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Link Posted: 12/15/2020 8:19:47 PM EDT
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Kurt Tank was a genius.
Link Posted: 12/15/2020 9:34:59 PM EDT
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Something different:

Link Posted: 12/17/2020 11:24:21 AM EDT
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Santa Claus was too popular to kill off at this Christmas party in 1941, but Hitler would soon recast him as Odin.  Christmas was ideologically unacceptable to Hitler for obvious reasons, so the Nazis first tried replacing the Christian symbolism with Nazi propaganda to mixed results, then resurrected the Germanic pagan winter festival of Yule, on which many Christmas traditions are based.  Stars were replaced with swastikas, trees were decorated with hand grenade ornaments, Silent Night was rewritten to praise Hitler.

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Christmas became a day of remembrance for the dead and suffering fighting men as the war turned sour
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Auschwitz operations manager/adjutant to the commandant SS Obersturmfurher Karl-Friedrich Hoecker lights a candle on a Yule tree in December 1944, shortly before the camp was liberated, probably in the hall at a nearby recreational camp built for Auschwitz staff
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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 11:40:36 AM EDT
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A Wermacht Christmas card I saw in a Volksmuseum really put the war in a different light for me.

Growing up in the 1970s US we saw tons of WW2 movies - all depicting every German as a Nazi and an enemy.

Fact is:  most Wehrmacht soldiers were not party members; propaganda was pervasive, effective, and without available alternatives for most Germans.

Today: wife & kids are Germans (though US citizens).  I’ve taught my kids that it’s crucial for them to learn WW2 history, since their ancestors were active on both sides of the war.

This was not the exact Christmas card, but it expresses the idea:  most of these guys were simply soldiers.

Link Posted: 12/17/2020 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:
A Wermacht Christmas card I saw in a Volksmuseum really put the war in a different light for me.

Growing up in the 1970s US we saw tons of WW2 movies - all depicting every German as a Nazi and an enemy.

Fact is:  most Wehrmacht soldiers were not party members; propaganda was pervasive, effective, and without available alternatives for most Germans.

Today: wife & kids are Germans (though US citizens).  I’ve taught my kids that it’s crucial for them to learn WW2 history, since their ancestors were active on both sides of the war.

This was not the exact Christmas card, but it expresses the idea:  most of these guys were simply soldiers.

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My family is of 100% German heritage.  My grandfather fought in WWII and they spoke German in the home in the 1920's and 30's still.   In his memoirs he talked about the fact that it was difficult knowing it was very likely he was fighting against cousins.   I've mentioned this earlier in this thread, he had several German POWs that worked for him that were great workers, farm kids just like him that in other circumstances would have been friends.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 5:21:22 PM EDT
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My family is of 100% German heritage.  My grandfather fought in WWII and they spoke German in the home in the 1920's and 30's still.   In his memoirs he talked about the fact that it was difficult knowing it was very likely he was fighting against cousins.   I've mentioned this earlier in this thread, he had several German POWs that worked for him that were great workers, farm kids just like him that in other circumstances would have been friends.
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@jblomenberg16 - Have his memoirs been published?  Where can it be purchased?  Did your GF serve in intelligence or called upon to be an interpreter?  
Chinese with Pak 37
Link Posted: 12/18/2020 11:47:55 PM EDT
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Very rare image only 18 produced total!
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 12:04:53 AM EDT
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Poor bastard. Probably frozen solid and thrown there by artillery I am guessing?
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 12:23:58 PM EDT
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Berlin 1945. payback for Stalingrad I suppose.


Link Posted: 12/19/2020 12:43:44 PM EDT
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@jblomenberg16 - Have his memoirs been published?  Where can it be purchased?  Did your GF serve in intelligence or called upon to be an interpreter?  
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@4v50

Thanks for asking.  They haven't been published, but we did transfer them from hand written pages into a word document a few years before he died.  The first few pages were his handwriting, and then as he got older and his handwriting was a challenge (70  years of farming and carpentry caught up with him) my grandmother wrote the remaining pages.

They take us from his initial entry into the Army, to testing for flight school (highest score in the room, but failed admission because he only had and 8th grade education).  He was in the 2nd service command and helped build up for the D-day invasions, went in D+3 to start to help establish the beach head logistics.  He eventually worked to open up the port a LeHavre, and spend a little time in Belgium.  

