/or petroleum, O&G related, it’s welcomed. |
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Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: I’m fine with any discussions going on here oil related. This is part of it. Just, in general the same rules apply. Don’t be a dick.™️ Let’s just not get it locked. If it’s anything oil related and/or petroleum, O&G related, it’s welcomed. Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? We should really be using a decicated thread, so I'll put both of these in a new thread and link here. https://i.imgur.com/DThNv49.png DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. I’m fine with any discussions going on here oil related. This is part of it. Just, in general the same rules apply. Don’t be a dick.™️ Let’s just not get it locked. If it’s anything oil related and/or petroleum, O&G related, it’s welcomed. Well, now I'm confused.  I'll just let the other thread sink into oblivion. Seems easiest. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov: The AfD continues winning elections and gaining share, but they will never come into any meaningful power. On the one hand, you could say that the AfD is very successful, having gained probably 35-40% of the vote. On the other hand, you have at LEAST as many people now voting for the hard left. Every political party has vowed never to enter into a coalition government with them, so unless they can get over 50% of the vote (which isn't going to happen anytime soon), nothing will change. The AfD has some good ideas, but they are also very blind in some other areas. [ETA] State election results from Saxony, where the AfD has done the best of all states: https://images.tagesschau.de/image/70aeaf56-aa1e-407e-9999-341808dd7359/AAABoH-GmvE/AAABnSSvrFg/16x9-big/wahlmonitor-170.jpg?width=1280 The CDU (Republican lite) has vowed never to work with the AfD. Add in the Linke (the literal successor of the SED, the communist party of the former East Germany), the SPD, the Greens, and some BSW, and you get to a place where even in that state, the AfD can't pull off a ruling coalition. [ETA2] Polling results for a federal election, which looks much worse for the AfD even if they're the strongest party overall. https://de.statista.com/graphic/1/953/aktuelle-parteipraeferenz-bei-bundestagswahl.jpg SPD+Greens+Communists = 40% |
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Originally Posted By brass: Well, now I'm confused. I'll just let the other thread sink into oblivion. Seems easiest. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Just some perspective regarding where the price of oil has been in comparison. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HS_IgVrWcAAWEE1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Kind of irrelevant when the pump price doesn't track with it. Gasoline price per gallon, past 50 years with inflation correction. https://i.imgur.com/EXBAOEx.png Was the oil price picture posted inflation adjusted? We should really be using a decicated thread, so I'll put both of these in a new thread and link here. https://i.imgur.com/DThNv49.png DE-HIJACK From Fox's Thread Please continue oil price discussion to this thread. I’m fine with any discussions going on here oil related. This is part of it. Just, in general the same rules apply. Don’t be a dick.™️ Let’s just not get it locked. If it’s anything oil related and/or petroleum, O&G related, it’s welcomed. Well, now I'm confused. I'll just let the other thread sink into oblivion. Seems easiest. To make your numbers a little bit more convoluted. Right now, USGC to Asia is about $25 a barrel. War premiums from Saudi Arabia to Asia is about $35 a barrel. Add in another $20-30 a barrel for spot / same month delivery premiums. Over all, you’re adding between $45 and $65 a barrel to your cost of crude. Previously it was about $8-10 / bbl. And no one paid spot premiums unless they had an issue. |
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Originally Posted By Dopple: The reason they attacked goes back further than a few years ago. Not going to derail the thread, but I am good with Ukraine blowing the fuck out of every refinery, pipeline, and port facility they have. |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: Not going to derail the thread, but I am good with Ukraine blowing the fuck out of every refinery, pipeline, and port facility they have. Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Dopple: The reason they attacked goes back further than a few years ago. Not going to derail the thread, but I am good with Ukraine blowing the fuck out of every refinery, pipeline, and port facility they have. I mean, the world shares oil/distillates one way or another. Russia will source fuels from somewhere else and it will be deducted from our global inventory. Which right now it seems we are trying to supply what’s been shut down. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: I mean, the world shares oil/distillates one way or another. Russia will source fuels from somewhere else and it will be deducted from our global inventory. Which right now it seems we are trying to supply what’s been shut down. Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Dopple: The reason they attacked goes back further than a few years ago. Not going to derail the thread, but I am good with Ukraine blowing the fuck out of every refinery, pipeline, and port facility they have. I mean, the world shares oil/distillates one way or another. Russia will source fuels from somewhere else and it will be deducted from our global inventory. Which right now it seems we are trying to supply what’s been shut down. While all this is true, I can’t blame Ukraine for attacking those facilities, when Russia has been attacking their infrastructure and non-military targets during this invasion. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: I mean, the world shares oil/distillates one way or another. Russia will source fuels from somewhere else and it will be deducted from our global inventory. Which right now it seems we are trying to supply what’s been shut down. Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Dopple: The reason they attacked goes back further than a few years ago. Not going to derail the thread, but I am good with Ukraine blowing the fuck out of every refinery, pipeline, and port facility they have. I mean, the world shares oil/distillates one way or another. Russia will source fuels from somewhere else and it will be deducted from our global inventory. Which right now it seems we are trying to supply what’s been shut down. Is it 2014? Strange how the war was going then it stopped when Trump was elected then Biden was in and they started up again. I still don't know the sides, is Syria still in the mess and is are US weapon companies supplying both sides with weapons to tune them up for when we need them. Both the missile and the missile defense)? |
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An unasked question. Have any of you had a motor oil soaked rag combust on its own? I have seen it happen with polymerizing oils like tung oil and linseed oil in the summer. I have a steel can in the garage for that reason . But I have never seen a motor oil rag combust. |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: An unasked question. Have any of you had a motor oil soaked rag combust on its own? I have seen it happen with polymerizing oils like tung oil and linseed oil in the summer. I have a steel can in the garage for that reason . But I have never seen a motor oil rag combust. I've always been more concerned about spontaneous human combustion. I remember that being a big problem when I was a kid in the 70's. I put oily rags in the trash company's can. What is the purpose of cotton shop rags over disposable HD paper towels? Does anybody clean and reuse cotton shop rags? |
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Attached File Attached File Diesel question- my GMC 3.0 duramax fuel filter housing had these red/gold/brown flakes in the bottom. The fuel seems fine, truck is running normally. The filter had about 20k miles on it. About a teaspoon of water in the separator. When I changed it last time, it looked exactly like that, with the same crud. I wiped it out and it made sort of a brown smear on the rag, like it wasn’t solid material. Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? Edit: of course I could be completely wrong. |
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Originally Posted By RTX:  Originally Posted By RTX: Originally Posted By trails-end: What is the purpose of cotton shop rags over disposable HD paper towels? Does anybody clean and reuse cotton shop rags? Your avatar would be me after running them through my wife's washer. |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1569_jpeg-3832964.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1566_jpeg-3832970.JPG Diesel question- my GMC 3.0 duramax fuel filter housing had these red/gold/brown flakes in the bottom. The fuel seems fine, truck is running normally. The filter had about 20k miles on it. About a teaspoon of water in the separator. When I changed it last time, it looked exactly like that, with the same crud. I wiped it out and it made sort of a brown smear on the rag, like it wasn't solid material. Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? Highest probability is dirty fuel from a lower volume station. I don't think adding a treatment will hurt anything so try it for a few tanks but looks like tank sediment to me |
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| We've seen that motor oils and fuels have shot up in price, but has anyone noticed a significant increase in things like garbage bags, nitrile gloves, and other everyday plastic items? Aside from the expected increases from inflation, but attributable to oil scarcity. |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1569_jpeg-3832964.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1566_jpeg-3832970.JPG Diesel question- my GMC 3.0 duramax fuel filter housing had these red/gold/brown flakes in the bottom. The fuel seems fine, truck is running normally. The filter had about 20k miles on it. About a teaspoon of water in the separator. When I changed it last time, it looked exactly like that, with the same crud. I wiped it out and it made sort of a brown smear on the rag, like it wasn’t solid material. Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? I’ve been changing fuel filters since ‘98 and that looks kinda normal to me. Filter is doing its job. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: We've seen that motor oils and fuels have shot up in price, but has anyone noticed a significant increase in things like garbage bags, nitrile gloves, and other everyday plastic items? Aside from the expected increases from inflation, but attributable to oil scarcity. I’ve haven’t been tracking those items, however early on Fox mentioned that items like plastics, resins, etc. will likely be affected. Some items like pex or poly plumbing materials have seen increases above normal over the past few months. We generally keep a box or two of Costco sized garbage bags on hand anyway, so not super concerned there. I did pick up a couple of extra boxes of nitrile gloves that I use out in the garage though. ETA: Just checked and the same gloves I bought in April for $9.99 per box are still $9.99 per box. Ordered a couple more boxes, because every oil fort needs a glove fort too.
