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Posted: 10/24/2024 1:36:19 PM EST
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C'mon now, we all know NRS coolers never fail.
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Posted: 10/24/2024 2:29:38 PM EST
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I'd say this is why you have no bucket function.
  
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Posted: 10/24/2024 2:49:12 PM EST
[#3]
Nice fatigue failure!
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Posted: 10/24/2024 3:02:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: SecretSquirell]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: Nice fatigue failure! Yup. We were talking about how it was a perfect candidate for AFA. Its weird how it initiated, it's not axial to the eye but perpendicular to it. Pins are all tight so no side loading. And it's not a high-hour machine. I think it mightve been a flaw in the rod and finally let go. |
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Posted: 10/25/2024 5:51:55 PM EST
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Made some progress since getting the frame painted last week. Installed the transmission, pinned the frames together, routed hoses, dressed out the engine and torque before installing. Installed radiator, hyd pumps and tank.
   
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Posted: 10/25/2024 6:15:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Made some progress since getting the frame painted last week. Installed the transmission, pinned the frames together, routed hoses, dressed out the engine and torque before installing. Installed radiator, hyd pumps and tank. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000818-3358699.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000821-3358700.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000823-3358701.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000824-3358702.jpg  The 2 guys doing the D8 rebuild have to turn their bay into a paint booth to paint the frame. They spent all day wire wheeling and needle scaling, had the intern wipe the entire frame down with brake clean, and then hit it with some rust converter. They picked up a paint gun from Menards to paint everything with.
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Posted: 10/25/2024 6:44:10 PM EST
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I have rattle canned frames before, it sucks but its better than assembling on a rusty frame.
I got every part blasted and painted, belly pans, transmission mount brackets, every part. I feel spoiled. 
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Posted: 10/25/2024 7:19:03 PM EST
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They ran power for the new hoist today.
Sounds like the only hold-up is for some mounting plate as it is a made-to-order item and not something that's stocked. Hopefully, it doesn't take too long. |
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Posted: 10/25/2024 7:19:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: I have rattle canned frames before, it sucks but its better than assembling on a rusty frame. I got every part blasted and painted, belly pans, transmission mount brackets, every part. I feel spoiled. I would too. |
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Posted: 10/26/2024 11:51:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: maslin02]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Made some progress since getting the frame painted last week. Installed the transmission, pinned the frames together, routed hoses, dressed out the engine and torque before installing. Installed radiator, hyd pumps and tank. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000818-3358699.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000821-3358700.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000823-3358701.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000824-3358702.jpg Do you guys make the hydraulic lines or they come built? I’ve only played with Cats broken in a field, usually -15 and snowing of course
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Posted: 10/26/2024 12:25:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maslin02: Do you guys make the hydraulic lines or they come built? I’ve only played with Cats broken in a field, usually -15 and snowing of course Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maslin02: Originally Posted By Lee-online: Made some progress since getting the frame painted last week. Installed the transmission, pinned the frames together, routed hoses, dressed out the engine and torque before installing. Installed radiator, hyd pumps and tank. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000818-3358699.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000821-3358700.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000823-3358701.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000824-3358702.jpg Do you guys make the hydraulic lines or they come built? I’ve only played with Cats broken in a field, usually -15 and snowing of course Most of Cats hoses are made to order at the store. Some hoses (usually a/c stuff) come prefabbed, but some a/c lines are made to order as well. |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 8:12:51 AM EST
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Plastic was a mistake.
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Posted: 10/30/2024 11:41:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittlePony: Plastic was a mistake.  Graduate Scene - Plastics |
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Posted: 10/30/2024 1:41:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By sheltot: Originally Posted By LittlePony: Plastic was a mistake.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMtLdE5Zq-8i was thinking the same thing.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 8:28:43 PM EST
[#15]
I am now a Mercedes-Benz centralized diagnostic technician.
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Posted: 10/31/2024 8:40:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittlePony: Plastic was a mistake. We use it everywhere where we shouldn't and where we should use it they use crummy low grade plastics that are poorly designed. |
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Posted: 10/31/2024 8:40:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saturnstyl: I am now a Mercedes-Benz centralized diagnostic technician. My condolences. Dibs on your sanity. I've almost run out of mine. |
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Posted: 11/1/2024 9:02:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saturnstyl: I am now a Mercedes-Benz centralized diagnostic technician. Ahh, welcome, I'm the same you could say for Kia. I hope you're partially insane already like myself. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:00:12 PM EST
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Another week done and close to starting the 836H. A few more AC lines to run then put in fluids and software.
