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Link Posted: 10/3/2020 3:57:23 PM EDT
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Los!



Link Posted: 10/3/2020 8:55:52 PM EDT
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HMS Eskimo at Narvik:


Hit by a torpedo fired from German destroyer Georg Thiele that blew apart the bow.  The wreckage was torn away when her anchor caught on something.  She fought the remainder of the battle stern first.


She was repaired and escorted Archangel convoys, escorted the Pedastal suicide convoy to Malta, fought at the invasion of North Africa, seriously damaged by a bomb hit in the invasion of Sicily, defended the Normandy invasion fleet, and finally sent to Burma for various escort duties against the Japanese.

Photographed from the carrier Furious during Pedastal:

Link Posted: 10/3/2020 11:21:40 PM EDT
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Oba: The Last Samurai is on Youtube.  After surviving the largest banzai charge of the war, Captain Sakae Oba and 46 men held out for 512 days on Mount Tapochau, Saipan.


1937, before departing Japan for Manchuria.  He wouldn't return to Japan, or meet his son, until 1946:


Surrendering his sword to LTC Kirgis, Dec. 1 1945.  Kirgis returned the sword years later at the request of Marine veteran Don Jones, who co-wrote the book Oba: The Last Samurai with Oba.


Oba and his surviving men:


Oba's appearance at the 1986 2nd Marine Division reunion in Orlando drew a mixed reaction.
Link Posted: 10/4/2020 12:08:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/4/2020 8:47:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:



My grandpa was with the 2nd service Command in the ETO in fall of 44 through VE day.  In his memories he talked about being responsible for a few POW's the unit he was attached to took.  Grandpa did a lot of carpentry work, and also spoke German.  He found out the POW's were farm kids like he was, and while he never said it, were probably late war conscripts vs. hard core Nazis.

He said they were great workers, and at that point int he war actually were treated better by the Americans as POWs than they were in their units.  When the war was over and they released them to go back, one of them said to my grandpa "Ich werde immer für dich arbeiten" or "I will work for you always."  

A few pages from his photo album from LeHarve, and a picture of the same church I took close to 75 years later.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/181534/IMG_20190307_1156171_jpg-1387266.JPG

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My grandfather (WW 1 vet) worked at Ft Sam Houston teaching POWS farming; never got to hear any of those stories, sure wish i did

Link Posted: 10/4/2020 10:51:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Darkstar117:

The first squadron I was assigned to in the USAF was the 63rd Fighter Squadron, whose "aircraft marking" in WW2 was the UN code.

Fun fact. The patch Clint Eastwood wore on the jacket in the movie "Space Cowboys" was the 63FS' patch.
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That is a fun fact, did not know that.

Link Posted: 10/4/2020 10:52:26 AM EDT
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Do-17K

Bomb rack
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This looks like the wooden version for testing, but not sure.
Link Posted: 10/4/2020 11:02:08 AM EDT
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You supposed to lean out the door and pull the handle to drop the bomb?
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 10:18:47 AM EDT
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Saipan:







Link Posted: 10/5/2020 6:34:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
North American O-47.  Apparently so unloved the Army never bothered to name it.  The radio operator/cameraman could climb down into the pregnant-looking observation station to get below the wing.
https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/north-american-o-47-a-jpg.282789/
Wasn't awkward enough so the belly was enlarged:
https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/img193-jpg.285400/
Wasn't slow enough so they added floats:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/172926/_222_floats1_jpg-1605509.JPG

Curtiss O-52 Owl
https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/O-52-1200_480.jpg
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I was Waco TX in 1988-89 there was one of these at a local airport I never saw it fly it was always parked. O-52
Link Posted: 10/5/2020 9:37:25 PM EDT
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Yugoslav built Hurricane captured and used by the Italians

Link Posted: 10/6/2020 11:56:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Yugoslav built Hurricane captured and used by the Italians

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EillofzWkAAuwg8?format=jpg&name=small
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Yugoslav built Hurricane captured and used by the Italians

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EillofzWkAAuwg8?format=jpg&name=small


Very interesting, never seen that before.

I really like the Hurricane, it really was the work horse for the RAF.
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No. 151 Wing Royal Air Force Operations in Russia, September–November 1941

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._151_Wing_RAF
Link Posted: 10/6/2020 1:31:25 PM EDT
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More Saipan.  The best weapon against Japanese bunkers was a flamethrower, but infantry carrying portable flamethrowers were extraordinarily vulnerable.