I've been working on a project to put together a bit more of a history book for our family.  He's been gone about 5 years now , and grandma is in her 90s, so there won't be much oral history left.    We spent a day with her this summer going through Grandpas war stuff, and found his original haversack, including his M1 Carbine cleaning kit (he LOVED the Carbine).

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Link Posted: 12/19/2020 5:17:26 PM EDT
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I'll bet the people in Germany and Japan felt like that's what the sky looked like late in the war.
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4,500 model airplanes hung from the ceiling of Union Station, 1943
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"In 1942, shortly after Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt committed the U.S. economy to the production of 60,000 warplanes that year, and suggested that as many as 185,000 aircraft might be produced by the end of 1943. He turned out to be almost correct. In June 1944, TIME reported 171,257 aircraft produced since Pearl Harbor. In 1942, however, those were Herculean goals, yet to be achieved, and as part of an effort to help Americans understand the task before them, a fleet of 4,500 model airplanes was suspended from the ceiling of Chicago's Union Station. Once you absorb the spectacle of 4,500 planes, of course, then comes the whammy: That's only 1/48th of the production goal. The image above is 600 pixels wide. At that scale, if your monitor's pitch is 72 dpi, an image of all 185,000 planes would be 33 feet wide."


I'll bet the people in Germany and Japan felt like that's what the sky looked like late in the war.



Yeah. And by that time we owned the air. IIRC there were thousand plane raids at one point.
Link Posted: 12/19/2020 6:15:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:
A Wermacht Christmas card I saw in a Volksmuseum really put the war in a different light for me.

Growing up in the 1970s US we saw tons of WW2 movies - all depicting every German as a Nazi and an enemy.

Fact is:  most Wehrmacht soldiers were not party members; propaganda was pervasive, effective, and without available alternatives for most Germans.

Today: wife & kids are Germans (though US citizens).  I’ve taught my kids that it’s crucial for them to learn WW2 history, since their ancestors were active on both sides of the war.

This was not the exact Christmas card, but it expresses the idea:  most of these guys were simply soldiers.

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We briefly has a neighbor that has served in the Wehrmacht during WW2. He has studied in the States prewar and returned home and got drafted.

Because he had been in the States he knew just what he was in for when war broke out and wisely threw in the towel the first chance he got. He spent his war in the south somewhere working on a farm.

I was a small boy at the time and referred to him as a Nazi once.

Big mistake. Both my father and my uncle went off on me something fierce. I got told he was not a Nazi but some poor bastard of a draftee that found his pecker in a wringer.

I think it was a good lesson learned early.

Wars are generally fought by people that don't want to be there.
Link Posted: 12/20/2020 8:45:44 AM EDT
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Luftwaffe Siebelfähre

Siebel ferry
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 4:47:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/21/2020 4:59:23 PM EDT
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VOMAG 7 OR 660











Selbstfahrlafette auf Fahrgestell VOMAG 7 or 660 mit 8,8 cm Flak

Link Posted: 12/21/2020 5:00:18 PM EDT
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Luftwaffe Siebelfhre

Siebel ferry
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That thing may be bristling but as a boat it does not inspire confidence.  They would have needed the calmest weather ever.  Operation Sea Lion would not have ended well for them IMO.

18 year old USCG Seaman John J. Kelley shows his helmet hit by a German bullet on D-Day
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Link Posted: 12/22/2020 3:42:44 PM EDT
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Poor bastard. Probably frozen solid and thrown there by artillery I am guessing?
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Poor bastard. Probably frozen solid and thrown there by artillery I am guessing?

The Finns were known to do that to Soviet corpses as a way to incite fear.

@DT120.
Link Posted: 12/22/2020 7:50:30 PM EDT
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The Finns were known to do that to Soviet corpses as a way to incite fear.