Make sure everything is done e before setting the cab.  550hp C18 is underpowered in this application.     There have been numerous customers looking over the rebuilds in progress, helping them decide if they want to rebuild theirs. I am planning to inspect two 627 that are planned to get rebuilt next year. We may get both, get one or even none as we bid againt another dealer. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:06:17 PM EST
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Looking great!
Are the eyebrow guards something you have fabbed up? The ones we get are nowhere near that big and lack the gusset on each end like yours. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:38:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Looking great! Are the eyebrow guards something you have fabbed up? The ones we get are nowhere near that big and lack the gusset on each end like yours. I did a rebuild on a K model and found they use the gussets on the front and rear of the eyebrow, On the H model, I started to add one on the rear as its not supported like the front part that welds to the boxed section of the frame. Theses guards are always breaking off so these gussets help. We add them to all the H models when we repair them now. There are 2 different part numbers, one for each side but I don't remember what is what. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:55:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: I did a rebuild on a K model and found they use the gussets on the front and rear of the eyebrow, On the H model, I started to add one on the rear as its not supported like the front part that welds to the boxed section of the frame. Theses guards are always breaking off so these gussets help. We add them to all the H models when we repair them now. There are 2 different part numbers, one for each side but I don't remember what is what. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Looking great! Are the eyebrow guards something you have fabbed up? The ones we get are nowhere near that big and lack the gusset on each end like yours. I did a rebuild on a K model and found they use the gussets on the front and rear of the eyebrow, On the H model, I started to add one on the rear as its not supported like the front part that welds to the boxed section of the frame. Theses guards are always breaking off so these gussets help. We add them to all the H models when we repair them now. There are 2 different part numbers, one for each side but I don't remember what is what. Cool I got drawn into the D8 rebuild. I have the joy of rebuilding the roller frames. Spent all day Friday torching/breaking out bogie pins.  Actually, I don't mind it much as I've got a pretty solid system for getting them out with little drama.
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:57:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Looking great! Are the eyebrow guards something you have fabbed up? The ones we get are nowhere near that big and lack the gusset on each end like yours. Originally Posted By Lee-online: I did a rebuild on a K model and found they use the gussets on the front and rear of the eyebrow, On the H model, I started to add one on the rear as its not supported like the front part that welds to the boxed section of the frame. Theses guards are always breaking off so these gussets help. We add them to all the H models when we repair them now. There are 2 different part numbers, one for each side but I don't remember what is what. Eyebrow guards? I have 3 836s (H, K, and a brand new no letter) and have no idea what that is. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 6:59:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Eyebrow guards? I have 3 836s (H, K, and a brand new no letter) and have no idea what that is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Looking great! Are the eyebrow guards something you have fabbed up? The ones we get are nowhere near that big and lack the gusset on each end like yours. Originally Posted By Lee-online: I did a rebuild on a K model and found they use the gussets on the front and rear of the eyebrow, On the H model, I started to add one on the rear as its not supported like the front part that welds to the boxed section of the frame. Theses guards are always breaking off so these gussets help. We add them to all the H models when we repair them now. There are 2 different part numbers, one for each side but I don't remember what is what. Eyebrow guards? I have 3 836s (H, K, and a brand new no letter) and have no idea what that is. Those arched guards on the frame above the rear axle. They look like an eyebrow. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:02:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Those arched guards on the frame above the rear axle. They look like an eyebrow. Thanks. Is there any value in the aftermarket weld-on wire cutters for the inside of an 836’s wheels? I don’t have a link, boss has been considering it, but they seem like snake oil to me. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:05:09 PM EST
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There are some other updates "I" do. I try to double clamp hoses. Check out the charge cooler, doubled up the clamp, just enough room to squeeze in an extra. Also did that on the coolant hoses. If it calls for those cheap worm clamps, I replace them with the constant torque clamps.
