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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:17:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FJB and Kumswalla should cut down their motorcade convoys by a few dozen motorcycles and SUVs in this difficult time. Maybe she should just convert their whole fleet to electric vehicles since they're far superior to gas vehicles. 
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:22:09 AM EDT
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"Several days after we learned that gas stations in France have run out of gasoline due to long-running oil refinery strikes, today the French government said that France has tapped its strategic fuel reserves to resupply petrol stations that have run dry, amid ongoing strikes by workers that have stunted refining production and blocked gasoline deliveries."
so how does releasing oil from their SPR fix the lack of gas due to labor strikes at refineries? This whole thing is a lie, something else is going on. Do they store gasoline in their SPR? I find that very hard to believe. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:34:31 AM EDT
[#3]
LOL Commies
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:37:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Several days after we learned that gas stations in France have run out of gasoline due to long-running oil refinery strikes, today the French government said that France has tapped its strategic fuel reserves to resupply petrol stations that have run dry, amid ongoing strikes by workers that have stunted refining production and blocked gasoline deliveries." so how does releasing oil from their SPR fix the lack of gas due to labor strikes at refineries? This whole thing is a lie, something else is going on. Do they store gasoline in their SPR? I find that very hard to believe. Previously noted - France and Total (and likely other refiners/distributors) have stock piles of refined products - both vehicle petrol, diesel and aircraft fuel - paraffin and other needs as well. A number of countries have emergency agreements with France to provide petroleum stocks/products which they havnt tapped. Germany is struggling with it own issues due to supply and political problems with Poland. They also dont have a very developed pipeline network - much is trucked, railed or barged so more difficult to shift volumes. So there's a tight market which CGT Refinery union then energy (and now other unions) are exploiting to gain concessions. Keep in mind it not just non-work, it actively blockading and in some cases sabotaging. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lignite plants (compressed combustible material using stuff like peat) are being told to be on standby These the RWE plants Germany certed for over winter? France only has a handful of non-nukes, I didnt think any were Lignite. They've got a Biomass plant - plenty of wood |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @green_bullet These the RWE plants Germany certed for over winter? France only has a handful of non-nukes, I didnt think any were Lignite. They've got a Biomass plant - plenty of wood Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lignite plants (compressed combustible material using stuff like peat) are being told to be on standby These the RWE plants Germany certed for over winter? France only has a handful of non-nukes, I didnt think any were Lignite. They've got a Biomass plant - plenty of wood Yes |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attack Russia and take theirs. Why? They've cut their own energy production to unsustainable levels. If they had Russia's too they wouldn't use it either. I swear we're so retarded we deserve every fucking thing the left has planned. Enjoy it. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:27:53 PM EDT
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The whole world is going bonkers, seemingly all at the same time. Weird.
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole world is going bonkers, seemingly all at the same time. Weird. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lignite plants (compressed combustible material using stuff like peat) are being told to be on standby These the RWE plants Germany certed for over winter? France only has a handful of non-nukes, I didnt think any were Lignite. They've got a Biomass plant - plenty of wood Yes They still think they're going Coal-less by 2030. Couple more years and they would've been lot worse than now - when they still have 20 or so plants that were able be utilized. I was sure the Lignite plants were a goner tho, just like the Greeks soon. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 4:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole world is going bonkers, seemingly all at the same time. Weird. They aren't stupid and know exactly what they are doing. They all promised to crush fossil fuels. The stupid people are the ones who think it's all a damn mistake. The one's who buy into every stupid excuse they use to advance their agenda. At this point I fully believe that if people are so stupid they can't see through the bullshit we deserve everything we have coming. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 7:23:11 PM EDT
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Relying on Communist Russia…HaHaHa!
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:27:03 PM EDT
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Wife's cousin lives in Paris. They have been told to expect up to 3 days without electricity. Authorities are also checking for running furnaces during mandatory down times.