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Interesting. Was not aware.
Link Posted: 12/23/2020 10:16:20 AM EDT
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Bombed out church in Dover
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Recent photo.  Re-built again, then neglected
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Link Posted: 12/24/2020 12:58:50 PM EDT
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Hungarians
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 4:52:12 PM EDT
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Hungarian 43M Zrinyi II 105mm assault gun
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Blown up in Budapest
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Link Posted: 12/24/2020 5:10:40 PM EDT
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Whoops. Reminds me of Italian tanks...
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 9:50:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2020 10:05:44 PM EDT
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Typhoon? Dutch kids?
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 10:34:52 PM EDT
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Id say yes, the wooden clogs.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 8:25:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/26/2020 9:07:44 PM EDT
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LOL! Just saw this today.......
Santa is Captured by the Russians
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 9:10:34 PM EDT
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Now Nashorn!  Now Hummel!  Now Luchs and Hetzer!
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 10:00:05 PM EDT
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Typhoon? Dutch kids?
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I was more interested in the bullet hole in the fuselage. Tough commute for Santa.
Link Posted: 12/26/2020 11:37:46 PM EDT
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I was more interested in the bullet hole in the fuselage. Tough commute for Santa.
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Originally Posted By distrflman:


Typhoon? Dutch kids?

Originally Posted By hdhogman:
Id say yes, the wooden clogs.


I was more interested in the bullet hole in the fuselage. Tough commute for Santa.

Yep.
Never understood the markings, looks like a nice target to get a fix on.
Looks like something is protruding out.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 12:18:59 AM EDT
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Some smaller aircraft/helicopters I’ve been around have ground handling devices attached.  Some recess into the skin.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 12:38:07 AM EDT
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Is  the posting of casualty pictures permitted in this thread?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 12:43:08 AM EDT
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As long as it doesn't show any tits.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:28:07 PM EDT
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Somebody explain the barrel on the M4A3 to me?  (Norw, hatch appears opened)  Hidden?  Bent?  Damaged?
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:29:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:

Yep.
Never understood the markings, looks like a nice target to get a fix on.
Looks like something is protruding out.
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Originally Posted By distrflman:


Typhoon? Dutch kids?

Originally Posted By hdhogman:
Id say yes, the wooden clogs.


I was more interested in the bullet hole in the fuselage. Tough commute for Santa.

Yep.
Never understood the markings, looks like a nice target to get a fix on.
Looks like something is protruding out.
its the girls hairbow....
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Yes.

Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:42:31 PM EDT
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GI's lifting a wounded German atop of a M20 scout car:

Soviets and Panther

Hande hoch Heine!

Soviet anti-tank rifleman:
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 6:45:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hdhogman:

Yep.
Never understood the markings, looks like a nice target to get a fix on.
Looks like something is protruding out.
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Originally Posted By distrflman:


Typhoon? Dutch kids?

Originally Posted By hdhogman:
Id say yes, the wooden clogs.


I was more interested in the bullet hole in the fuselage. Tough commute for Santa.

Yep.
Never understood the markings, looks like a nice target to get a fix on.
Looks like something is protruding out.



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Note the square patch (repaired battle damage) in the bottom left of the "A" and another patch (the oval plate) in the RAF Roundel.

That Typhoon has been IN the fighting...
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 7:12:32 PM EDT
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Somebody explain the barrel on the M4A3 to me?  (Norw, hatch appears opened)  Hidden?  Bent?  Damaged?
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Hidden inside the building I think.

M3 Grant command tank, Italy, 6th South African Armoured Division.  The 75mm hull mount has been removed and replaced with a radio judging from the antenna sticking out of the hatch, a wooden dummy 75mm gun has been mounted on the 37mm turret which has apparently been gutted to make room for two more radios, and a daringly exposed chair has been mounted right in front of the turret.
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Other Grants converted to command tanks made a more elaborate effort to pass as Shermans at a distance, with a dummy gun and sloped hull that eliminated the sponson and clipped corners.
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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 7:22:47 PM EDT
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Just a few months before war's end, the fast carrier USS Bunker Hill was the Task Force flagship of Vice-Admiral Mitscher with Arleigh Burke as his Chief of Staff.

On May 11, 1945 it was surprised by two lone kamikaze planes both of which made well aimed hits within 30 seconds of each other.

The second bomb exploded near the pilots' ready room and killed 22 pilots, many who weren't killed by the bomb blast tried to escape  the suffocating inferno to no avail.

The Bunker Hill didn't sink or blow up but survived due to the heroic efforts of her crew who died at their posts fighting to save the ship.