Note the ebay, replaced the covers with the updated 988 covers without the access door. These do a better job of protecting it from the weather. This box is all new due to rust. I add the protective wrap to hoses if there is a chance it can rub, I will also add more clamps to stop it from rubbing if it cant be adjusted. I have an adapter for the oil hose so when I pump in the oil, I do it through the pressure taps. It primes the system and I can find leaks before actually starting the machine. I do this on both the hydraulics and transmission. I'm sure we all have tips and tricks we do. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:05:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Thanks. Is there any value in the aftermarket weld-on wire cutters for the inside of an 836’s wheels? I don’t have a link, boss has been considering it, but they seem like snake oil to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Those arched guards on the frame above the rear axle. They look like an eyebrow. Thanks. Is there any value in the aftermarket weld-on wire cutters for the inside of an 836’s wheels? I don’t have a link, boss has been considering it, but they seem like snake oil to me. I cant say since i dont think we've ever had one come in with wire damage. Dozers come in with grooves fairly often but i dont think theres much you can do there besides replacing the guards once they're worn out. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:08:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I cant say since i dont think we've ever had one come in with wire damage. Dozers come in with grooves fairly often but i dont think theres much you can do there besides replacing the guards once they're worn out. I’d love to see a solution for keeping wire out from underneath the trash guards on a D8 final. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:15:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: Lee-online]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Thanks. Is there any value in the aftermarket weld-on wire cutters for the inside of an 836’s wheels? I don’t have a link, boss has been considering it, but they seem like snake oil to me. Don't think our customers use them, what does work are, the aftermarket guards that protect the duo cone seal that bolt to the axle. We install these on most machine.  https://www.hjindustries.com/landfill-compactor-guards |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:16:51 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Don't think our customers use them, what does work are, the aftermarket guards that protect the duo cone seal that bolt to the axle. We install these on most machine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/HJ-Compactor-Final-Guard-3366305.jpg Who makes those? |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:17:34 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Who makes those? https://www.hjindustries.com/landfill-compactor-guards |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 7:31:14 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Cool I got drawn into the D8 rebuild. I have the joy of rebuilding the roller frames. Spent all day Friday torching/breaking out bogie pins. Actually, I don't mind it much as I've got a pretty solid system for getting them out with little drama.The trick i use to pull bogie pins on D8 and up, Set up the pulling ram, 80Ton rod and nut but don't use a washer on the nut at the pin. Pull and it will break the weld on the center of the pin, pull out about an inch, now put on a washer and pull the entire pin. By doing it this way you are only having to pull one pressed in section at a time. If the link has dropped due to wear in the pin, you'll have to hold up the link to keep the worn pin in alignment. I very rarely have to get the torch when using this method. |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 8:04:24 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryThanks man! |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 8:18:12 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Thanks man! They also have a final drive guard for dozers. Works great but is a pain to remove after its been on a while. We have also used Terra for some guards. https://www.terracompactorwheel.com/ |
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Posted: 11/2/2024 8:22:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: They also have a final drive guard for dozers. Works great but is a pain to remove after its been on a while. We have also used Terra for some guards. https://www.terracompactorwheel.com/ We tried their striker bars on our K, and they didn’t survive our operators.
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Posted: 11/2/2024 10:11:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: SecretSquirell]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: The trick i use to pull bogie pins on D8 and up, Set up the pulling ram, 80Ton rod and nut but don't use a washer on the nut at the pin. Pull and it will break the weld on the center of the pin, pull out about an inch, now put on a washer and pull the entire pin. By doing it this way you are only having to pull one pressed in section at a time. If the link has dropped due to wear in the pin, you'll have to hold up the link to keep the worn pin in alignment. I very rarely have to get the torch when using this method. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Cool I got drawn into the D8 rebuild. I have the joy of rebuilding the roller frames. Spent all day Friday torching/breaking out bogie pins. Actually, I don't mind it much as I've got a pretty solid system for getting them out with little drama.The trick i use to pull bogie pins on D8 and up, Set up the pulling ram, 80Ton rod and nut but don't use a washer on the nut at the pin. Pull and it will break the weld on the center of the pin, pull out about an inch, now put on a washer and pull the entire pin. By doing it this way you are only having to pull one pressed in section at a time. If the link has dropped due to wear in the pin, you'll have to hold up the link to keep the worn pin in alignment. I very rarely have to get the torch when using this method. I do it almost the same way. I'll cut the weld on the inside and pull the guts out with just the nut. Then get the minor centered in the opening and pull the remainder of the pin. The ones on this one are so shot that they're resting directly on the majors. I try to get it as centered as possible, but it's hard to see in there well enough to get it centered. It only takes me about 30 seconds to cut the weld. ETA: I only use a 50T press with an 80T pull rod. 50T won't break the weld without cutting. I can move the 50T around by hand. Our 80T requires using the hoist (more correctly, my back does ) and the guy next to me has a D8 blown apart so I didn't want to hog it up just to pull pins.