However the Canadians had developed a powerful vehicle mounted flamethrower based on an abandoned British Ronson design, and when USMC General Holland Smith heard about them he had 40 sent to the Pacific.  Army Col. George Unmacht, chief US chemical warfare officer in Hawaii, quickly took 24 Stuart light tanks had their 37mm main guns removed and replaced with a Ronson with a 170 gallon fuel tank for two minutes of fire with an effective range of 60-80 yards, creating the M3A1 Satan.  Unmacht gave USMC tankers a quick primer course on the Satans and 12 shipped with each USMC division, in platoons of 4 plus one unmodified Stuart.







Satan crews were terrified of their own weapon, but the only casualties on Saipan were two men wounded by an anti-tank mine.  Japanese bunkers were quickly destroyed anywhere the terrain permitted a Satan to approach, and a portion of the Shermans and LVT's that would deploy on later landings were equipped with Ronsons.

Link Posted: 10/6/2020 2:54:40 PM EDT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"M3A1 Satan".
A Very Fitting Name......
Link Posted: 10/6/2020 3:35:05 PM EDT
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Reminds me of the Stuka that dropped a  dummy wood bomb on a dummy aircraft carrier.
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P-38 tail boom

Link Posted: 10/7/2020 9:33:58 PM EDT
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Fw 190 V32 (Werke Nr.0057) GH+KV

V32 was completed in November 1943. It used the DB 603 S-1 and was armed with two MG 151s in the wing roots, for use as an armament test bed.

The aircraft was then rebuilt at V32/U2, this time with a Jumo 213E engine, Mk 213 rapid firing 20mm cannon and the wings from Ta 152 V25. This work was completed in November 1944.
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Link Posted: 10/8/2020 4:55:11 PM EDT
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Is this one of the Fw aircraft that ended up in the USA post war?
Link Posted: 10/8/2020 8:37:05 PM EDT
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Is this one of the Fw aircraft that ended up in the USA post war?
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I do not think so.
Link Posted: 10/8/2020 9:52:25 PM EDT
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I do not think so.
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I have a vague recollection that the D Model at Champlin Air Museum(Mesa, AZ now closed) or the one at the Smithsonian was found to not even have the switches and wiring installed for the guns as it was a weapons test mule.  

One thing I do remember is that some time in their history, maybe even when they were first reassembled in the USA, the wings of the two were switched.  At a later date after Champlin had acquired the D Model, a trade was done to get the correct wings back to the correct fuselages.  

I am sure I have twisted the details, as I was a much younger man when I was deep into warbirds.
Link Posted: 10/9/2020 12:07:20 AM EDT
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The American amphibious campaign in the Pacific was undertaken with extraordinary urgency which prevented the Japanese from coming anywhere close to completing the fortifications they planned on.  The pace imposed on the fleet and troops sometimes seems unnecessarily harsh or foolhardy (the officers tasked with carrying the orders out often criticized them as such) but time after time vital Japanese reinforcements and food and so on were sunk en route and invasion forces captured supply dumps of concrete that hadn't been poured yet and guns that hadn't been mounted yet, or were hastily set up in the open.


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Link Posted: 10/9/2020 7:33:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


I have a vague recollection that the D Model at Champlin Air Museum(Mesa, AZ now closed) or the one at the Smithsonian was found to not even have the switches and wiring installed for the guns as it was a weapons test mule.  

One thing I do remember is that some time in their history, maybe even when they were first reassembled in the USA, the wings of the two were switched.  At a later date after Champlin had acquired the D Model, a trade was done to get the correct wings back to the correct fuselages.  

I am sure I have twisted the details, as I was a much younger man when I was deep into warbirds.
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


I do not think so.


I have a vague recollection that the D Model at Champlin Air Museum(Mesa, AZ now closed) or the one at the Smithsonian was found to not even have the switches and wiring installed for the guns as it was a weapons test mule.  

One thing I do remember is that some time in their history, maybe even when they were first reassembled in the USA, the wings of the two were switched.  At a later date after Champlin had acquired the D Model, a trade was done to get the correct wings back to the correct fuselages.  

I am sure I have twisted the details, as I was a much younger man when I was deep into warbirds.