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1: While all this is true, I can’t blame Ukraine for attacking those facilities, when Russia has been attacking their infrastructure and non-military targets during this invasion. Originally Posted By brass: Is it 2014? Strange how the war was going then it stopped when Trump was elected then Biden was in and they started up again. I still don't know the sides, is Syria still in the mess and is are US weapon companies supplying both sides with weapons to tune them up for when we need them. Both the missile and the missile defense)? Politics aside, to me it seems the world makes X amount of distillates. For every refinery taken out it puts pressure on other refineries regardless of borders. Your choice if you’re ok with it or not. |
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Originally Posted By LV1976: We've seen that motor oils and fuels have shot up in price, but has anyone noticed a significant increase in things like garbage bags, nitrile gloves, and other everyday plastic items? Aside from the expected increases from inflation, but attributable to oil scarcity. Compostable plastics are often made from plant cellulose, corn starch, and biodegradable polymers and use no fossil based oil. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: Looks like particulate to me. very fine rust? You been buying fuel from some low volume stop and rob? Is it magnetic? I doubt there is much rustable metal in that fuel system prior to the filter so if it's rust I don't think it's from your system. Could be contaminated fuel. Could be something growing but in my experience that only happens when things sit for a long time or are very contaminated. Highest probability is dirty fuel from a lower volume station. I don't think adding a treatment will hurt anything so try it for a few tanks but looks like tank sediment to me Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By FedDC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1569_jpeg-3832964.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1566_jpeg-3832970.JPG Diesel question- my GMC 3.0 duramax fuel filter housing had these red/gold/brown flakes in the bottom. The fuel seems fine, truck is running normally. The filter had about 20k miles on it. About a teaspoon of water in the separator. When I changed it last time, it looked exactly like that, with the same crud. I wiped it out and it made sort of a brown smear on the rag, like it wasn't solid material. Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? Highest probability is dirty fuel from a lower volume station. I don't think adding a treatment will hurt anything so try it for a few tanks but looks like tank sediment to me I was thinking rusty fuel…but it’s hard to say. I’m generally pretty selective about where I get fuel, but you never know. |
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Originally Posted By trails-end: I've always been more concerned about spontaneous human combustion. I remember that being a big problem when I was a kid in the 70's. I put oily rags in the trash company's can. What is the purpose of cotton shop rags over disposable HD paper towels? Does anybody clean and reuse cotton shop rags? I've worked at places that had shop rags through the uniform company that got turned in and washed, disposable cloth rags(cut up clothing) and disposable paper rags. They all have their upsides and downsides. Originally Posted By FedDC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1569_jpeg-3832964.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45882/IMG_1566_jpeg-3832970.JPG Diesel question- my GMC 3.0 duramax fuel filter housing had these red/gold/brown flakes in the bottom. The fuel seems fine, truck is running normally. The filter had about 20k miles on it. About a teaspoon of water in the separator. When I changed it last time, it looked exactly like that, with the same crud. I wiped it out and it made sort of a brown smear on the rag, like it wasn’t solid material. Do I have crud growing in my tank? Will powerkleen fungicide fix it? That stuff is all before the filter, so the filter is doing it's job (protecting the injection pump and injectors) I personally wouldn't worry too much about it. Originally Posted By boolzi: I’ve been changing fuel filters since ‘98 and that looks kinda normal to me. Filter is doing its job. +1 |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: Compostable plastics are often made from plant cellulose, corn starch, and biodegradable polymers and use no fossil based oil. Originally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By LV1976: We've seen that motor oils and fuels have shot up in price, but has anyone noticed a significant increase in things like garbage bags, nitrile gloves, and other everyday plastic items? Aside from the expected increases from inflation, but attributable to oil scarcity. Compostable plastics are often made from plant cellulose, corn starch, and biodegradable polymers and use no fossil based oil. The plastic garbage bags and nitrile gloves I have in my house don't say that they're compostable or recyclable. I'm pretty sure they're made from fossil oil, but I acknowledge there are bio-based plastics. |