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:01:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife's cousin lives in Paris. They have been told to expect up to 3 days without electricity. Authorities are also checking for running furnaces during mandatory down times. wow. They are literally going to kill old people like that. I guess the covid plan didn't get enough of them. Freezer contents might survive 3 days, but the fridge probably will not because they will be opening it to eat stuff and all the people that have electric ovens and stoves, will not be able to cook. 3 days without power in a city stands a good chance causing of a lot of violent crime. They will show Putin though. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Previously noted - France and Total (and likely other refiners/distributors) have stock piles of refined products - both vehicle petrol, diesel and aircraft fuel - paraffin and other needs as well. A number of countries have emergency agreements with France to provide petroleum stocks/products which they havnt tapped. Germany is struggling with it own issues due to supply and political problems with Poland. They also dont have a very developed pipeline network - much is trucked, railed or barged so more difficult to shift volumes. So there's a tight market which CGT Refinery union then energy (and now other unions) are exploiting to gain concessions. Keep in mind it not just non-work, it actively blockading and in some cases sabotaging. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Several days after we learned that gas stations in France have run out of gasoline due to long-running oil refinery strikes, today the French government said that France has tapped its strategic fuel reserves to resupply petrol stations that have run dry, amid ongoing strikes by workers that have stunted refining production and blocked gasoline deliveries." so how does releasing oil from their SPR fix the lack of gas due to labor strikes at refineries? This whole thing is a lie, something else is going on. Do they store gasoline in their SPR? I find that very hard to believe. Previously noted - France and Total (and likely other refiners/distributors) have stock piles of refined products - both vehicle petrol, diesel and aircraft fuel - paraffin and other needs as well. A number of countries have emergency agreements with France to provide petroleum stocks/products which they havnt tapped. Germany is struggling with it own issues due to supply and political problems with Poland. They also dont have a very developed pipeline network - much is trucked, railed or barged so more difficult to shift volumes. So there's a tight market which CGT Refinery union then energy (and now other unions) are exploiting to gain concessions. Keep in mind it not just non-work, it actively blockading and in some cases sabotaging. Ok thanks, didn't know that. So after Putin rolls into Ukraine, The EU is going to deplete their fuel stores so they don't have the fuel to fight. Sounds like they are doing what FJB is doing. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gas went up 30¢ to $4.499 in the Flint, mi area. Allow me to say. FUCK JOEY POOPY PANTS XIDEN !!!! And, I don't give a shit about what Europe, asia and any other mother fuckers are paying. Geez, that's a buck a gallon more than it is here in Florida! |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 8:42:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife's cousin lives in Paris. They have been told to expect up to 3 days without electricity. Authorities are also checking for running furnaces during mandatory down times. @Kampster What section? When I sent note a friend outside Paris he knows of nothing like this and the winter plan was just announced https://www.thelocal.fr/20221007/all-the-ways-frances-energy-sobriety-plan-could-impact-your-life/ |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:07:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok thanks, didn't know that. So after Putin rolls into Ukraine, The EU is going to deplete their fuel stores so they don't have the fuel to fight. Sounds like they are doing what FJB is doing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Several days after we learned that gas stations in France have run out of gasoline due to long-running oil refinery strikes, today the French government said that France has tapped its strategic fuel reserves to resupply petrol stations that have run dry, amid ongoing strikes by workers that have stunted refining production and blocked gasoline deliveries." so how does releasing oil from their SPR fix the lack of gas due to labor strikes at refineries? This whole thing is a lie, something else is going on. Do they store gasoline in their SPR? I find that very hard to believe. Previously noted - France and Total (and likely other refiners/distributors) have stock piles of refined products - both vehicle petrol, diesel and aircraft fuel - paraffin and other needs as well. A number of countries have emergency agreements with France to provide petroleum stocks/products which they havnt tapped. Germany is struggling with it own issues due to supply and political problems with Poland. They also dont have a very developed pipeline