352 dead, 264 injured, 41 missing

These pictures of the ready room inferno and trapped pilots just haunt me.  :(

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Link Posted: 12/27/2020 9:06:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Just a few months before war's end, the fast carrier USS Bunker Hill was the Task Force flagship of Vice-Admiral Mitscher with Arleigh Burke as his Chief of Staff.

On May 11, 1945 it was surprised by two lone kamikaze planes both of which made well aimed hits within 30 seconds of each other.

The second bomb exploded near the pilots' ready room and killed 22 pilots, many who weren't killed by the bomb blast tried to escape  the suffocating inferno to no avail.

The Bunker Hill didn't sink or blow up but survived due to the heroic efforts of her crew who died at their posts fighting to save the ship.

352 dead, 264 injured, 41 missing

These pictures of the ready room inferno and trapped pilots just haunt me.  :(

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/183309/bunkerhill1_jpg-1751221.JPG

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Link Posted: 12/28/2020 12:47:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Just a few months before war's end, the fast carrier USS Bunker Hill was the Task Force flagship of Vice-Admiral Mitscher with Arleigh Burke as his Chief of Staff.

On May 11, 1945 it was surprised by two lone kamikaze planes both of which made well aimed hits within 30 seconds of each other.

The second bomb exploded near the pilots' ready room and killed 22 pilots, many who weren't killed by the bomb blast tried to escape  the suffocating inferno to no avail.

The Bunker Hill didn't sink or blow up but survived due to the heroic efforts of her crew who died at their posts fighting to save the ship.

352 dead, 264 injured, 41 missing

These pictures of the ready room inferno and trapped pilots just haunt me.  :(

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/183309/bunkerhill1_jpg-1751221.JPG

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Rest in peace shipmates.

Fire never scared me until I went into the Navy. I know what it can do now, and it scares the shit outta me now.
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 9:54:50 AM EDT
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Soviet aerosans
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1942 German (Czech) prototype, Tatra V855
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Link Posted: 12/30/2020 3:04:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/30/2020 9:08:05 PM EDT
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Dreamboat B-17E with B-24 turrets and some other modifications.

From a Reddit post.
The Dreamboat replaced the standard B-17E nose and tail turrets with the powered B-24 positions, swapped dorsal turrets, removed the waist positions in exchange for a powered twin .50cal position in the radio room, modified the bomb bay doors, and strengthened the oxygen system. The crew was reduced to 8 and the flying characteristics improved, and while popular with the test crews the modifications were too extensive to be implemented and thus passed over in order to not disrupt production numbers.
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Koryu midget submarines in drydock at Kure Japan before and after allied bombing

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T8 "limited standard" recce:
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The 37mm gun on Stuarts wasn't enough to duke it out with most German tanks by the time any were encountered, so a number of them were field modified for the reconnaissance role by Allied forces by lifting off the turret and substituting a machine gun ring with a .50, sometimes with a gun shield.  Removing the turret made them better reconnaissance vehicles by lowering the profile and the reduced weight increased speed, reduced ground pressure, and reduced wear on the drive train.  

Not sure exactly what's going on with this one, they may have built a fixed shield at the sides and rear to stop rifle caliber fire and splinters at the expense of limiting gun traverse:
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T8 "limited standard" recce:
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The 37mm gun on Stuarts wasn't enough to duke it out with most German tanks by the time any were encountered, so a number of them were field modified for the reconnaissance role by Allied forces by lifting off the turret and substituting a machine gun ring with a .50, sometimes with a gun shield.  Removing the turret made them better reconnaissance vehicles by lowering the profile and the reduced weight increased speed, reduced ground pressure, and reduced wear on the drive train.  

Not sure exactly what's going on with this one, they may have built a fixed shield at the sides and rear to stop rifle caliber fire and splinters at the expense of limiting gun traverse:
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Thats pretty cool... I never knew they did that. Was the Browning on a skate ring around the turret opening? It's kind of hard to tell
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 9:31:45 PM EDT
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They're field mods, so probably every which way.  Some sources say they were M49 ring mounts normally used on trucks and halftracks, and I'm pretty sure that's what we're seeing in the top down photo, but it wouldn't shock me if some were simple pedestal mounts.

Built up lip around the fighting compartment and a higher gun mount, modified for the crew to work in a standing position?  Apparently a brigadier general's command vehicle:
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