The wings from the D-9 at Dayton and D-13 were switched for many years. They are on the correct aircraft now.
Link Posted: 10/9/2020 11:23:26 PM EDT
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Obvious propaganda photo of well equipped militia, the Volunteer Fighting Corps (with Type 11 hopper/clip fed LMG):


Reality - planned equipment was suicide bombs and the last ditchiest guns to ever last ditch:


But even extraordinarily crude muzzleloaders was asking too much of Japanese industry, they didn't reach production of any known scale. However, suicide bamboo spear attacks were not too much to ask of housewives:


Meanwhile:

Link Posted: 10/10/2020 8:43:09 AM EDT
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don't see a big smokestack; what type of power did those have? Diesel?
were they for use along the coast only?

BTW, this is a GREAT thread; thanks to everyone for the pics & stories
Link Posted: 10/10/2020 5:33:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HankZudd:

don't see a big smokestack; what type of power did those have? Diesel?
were they for use along the coast only?

BTW, this is a GREAT thread; thanks to everyone for the pics & stories
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Found this.....here

SC-497 Class Submarine Chaser:
Laid down 19 March 1943 PC-1297 by W. A. Robinson, Inc., Ipswich, Massachusetts
Reclassified SC-1297 in April 1943
Launched 2 September 1943
Commissioned USS SC-1297, 8 October 1943
Decommissioned in September 1945
Transferred to the Coast Guard 11 October 1945 and commissioned USCGC Air Swallow (WAVR-469)
Stationed at Morehead City, NC as an air-sea rescue vessel
Struck from the Naval Register 16 November 1945
Decommissioned 1 March 1946 for lay up at the Coast Guard Yard, Berkley, Portsmouth, VA
Sold 14 January 1948
Fate unknown.
Specifications:

Displacement 103 t.
Length 110' 10"
Beam 17'
Draft 6' 6"
Speed 21 kts.
Complement 28
Armament: One 40mm gun mount, two .50 cal. machine guns, two depth charge projector "Y Guns," and two depth charge tracks
Propulsion: Two 1,540bhp General Motors (Electro-Motive Div.) 16-184A diesel engines, two shafts.

This is the type of stuff that has my interest the last few years, everyone knows the main ships, major battles, equipment etc....I have been reading up on the more obscure stuff.
Link Posted: 10/11/2020 9:33:37 PM EDT
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Free India Legionnaires man the Atlantic Wall for the Germans.  




4,500 men, primarily POW's taken from the British in North Africa, were meant to spearhead Germany's "liberation" of India from Britain, but when such lofty goals fell far short they fought in Italy, France, and Germany against the Allies.  


The Japanese had a larger force of 43,000 men in two divisions for the same purpose in Burma called the Indian National Army.  Japanese recruitment was rendered more effective by using Indian POW's who failed to volunteer for target practice.  The stakes in front of each man are target numbers so that officers could critique the soldiers' accuracy.  They wear small paper targets pinned over their heart:




Indian nationalist Subhas Chandra Bose led the German Legionnaires and lived in Germany 1941-1943, hobnobbing with Hitler and marrying an Austrian, then was transferred from a German U-boat to a Japanese sub to lead the INA 1943-1945.  The Japanese closely controlled the information reaching Bose and prevented him from learning that they were torturing fellow nationalist leaders in the small bits of Indian territory they occupied.  


With the defeat of Japan he attempted to flee to the Soviet Union, which he admired, to organize yet another army, but his plane crashed on takeoff from Taiwan.  Bose, soaked in gasoline, attempted to run through burning wreckage blocking his escape and ignited into a "human torch", dying hours later.  He has since become an Indian national hero and appeared on commemorative stamps issued 1964, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2016 and 2018.

Survivors of the turn coat armies were returned to India after the war where they were briefly treated as traitors by the (British) government, including some executions, but eventually viewed as patriots, with some reaching high offices.

Link Posted: 10/11/2020 9:43:48 PM EDT
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The Japanese were kinda dicks.
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@TimJ,

Thanks for posting all of those. I have always thought the M8 was an interesting vehicle. Mark Felton did a video on an M8 taking out a King Tiger tank.