network - much is trucked, railed or barged so more difficult to shift volumes. So there's a tight market which CGT Refinery union then energy (and now other unions) are exploiting to gain concessions. Keep in mind it not just non-work, it actively blockading and in some cases sabotaging. Ok thanks, didn't know that. So after Putin rolls into Ukraine, The EU is going to deplete their fuel stores so they don't have the fuel to fight. Sounds like they are doing what FJB is doing. Im sure it's no coincidence the Unions involved are pretty hard left, but it's also the French way. They can extract concessions by stopping production. Not sure Macron had much choice here given the shut down on the refining side Otherwise France and Europe in general have done a decent job of getting all energy reserves in place for this winter on short notice, tho they are very short sighted for not seeing this outcome, the Germans especially. Some are doing better than others, and some never allowed (or needed) dependency on cheap Russian gas. Good basic rundown here, https://graphics.reuters.com/UKRAINE-CRISIS/EUROPE-GAS/zdvxozxzopx/ Again the major issue in France is half of French Reactors are down - some unexpectedly. They went into maintenance cycles and issues were found. Another time this would not be the issue it is but there's incredibly tight supply in Europe's energy market. But they are now doing what everyone attributes to Trump - getting off the Russian tit. Which is gonna be painful and incredibly spendy - and Germany and others will likely never get the pricing the Rus we're giving going forward. Definitely not near term. |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:11:08 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: wow. They are literally going to kill old people like that. I guess the covid plan didn't get enough of them. Freezer contents might survive 3 days, but the fridge probably will not because they will be opening it to eat stuff and all the people that have electric ovens and stoves, will not be able to cook. 3 days without power in a city stands a good chance causing of a lot of violent crime. They will show Putin though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wife's cousin lives in Paris. They have been told to expect up to 3 days without electricity. Authorities are also checking for running furnaces during mandatory down times. wow. They are literally going to kill old people like that. I guess the covid plan didn't get enough of them. Freezer contents might survive 3 days, but the fridge probably will not because they will be opening it to eat stuff and all the people that have electric ovens and stoves, will not be able to cook. 3 days without power in a city stands a good chance causing of a lot of violent crime. They will show Putin though. I'd like to see confirmation of this, people there seem to know nothing of it. Like many, seems some of our European members are no longer active. But perhaps someone form France can weigh in |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:20:55 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Going to be a long winter Europe. this and it hasn't even started yet. They will wish for global warming and we may get some resets. |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:32:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to see confirmation of this, people there seem to know nothing of it. Like many, seems some of our European members are no longer active. But perhaps someone form France can weigh in Don't have too much time but it's quite far from that. Russian gas was 17% of our gas importations and gas represent less than 20% of our energy mix. The main target for this winter is to save 10%. They |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:40:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't have too much time but it's quite far from that. Russian gas was 17% of our gas importations and gas represent less than 20% of our energy mix. The main target for this winter is to save 10%. They Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd like to see confirmation of this, people there seem to know nothing of it. Like many, seems some of our European members are no longer active. But perhaps someone form France can weigh in Don't have too much time but it's quite far from that. Russian gas was 17% of our gas importations and gas represent less than 20% of our energy mix. The main target for this winter is to save 10%. They @dewoitine Merci If you have time to expand later, are there planned 3 day blackouts and door to door inspections of usage? |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 1:38:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Im sure it's no coincidence the Unions involved are pretty hard left, but it's also the French way. They can extract concessions by stopping production. Not sure Macron had much choice here given the shut down on the refining side Otherwise France and Europe in general have done a decent job of getting all energy reserves in place for this winter on short notice, tho they are very short sighted for not seeing this outcome, the Germans especially. Some are doing better than others, and some never allowed (or needed) dependency on cheap Russian gas. Good basic rundown here, https://graphics.reuters.com/UKRAINE-CRISIS/EUROPE-GAS/zdvxozxzopx/ Again the major issue in France is half of French Reactors are down - some unexpectedly. They went into maintenance cycles and issues were found. Another time this would not be the issue it is but there's incredibly tight supply in Europe's energy market. But they are now doing what everyone attributes to Trump - getting off the Russian tit. Which is gonna be painful and incredibly spendy - and Germany and others will likely never get the pricing the Rus we're giving going forward. Definitely not near term. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Several days after we learned that gas stations in France have run out of gasoline due to long-running oil refinery strikes, today the French government said that France has tapped its strategic fuel reserves to resupply petrol stations that have run dry, amid ongoing strikes by workers that have stunted refining production and blocked gasoline deliveries." so how does releasing oil from their SPR fix the lack of gas due to labor strikes at refineries? This whole thing is a lie, something else is going on. Do they store gasoline in their SPR? I find that very hard to believe. Previously noted - France and Total (and likely other refiners/distributors) have stock piles of refined products - both vehicle petrol, diesel and aircraft fuel - paraffin and other needs as well. A number of countries have emergency agreements with France to provide petroleum stocks/products which they havnt tapped. Germany is struggling with it own issues due to supply and political problems with Poland. They also dont have a very developed pipeline network - much is trucked, railed or barged so more difficult to shift volumes. So there's a tight market which CGT Refinery union then energy (and now other unions) are exploiting to gain concessions. Keep in mind it not just non-work, it actively blockading and in some cases sabotaging. Ok thanks, didn't know that. So after Putin rolls into Ukraine, The EU is going to deplete their fuel stores so they don't have the fuel to fight. Sounds like they are doing what FJB is doing. Im sure it's no coincidence the Unions involved are pretty hard left, but it's also the French way. They can extract concessions by stopping production. Not sure Macron had much choice here given the shut down on the refining side Otherwise France and Europe in general have done a decent job of getting all energy reserves in place for this winter on short notice, tho they are very short sighted for not seeing this outcome, the Germans especially. Some are doing better than others, and some never allowed (or needed) dependency on cheap Russian gas. Good basic rundown here, https://graphics.reuters.com/UKRAINE-CRISIS/EUROPE-GAS/zdvxozxzopx/ Again the major issue in France is half of French Reactors are down - some unexpectedly. They went into maintenance cycles and issues were found. Another time this would not be the issue it is but there's incredibly tight supply in Europe's energy market. But they are now doing what everyone attributes to Trump - getting off the Russian tit. Which is gonna be painful and incredibly spendy - and Germany and others will likely never get the pricing the Rus we're giving going forward. Definitely not near term. the fuck up was sanctioning Russia and not expecting sanctions from Russia. |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 3:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the fuck up was sanctioning Russia and not expecting sanctions from Russia. Entirely, why I said they were short sighted - Tomaten auf den Augen haben Cant be said enough tho |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 4:13:39 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @dewoitine Merci If you have time to expand later, are there planned 3 day blackouts and door to door inspections of usage? Never heard of such plans. It's not 3 days but 3 hours and not in the whole country. Door to door isn't needed cause our consumption is monitored in real-time. Anyway a link is going to be clearer than my broken english: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/france-faces-power-cuts-of-several-hours-a-day-in-worst-case-scenario-operator/2687056 |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 4:28:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2022 4:57:42 AM EDT
[#28]
Sucks to suck.
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Posted: 10/9/2022 5:19:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gas went up 30 to $4.499 in the Flint, mi area. Allow me to say. FUCK JOEY POOPY PANTS XIDEN !!!! And, I don't give a shit about what Europe, asia and any other mother fuckers are paying. |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 5:23:17 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A global pandemic caused by China that shut down the entire world, destroyed international trade, disrupted labor markets, caused irresponsible governments to spend trillions of unnecessary dollars and created a window of opportunity for war. No mystery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The whole world is going bonkers, seemingly all at the same time. Weird. 