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I like Foxtrot's plan for .mil refineries run like Army Ammunition Plants. Offering excess product to the civilian population, being run by contractors. It is a good solution. I never want to see more government price controls, But the feds should step in to improve some infrastructure. California has closed two refineries recently, P66 Wilmington / Carson, and Valero's Benicia facility. There are a bunch of slimy lawyers that call themselves the "Sierra Club" that fight every development in the west. We have no pipelines because the liberals fight them, applying the Clean Water Act where it was never intended to be used. The feds could absolutely use the commerce clause to make pipelines happen. Burning diesel to drag gasoline to western AZ is insane. CA tried to screw with the pipeline to Las Vegas in recent memory. They were running "rolling blackouts" which shut down pumping stations. There was a sudden lack of jet fuel at LAS. Airlines were landing with nearly full tanks because of a fuel shortage at McCarren. This is the kind of crap the feds should address. |
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Originally Posted By Everetts: I like Foxtrot's plan for .mil refineries run like Army Ammunition Plants. Offering excess product to the civilian population, being run by contractors. It is a good solution. I never want to see more government price controls, But the feds should step in to improve some infrastructure. California has closed two refineries recently, P66 Wilmington / Carson, and Valero's Benicia facility. There are a bunch of slimy lawyers that call themselves the "Sierra Club" that fight every development in the west. We have no pipelines because the liberals fight them, applying the Clean Water Act where it was never intended to be used. The feds could absolutely use the commerce clause to make pipelines happen. Burning diesel to drag gasoline to western AZ is insane. CA tried to screw with the pipeline to Las Vegas in recent memory. They were running "rolling blackouts" which shut down pumping stations. There was a sudden lack of jet fuel at LAS. Airlines were landing with nearly full tanks because of a fuel shortage at McCarren. This is the kind of crap the feds should address. Take any excess oil and put it back into the strategic petroleum reserve. |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
I wish I could love this and hope it goes to all states, but one of the comments makes me think twice: "Now they’re raiding the farmers’ emergency off-road stash so Walmart trucks can keep hauling cheap crap across state lines." However, it would seem that you could take any new cracked diesel, add die, and be ready to roll. You guys know a lot more than I do about this. If I could screw Colorado out of their taxes, I would be thrilled! |
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Originally Posted By mcantu:
Alabama did the same yesterday. https://governor.alabama.gov/newsroom/2026/09/governor-ivey-directs-alabama-law-enforcement-agency-to-halt-enforcement-on-dyed-diesel-fuel-to-relieve-agricultural-timber-communities/ |
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Originally Posted By ChicagoFoodie: Alabama did the same yesterday. https://governor.alabama.gov/newsroom/2026/09/governor-ivey-directs-alabama-law-enforcement-agency-to-halt-enforcement-on-dyed-diesel-fuel-to-relieve-agricultural-timber-communities/ Sounds like this is going to become a legal thing soon. How long could this prevent enforcement of offroad diesel in onroad trucks? It would take some while for the dye to go away, right? And not all trucks are driven all that much. |
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Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Sounds like this is going to become a legal thing soon. How long could this prevent enforcement of offroad diesel in onroad trucks? It would take some while for the dye to go away, right? And not all trucks are driven all that much. Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Originally Posted By ChicagoFoodie: Alabama did the same yesterday. https://governor.alabama.gov/newsroom/2026/09/governor-ivey-directs-alabama-law-enforcement-agency-to-halt-enforcement-on-dyed-diesel-fuel-to-relieve-agricultural-timber-communities/ Sounds like this is going to become a legal thing soon. How long could this prevent enforcement of offroad diesel in onroad trucks? It would take some while for the dye to go away, right? And not all trucks are driven all that much. Yeah that’s going to make enforcement basically impossible for years to come if not longer. |
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Originally Posted By Firestarter123: Yeah that’s going to make enforcement basically impossible for years to come if not longer. Originally Posted By Firestarter123: Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Originally Posted By ChicagoFoodie: Alabama did the same yesterday. https://governor.alabama.gov/newsroom/2026/09/governor-ivey-directs-alabama-law-enforcement-agency-to-halt-enforcement-on-dyed-diesel-fuel-to-relieve-agricultural-timber-communities/ Sounds like this is going to become a legal thing soon. How long could this prevent enforcement of offroad diesel in onroad trucks? It would take some while for the dye to go away, right? And not all trucks are driven all that much. Yeah that’s going to make enforcement basically impossible for years to come if not longer. Outlaw Country Woo! Bright side to everything. Burning untaxed diesel with impunity makes me happy. |
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