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Posted: 11/2/2024 10:16:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Originally Posted By TrashWrencher: Who makes those? https://www.hjindustries.com/landfill-compactor-guards One of their 836's runs those wheels. Guess I didn't know they were aftermarket. Just assumed it was a different option. |
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Posted: 11/3/2024 6:35:10 AM EST
[#38]
Yeah, forgot about your crane situation. I use the 100T ram and there is no way I would lift it my hand.
When ordering a new 836 you can spec it with or without wheels and or a blade. Cat does this because of the large aftermarket options for those parts. I did hear Cat now has some diamond tipped wheels that wear so good they have long warranty against wear. |
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Posted: 11/4/2024 7:11:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: My condolences. Dibs on your sanity. I've almost run out of mine. I've been doing it for five years without the certification. Covid shut everything down, and this new CDT program appears to be more difficult than before. We started january 2023 I think and have finally finished. This has been the most difficult thing I have ever done. The amount of pressure and scrutiny is beyond..... I'm happy its over, but looking forward to new things. |
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Posted: 11/4/2024 9:13:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saturnstyl: I've been doing it for five years without the certification. Covid shut everything down, and this new CDT program appears to be more difficult than before. We started january 2023 I think and have finally finished. This has been the most difficult thing I have ever done. The amount of pressure and scrutiny is beyond..... I'm happy its over, but looking forward to new things. but did you get a pay raise? and if so by how much? i bet even you are underpaid. |
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Posted: 11/5/2024 4:59:27 PM EST
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I was already at top of industry so that isn't really the issue.
Many dealers don't utilize the position properly. They think everyone should be flat rate only. I don't really do work on vehicles other than diagnostics. I do however do many other things as well as that. |
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Posted: 11/5/2024 5:03:59 PM EST
[#42]
Here is a cool 1960s 922B wheel loader. Painters are getting it ready to be a static display at the Cat facility not too far away.
Drained all the fluids, removed the added items like strobe light, fixed the dents and rust. Going to get new glass and some new hoses.   
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Posted: 11/5/2024 6:07:33 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Here is a cool 1960s 922B wheel loader. Painters are getting it ready to be a static display at the Cat facility not too far away. Drained all the fluids, removed the added items like strobe light, fixed the dents and rust. Going to get new glass and some new hoses. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000921-3369577.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000920-3369578.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/1000000922-3369579.jpg Yo, I heard you like linkages so we got linkages for your linkages.
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:03:28 PM EST
[#44]
Woooo ac no longer leaks
   New air intake tube too, runs a touch less rich. 
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:05:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Yo, I heard you like linkages so we got linkages for your linkages. I did some work on a 955 traxcavator years ago and it was a death trap. Linkages and cylinders all around the operator's area. They gat closer as you raise the bucket. 
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:29:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Yo, I heard you like linkages so we got linkages for your linkages. I thought the IT28G we had was bad. Woof! |
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:30:04 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: I did some work on a 955 traxcavator years ago and it was a death trap. Linkages and cylinders all around the operator's area. They gat closer as you raise the bucket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/955-3369813.jpg Made when law school was hard. |
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:42:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: I did some work on a 955 traxcavator years ago and it was a death trap. Linkages and cylinders all around the operator's area. They gat closer as you raise the bucket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/955-3369813.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lee-online: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Yo, I heard you like linkages so we got linkages for your linkages. I did some work on a 955 traxcavator years ago and it was a death trap. Linkages and cylinders all around the operator's area. They gat closer as you raise the bucket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/101506/955-3369813.jpg Holy shit. Even the tiniest bit of wear is gonna have drastic effects at the bucket. |
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Posted: 11/5/2024 7:43:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: I thought the IT28G we had was bad. Woof! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Yo, I heard you like linkages so we got linkages for your linkages. I thought the IT28G we had was bad. Woof! Yeah, ITCs are weird. |
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Posted: 11/8/2024 8:29:19 PM EST
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Finding parts for my 2006 diesel mercedes difficult, or impossible to find and extremely expensive.
Took six injectors to a bosch diesel shop. Two hundred dollars later I learn they are all junk. He cannot get replacements or parts for these. The least expensive bosch injectors are 400 EACH. Got a rebuilt set coming for 900. I'm fucking dying here. My car hasn't run since september and it keeps finding more ways to frustrate me. Oh wait, its a mercedes, thats what they do. |
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