M8 Greyhound vs King Tiger 1944
Link Posted: 10/12/2020 2:15:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2020 9:21:12 PM EDT
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"Lt Doma Watson with deer he didn't shoot"
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 typical
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 12:41:15 PM EDT
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20 year old Florence "Woo Woo" DiTullio, welder, Fore River Shipyard



"I was a curvaceous 119 pounds. Every time I walked by, the guys would go, 'Woo Woo!'" she recalled with a laugh... When she was 22, she told a reporter, "It's dangerous and tough  tougher than hell. But I love it!"  Her welding jacket bore her nickname... She left the job to marry her first husband, Reginald Wilson, who was a Marine."  https://www.tribejoyce.com/2338/
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 3:49:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Free India Legionnaires man the Atlantic Wall for the Germans.  

https://www.jellypages.com/images/haberler/2019/06/Hitlers-Indian-army-Legion-Free-India.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-263-1580-05%2C_Atlantikwall%2C_Soldaten_der_Legion_%22Freies_Indien%22.jpg

4,500 men, primarily POW's taken from the British in North Africa, were meant to spearhead Germany's "liberation" of India from Britain, but when such lofty goals fell far short they fought in Italy, France, and Germany against the Allies.  
http://kensekhon.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Sikh-Waffen-SS-volunteer.jpg

The Japanese had a larger force of 43,000 men in two divisions for the same purpose in Burma called the Indian National Army.  Japanese recruitment was rendered more effective by using Indian POW's who failed to volunteer for target practice.  The stakes in front of each man are target numbers so that officers could critique the soldiers' accuracy.  They wear small paper targets pinned over their heart:

https://static.toiimg.com/photo/imgsize-,msid-40017621/40017621.jpg
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50070/1001395231/original/human-target-practice-photo-u1?fit=crop&fm=pjpg&q=60&w=375&dpr=2

Indian nationalist Subhas Chandra Bose led the German Legionnaires and lived in Germany 1941-1943, hobnobbing with Hitler and marrying an Austrian, then was transferred from a German U-boat to a Japanese sub to lead the INA 1943-1945.  The Japanese closely controlled the information reaching Bose and prevented him from learning that they were torturing fellow nationalist leaders in the small bits of Indian territory they occupied.  
https://im.rediff.com/news/2012/jul/02netaji1.jpg

With the defeat of Japan he attempted to flee to the Soviet Union, which he admired, to organize yet another army, but his plane crashed on takeoff from Taiwan.  Bose, soaked in gasoline, attempted to run through burning wreckage blocking his escape and ignited into a "human torch", dying hours later.  He has since become an Indian national hero and appeared on commemorative stamps issued 1964, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2016 and 2018.

Survivors of the turn coat armies were returned to India after the war where they were briefly treated as traitors by the (British) government, including some executions, but eventually viewed as patriots, with some reaching high offices.

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  If that Ki-21 hadn’t been overloaded and and overworked I think Mao and Stalin would have used Bose to guarantee that India would have gone Communist.
Link Posted: 10/13/2020 9:36:04 PM EDT
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 His instructor
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Camp Hale, huh?

They used to hold the state muzzleloading championship matches there back in the 70s.

Saturday night we would go into Leadville and raise hell.
Link Posted: 10/15/2020 10:22:25 AM EDT
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Great photos, stories, and familiar war chat. My dad was in the U.S. Army in Europe during WWII. He was an MP for some time after the war. Dad's older sister, my aunt, was a WAC in the war effort. My brother has dad's foot locker with all of the war pics. Next time I visit, I will scan or photo the books. Dad said there were photographers with them at times. I have not looked at the pics for at least 30 years.

Great Thread!!
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He 111 V32
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Now that's cool. Love the Russian sniper girls.
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Marching at Camp Shelby, Mississippi. My Dad is to the left of the banner carrier. Not all the guys wear wearing the shoulder patch of the 442nd or the "Go For Broke" hat pin, I don't know why.
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Marching at Camp Shelby, Mississippi. My Dad is to the left of the banner carrier. Not all the guys wear wearing the shoulder patch of the 442nd or the "Go For Broke" hat pin, I don't know why.
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Logistics, new hats coats not enough hat pins and patches to go around.
Link Posted: 10/18/2020 6:45:14 AM EDT
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Logistics, new hats coats not enough hat pins and patches to go around.
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Hmmm, I didn't think about that. I was thinking that most of these guys were the guys who qualified to the Military Intelligence Service (translators) and wearing the Seventh Service Command star patch, rather than the 442nd Liberty Patch. My Dad was wearing 442nd patch and hat pin, but I know he was in military intelligence. Also, they were wearing satchels, not rifles. Here's my Dad and his friend (with side cap) wearing the star:
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Before and after photos of a 15cm sFH 13-1 (Sf) auf GW Lorraine Schlepper(f) SPG monument in Bassoah, Iraq, 2005. The latter was done by the local Iraqi people stripping the vehicle for scrap metal after the removal of the Saddam government. (Note the gun is in full recoil)
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Wild Nashorn gets annoyed by a safari jeep at its waterhole

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