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Posted: 10/9/2022 8:01:32 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never heard of such plans. It's not 3 days but 3 hours and not in the whole country. Door to door isn't needed cause our consumption is monitored in real-time. Anyway a link is going to be clearer than my broken english: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/france-faces-power-cuts-of-several-hours-a-day-in-worst-case-scenario-operator/2687056 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @dewoitine Merci If you have time to expand later, are there planned 3 day blackouts and door to door inspections of usage? Never heard of such plans. It's not 3 days but 3 hours and not in the whole country. Door to door isn't needed cause our consumption is monitored in real-time. Anyway a link is going to be clearer than my broken english: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/france-faces-power-cuts-of-several-hours-a-day-in-worst-case-scenario-operator/2687056 @dewoitine Merci Bien J'apprecie This worst case is what I was told - I have an old friend outside of Paris (who at one time worked for Total). But he does not expect it. The situation's pretty similar to what many locales in the US have faced recently. I hear much that is not what I've heard from people there. |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 8:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm sure COVID is responsible for all this. stupid government knee jerk reactions to covid did set this in motion ,china and us as well as many other food exporters having droughts production stoppages when not needed, major mishandling of a not critical pathogen , 1918 flu kill 10.2% of world population without planes ,killed in hours , if this had been like that 1million would have died in china before they knew what was happening ...hours not days ....my grand father was in france with us forces 24 men two senturies wearing masks total 26 my grandfather was the only one alive in the morning |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 12:55:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/12/2022 12:58:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are their reserves enough to handle industry, farming, and businesses? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Zerohedge  France is fine but they do like to go on strike and that's the reason for the sortages. It's not going to be a cold winter becuase the reserves are are topped up so barring nuke strikes we'll be fine. Are their reserves enough to handle industry, farming, and businesses? Who in Europe farms in the winter? |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 1:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who in Europe farms in the winter? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Zerohedge France is fine but they do like to go on strike and that's the reason for the sortages. It's not going to be a cold winter becuase the reserves are are topped up so barring nuke strikes we'll be fine. Are their reserves enough to handle industry, farming, and businesses? Who in Europe farms in the winter? the Itallians |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 1:07:09 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who in Europe farms in the winter? Their livestock hibernates? No field prep? No cleaning ditches or maintenance? That is my kind of farming right there! |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 1:10:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Don't laugh with the assholes we have in charge that will be us soon.
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Posted: 10/12/2022 1:11:10 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't laugh with the assholes we have in charge that will be us soon. We have states rights...which is not what Euroland do |
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Posted: 10/12/2022 1:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their livestock hibernates? No field prep? No cleaning ditches or maintenance? That is my kind of farming right there! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who in Europe farms in the winter? Their livestock hibernates? No field prep? No cleaning ditches or maintenance? That is my kind of farming right there! You'd be surprised at the needs of many continental rural Europeans, as far as energy use. Hell I was stunned when I found out how common 3kVa subscriptions are in France - really that there are any. France has much weirdness in energy use/heating/residence conditions. The answer to your original question is, overall in Europe, appears still so. Least NG markets in Europe and worldwide continue to resolve, utilities, regulators, even critics seem to agree there's enough - at as one person put it earlier - a politically perilous price. This easily could change, especially if supply transiting trough Ukraine from Russia (odd eh) is shut off. If EDF gets it Reactors back on line as scheduled market conditions should improve. But they will still suck. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:40:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:41:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Zerohedge France is fine but they do like to go on strike and that's the reason for the sortages. It's not going to be a cold winter becuase the reserves are are topped up so barring nuke strikes we'll be fine. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 11:27:31 AM EDT
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Total and Esso reached agreements with CFDT and CFE-CGC Friday, but CGT continues striking and blocking requisitioned workers. There are roughly 90 GCT employees on strike, but supported by larger contingent. https://www.tf1info.fr/politique/video-raffinerie-total-un-accord-signe-la-cgt-maintient-la-pression-2235467.html https://www-tf1info-fr.translate.goog/societe/penurie-de-carburant-seulement-150-grevistes-TotalEnergies-CGT-arrivent-ils-a-bloquer-la-france-comme-l'explique-le-medef--2235724.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc Today a more general strike with other unions joining. https://www.thelocal.fr/20221017/trains-schools-and-bins-what-to-expect-from-tuesdays-strikes-in-france/ The UK is expected to shut down today as Beer Delivery Drivers have walked off. 
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